Installed my long arms

[xjrrrdx]

I got the RK three link long arm upgrade, I had a broken UCA at the mount and a cracked contol arm mount along with bracket. So for the price of all new RE arms I figured I would go with this. Install was really easy. The only thing I noticed is that rock rails interfere with the mount so I will be modifying those here soon.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v232/jaredalv/la11.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v232/jaredalv/la5.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v232/jaredalv/la9.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v232/jaredalv/la8.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v232/jaredalv/la10.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v232/jaredalv/la7.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v232/jaredalv/LA.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v232/jaredalv/LA2.jpg

Ill get some better on rig shots of the arms tomorrow. And maybe a few mall crawling pics haha.

[Mike L]

Looks good. What bushuing assembly is this:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v232/jaredalv/LA.jpg

Thanks,
Mike

[codeman8118]

hey im installing my setup here in a week or so...can you post a pic of your upper control arm bracket setup?

[xjrrrdx]

Looks good. What bushuing assembly is this:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v232/jaredalv/LA.jpg

Thanks,
Mike

Its a rockkrawler bushing/joint. It looks just like a superflex joint but supposedly it is more forgiving.

Tomorrow ill get that LCA bracket for you

[mack]

not very much to that setup, how long it that take?

[Jim63]

looks good! I want to run this, can we see some more pics!!

[xjrrrdx]

Took me two days, just based on I dont know how to weld so I had to find someone with free time. Installing the actual kit once it was all welded was like an hour. If you have an air hammer the bushing will come out like cake, but I had a hammer and thats it so it took like 20 mins. It was really simple to install. All the arms come with zerks to grease them, and you can drill into the UCA bracket and tap it to grease the UCA axle bracket. Ill take some pics this afternoon, I am actually in class now haha. Rides 100x better now.

[cherowagon]

i would like some better overall pics too. and a link to the site possibly?

[Mike L]

i would like some better overall pics too. and a link to the site possibly?

WWW.ROCKKRAWLER.COM

[cherowagon]

is this a good alternative to four link? i have boxed my subframe, so welding to the unit-body will not be an issue.

[xjrrrdx]

The only thing I have read is there will be no binding at all. But then again I have read here and at pirate that a well set up four link will do just as well.

Here are some better pics:
This is where I had to remove my drivers rock rail because the mount got in the way of the torque arm mount. So sometime this week I am having a friend re-weld the mount about 7" over to the side.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v232/jaredalv/driversside.jpg
Before all was tightened.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v232/jaredalv/torquearm2.jpg

Here is a better actual arm shot.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v232/jaredalv/driversside3.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v232/jaredalv/driversside4.jpg

Ill get some of the UCA in a little bit.

I dont know how tall I am sitting, I used 3.5" ZJ coils with 1.75" spacer, because my ass was still higher. In the rear I have Rustys 3" full pack with RE 1.5" boomerang so its even now.

[SourApple]

what size tires did you say. thanks

[rangerjoe2001]

That UCA mount buisness sucks big ones. How do ya think ya are gonna fix it?

[xjrrrdx]

I am on 34" Trxus MTs.

I am not sure what you mean the mount sucks?? As in it sucks because of removing rails or just the mounting system?? Either way I dont know. From what I have seen it seems pretty sturdy, and the rails are no big deal but if I am missing something that I should be looking that may fail or just be a pain in my ass, I would like to know so I dont end up posting how to fix something else AGAIN lol.

[SourApple]

hey bro can you take a picture of your entire jeep. i want to see the 34's with that much lift and the longarms. im about to go to that much lift and i have to buy arms and im not sure if i want to buy the short arms or if i want those long arms. thanks alot

[mgfabpd]

I want that joint for the upper arm mount on the axle, and I cant find it on their site, do you have a part # that I could search for, or a link to the page?

[xjrrrdx]

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v232/jaredalv/sourapple.jpg

There you go sourapple.

As far as the joint, i am not sure at all, let me grab the instructions on the parts list to see if it came with a Part #.

[GirlScout1]

call rock crawler and they will sell you the joint seperately. IIRC they are like $30 or so. I have the RK set-up and I am happy with it. Just make sure all is tight and go!

[kirby]

Why doesn't rockkrawler use their krawler joint at the frame mount of the uca? Is it too big to fit? Isn't that supposed to be a stronger joint?

[mgfabpd]

Thanks Girlscout, I will call them tomarrow.

[Mike L]

Its a rockkrawler bushing/joint. It looks just like a superflex joint but supposedly it is more forgiving.

Tomorrow ill get that LCA bracket for you

Those 4 bolts are what is holding it together? Any interference from the bolts on the arm bracket? Is the UCA bushing greasable? What about the joints in the lowers?

-Mike

[SourApple]

xjrrdx.... its safe to say that you are my hero. im ordering my long arms asap. but your jeep seems really big for having 3.5 coild and spacers and 3inch packs with shackles. but i like it alot

[rangerjoe2001]

i meant it sucks that you have to take off the rock rail. I never even thought about the upper control arm bracket interfering with the rockrail mount.

I am buying these long arms so i guess i will have to figure out some way of getting around the problem.

im gonna probably re weld mine and make a rockrail/ uca mount plate into one solid plate!

[GirlScout1]

I almost ran into the same problem. I put off finishing my rails until I had my long arms on.

-b

[Mike L]

I almost ran into the same problem. I put off finishing my rails until I had my long arms on.

-b

Or you could have just welded the upper mount to the frame rail instead of using the bolts. Just a thought.

-Mike

[codeman8118]

xjrrdx.... its safe to say that you are my hero. im ordering my long arms asap. but your jeep seems really big for having 3.5 coild and spacers and 3inch packs with shackles. but i like it alot

he's got zj coils which are actually an inch bigger on the xj so it would probably net 4.5" plus the spacer...

[matt6669]

looking good my man glad to see you finally got those babies on. You got the color jeep that i wanted im jealous hahaha

Like i said on jf, if anyone is interested in the deal with gave the op, we are still honoring it, pm me for details.

xjrrrdx im going to take some of these pics off of naxja and post them up on the webpage

Matt

[xjrrrdx]

As far as the four bolts interfering with the UCA mount, they cleared it barely. I think its going to take a lot of force in order to move that bracket. But as Matt said in a PM, do yourself a favor and get yourself a right angle drill. A normal drill can drill through the frame rail but once you get to the other side it will be hard to get a straight hole.

Tomorrow im going to a buddies house to move the mount on my rockrail over and re-weld it. I really need to learn how to do it haha.

So from what I gather im near 6.5" so good to know. Now I just need to hit a trail.

I have AJs rails so tomorrow hopefully I will have the relocated mount and all that. As far as that goes, can I reuse self tappers on the same hole? or will I need to do something different?

[rangerjoe2001]

As far as the four bolts interfering with the UCA mount, they cleared it barely. I think its going to take a lot of force in order to move that bracket. But as Matt said in a PM, do yourself a favor and get yourself a right angle drill. A normal drill can drill through the frame rail but once you get to the other side it will be hard to get a straight hole.

Tomorrow im going to a buddies house to move the mount on my rockrail over and re-weld it. I really need to learn how to do it haha.

So from what I gather im near 6.5" so good to know. Now I just need to hit a trail.

I have AJs rails so tomorrow hopefully I will have the relocated mount and all that. As far as that goes, can I reuse self tappers on the same hole? or will I need to do something different?


so you mean they cleared it barely? So why are you re-doing it

[xjrrrdx]

Oh I thought you were talking about the little UCA bushing, the bolts are almost too long for the bushing to where it almost touches the arm. But what I am redoing is my rock rail mount it sits on top and hangs over a bit on the bracket.

[Mike L]

so you mean they cleared it barely? So why are you re-doing it

The 4 bolts holding the UCA at the axle together......................

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v232/jaredalv/LA.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v232/jaredalv/LA2.jpg


-Mike

[RWKHausSupply]

I want that joint for the upper arm mount on the axle, and I cant find it on their site, do you have a part # that I could search for, or a link to the page?

If yoru only looking for that joint in the housing and or the the other axle end in a orbital eye type, GO to the Currie site. They offer one or both. On thier site its both for like 125ish I think? But they use a Johnny joint which (sorry not trying to bash but honestly) I would trust more.

[mgfabpd]

Thanks RobertK

[rangerjoe2001]

Oh I thought you were talking about the little UCA bushing, the bolts are almost too long for the bushing to where it almost touches the arm. But what I am redoing is my rock rail mount it sits on top and hangs over a bit on the bracket.

well will you take pictures after you modify it? plz?

[kirby]

Does anybody know if you can just flip the uca bracket and use it on the pass side instead of the driverside? I ask because I have a pass side diff and the exhaust might get in the way.

[XJ Ben]

Not really.. If you look close the UCA "frame" mount is offset (down). You would need to locate the whole mount higher than the floorboard would allow. Or use a BFH and have the mount offset up into the floorboard area. This would change the INTENDED handling. Would it be enough to matter??

[xjrrrdx]

Here are my rock rails after moving the brackets over, I didnt do any of the really structuraly important welding, but I did some and lets say they were pretty but ended up surface welds. Then the penetrating welds were ugly as all hell haha. All in all the welds arent pretty but they will hold and I have my protection back.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v232/jaredalv/relocated2.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v232/jaredalv/relocated1.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v232/jaredalv/relocated.jpg

[rangerjoe2001]

looks good, now go flex it up, and wheel it, and lets hear some feedback.

[xjrrrdx]

I definitly need to wheel it soon. Ive been waitning on PORC to ship my gears. I ordered them like 3 weeks ago. So if I dont see anything on my statement by the end of this week ill go somewhere else.

[codeman8118]

hey in the upper control arm part...is the red stuff lock-tite? or what..i got this kit, and that isn't included and i was just wondering if that would help a bit?

[xj-grin]

hey in the upper control arm part...is the red stuff lock-tite? or what..i got this kit, and that isn't included and i was just wondering if that would help a bit?

I am betting that is red "Ford" grease....

[fdsa487]

I am betting that is red "Ford" grease....

Any sign of death wobble and/or more or less bump steer?
Flex pics on the way!!!???

[aussiewheeler]

yeah lets see some flex pics

[tonesxj]

Nice,

I have the same setup. So far I am happy with it, we welded that upper mount to frame rail. Worked out nice
Here are a couple pics of mine w/ 35's. Bumpstopped, w/ more room to flex. These are the only pics I have since I installed it.

http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y267/tonesxj/th_2.jpg (http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y267/tonesxj/2.jpg)

http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y267/tonesxj/th_flex.jpg (http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y267/tonesxj/flex.jpg)
http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y267/tonesxj/th_JpL.jpg (http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y267/tonesxj/JpL.jpg)
My buddies
http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y267/tonesxj/th_103_0341.jpg (http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y267/tonesxj/103_0341.jpg)

[xjrrrdx]

No death wobble at all. Not much body roll unless the discos are off. I went to switzerland gulch the other day and there were no flex shots, tonight ill try to get some mall crawl shots haha.

[xjrrrdx]

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v232/jaredalv/flex.jpg
Thats about the best I have right now, I didnt max it out at all, I have OME long travels that are limiting me. So I will just ditch those up front. I was looking at the Bilstein 5100s but they have an eye on both ends, anyone know a way or little adapter to make them fit, or another brand of 11" travel shock that will fit without any adapters or modifying??

[Matt98XJ]

http://rustysoffroad.com/Merchant2/merchant.mvc?Screen=PROD&Product_Code=SC-50&Category_Code=bui

[99xjache]

Bilstein make an adapter for their 5100 and 5150's now. I just put 12" on with a threaded post adapter with 6.5" of lift. they work great.

Aaron

[matt6669]

i couldn't agree more with the 5150's. If you drive your truck everday and do a lot of highway miles you can't beat the 5150's. by far the best shock out there next to coilovers.

hey xjrrdx did porc even end up shipping your gears....? If not drop me a pm, im putting together quite the large order so if you want to get in, ill be able to save you some more money. And if you need 5100's or 5150's we can take care of that as well.

Looking good flexing it out, but like you said, you've got wayyy more flex coming to you with long shocks. Truck is looking good though :thumbup: :thumbup:

Matt

[XJ Ben]

99XJACHE
I understand the ache! I was wondering about the specs for your tire size, fender mods, and bump stops? I was wanting to try the 12" shocks my self. Just worried about the potential loss for up travel. TIA