Street Jeepers welcome on Mod Tech?

[woody]

This (controversial?) topic is being discussed on the Members Forum.

My feelings are that they are welcome to post away here as it IS 'Mod Tech.' I have no fear of asking questions regarding my 2x4 MJ fantasy project... but most of my ??s revolve around driveline.

Street-oriented Jeeps is one of those things where if someone has nothing helpful to add to a thread, they probably should refrain from comment :dunno:

Lots of the tech stuff (engine, driveline, electrical, stereo, etc...) crosses over to all XJ's & MJ's, so I'm leaning towards having it all stay here on Mod Tech.

[4ward]

A modification is a modification, it doesn't matter if you're going up or down with it.

Sean

[Flowers]

I agree with OneToothXJ, a mod is a mod.

I'm a Jeep Snob, so I say a Jeep is a Jeep is a Jeep. It is "MOD" tech. Not "Off-road Only" tech. To each his own. Hell, I still hang out with Beezil even though he's Bi-.................


Flowers

[96Classic]

I am going to have to agree with Flowers and OT, mods are mods.

Justin

[Tucker]

IMHO, of course those questions are welcome.

[eric91xj]

i have to agree that a mod is a mod too because at one point my jeep was taken off-road weekly with 30" muds and skid plates on it, then at another point the front end was lowered 2.5", no plates, spare or back seat with 245/60's on it. So yes, to each there own.

eric

[Eagle]

It is my understanding that it won't be a major-league PITA for our web team to crank up another forum, so I have no great preference. I suspect that many who are interested in street XJs may want a separate forum simply because so many people on the mod forum cop such an attitude if a street mod question shows up. However, I'll repeat here wat I mentioned in the Members' forum -- if a street Jeep question appears in the Mod Tech forum I'll do my best to answer it. But I am not particularly interested in that approach to XJing, and so it's unlikely I would ever visit a separate forum on that topic. If other members (and guests) feel the same, the street crowd may be depriving themselves of access to tech info if they set up a separate forum.

Just a thought.

[Goatman]

Yeah, I don't care what we talk about here, a mod is a mod. I just hope that the 4x4 crowd doesn't rag on the 2wd crowd every time they ask a question. Like Eagle said, if it gets to be too much traffic, a new forum can be started.

Engine, drivetrain, suspension, roll cages......all interesting. Lights, stereos......boring. ;) :)

[daytripper]

No problem, look at Rich in NewYork with his blown 2.8 street XJ. He was always here and got no flack (just friendly fire). Besides we ended up turning him into an offroader anyway!

[Ghost]

Hey I like the idea. Lately I have been dreaming of an XJ or MJ 5.0L dragster to run at Darlington Drags Strip. Big 33" Mickey Thompson slicks and skinny front tires. :) I do so love to drive fast! I'm surrounded by inport and ranger and s-10's and thought a MJ or XJ would be really sweet. And fast!

[BrettM]

I would welcome them as long as they really know what a "MOD" is. I DON'T consider clear tail-lights a "MOD". It would certainly help to bring some more engine tech in here...

[azxjman]

If I had the money I would run street racing mj just because I would like to see the look on their faces when they see a jeep scream by them, so in other words yes I would definetly like to help out and share my knowledge.

[XJguy]

There is no doubt that a street oriented Jeeper has the right to post his tech question here and should be welcome. The problem is, will he? Since all he sees are questions about 8" lifts and quarter elliptical 10" lift springs. A Street Mods forum would attract more members and new faces as well as possibly more converts....look at me I have two flavors of XJs now. Unlike finding a lift for an XJ, lowering one is 100% custom, there is no aftermarket support at all, no worthwhile tech info and no representation whatsoever anywhere. With the "Search new threads" option that we have on these new forums, one can see if a visit to the Street side for a topic may be worth his time even if all he cares about is rocks. For example installing a blower on the 4.0 for some drag racing, which would also give the crawler power to get over those boulders. I think we should give it a try, if after a while its proves to be a failure to remove it. Guess how many street XJs will be at the NAXJA bash...try none. If we had a place for them, they would feel part of the NAXJA community and would possibley be there with us in Moab celebrating this vehicle which we spend so much of our life and money on. They could be there for the show and shine part thuse also introducing them to the rock crawlers that predominate the XJ enthusiast community. If we had enough of them, events could even be made for that category of XJ, things like maybe a small autocross in a parking lot, or a drag race etc. Open the minds.

XJguy

[eric91xj]

i thought about it again reading others posts and i say do it, open up another separate forum for street XJ's. I think it will get attention, i know i'd check it out every day like i do the rest of the forums.

eric

[MudDawg]

For sure a lot of mods are universal so to speak...but chrome is not a mod...LOL...and I have seen a couple of really nice street XJ's.

[REDXJ4FUN]

Well every one has good points and i can see where every one is coming from. I have a big interest in this since i hope to build a MJ street truck soon. At first i said keep them on the mod board but i can realy see where it would benifit from haveing its own board. Yes most of the events are off road but it shouldn't stop the street guys from getting to gether to go to other street events that are opn to all cars and trucks. I think to see a group od lowered and modified MJs and XJs roll in to a national event would be kool as hell. I'm getting cloer to staring my project witch will be a very fast jeep.

[Eagle]

Originally posted by mad maXJ
I would welcome them as long as they really know what a "MOD" is. I DON'T consider clear tail-lights a "MOD". It would certainly help to bring some more engine tech in here...

That which is not OEM is "mod." Someone into "euro" style tail lights might not consider faux beadlock wheels a mod ... but it is, because it wasn't OEM or a factory option.

[XJEEPER]

I still miss my speedracer 2wd truck, autocrossing is great fun too. I always have an eye out for a 2wd MJ shortbed that I could turn into a corner carver.......I agree with Rich though, those that see only big tire, big lift, SYE, roll cage posts may hesitate in tossing out a question about HD front and rear swaybars, front air dams, Z rated tires and airbag suspensions. I'd like more motor related speed tech here, as would most of us, I think. I remember when the Archer Brothers ran SCCA with MJ's and dominated! I welcome the XJ/MJ street racer crowd, and if we see enough posts in that direction, why not make a forum for the street crowd? Not to segregate them, just so the Street Mods Tech is easier to find.

[whoozey1953]

Originally posted by Eagle
That which is not OEM is "mod." Someone into "euro" style tail lights might not consider faux beadlock wheels a mod ... but it is, because it wasn't OEM or a factory option.

Don't you mean "Bead-Looks"?

[5-90]

Well, this has probably been up for a bit, and there is now a "street" board, so it's probably a bit late - but I'll weigh in anyhow...

The idea of creating a usable, functional, "street performance" XJ/MJ I think is in keeping with our concept of the XJ (and, by extension, the MJ) as a "go-anywhere, do-anything" go-to vehicle for everyone.

While I don't think that just dropping one to the ground is really a valid mod per se, I think that suspension lowering and tightening as part of a total performance package is workable. I see enough "chopped springs" here in CA, which is probably why I feel the way I do. Simply cutting springs and lowering a vehicle is pointless - and if you want to waste money, give it to me and I'll put it to use...

However, if you want to lower your XJ a couple inches, put in tighter springs, urethane bushings, make the tyres a little lower and wider, and generally tighten it up, and get ready for a good "street" engine (and let me help you with that!) then I'll help any way I can!

On the subject of other "street" stuff, I don't think it would hurt for the Streeters to have a "show-and-shine" board for stereos, paint, graphics, tinting, and the like - stuff we "lifters" aren't likely to bother with. However, with all the crossover possible with suspension and engine performance enhnancements, I think that most of those "hardware" mods can and should be put on the Mod Tech board so we can all see what's going on.

"Torque makes you quick, horsepower makes you fast."

5-90

[Loose_Nuts_Enterprises]

Thread of the Living Dead?

[dellstopjeep]

had to dig deep to pull this thread out of the closet i bet, i didnt even own a jeep back then

[nhrocker]

This is a really old, but good thread. There are now so many things that do cross over. So far my XJ has been a "street machine" only seeing light off-roading every once in a while. Eventually it will be set up for multipurpose use as my DD, but until I lift it beyond the budget boost I have now, I would consider all the stuff I've done "street" oriented. I've got the performance headers, cat back kit, amber fog lights, a "small" 1000 watt stereo, and tons of other things changed.

But with all that stuff and my 225x75 R15s, I still consider it a street vehicle. It can kick the a** of most of the people around where I live. They think their foreign car that they slapped some cosmetic stuff on is better than some old Cherokee with scratched up paint, until they're left at a stop light since they had no low end to accelerate with (thank you 4.0!).

Once I put on the TJ flares I've got waiting, the larger tires I want, and the lift that inchitis is telling me to get, then it will be putting my mods to good use as more than just some street jeep. And that stereo is going to be one of the best mods in my opinion. I love music, so being able to hear it over some nice aggressive tires on the way to a trail is a great bonus. Besides, knowing that with one flick of a switch I can show up the little punk in the car next to me who thinks his hatchback has great bass is a great thing!

So yeah, crossover tech is a good thing-
But thats just my $.02.
:lecture:

[loop]

Street and Performance & Other Tech :rtm:

[Beej]

I think it would be a good idea to start a "modifications forum" or something like that. That way anyone who has done any modifications can post into that. On the other hand, maybe there should also be an OEM tech forum, and just limit it to posts related to anything stock or relatively unmodified. Oh, and while we're on this topic, what about a "picture forum" just to post pictures of stuff we have, that way it would not eat up bandwidth of users who are looking for information. And actually, since we all have opinions on land usage, maybe a "land use forum" too? And, what about including an "off-topic forum" so that folks can just chat about whatever they want. Since Naxja is a club, maybe it would be good to have members only forums for the members and probably might be a good idea to include forums for each of the chapters while they're at it. Informal and formal event forums would be a good idea too, just for posting about events. Oh, and it might be a good idea to have a "for sale forum" for people to post things for sale. I would also like to see a "vendors forum" for people who have actual products they wish to market. It might also be nice to have a "user support forum" or something to help out people who want to learn how to use this site. Maybe a "tester forum" too in case someone wants to test out code or posts to see them before trying it in the real forums? I can't really think of anything else. Does anyone else have any ideas?

[sidriptide]

5-90

someone's been snooping the aaarchiiiiives....... shouldnt you be writing a book or something? or are you including a chapter on resurrecting the dead?? :sunshine:


however this is a good thread that shows how a good discussion can have a positive outcome....

[Fullsizexj]

Personally I feel this is a pole that deals with NAXJA decisions and should be held in the members area where paying NAXJA members make the decisions on what NAXJA has or has not

[woody]

Wow Beej... you might be onto something!

[woody]

Personally I feel this is a pole that deals with NAXJA decisions and should be held in the members area where paying NAXJA members make the decisions on what NAXJA has or has not

LOL Richard... look at the date of the original poll! It's another 'back from the dead' thread.

[bgcntry72]

No problem, look at Rich in NewYork with his blown 2.8 street XJ. He was always here and got no flack (just friendly fire). Besides we ended up turning him into an offroader anyway!

Friendly Fire.
Ahhhhh....memories.
:kissyou:

[Fullsizexj]

LOL Richard... look at the date of the original poll! It's another 'back from the dead' thread.
yeah I realized it after I posted

[biscuitboy87]

information...a mod is a mod...cross pollenates.
IMHO
i think jeepspeed would be a better use of 2wd xj's, but then again BMW uses a fairly punchy straight six...so maybe some street mods will carry over in the horses dept... i mean XJ's are why we are here, and most of them are DD so they do see a fair amount of street...dead horse? LOL. just realised this is old hat...sorry.