Front D44 are rare here in my parts, at least for the ones that have the perches welded on instead of cast.. I found a full width but the only problem is that it has drum brakes (70-73' Ford, not sure) what Im looking to do is to take the nukles from a Grand Waggy with discs and install them on the full width D44.. Ive done the measurments and all and its a direct bolt on, my only concern is what is the spline count on the drum axle and is it worth it to use it for the front and a locker, with 5.13 gears? When I got to the junk yard they were getting ready to close and all I had time for was to do some quick measuring for the nukles, I am planniing to head back out there tomorrow if it doesnt rain...
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Front D44 Hi Pinion with drums
- Thread starter XTrmXJ
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JeffsJeep04
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- Dublin, GA
Should be 30 spline inners. You'll have to use the waggy (or GM) outer shafts though.
bj-666
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- Rhode Island
depending on what ya want to do for steering and bolt pattern this website has a good list of options for ya. http://77cj.littlekeylime.com/flatop_knucles.html
JeffsJeep04
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- Dublin, GA
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- Thornton, CO
It could be one of two 44s. It'll either have ball joint knuckles, or kingpin knuckles like some 60s. If it's the balljoints, it's as easy as swapping over the discs from whatever 44. If it's kinpin, then you will need to swap inner knuckles as well. If you have the year range right, it should be a ball joint axle.
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- Thornton, CO
XTrmXJ said:
You're good to go then. It's basically exactly the same as any other Ball Joint 44. You can swap Chevy/Jeep/Ford discs on with no problem. The wedges can be easily removed, and you can swap in any shaft so long as it works with whatever length you're after. Good luck..........:thumbup:
tealcherokee
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- CT
i found it easier to swap spindles and backing plates then the entire knuckle
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- Port Orchard, WA
tealcherokee said:
the ford knuckles for drum brakes wont work with the ford 5 stud calipers...
the drum brake knuckles dont have the notch for the caliper...
- Location
- Thornton, CO
XTrmXJ said:
91 Jeep Project said:
If you use the Ford stub with the waggy parts; you won't be able to get a clip on. But this has proven to be a non issue. If you can grab the waggy stubs, might as well. If you want to save the couple bucks, that works too.
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- Port Orchard, WA
XTrmXJ said:
19 spline
you want to match your spindle to your stub shaft in order to use the C-clip and seal your hub effectively...
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- Thornton, CO
XJ_ranger said:
91 Jeep Project said:
Come on Opie, you should know that by now, tsk, tsk............:laugh3:
brokexj
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- TIDEWATER!, VA
I just picked up a 74 F100 drum axle (HP44). They are 30 spline inners and 19 spline outers.
043500
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- Ocala, FL USA
I have one from a '75 F-1100. 30 inner 19 outer. I have a complete outers set from a '78 that I will be putting on.
Some folks posted the website link for Mr. N. He is the one with all the D-44 info...GREAT website. If memory serves the drum brake knuckles have to be swapped for disc knuckles (if you stay with ford parts) as the drum knuckles are 6 bolt and the disc are 5.
BUT from his website the axle shaft lengths/diameters/spline counts look to be the same in all the HP 44's for the '70's EXCEPT for the f-150 super cab and the F-250 axles.
Some folks posted the website link for Mr. N. He is the one with all the D-44 info...GREAT website. If memory serves the drum brake knuckles have to be swapped for disc knuckles (if you stay with ford parts) as the drum knuckles are 6 bolt and the disc are 5.
BUT from his website the axle shaft lengths/diameters/spline counts look to be the same in all the HP 44's for the '70's EXCEPT for the f-150 super cab and the F-250 axles.
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- Thornton, CO
043500 said:
This is incorrect. All Ford Spindles/knuckles are a 5 bolt hole pattern, and all Chevy/Jeep are 6. The drum brake knuckles have to be changed out, as already mentioned by Opie, because they do not have a notch in them for the disc calipers.
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- Port Orchard, WA
the older ford stuff (non-disk brake and old closed knuckle) is 6 stud...91 Jeep Project said: