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Meeks
January 12th, 2006, 07:47
What is the best long arm kit out there? I have a 6.5" lift on my Jeep, and looking to make it an even 8" in the near future. I need a long arm kit, due to the fact.. that.. well, I think it will be required. I have been looking at Rubicon Express long arms, Skyjacker.. and Rusty's Offroad. I have a rustys lift kit, so I am leaning towards them.. but I also want your opinions here.. since I do value you're guys experience.
So thanks in advance, and all you people who are going to tell me to use the search button. I am at work, and don't have time to shuffle through the billions of random results I got... ;)
littlebluexj
January 12th, 2006, 07:54
Clayton IMO,
But TNT's is also very nice.
Search for long arms and you will find lots of info and opinons.
But i love claytons kit
mack
January 12th, 2006, 08:03
good luck on not getting roasted!
anyway, i'll stick with TnT..:wave:
Badcop
January 12th, 2006, 08:06
Rock Krawler 3 link
http://pics.montypics.com/badcop-02/2005-10-25/1130272786_2005_10_09336.jpg
http://pics.montypics.com/badcop-02/2005-03-20/1111377818_dscf0491.jpg
Blazair
January 12th, 2006, 08:13
I run a Skyjacker 6" Rockready, and am very happy with it. I also like the Full-Traction long arm kit.
Meeks
January 12th, 2006, 08:59
So.. I got a lot of options, but... why do you like them so much? And are their any you didn't like? Or were dissapointed with?
Badcop
January 12th, 2006, 09:08
So.. I got a lot of options, but... why do you like them so much? And are their any you didn't like? Or were dissapointed with?
RK is guarenteed for life, its made from solid stock, joints are cheap when they ned to be replaced, easy to install, cheap.
Meeks
January 12th, 2006, 09:10
Are you biased at all... ? ;)
Have you every used any other systems? I am kind of biased towards Rusty's since thats where I got my lift. Will the two kits interfer with each other?
Roxtar
January 12th, 2006, 09:12
Rock Krawler 3 link
http://pics.montypics.com/badcop-02/2005-10-25/1130272786_2005_10_09336.jpg
http://pics.montypics.com/badcop-02/2005-03-20/1111377818_dscf0491.jpg
2X
Go to their site, click on "Jeep Products" and then go to "Long Arm Tech"
Plenty of good info.
http://rockkrawler.com/
cal
January 12th, 2006, 09:13
TNT Y-link.
http://www.tntcustoms.com/webV3/xjylink.asp
It's a nice setup. Well built, gives you very good clearance for a long arm setup. Comes with a good cross member, the entire system is very well thought out and well built.
Badcop
January 12th, 2006, 09:23
Are you biased at all... ? ;)
Have you every used any other systems? I am kind of biased towards Rusty's since thats where I got my lift. Will the two kits interfer with each other?
Yes and no, I have had the RE version on my XJ and my TJ, I prefer the mechanics of the non radious arm design and think it works better for articulation.
Skullver
January 12th, 2006, 09:24
I just ordered Full-Traction 6" long arm, not a radius arm set-up but a long arm 4-link. Will take pics when it arrives and I have time to install.
Roostertail
January 12th, 2006, 09:33
RK is guarenteed for life, its made from solid stock, joints are cheap when they ned to be replaced, easy to install, cheap.
Claytons arms are also guaranteed for life, but it is of no concern unless your xj gets run over by a bulldozer or falls off a 90 foot cliff cause they ain't gonna bend.
Badcop
January 12th, 2006, 09:56
Claytons arms are also guaranteed for life, but it is of no concern unless your xj gets run over by a bulldozer or falls off a 90 foot cliff cause they ain't gonna bend.
true dat!
jrsxj98
January 12th, 2006, 10:10
Gots to go with the boys from T&T Customs......rock solid.
MooseXJ
January 12th, 2006, 10:16
Claytons arms are also guaranteed for life, but it is of no concern unless your xj gets run over by a bulldozer or falls off a 90 foot cliff cause they ain't gonna bend.
my claytons are great, i have never owned anything else, well teraflex gen.2 on my ol tj, but thats like comparing a corvette to a cavalier.
Clayton way to go!
VegasAnthony
January 12th, 2006, 11:44
I run a Skyjacker 6" Rockready, and am very happy with it. I also like the Full-Traction long arm kit.
WOW....... no offense but you are about the only person Ive ever heard that actually would recommend Skyjacker
RWKHausSupply
January 12th, 2006, 11:52
WOW....... no offense but you are about the only person Ive ever heard that actually would recommend Skyjacker
Well thier High end stuff like the rockready kits are actually very nice IF you can afford them.. For a TJ they come with coil-overs from King (or well used to).
cal
January 12th, 2006, 12:01
Well thier High end stuff like the rockready kits are actually very nice IF you can afford them..
That's exactly it too. I looked at a couple of skyjacker setups before i went with RE.. but it would have been more than double the money, and most of the vendors I found had attitudes I didnt want to deal with.
JeepFreak21
January 12th, 2006, 12:07
So thanks in advance, and all you people who are going to tell me to use the search button. I am at work, and don't have time to shuffle through the billions of random results I got... ;)
Well, thanks for taking the time to add one more to the billions of threads on this topic.
Billy
Badcop
January 12th, 2006, 13:08
I run a Skyjacker 6" Rockready, and am very happy with it. I also like the Full-Traction long arm kit.
I just sold a rig with that same kit. And after driving it and trying to wheel it, I discovered 1 thing about those who say they like it...
They have never driven a rig with clayton, RK, full trac, TT or any other "True" Long Arm setup.
That skycrapper is the most overpriced overrated POS I have ever been associated with, it rides like ass, doesnt flex and is noisy as hell!
Capt. Nemo
January 12th, 2006, 13:47
Well, I think what long arm kit to go with comes down to what you're going to do with it, your fab skills (welding being the main thing), and your wallet.
I've been wheeling the Full Traction kit for almost two years. I like it, but the loss of ground clearance where the LCA's mount was too much. It rides great on the street and performs decently off road.
My TnT front stuff just arrived a couple of days ago, and all I can say is BEEF. Yes, the FT stuff is beefy, but the skid plate from TnT is hands down the beefiest skid I've seen.
If you are knowledgeable enough, mixing and matching your suspension components is probably the best way to go.
Personally, I wouldn't touch the RK stuff. It has been pushed alot around here lately, which is unfortunate since there is so much better stuff out there. Yes it's cheap, yes the arms are solid (can you say "unnecessary weight"), but there are still too many things against it for me to pass up mentioning to look further.
littlebluexj
January 12th, 2006, 13:53
I just said Clayton because I have installed one and wheeled it but I just finished A custom Wagoner Machine Shop LA kit and it was perfect.
but if you are looking for a name brand and not custom go with Clayton.
http://www.wagonermachine.com
http://www.claytonoffroad.com/
for WMS long arms you need to call them and talk to Casy.He will help you with measuments.
Jeffro600
January 12th, 2006, 13:54
TNT....no contest. Their bent Y-link design is second to none, is relatively inexpensive considering the quality and what your getting and works EXTREMELY well.
DirtyMJ
January 12th, 2006, 16:45
Rusty's, don't buy. I've got one. Poor quality and design.
To do it over, I'd build my own. Radius arm setups aren't exactly rocket science.
IndyXJ
January 12th, 2006, 19:27
http://www.itsajeep.org/vBulletin/gallery/files/2/1/XJFullTraction6inlift.jpg
Here's my lift on the floor of my garage circa spring of 04, lol!
6" Full Traction
Jeepdogrob
January 12th, 2006, 20:44
Rusty's, don't buy. I've got one. Poor quality and design.
To do it over, I'd build my own. Radius arm setups aren't exactly rocket science.
Can I ask why you say Rusty's is poor design? I am just interested in your input. I am running Rusty's 6.5" LA and so far it is great and wheels awesome. No signs of poor design and you simply cannot beat the customer service. I have seen old problems with Rusty's products but nothing he hasnt fixed or wasnt willing to replace for the customer. Also, manufacturing problems are not unique to Rusty's.
wvredxj
January 12th, 2006, 20:57
i run a clayton, and am very pleased, they arent cheap tho.
GirlScout1
January 12th, 2006, 21:00
I don't think Rusty's is a poor design. I think it is an on par design with all other radius designs. On the other hand, what I DO think is poor on Rusty's is the quality. It is way to hit or miss with how their quality and their decision to use OEM style bushings is dumb. I blew them out doing DD stuff.
I run an RK set up and like it. If I hadn't gone with RK it would have been Claytons. The RK does transfer some vibes since it is all hard joints but no still less then when I was running short arms. Hey, it is a lifted jeep!
sidriptide
January 12th, 2006, 21:37
i will suggest Clayton if you are looking for the strongest, most abuse-proven kit on the market.
HOWEVER, if you want this kit for a DD that will do weekend wheeling you can probably get by with a cheaper less beefy kit.
Clayton's kit was designed to withstand his own heavy foot. i can say first hand that he is insane behind the wheel! he wheels with us alot and if you want something you wont have to worry about hurting this is the kit for you. and if you break any of his stuff he will warranty it.
DirtyMJ
January 12th, 2006, 23:25
Regarding the Rusty's kit -
The 'design' flaw, as I see it, is the fact that they didn't recess the arms into the crossmemeber, which the realistically could have without issue. They're long enough that it wouldn't affect the angles in any substantial amount. Also, the system of bolting brackets and plates to the unibody leaves a little to be desired IMHO, although it is fairly typical setup.
Quality is also a huge issue. A friend of mine looked at the welds and said "Did they do these AFTER they powdercoated?". Yes, they really are that porous. The powdercoat is also sub par, and it seems they didn't prep the metal for it at all. This doesn't bother me too much, other than you are paying for it. Included hardware also leaves me wondering somewhat, as the arms are held to the crossmember by 2 (one on each side) Gr5 9/16th (I think) bolts. In a radius arm setup that bothers me, as you're only really got three links, and two of them are held by that! Could it hurt them that much to spend the $.30 extra to use Gr8 hardware? Oh yeah, one of the brackets that had 2 45 degree angles on it, had 2 47s. Wouldn't ever line up right.
Customer service wasn't bad. We had an accent barrier, which made things touchy, and ment I had to ship back most of the kit (sent me short arm version). But they delt with it. However, they ship UPS, which I will NEVER do again. God, they sucked.
There was some other things that bothered me with it, but I've forgotten them. I've been running on fewer than 3 hours sleep each night this week. Oh, they didn't mention that the peugeot wasn't exactly going to work with their crossmember (w/e, I can drill holes). The instructions really sucked. Could it kill them to have a couple pictures? It's not exactly compatible with an MJ (you can make it work though).
Mr.OverKill
January 13th, 2006, 00:03
mine:laugh3:
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