Just bought overhead computer console for my 00 XJ. Any tips?

[JTS97Z28]

Just won an auction for a nice overhead computer console pulled from a 2000 XJ with complete harness. Just wondering if anyone has any tips for me when I do the install. The console will be going in my 2000 so there should be no problems with wiring and harnesses. I did a search and found some info but anything else is greatly appreciated.
Thanks,
JT

[2000XJSPORT]

I installed one into my 2000 XJ and it was pretty easy. The only thing is making sure you cut the roof liner right so that it fits. Also make sure you have the right mounting bracket. The dome light one that come on sports w/o OHC will not work. My friend installed one too and I did a write up with all the measurments and pics and what to do for him. If you would like a copie I can send it to you.
Alex

http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a75/ADSBNSF/Picture003.jpg

[JTS97Z28]

Please do send it that would be great. My e-mail is JTS90SC@Comcast.net

Also, where and how much for the bracket? assuming its dealership only item. And can you think of anything else I will need to complete the job (besides the temp sensor)?

Thanks

P.S. where you located in IL im in the Chicago NW burbs (and it sure aint 73 out now like your OHC says :-)

[JEEPZZ]

The mounting bracket can be purchased at the dealership for about 7 bucks.

[2000XJSPORT]

I will send the write up to you and let me know if you need any help. The mounting brack is OEM part number 55352518AB and it should not cost much. I live out in the western suburbs of Chicago in St. Charles. The pic was taken when I installed the console back in June.
Alex

[CajunXJMike]

Did they ever make the OHC in Tan?
-M

[Gridikal]

Did they ever make the OHC in Tan?
-M

Yup. I have one

[gptrilik]

I wouldn't mind a copy of that write up for installing the overhead console either.. Please email it to george.trilikis@gmail.com

Thanks,

George.

[JEEPZZ]

Just post the write up here to help future installers. :D

[JrTxJ]

any updates or info on this? i just bought one from a 97 xj for my 2001 but couldn't find stock wiring above my headliner. there is one plug that fits, but seems like the important one is missing. i guess i'll have to go back to the salvage yard and get the wiring. does anyone know if i get the harness, how far back do i have to get the wiring and where does it end/attach to near the dashboard? does it plug in near the ecu or somewhere in particular? i got mine for $20! and am really looking forward to installing it. thanks guys

[5-90]

May I have a copy? I'd like to post it to XJOG, if you don't mind...

dragonland2001 AT yahoo DOT com

5-90

[2000XJSPORT]

I have posted the Overhead Console writeup so that you can download it and use it. Hope this helps.
Alex

http://www.savefile.com/files/6228131

[BCKNBLK]

I feel as if my hands have now touched the Gold so long sought after by so many, but realized by so few, and now my eyes are finally opened to what I may experience in life now that my deep desires are fulfilled by the presence of this write-up allowing me to surge forward with my overhead console installation. Thank You brother 2000XJSport for showing me the light and giving me inspiration.

[2000XJSPORT]

Your welcome.
Alex

[JrTxJ]

my computer is awful and for some reason isn't letting me save that...i guess i'll have to try it from another computer later. sorry to be a newb, but can someone give me a definative yes or no if 01s are prewired for this?

i'm hoping the harness is taped somewhere just waiting and the only thing i need to pick up is the sensor on the front bumper.

[2000XJSPORT]

The overhead console wiring is not installed in 1997-2001 XJ that did not come factory with the overhead console installed. The only harness up there is for the dome light and keyless entry. The overhead console harness has another plug for the computer. You will have to buy this harness or get one from the donner XJ. Remmenber that the harness for each year has a diffrent connector on the end you plug in behind the glove box. 2000 and 2001 are the same so either year will work for you. The harness runs down the passenger side a pilar to a connector right behind the glove box. All you have to do it swap out the old harness and plug in the new. I have the part number for 2001, but i recommend you chech with the dealer on it to be sure 100%. OEM# 56009757AD. Hope this helps.
Alex

[Tim_MN]

Get the wire harness from the donor at the junkyard and be sure to get both sides of all the plugs in the passenger footwell. Yank out and cut off as much extra wire as you can get. If the donor is a different year you can eliminate the plugs altogether and connect the wires directly or you can swap the donor plug ends into your XJ. You may need to remove a bolt on the dash that connects the dash to the side of the XJ so you have room to move the dash and get the wires out from behind it. Pay attention to how you get the plastic trim off the window pillar so you don't damage yours.
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Here are some pics of how the headliner is cut for a factory console.
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http://www.fototime.com/85A0D44214A5EDB/standard.jpg

http://www.fototime.com/E5A83BBA568A4A2/standard.jpg

http://www.fototime.com/C46E3900F3F8568/standard.jpg

[rapom]

Here is some more info on the overhead console install. You don't need the wiring harness to install the console. If you have the Dome light with the Keyless entry computer in it which you will have whether you have the option or not. It is real easy to wire up the console. You just have to run 2 wires to the temp. sensor and one wire to 12+. I used 2 trailer harnesses to make it easy. I won mine on ebay and it has been working perfectly for over 6 months now. Here is the website.

www.paceenterprises.us/Console.html


Here is a write up on the install by another Jeeper.

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98 o/h console into a 97 sport...

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Well, first of all let me say thanx to Jeepzz for all the helpfull information on this topic. I am not going to repeat all the info that he has given me as it would take me forever and is already available on here (threads called "wiring diagram for overhead console" and "another overhead console thread"), but I do have some findings of my own to put on here in addition to jeepzz in case it may help others.

I recently put a 98 o/h console with a 98 harness into my 97 cherokee sport. For some of you, this can be a challenge depending on what year jeep you have, and if you have keyless entry, and what year your console and harness came out of. This info is for ppl who are taking a 98 unit with keyless entry and putting it into a 97 with keyless entry. Here's how..

1. Disconnect the battery.
2. Remove your kick panel on the passenger side, glove box, and A pillar shrouds. This will probably require unscrewing the plastic finish under the far right air vent on your dash beside the glove box as it is a bit tricky, and unscrewing your O sh*t handles. These have hex nuts.
3. Moving up, remove the sunvisers, and their clips, your dome light, and finally the little plastic dome in the front centre of the headliner. Behind here you will find your keyless entry electronics. Keep this.
4. At this point your headliner will be loose, and you can start removing the wiring harness for all the stuff you just took out, it all just unclips.
5. Once you get down to the door, go down to the junction block and find the connection for the keyless entry. It will be located right at the bottom and is a bigger pigtail. Leave a couple inches, and clip this one off.
6. Next, unplug the wiring for the lights, it is a little 3 wire plug with pink, yellow, and black wires coming out of it and is located at the top right corner of the junction box if you were looking straight at it.
7. Pull the harness out through the side of the dash. Half way there!
8. Next, take the new harness, and identify the keyless entry pigtail. Do this by locating the computer data plug. It will be located behind the glovebox on the lower right hand side and will be empty. Find the pigtail on the 98 harness that fits into this, and clip off the other pigtail of similar size. (keyless entry)
9. feed the two pigtails and the keyless entry wire through the same area you pulled the 97 harness out of.
10. Attach the 97 pigtail for the keyless entry and plug it in. Plug in the lighting pigtail, and then plug in the computer pigtail.
11. Route harness up the A pillar, clipping it in along the way, and run it up into center of the headliner. Be sure to pull the plugs for the visors through the headliner. The driver side is tricky for this, you might need to lossen the a pillar assembly enough to get the headliner to come down enough to feed it through.
12. Now comes the fun part, cutting the headliner. The mounting bracket simply screws into the holes from from your dome light. Cut the headliner so this will fit, but don't over cut. Then cut the hole behind for the console tounge to fit into.
13. Now you need to replace your keyless entry circuitry from your pod into the overhead console, otherwise your keyless won't work. If you have an aftermarket alarm, this might not be needed, your alarm a try to see.
14. Once you have replaced the keyless circuit, go ahead and do a test. First connect your console, then the battery. You should note the lights come on. Now try your keyless to see if it should work, and turn your ignition to the on postion to check the computer dislplay.
15. This is where some people have trouble, as the keyless and lights work, but the computer doesn't. It may NOT be a power supply problem. IF you have a dislplay, re-assemble everything, you are done. If not, read on...

At this point you need to do a power check. First check all your fuses. The fuse you need to check is #17 under the hood, and is a 15A. Then check #17 in the kick panel. If this is good (fix it if it is not), turn the ignition off and disconnect the battery. Check for continuity in the gound curcuit cavities in the o/h console harness. (these are points 1,7,and 12, or the top right and bottom two outer pins left and right). If that is ok, re-connect the battery and check for power in the harness. It is in points 2 and 6, or the top left point, and the 2nd in from the right (top). If you have power here, you do not have a power delivery problem. However, if you want to be a keener, you can also check to see that there is power being delivered to the computer by testing for power in the little harness directly connected to the computer. Power is the second point in from the right. If you have power here, you do not have a power problem.

Next, and this is the part that most don't know about, you need to do a self diagnostic test and reset.

1. with the ignition off, press and hold the step and US/Metric buttons simultaniously.
2. While holding these, turn on the ignition.
3. Continue to hold these down. The computer should come on. Continue holding until and during all of the lights turn on. If they do not come on after after 5 seconds, your computer is bunk. If they do, the computer does a self diagnostic, resets, checks CCD data, and will return to normal operation right after the test.
4. If it fails, the computer will display fail, and the unit is faulty. If it displays CCD, you will need to go to the dealership as they will need to hook it up to a comupter.
5. At this point, if it is working, you can put everything back together.

Well, that is about it, I hope this helps some of you out. It has been suggested that someone combines all of these threads into one, but i just don't have the time. However, if any of you need more tech data, I have a bunch and can probably fax it to you if you need it. Cheers!

I think the other earlier posts answered most of the other questions. The Temp. sensor runs about $20 at the dealer.
Good luck

[JEEPZZ]

Well, first of all let me say thanx to Jeepzz for all the helpfull information on this topic...

Your welcome! :D

[JrTxJ]

i went back and picked up the main wiring harness for the console, but when i went to install it they still didn't match the harnesses in my car under the glovebox. should i go back to the junkyard (far away) and get the other ones and splice them in, or should i just cut the harness off the wiring i removed, splice together the wires that are the same color, and then regularly splice the other wires to the left over corresponding wires? i noticed there were about 3 left over on the new wiring harness that aren't in my car. anyone have any knowledge of these? thanks!

i wrote the colors down but don't have them here...i'll edit later or update in this thread, but i believe there was a gray wire, a dark blue, and a blue with white or light gray stripe. i looked in my haynes manual but it stinks and doesn't list those specific ones. just mentions orange and black and the pink and yellow power wires for the overhead lighting. thanks for any help.

[JEEPZZ]

What model year is the wiring harness from and what year is your Jeep?

[Boatwrench]

The wires should match, however they are in the incorrect holes in the connector. I had to pull 2 or 3 pins from the OH harness connector and reposition in the correct holes. I did this last year with input from Tim in MN and Ketjar. Becareful removing the pins, there are spring clips on the pins that need to be compressed and then push the pin out the wire side.

here's the thread.
http://www.naxja.org/forum/showthread.php?t=45673&highlight=console
Tom

[JrTxJ]

my car is a 2001 and the wiring/console came from a 97. i'll have to keep that last thread in mind when i go searching again in the daylight to finish the install. thanks Tom! i hope i figure it out and appreciate the input.

[JEEPZZ]

Here's pic of the different types of OHC wiring harness throughout the years 97-01.
These are the ends that plug into the Jeep (behind the passenger kick panel). The console end are all identical. I've posted this info many times before but I'll list it again for you here.

Top is 97
next is 98
then 99
and last is 00-01 (the only years that shared the same OHC wiring)
All can be made to work with other years (97-01) with some modification. I've done several of each style, yes that's my hand in the pics.

http://home.earthlink.net/~jeepzz/sitebuildercontent/sitebuilderpictures/wiringharness97_98_99and00thru01.jpg

As you can see after 98 Jeep decided to move all the wiring for the OHC and keyless entry into one large plug rather than one for each. The small 3 wire connector is for the dome/map lights in all 4 harnesses.
Please note the 00-01 connector in the bottom pic is only wired for keyless entry but not the OHC. This explains the 4 missing wires/pins.

Use my info here and the PaceEnterprises webpage to color match the wires and you'll be set to go with your 97 harness in your 01. btw, I've got a 98 harness connected to an 01 console spliced into my 97. I've got the matching '01 headliner too.

Here's a pic of the different OHC colors throughout the years 97-01.

From left to right:

97-98 Tan
99-01 Tan
97 Gray
98 (and some early 99) Gray
99-01 Light Gray

http://home.earthlink.net/~jeepzz/sitebuildercontent/sitebuilderpictures/dsc04287s.jpg

As for headliners, 97 was the only year (97-01) that used a separate sound bar at the rear of the headliner. In 98 the rear speaker mounts came molded into the back end of the headliner and angled further forward for better sound.

[JrTxJ]

well...the interior lights work. but, no more keyless entry (yes i swapped in my board), no compass or anything showing on the console. :( i checked the interior 17 fuse and it was fine. i guess i'll have to go over all my wiring tomorrow when i actually get some sunlight and can see what i'm doing. not having keyless realllllllly sucks though!

[JrTxJ]

ahh still no dice. i found i had two wires mixed up, but when i corrected them, still nothing! i went to the junkyard to look for 2k/2k1 wiring but had no luck finding one wired for the console. i guess i'll have to go over it again and again but for now, i hate hate hate not having keyless entry and am disappointed the console isn't working. atleast i finally have it mounted...any advice or ideas? i hope i didn't somehow fry the keyless board and that the console isn't brain dead, so to speak.

[2000XJSPORT]

Not sure if you did this, but did you swap in your original Keyless entry board in the console you are installing. If you use the one in the console you got it will not work. As for the computer I am not sure. Try pushing the step button and see if anything happens. I have herd of some consoles that came from the factory with out the computer function, but it looks like it has it. This might not be the case for you and I am not sure if you know if it was working before you got it. Other than that all I can say is check over the wireing and make sure power is getting to the computer.
Alex

[alpinetiburon04]

Here's a trick for you guys: I've got a 91 sport with NO (really. there aren't ANY.) wiring above the headliner. However, underneathe the dash board (on pass and driver sides) there are many (yes. lots of them.) unused connectors. I want to put a 97+ o/h console into my 91. I know I'm going to have to grab a temp sensor and staple in onto the front end, but what eles would you guys recommend? Should I get the donor harness and splice it? Think it'll work? I'm not sure if this can be done. The wiring would be totally different, and I'm thinking I'll have to just run my own wiring all over the place. Any suggestions? (other than not doing it because I'm an idiot and still haven't fixed my water pump?)

[JEEPZZ]

Here's a trick for you guys: I've got a 91 sport with NO (really. there aren't ANY.) wiring above the headliner. However, underneathe the dash board (on pass and driver sides) there are many (yes. lots of them.) unused connectors. I want to put a 97+ o/h console into my 91. I know I'm going to have to grab a temp sensor and staple in onto the front end, but what eles would you guys recommend? Should I get the donor harness and splice it? Think it'll work? I'm not sure if this can be done. The wiring would be totally different, and I'm thinking I'll have to just run my own wiring all over the place. Any suggestions? (other than not doing it because I'm an idiot and still haven't fixed my water pump?)
Other than the temp and compass, the other features won't work;. different computers.
You'd be much better off getting an earlier console for less than half the price of a 97+.

[alpinetiburon04]

I thought the temp and compass were the only features. What else is there?

[JEEPZZ]

I thought the temp and compass were the only features. What else is there?
Nothing else on a 91.

[alpinetiburon04]

No I mean on a 97 - 01. What features does the console have? I thought it was just a compass and exterior temperature.

[2000XJSPORT]

No I mean on a 97 - 01. What features does the console have? I thought it was just a compass and exterior temperature.

The 97-01 Console come with:
† Compass and temperature
† Trip odometer (ODO)
† Average fuel economy (AVG ECO)
† Instant fuel economy (ECO)
† Distance to empty (DTE)
† Elapsed time (ET)
† Blank display.

Hope this helps,
Alex

[alpinetiburon04]

I had a Hyundai Tiburon that had some weird options that weren't available in the states. As long as you had a wiring diagram on the whole car, you could make this stuff work because it ran off of data that was already being read somewhere else.

Would this work for the console also? Or does the console computer run off of OBDII data, where-as my 91 Jeep runs OBDI data? I feel like I could just splice into stuff all around the cabin and get the same features. Yes? No?

[JrTxJ]

i still have a dark blue with gray stripe and a full gray wire unaccounted for and don't see the wiring car side. does anyone have an idea on these? the hayne's manual wiring diagram sucks and doesn't list the colors or much of anything.

[2000XJSPORT]

Here is the wire colors and spots for the 2000 and 2001 plug on the OHC console wireing. There are three more wires, but they are for power on the seperate smaller plug. Hope this helps,
Alex

http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a75/ADSBNSF/OHCplug.jpg

[JrTxJ]

thanks...
i just copied all the http://www.paceenterprises.us/Console.html stuff onto a piece of paper and am going to go over everything with that. if i read correctly, the dark blue wire should be the Fused Ignition (st-run) wire and needs to be connected. hopefully this solves my problem because to the best of my knowledge, all my other wires were connected correctly. other than that one, i guess i might need to connect the ambient temp. sensor and the sensor's ground and hopefully it should be ready to rock. hoping i get my darn keyless entry back, too, haha! sorry i'm a pain!

[JEEPZZ]

I feel like I could just splice into stuff all around the cabin and get the same features. Yes? No?
I knew that his would be your next question that's why I said that's all (temp & compass) that would work in your '91.
The answer in no, it won't work.

[JrTxJ]

1/2 success!! i apologize for not making my own thread, but hopefully if someone searches and they have this problem they're realize how easy it is to mess up, too. i had accidently connected the two different white/black wires incorrectly, so i swapped them and now the console comes on!

however, my keyless entry still doesn't work. when i reconnect the harness, the power locks kick (meaning they're getting power) but my remote doesn't lock or unlock the car. i still have to key in. i noticed on the new harness those two extra wires i was talking about before come from the keyless entry circuit board. i wonder if because they're connected on one end and have no where else to go on the other if that is messing it up?!?

[JEEPZZ]

1/2 success!! i apologize for not making my own thread, but hopefully if someone searches and they have this problem they're realize how easy it is to mess up, too. i had accidently connected the two different white/black wires incorrectly, so i swapped them and now the console comes on!

however, my keyless entry still doesn't work. when i reconnect the harness, the power locks kick (meaning they're getting power) but my remote doesn't lock or unlock the car. i still have to key in. i noticed on the new harness those two extra wires i was talking about before come from the keyless entry circuit board. i wonder if because they're connected on one end and have no where else to go on the other if that is messing it up?!?
LOL. I originally made that mistake too on the 2 black and white striped wires. Good thing that when they are incorrectly reversed nothing gets fried. One is the data info wire and the other is a ground IIRC so if they're swapped you'll still be in good shape. Whew! :D

As for the keyless, do you still have the same receiver board as before? If not, you'll need it programmed.

[JrTxJ]

yeah i was happy i didn't fry anything, and lucky!!

yes i swapped out my original keyless board from the overhead light to the new console. (broke one of those darn screws too that holds it in)

as far as reprograming, i'll have to search for a write up hopefully on here or jeepforum or something. i know with many other cars, if you pick up the factory keyless remote and have the modules and stuff, there is a procedure to program it. hoping there's one here for me and that's it, but who knows...

[2000XJSPORT]

yeah i was happy i didn't fry anything, and lucky!!

yes i swapped out my original keyless board from the overhead light to the new console. (broke one of those darn screws too that holds it in)

as far as reprograming, i'll have to search for a write up hopefully on here or jeepforum or something. i know with many other cars, if you pick up the factory keyless remote and have the modules and stuff, there is a procedure to program it. hoping there's one here for me and that's it, but who knows...

For 97-01 XJ's the remotes have to be programed with a computer at the dealership. This is what I was told on another thread that is. I tried to do it on my on, but had no luck. So when I got the oil changed at the dealership. I just ask if they could program the remote and they did. Never got charged for it, but I'm sure each dealership is diffrent.
Alex

[JEEPZZ]

yeah i was happy i didn't fry anything, and lucky!!

yes i swapped out my original keyless board from the overhead light to the new console. (broke one of those darn screws too that holds it in)

as far as reprograming, i'll have to search for a write up hopefully on here or jeepforum or something. i know with many other cars, if you pick up the factory keyless remote and have the modules and stuff, there is a procedure to program it. hoping there's one here for me and that's it, but who knows...
If you still have your original keyless receiver board it won't need to be reprogrammed. You'll just need to figure out your wiring until you get it to work.
For 97-01 XJ's the remotes have to be programed with a computer at the dealership. This is what I was told on another thread that is. I tried to do it on my on, but had no luck. So when I got the oil changed at the dealership. I just ask if they could program the remote and they did. Never got charged for it, but I'm sure each dealership is diffrent.
Alex
It's actually the other way around, the Jeep (receiver board) is programmed to receive the signal the remote sends out. If have have more than one remote you'll need bring them both with you to have the Jeep programmed to recognize BOTH remotes.
So if you lose a remote, get a new one programmed into the Jeep and then find your old remote, your old remote will no longer work since the Jeep will now only recognize the new signal.
Hope that made sense and wasn't more confusing? :D

[CRCs Reality]

:)

Big thanks to all for the info in this thread!
I just finished installing the console from a 2000 I won on Ebay into my '99 with no problems at all. Works great, thanks for the good pictures of the headliner cuts, and especially the wiring info in this link (http://www.paceenterprises.us/Console.html). I had a bit of splicing to do, but managed to use my existing wiring harness, plus three wires I ran in addition down to the kick-panel. That and a console bracket from a ZJ (modified a little) and it went quite smooth.
Thanks again all!

[Chasjr1]

Just a reminder, I put one in my 2000 Sport and had no Temp. Found harness behind bumper, but no sensor. But one from O'Reilly's, $14.

[CHUGLYxj]

I just want to take a moment to thank everyone for the advise and let it be known that searching is the way to find what you need! I installed a overhead console from a 99 in my 01 last night and then fixed it today. I had to relocate the pins in the plug and when it didn't work I knew that it was the white/black wire crossed. Thanks again to everyone.

[BlueCuda]

Getting ready to do one myself. Salvage said $50 with the harness so we will see what all they give me when they get it pulled. One of the yards I talked to told me I would have to have the dealer check my VIN to see if it would work. My XJ is an oddly optioned SE model I guess. It had ABS, power mirrors, AM/FM Cassete, Full Cluster, Rear Defrost and wiper, Sentry lights, Courtesy lights and lighted visors, but it came will roll your own windows and manual locks. It is wired for the temp sensor up front though for sure.

Thanks for the info and links in this post!

[Blaine B.]

Is the compass built in?

[casm]

Is the compass built in?

Yes, it was only the temperature sensor that was external. Never use a mag-mount CB antenna if you've got an overhead console and want the compass to work...

[Blaine B.]

LOL makes sense. Sorta like when I was a little tot, I'd think forward was always north (I was like 5, give me a break!)

[BlueCuda]

Salvage just called me, they cut the harness at the bottom of the A-pillar will I be able to run wire for that and make it work still?

[BlueCuda]

Salvage just called me, they cut the harness at the bottom of the A-pillar will I be able to run wire for that and make it work still?

Anyone had to do this?

[JEEPZZ]

Anyone had to do this?
Yep it's been done. Someone even has it all diagramed out as to what wire goes where. Run a search and you should find iit.

It would be much easier to just go back to the wrecking yard and get the last 2 feet of wiring you need. Just remove the glove box door (just a few screws) to get to wiring connectors on the passenger kick panel for the overhead console harness. It should take you all of 3 or 4 minutes to remove.

[BlueCuda]

Yep it's been done. Someone even has it all diagramed out as to what wire goes where. Run a search and you should find iit.

It would be much easier to just go back to the wrecking yard and get the last 2 feet of wiring you need. Just remove the glove box door (just a few screws) to get to wiring connectors on the passenger kick panel for the overhead console harness. It should take you all of 3 or 4 minutes to remove.

Cool, I got the idea from another post that its part of the main harness and involves all the wiring for everything in the cieling? Either way its not a U-pull yard but I will see if I can get them to let me do it.

[Blaine B.]

I saw an overhead computer at the local pick-and-pull but it was mangled and the LCD panels were smashed in :(

[JEEPZZ]

Cool, I got the idea from another post that its part of the main harness and involves all the wiring for everything in the cieling? Either way its not a U-pull yard but I will see if I can get them to let me do it.
Nope, it's not part of the main harness. If they cut it at the A pillar down by the dash, there will only be another foot or two of wiring before the connectors.

[JEEPZZ]

Anyone had to do this?
I just re-read through a few earlier pages in this post and the link I spoke of is listed. It's the Pace-enterprises link. It'll guide you through wiring up the console with your partial harness (or without one altogether). :cheers:

[BlueCuda]

Cool thanks a ton man!

[Nevada City Sparky]

Man, I wish I could put one of those in mine. Unfortunately, mines got a sunroof which is useless with a rack and living in the deep, wet woods.

Wish there was an easy way to remove and patch with a steel panel.

[BlueCuda]

I wonder if you coudl use one from a grand with a sunroof? I am sure the computer part works the same.

This one is from an 04 so I doubt it works but worth checking into them.

http://media.mainstreetcommerce.com/3.9/media/get_image.aspx?domain=lkqonline.com&item_guid=8a2ec5ca-47a3-41b2-a97b-d3c6a129aeb4&size=1

[JEEPZZ]

Man, I wish I could put one of those in mine. Unfortunately, mines got a sunroof which is useless with a rack and living in the deep, wet woods.

Wish there was an easy way to remove and patch with a steel panel.

I wonder if you coudl use one from a grand with a sunroof? I am sure the computer part works the same.

This one is from an 04 so I doubt it works but worth checking into them.

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The WJ Grand Cherokee overhead will not work in the XJ. The WJ's overhead gets all of it's info from the body control module, included temp and compass. If you use an earlier ZJ console, only the 93-95 will display temp & compass. The ZJ 96-98 will only display compass on it, no temp since the temp info comes from the non-compatible body control module.
Both styles on ZJ console will not display computer/mileage functions for the same reason.


Here's a 96-98 ZJ console mounted in an XJ. It's a lot of work but it can be done. Notice no temperature readout on the display.

http://home.earthlink.net/~jeepzz/sitebuildercontent/sitebuilderpictures/xj_overhead_console_from_zj2s.jpg


Here's an easier solution for a sunroof:

http://home.earthlink.net/~jeepzz/sitebuildercontent/sitebuilderpictures/xjoverheadconsolesunroof1.jpg
http://home.earthlink.net/~jeepzz/sitebuildercontent/sitebuilderpictures/xjoverheadconsolesunroof3.jpg

[JEEPZZ]

...speaking of cutting consoles in half, here's a cool little addition for the rear seat passengers.

http://home.earthlink.net/~jeepzz/sitebuildercontent/sitebuilderpictures/overheadtv.jpg
http://home.earthlink.net/~jeepzz/sitebuildercontent/sitebuilderpictures/xjoverheadconsoletv2.jpg

[BlueCuda]

Well I manage to get it pulled, it was a bitch getting the harness out of the mangled XJ. That and I probably had enough tools in my tool bag to pull the motor but only brough one screwdriver and it was todamnXXXXinglong :D. Got it taken care of though.

[CHUGLYxj]

as for the sunroof, if one had a short OHC for the later ZJ and a long OHC for an XJ why not just swap the info/display boards and display? They look to be the same from the outside and when I installed mine it looked to be removable.

?? Just thinking

Also with the rear drop down screen how hard was that to install, very cool and would be a good addition to mine.

[JEEPZZ]

as for the sunroof, if one had a short OHC for the later ZJ and a long OHC for an XJ why not just swap the info/display boards and display? They look to be the same from the outside and when I installed mine it looked to be removable.

?? Just thinking

Also with the rear drop down screen how hard was that to install, very cool and would be a good addition to mine.
Yes, you can swap the 97+ XJ electronics/display into the short ZJ sunroof console. It is a direct fit but you'll have to figure out how to mount the bracket to the XJ ceiling.

The overhead video screen isn't mine so I don't have any info on the install.

[BlueCuda]

Just got it fired up and working. Mine might have been a rare deal but it was plug and play from 98-97 or maybe I just misunderstood. Originally it didn't work and then when I started my jeep the cluster didn't work. Turns out one of my connectors shorted right when I plugged the console in. I ran out of but connectors and had to use a spade for one wire and this is what cuased the problem. After a little frustration I realized it was a fuse problem when the cluster didn't work. Thanks for all the info in the thread, now I just need to mount this bitch :D.

[kloker]

Hey, 2000XJSPORT, I just got one of these overhead consoles for my '97, came out of a '97 too. My XJ is a Sport. I clicked on your link posted in this thread to the how-to file you posted on savefiles.com, but it doesn't work, says file not found. I sure would like to have that information. Looking at my parts fiche I see I need a rear mounting bracket and two long screws for the mid-mounting the console, don't know about up front unless the visor screws hold it. Then also the wiring harness and the temp sensor. In case you don't see this, I'm also gonna PM you. Sure would like to have that file.

[JEEPZZ]

Hey, 2000XJSPORT, I just got one of these overhead consoles for my '97, came out of a '97 too. My XJ is a Sport. I clicked on your link posted in this thread to the how-to file you posted on savefiles.com, but it doesn't work, says file not found. I sure would like to have that information. Looking at my parts fiche I see I need a rear mounting bracket and two long screws for the mid-mounting the console, don't know about up front unless the visor screws hold it. Then also the wiring harness and the temp sensor. In case you don't see this, I'm also gonna PM you. Sure would like to have that file.
See post #18 of this thread on page 2. All of the info you need is right there.

[Tim_MN]

This link is for some additional wiring info for installing an OHC. I suggest you copy these wire diagrams and save them onto your hard drive.

http://www.jeepsunlimited.com/forums/showthread.php?t=883824


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One of my picture links seems to be lost for the head liner cutouts so here it is again.

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http://fototime.com/EB2BD0AF2175D97/standard.jpg

[Tim_MN]

Looking at the diagrams in this link - http://www.jeepsunlimited.com/forums/showthread.php?t=883824 - you will see the display module on the left side of the diagram. The input wires are each numbered 1 - 12. Here is how the wires/numbers correspond to the actual plug. Note the open locations and that there are no pins or wires in these positions.

Pin #1 is black wire. Pin #2 is pink wire. Pin #7 is yellow wire.


Larger size of pic below - http://fototime.com/AD4C77B30F4B960/orig.jpg

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http://fototime.com/AD4C77B30F4B960/standard.jpg


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[SgtPhox]

I will send the write up to you and let me know if you need any help. The mounting brack is OEM part number 55352518AB and it should not cost much. I live out in the western suburbs of Chicago in St. Charles. The pic was taken when I installed the console back in June.
Alex

Would you mind sending that to me aswell? danesargeant@gmail.com

Thanks!

[goalieman24]

I know this is old.

Does anyone have any of these write-ups saved? Everything here is no longer available.

[jeepcj/jeepxj]

I know this is old.

Does anyone have any of these write-ups saved? Everything here is no longer available.

2x

Thank you

:us:

[Tim_MN]

PM me a good email address, I have the needed info.

[JEEPZZ]

yes he does! ;)

[StevieRT]

Sorry to bring up an old thread but I am installing a 98 overhead console into my 98. All the write up links and most of the pictures seem to be dead. I have been searching but everything should be plug and play with me right? I will have to switch over the keyless remote deal but thats it right? The only thing I am worried about is cutting the headliner. I saw Tim's pictures but what are you guys using to cut your headliners? Thanks in advance.

[2000XJSPORT]

Sorry to bring up an old thread but I am installing a 98 overhead console into my 98. All the write up links and most of the pictures seem to be dead. I have been searching but everything should be plug and play with me right? I will have to switch over the keyless remote deal but thats it right? The only thing I am worried about is cutting the headliner. I saw Tim's pictures but what are you guys using to cut your headliners? Thanks in advance.

Yes it will be plug in and play. You will have to mount the bracket to hold up the console and I just used a box cutter to cut the liner. I can send you a copy of my writeup if that will help. Just send me another PM with your email.

[kastein]

yeah, a box cutter works fine. Get yourself a new blade though (so it cuts the fabric cleanly instead of pulling), and expect it to be a little dull afterwards, because it's semi-compressed fiberglas backing which tends to do a number on blades.

I found that it was easiest to get the pattern centered if I ran a piece of masking tape from the mounting holes for the center dome light / OHC bracket to the center of the cargo area dome light. This also allowed me to make marks for where to cut without worrying as much if I had measured too big a hole. Cutting the hole the right size is easiest if you bolt up the front of the OHC (using that long single screw to a plastic anchor, at least on pre-97) and then use that as alignment for cutting the back, just measure three or four times, only mark on the masking tape, and cut once. Always err on the side of cutting too small a hole, you can always expand it out a little if it doesn't quite fit.

[TheNerd]

Does anyone know what "Type" of connector is used for the wiring harness. I'd like to do a "bling" terminal connector mod for a harness into my '01, and I would like to know which "style" connector is used (options from the FSM:)
Molex?
Thomas & Betts?
Augat?
Something else... (am I barking up the wrong tree here?)

I am going to try to get myself the proper tool to remove the wires from the terminal without damage so I can swap my existing connector onto the donor harness. Thanks!

[kastein]

Which connector?

Also, I find that being very careful with my smallest flat blade jeweler's screwdriver, I can usually disassemble most connectors without damage.

A lot of connectors on the XJ (at least under the hood) are Delphi Weatherpack, but I am pretty sure most of the interior connectors aren't waterproofed at all.

[TheNerd]

I was specifically wondering about C301 (or the connection at the bottom of the A-Pillar): The ones in the photo on Page 2 posted by JeepZZ.

I did a bunch of googling on the connector types, and can't find anything useful (in fact, they all seem to be cylindrical connectors, not blades....so I don't know what to think).

I am sure that this is not a Weatherpack connector (that is about the only connector I can identify).

[TheNerd]

It turns out that I have a '99 OHC + wiring harness going into an '01 (the colors match, but the harness connectors don't quite). After reviewing the wiring diagrams, it appears as if both harness are wired identically. In looking at the photos posted by JeepZZ, it appears that the '99 wiring harness could potentially plug directly into the '01 receptacle. Can anyone confirm or deny this (i.e. can I just plug an unmodified '99 wiring harness into an '01)?

[Tim_MN]

.... it appears that the '99 wiring harness could potentially plug directly into the '01 receptacle. Can anyone confirm or deny this ?

The 99 and 01 Jeep plugs are incompatible. The wire colors match, so you can use any type of wire plug ( as a replacement for the Jeep plugs ) or you can just clip the plugs and hard wire the console.

[TheNerd]

Thanks for that. I would also like to mention (since I have not seen the info anywhere else), that the vanity mirror light plugs for the visors are also different (and incompatable) between a '99 and an '01. The '01 has a 2-wire connector, and the '99 has a smaller, single wire connector. Since all the wire colors are the same, it is not too much trouble to splice in the '01 connector into a '99 wire harness.

[srmitchell]

The easiest thing to do, is to reuse the connector in the harness already installed in your xj.

[TheNerd]

Rgr that! Just make sure you flag one of the 2 white/black wires and know where it goes (top or bottom) when you are disassembling the harness(es).

[tkdtim]

NM found what I was looking for.

[JJacobs]

I don't think I've seen this mentioned so here goes.. keep your body the frack out of the way when cutting the headliner. There's lots of fiberglass in the headliner and when cutting the holes you get a lot of fine 'glass dust all over yourself if not careful. By far the worst part of my install.

[kastein]

^^^ VERY true. My back itched for days because I got some down the back of my shirt.

Also, it turns out there is a front bracket for the OHC as well as a rear bracket... I did not realize this (at least, there is pre-97.) Mine mounted up fine with a 3" long #8 stainless steel screw from Home Depot and without the bracket, I just had to put a plastic anchor in the center hole in the crossmember behind the windshield - right between/behind the two holes for the IR receiver. I'm putting the bracket I got in when I pull it down to install my airhorn valve and pullchain properly in the sunglasses compartment.

[robert2008]

Just installed a 2000 OHC in my 2000 Classic and 2000XJSPORT was kind enough to E-Mail me the write up. It was a breeze, and for a gadget nut like me well worth the money and time I have in the installation. It looks great up there too!

[Sc00ter]

Just finished mine as well and I love it. The OHD came from a 97 and the wiring needed some modification to fit. I used a razor knife to cut the roofing material and had no problem with itchy insulation falling on me. One suggestion would be to remove as much of the dash as you can. You could probably maneuver most of the parts around, but I did it on a cold day and figured much of the plastic would not survive. The hardest part to remove was the dash end cap that contains the side vent. It's removal required the removal of the dash top which required...... instrument cluster bezel.....radio/heater bezel......glove box.......passenger airbag ( cover.......drivers side knee bolster (both the plastic and metal one). I also found that it helped to remove the right side roof trim all the way to the back lift gate. Again, on a nice warm day when the plastic was sort of pliable, most of this could be avoided. I would also advise marking the cuts with some painters tape before cutting and place the console over the tape to ensure full coverage. I got a little close to the edges and could have spared some material. The holes don't have to be overly huge. When drilling out the rivets for the old bracket, go verrrrrry slow as not to punch a hole in the roof. To resecure the new bracket, I used larger aluminum rivets (couldn't find steel in that size) combined with construction adhesive to guarantee no rattles.

HTH.

[kastein]

The 97+ brackets are riveted on? BTW, easy way to get rid of rivets is to use a dremel with an abrasive cutting wheel, just grind the head off and then push the stub into whatever cavity is behind the panel. Avoids issues with punching through and screwing up the roof like you said, and also means the $#@%^$#^ing thing does not come partially loose and then spin in the hole until you die of old age.

[Tim_MN]

97 OHC brackets use Phillips screws, 98-01 use rivets. Whatever will hold your bracket in place is fine, the console weighs very little.

Removing the 15mm bolt that holds the lower part of the dash support to the side of the body (located below the glove box opening) will allow you to flex the dash enough to slip the wire connectors between the dash plastic and the body. This method allows you to leave all the dash plastic in place.

[robert2008]

I couldn't find that 15mm bolt to save my life. I just cut the harness to make it easier to fish through the dash and spliced, soldered, taped, and used a plastic sleeve to keep it nice and neat. I had read about the white/black wires after the fact, and I guessed wrong the first go round. I knew I would though and didn't solder those two connections until I made sure everything was right. Why Chrysler used two wires the same color in one harness is beyond me, but at least it didn't do any damage when reversed.

I did get a little itching on my arms, but kept most of my body away from the falling debris. I made sure to vacuum really well after the installation was done.

[2000XJSPORT]

I couldn't find that 15mm bolt to save my life. I just cut the harness to make it easier to fish through the dash and spliced, soldered, taped, and used a plastic sleeve to keep it nice and neat. I had read about the white/black wires after the fact, and I guessed wrong the first go round. I knew I would though and didn't solder those two connections until I made sure everything was right. Why Chrysler used two wires the same color in one harness is beyond me, but at least it didn't do any damage when reversed.

I did get a little itching on my arms, but kept most of my body away from the falling debris. I made sure to vacuum really well after the installation was done.

2X don't know why there are two black and white. I just made a mental note of what pin it was in the original connector and then matched it up with the OHC Console. What happens when you get them wrong?

[robert2008]

2X don't know why there are two black and white. I just made a mental note of what pin it was in the original connector and then matched it up with the OHC Console. What happens when you get them wrong?

The lights work, but the computer doesn't. Righted them and all was well. I knew others had got it mixed up with no bad results from my searching, so I wasn't too worried about it.

[kastein]

The white/black wire is switched ignition power to the OHC compass/temp computer - I guess it is also something else, not sure what.

PS - discovered this while helping mini-man wire in the OHC I traded him; if you do not have power locks/windows AT LEAST you may not have the proper cross body wiring harness to support a plug-in/bolt-on OHC install. I think having RKE but no power windows may also qualify you for a plug-in/bolt-on install, but I'm not sure. Luckily I was already planning on running custom wiring for much of the OHC since I had built a custom wiring harness for it when intending to install it in mine, so I had a few hundred feet of good wire, a bucket of crimp terminals, and my DMM with me.

Swapping the cross body wiring harness is no party, it means pulling up the center console, pulling the carpet up, installing the new harness, and reversing the whole process. This info all applies to pre-97, I'm not sure how it jives with a 97+ install.

[robslxtasy]

ok just installed a 97 console into a 99 sport that had keyless entry. When plugging in the console the locks clicked so i assumed that meant it had power.. everything on the console works perfectly. Except now my keyless entry does not.. If I swap the board from the original light in the 99 to the 97 console will the keyless entry work again?

[Sc00ter]

Yeah, you have to swap out the boards for the rke to work. Simple task.

[robert2008]

Yeah, you have to swap out the boards for the rke to work. Simple task.

+1 To me the easiest way to pull that module out of the console it to drill a 3/8" hole where the screw sits up under the plastic. You'll see what I mean when you get in there. Start with 1/8" or smaller to not shred the plastic and work your way to 3/8" so you can get that little screw out of there. It looks like that peice may seperate, but with the fabric cover and all that I thought it was easier to just make your own "screw access port". It comes out of the dome light much easier.

[garr]

I know this is old.

Does anyone have any of these write-ups saved? Everything here is no longer available.

+1, I need the info also, I just picked up a console out of a 99XJ.
It came with a harness that the seller stated is good for use in 99-01 Xj's.

I would greatly appreciate the writ-ups before I start the install!

[natep1]

If you want to PM your email, I still have all the info from my old site. Install & wiring diagrams and such.

[kastein]

I can give you a place to host them (though I give no guarantee it'll stay around in the future, my site is somewhat in flux) - or you can put them somewhere and hopefully the FAQ/howto team here will convert them to PDF and put them in the writeup section!

:thumbup:

[natep1]

Thanks for the offer. I personally do not have the time to maintain a site or the desire at this point but I am happy to forward my files to share as long as I'm given proper credit for them.

[kastein]

I am almost certain the files put in the FAQ/writeup section are left in original form except for being proofread (maybe) and converted to PDF - I'd say to do that personally, NAXJA is probably more reliable than I am :D

[canajien]

I can give you a place to host them (though I give no guarantee it'll stay around in the future, my site is somewhat in flux) - or you can put them somewhere and hopefully the FAQ/howto team here will convert them to PDF and put them in the writeup section!

:thumbup:

I have my own server and I am willing to keep them the files up indefinitely if that helps.

[wolverine 00 xj]

I have an 00 xj sport, that came w/out OH console. I bought one from a 00 xj, and I got the harness with it. I also got the bracket from the dealership. I'm hoping that all I'll need to do is cut the liner, and just connect the harness. I've read through this thread carefully, and I think I'm correct on that. Is that the case? Thanks.

[Chasjr1]

I have an 00 xj sport, that came w/out OH console. I bought one from a 00 xj, and I got the harness with it. I also got the bracket from the dealership. I'm hoping that all I'll need to do is cut the liner, and just connect the harness. I've read through this thread carefully, and I think I'm correct on that. Is that the case? Thanks.

Also, if you have the remote unlock, remove the little board out of your existing light console and swap into the "new" overhead console. That way you won't have to get them reprogrammed.

Anybody interested in a OHC for 97-01? see my thread: http://www.naxja.org/forum/showthread.php?t=1028636

[danny Benavidez]

Also, if you have the remote unlock, remove the little board out of your existing light console and swap into the "new" overhead console. That way you won't have to get them reprogrammed.


I was told the unluck/lock code is saved in the jeep's computer not in the receiver inside the overhead light console. But maybe not ?

[JEEPZZ]

I was told the unluck/lock code is saved in the jeep's computer not in the receiver inside the overhead light console. But maybe not ?

Nope, it's in the receiver board. Just a couple of screws and your done.

[keep0njeepin0n]

I will send the write up to you and let me know if you need any help. The mounting brack is OEM part number 55352518AB and it should not cost much. I live out in the western suburbs of Chicago in St. Charles. The pic was taken when I installed the console back in June.
Alex

Anywhere else you can get the bracket? I need one for my 98 and I called the dealer this AM and they said it's listed as NS3, which means, no longer serviced by Chrysler and he showed no listing for a replacement!

[kastein]

Front bracket or rear?

Rear bracket is reportedly the same one used on the Chrysler minivans with an OHC. You may have to mount it "backwards" but it's the same stamping. I believe the same plastic frame is actually used on the minivans as the XJ, just the OHC module itself is different (can anyone verify?)

I'm not sure if the front bracket is compatible or not, take a look at it.

[Tim_MN]

Anywhere else you can get the bracket?

Try any one of the on-line parts department like http://www.moparonlineparts.com/. Console Bracket part number is 55352518

[JEEPZZ]

Try any one of the on-line parts department like http://www.moparonlineparts.com/. Console Bracket part number is 55352518
Nice! Just $5.30 and it still shows that it's available.

[keep0njeepin0n]

Nice! Just $5.30 and it still shows that it's available.

WOW!!! 10.99 for shipping....found one on jeepsareus.com for 14 and change after shipping!

[keep0njeepin0n]

Well, allthingsjeep.com refunded my money saying it was no longer available, so I ordered one from JeeperzCreeperz, and will be here tomorrow! Now, I have a question....since my 98XJ was not equipped with the OHC, will the temp sensor be their or do I need to buy one? If it is there, where should I look? Can anyone specifically tell me where it is located?

[Tim_MN]

The wires are there 97-01, you need to install the temp sensor. It is located in the middle of the front cross member, behind the bumper.

[kastein]

If you can't get an XJ temp sensor, you can yank one off a ZJ I believe. They're behind the grille on the ZJs and I tend to like the way they are built a bit more - the bracket is molded plastic and it's much easier to get to.

[keep0njeepin0n]

Ok so I got the rear bracket in...I can't believe I paid for this...is it even right?? It's a square piece of metal with 2 holes in it it's about 2 inches in square and it has the word rear with an arrow stamped in it and the holes are drilled diagonally to eachother...sound right??

[JEEPZZ]

It should look like this:

http://home.earthlink.net/~jeepzz/sitebuildercontent/sitebuilderpictures/dsc04476.jpg

[Tim_MN]

The part number is between the screw holes.

http://fototime.com/57EE12CFEA3503B/standard.jpg

[keep0njeepin0n]

Well that's definately not what mine looks like at ALL!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I called jeeperz creeperz today and they are researching it to find out the problem. Does anyone have one of these laying around they'll sell me? I don't wanna order another one online without seeing a picture to verify!

[keep0njeepin0n]

Help!!!! I am in the middle of installing my console...everything was going smoothly up until it was time to install the new harness. The donor harness is the same year as mine but the problem I'm haaving is feeding the 3 plugs down trough the a-pillar and behind the glove box! There has got to be something easier to do. I've already removed one bolt that holds the glove box frame to the body right next to the fuse box...are there others? Please somebody who's done this before help me! Thanks in advance!

[kastein]

remove the glovebox door, remove a few screws from the plastics and pull them back a bit. Remove the three or four screws along the top of the lower half of the dash along with any screws holding it on at the bottom edge and pull it back as well. You should be able to simply drop the cable straight down.

[Tim_MN]

...the problem I'm having is feeding the 3 plugs down trough the a-pillar and behind the glove box! ..... I've already removed one bolt that holds the glove box frame to the body right next to the fuse box.....

Grab the bottom of the dash and gently pull it toward the passenger seat. The bracket that the bolt goes through can then be slightly flexed to the right and wedged on the door frame. At this point you will have just enough room between the dash and the unibody to slip the wire plugs into place.

[keep0njeepin0n]

Grab the bottom of the dash and gently pull it toward the passenger seat. The bracket that the bolt goes through can then be slightly flexed to the right and wedged on the door frame. At this point you will have just enough room between the dash and the unibody to slip the wire plugs into place.

Ahhhh ok I will give that a shot tomorrow! I am losing daylight and getting tired! I spent wayyy too much time in the yard today and started on this project far too late in the day to finish...tomorrow is another day!!

[keep0njeepin0n]

Well that ain't happening lol! I pulled on the dash as hard as I possibly could and it wasn't anywhere near far enough to pry that bracket over onto the door frame! I'm no small guy either so it's like I'm weak! Any other suggestions other than pull all the plastic off?

[Tim_MN]

I use that method to pull consoles at the junkyard all the time. The dash bracket/bolt 1.5" above the duct tape in the pic. In the pic the bolt is still installed, you will need to completely remove the bolt and then pull on the dash.

If that doesn't work for you, remove the bolt in the picture and remove the top trim from the dash, and remove the upper dash mounting bolts at the base of the windshield.


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http://fototime.com/59F50E166488C07/standard.jpg

[keep0njeepin0n]

Well I finally got it...pulling on the dash just wasn't getting it for
me so I pulled the a-pillar trim completely out then loosened the end cap trim piece and that allowed more than enough room...getting the a-pillar trim back in place was a little tricky but a lot easier than trying to pry on the dash. Everything works great!

Alex, your directions you emailed me were VERY helpful but I am SO glad I did not remove my grill for the temp sensor...all I had to do was crawl underneath and there it was!

[keep0njeepin0n]

Ok, so I'm sure I'm not the only one out there who has cut just a little too much of the headliner. I mean it's barely noticeable and can be covered I'm sure. Anybody done the same and covered it with some sort of molding or something else? Let's see please!

BTW, from what I've read the dome light bracket is supposed to have rivets in it from 98-01 and in 97 they had it screwed in....well I guess I got lucky because I had screws in my 98. Good thing too because if I was dumb enough to cut too much headliner, I probably would have drilled straight through the damn roof too! haha!

[CherokeeGold]

i went back and picked up the main wiring harness for the console, but when i went to install it they still didn't match the harnesses in my car under the glovebox. should i go back to the junkyard (far away) and get the other ones and splice them in, or should i just cut the harness off the wiring i removed, splice together the wires that are the same color, and then regularly splice the other wires to the left over corresponding wires? i noticed there were about 3 left over on the new wiring harness that aren't in my car. anyone have any knowledge of these? thanks!

i wrote the colors down but don't have them here...i'll edit later or update in this thread, but "i believe there was a gray wire, a dark blue, and a blue with white or light gray stripe. i looked in my haynes manual but it stinks and doesn't list those specific ones. just mentions orange and black and the pink and yellow power wires for the overhead lighting. thanks for any help.

Did you ever figure out what the extra wires were for? I am especially stumped by the extra grey one.