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Bones
July 28th, 2003, 22:39
Well I received my J20 box today. It is the NAPA one for the '80 or newer J series Pickups. The '80+ J10/J20boxes are listed as one #, though the older J series (~'77) did show a difference between J10 and J20 boxes.
I compared the new box to the XJ unit that I pulled out of my Jeep last night. It is the same dimensions on the out side, with the only difference being the fourth bolt attachment site.
I was told that I had to use the '80 or newer box so that the XJ PS lines would still work so that is the one I got.
Because the front cap was the same as the XJ's I acted on a hunch and had them look up the '88 YJ box. Yep, same @#$%@ part #. So now I have a YJ box and more Questions.

Are there any internal differences between the XJ and YJ boxes?
Will the older J20 boxes bolt in to the XJ?
Anyone running the older J20 only series box?
Is there really a problem with the PS hose connections on the older J20 box?
If so, what did you do about the PS hoses?

Thanks,

Bones :skull1:
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Eagle
July 28th, 2003, 23:02
I had a '78 Cherokee. Don't recall if it used a Saginaw box or not. I'll see if I can scare up the FSM for it.

dan f.
July 29th, 2003, 01:08
sorry, maybe i missed something earlier, but why did you want to go to a different box? are other boxes particularly better? just curious.

JnJ
July 29th, 2003, 05:10
I did a little research and found the J20 box is the only "upgrade" the J10 box is the same as the XJ box. See if any of these threads will help. One talks about the cap size to identify the right box.
http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/showthread.php?s=&threadid=47808&highlight=J20+Steering+box
http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/showthread.php?s=&threadid=155315&highlight=J20+Steering+box
http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/showthread.php?s=&threadid=130107&highlight=J20+Steering+box

CRASH
July 29th, 2003, 06:40
I had the same problem at my lcal parts store. When you order a saginaw box, the only difference is 3 bolts or 4.

The J-20 box will have 4 holes, and have a larger bore, by about 3/8". The larger end cap is proof of this. I sent an "alleged" J-box back 3 times before I gave up. Call Matt at West Texas Off-road, I believe he has a source for true J-boxes. This is the route I'm going.

CRASH