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Rufio
March 10th, 2006, 20:17
i've been searching and have had no luck..... does anyone know of a good rear dana35 to a dana 44 swap?

also does anyone know if 80-88 grand wagoneer dana 44's will fit right in to a 88 wagoneer limited without fab work.
Wayne Sihler
March 10th, 2006, 20:29
A D35 to D44 swap is direct even the u-bolts are the same.The drive shaft may need to be changed because of a small difference in length.
The early Grand axles are 6 lug and may be spring under(not sure).
Wayne
Rufio
March 10th, 2006, 20:34
but will the 88 grand waggy dana 44 swap into a 88 limited waggy without any fab work?
hippymill
March 10th, 2006, 20:37
might require some work on brake lines and such. I'd be interested to hear from someone who has done this as well. I have been considering this as well, as junked Wags are a dime a dozen here. I do know that the later wags were spring over.
Kittrell
March 10th, 2006, 22:58
It's been done. The SJ rearend is slightly more narrow, not to mention that the bolt pattern is 6 lug. Relocated perches and shock mounts, do something about the pattern. Thats about it IIRC.
Matt98XJ
March 10th, 2006, 23:11
The grand wagoneer 44's are wider. I believe.
Rufio
March 10th, 2006, 23:13
yea hard to find around here though, the grand waggy's i can find left and right for 250 bucks
Kittrell
March 10th, 2006, 23:20
The grand wagoneer 44's are wider. I believe.

Negative, they are somewhere around 59" WMS
Rufio
March 10th, 2006, 23:51
Negative, they are somewhere around 59" WMS

not to sounds like a axle noob (witch i am) whats WMS and you said it's 59" whats the stock length of a xj rear axle?
Kejtar
March 10th, 2006, 23:53
not to sounds like a axle noob (witch i am) whats WMS and you said it's 59" whats the stock length of a xj rear axle?
wms = wheel mounting surface (denotes the width of the axle from side to side). IIRC XJ's are about 61"
Kittrell
March 10th, 2006, 23:54
not to sounds like a axle noob (witch i am) whats WMS and you said it's 59" whats the stock length of a xj rear axle?

WMS is wheel mounting surface. So WMS to WMS is about 59", basically drum to drum, or rotor to rotor (outermost surface).
Rufio
March 10th, 2006, 23:57
ic thank you, if the grand waggy' are 59" and i put it on my limited waggy witch is 61" would that 2 inches pose a problem that i would need to address or would it not be that big of a concern?
Kittrell
March 11th, 2006, 00:03
Its not much of an issue. And if you use 1" adapters on each side to account for the bolt pattern. Then you'll be back to XJ width.
Rufio
March 11th, 2006, 00:10
were would i get spacers/adapters that convert 6 lug to 5 lug?
Kittrell
March 11th, 2006, 01:49
were would i get spacers/adapters that convert 6 lug to 5 lug?

Not sure why I said that, those patterns would over lap. Two options, new wheels for the rear. Obviously a PITA have two different patterns. Or new 4.5/5.5 shafts and a XJ 44 drum. If I am botching, someone feel free to correct me.
opracer315
March 11th, 2006, 09:33
i've been searching and have had no luck..... does anyone know of a good rear dana35 to a dana 44 swap?

also does anyone know if 80-88 grand wagoneer dana 44's will fit right in to a 88 wagoneer limited without fab work.

Rufio, I see you are in Washington. I am in Spokane and have a D44 out of a 87 XJ complete brake to brake if your are intrested pm me.
Rufio
March 11th, 2006, 17:49
Does anyone know of a good writeup on this kind of swap?
Yucca-Man
March 11th, 2006, 18:05
Which kind of swap? Dropping in another XJ axle, or swapping in one from another vehicle? XJ - http://www.yuccaman.com/jeep/dana44.html