NEED HELP ASAP Jeep is in pieces and i gotta go to work tomorrow

[91XJ]

I just got a noslip locker from a guy on a forum,, it is for a d-44 limited slip,,(which i thought i had) turns out that i dont have a d-44,,,but i cant find what the hell axle i have!
the dana website sucks,,
and the powertrax website has a axle identification chart,., and mine is not on there,,, - none of them match,, HERE (http://powertrax.com/diff.htm) is the id chart

Mine has 12 holes and doesnt match any of the patterns shown on the chart. the only acles with 12 holes on the chart are the chrysler 9.25 and the gm 8.875.

I bought this axle a few years ago, I was told it was a d-44 metric ton axle.. I believed them because it was way bigger than my 35 and it bolted right up,, none of the perches or shock mounts have been relocated,, so its a stock axle.

If anyone needs to know the pattern i have i can take a pic of the cover real quik - just let me know.

PLEASE HELP!!

[offroadman83]

need a pic of the cover,

[Georgia Mike]

Probably a Chrysler 8.25". Good,stout axle compared to the Dana 35,but it's still no 44. Is the center section rounded with a flat bottom? If so,that's it!

On a side note,you didn't mention which you had,an XJ or MJ? The MJ's came with an AMC 20 rear for one year only ('86),in which I just discovered this info yesterday. It will be a large,round center section. Good axle,too. Large ring & pinion and stout axle tubes compared to the D-35. I hope you didn't pay too awfully much for either of these axles;) as they aren't worth as much as the 44.

[RCP Phx]

Sorry the 8.25 only has ten bolts.I dont know where you got your Jeep from,but it sounds like a model 20 or GM 12bolt!!

[91XJ]

Im sorry - i found out that it is a 44,, i was counting the holes on the diff.. housing not the cover - i should of just counted the bolts - duh problem is the instructions say to locate and remove the pinion retainer bolt - I dont have one,,, I have c-clips,, I figure im screwed with this noslip i just got - i cant find an install that matches my diff.. wtf? lol
http://www.deltaforcers.com/sigs/pattern.jpg

[Lucas]

I thought C clips held the axle in, as in they are oriented side to side, not top to bottom on the pin. Perhaps those clips have something to do with the LSD?

If you can't get everything together by tomorrow morning, bolt the cover back up, drop your rear DS, plug up your Tcase output and drive in 4 hi for the day.

[RCP Phx]

The trunnion pin is held in by a small roll pin that is mounted parallel to the axles.

[91XJ]

hey lucas - im just about ready to intall those coils i got from you - i plasti-dipped them yellow - will post picts soon,

as for the diff. the c=clips are on the pinion shaft - i had none on the axles - axles are removed allready the dang instructions say nuthing about the c-clips - for an open or limited - Im about to say "powertrax intructions suck" "1.5 hours to install" BULLSH!T - lol

still takeing comments on this one - - - - thanks

[Lupine]

No slip applications are different if you have a limited slip vs. an open case. You have a Dana 44, but it looks to have some sort of limited slip in it, most likely a Trac-Lock. There is a NoSlip made for this axle, but you likely don't have it.

Button her back up and head to work. Resell the NoSlip and buy the proper one for your application.

CRASH

[91XJ]

Originally posted by RCP Phx
The trunnion pin is held in by a small roll pin that is mounted parallel to the axles.

trunnion? - pinion i assume - but the instructions say that carrier removal is not nessesary.. I guess ill have to take the damn thing out

[91XJ]

my first post states that it is for a d-44 limited slip - you know of an install that shows c-clips?
noslip part number 9204443020

[RCP Phx]

THe trunnion pin is what holds the spider gears in.The roll pin will be on on end of the trunion pin and parallel to the axles.

[Beezil]

as for the diff. the c=clips are on the pinion shaft


Dude, you are worrying me......

[RCP Phx]

Youve got the right part#!!!!!!!!!

[RCP Phx]

Hopefully this works!The 44 Trac-lok does use "snap-rings" to hold the trunnion pin in!

"I learned something today"

http://www2.dana.com/temp/84830719.gif

[91XJ]

holy sh!t - there is a trac-loc and a trac-lok???
what fawkin a$$holes for doing such a dumb a$$ thing ( a "c" or a "k") THATS BUNK

[91XJ]

RCP PHX,,, could you get that exploded view back of the d-44 - thats the only pic i seen of it---
as for the no slip,, I bought an open d44 carrier on ebay for 15 bucks,, I am going to send this LSD no slip to 4 wheelers and they will swap me for an open no slip.
PowerTrax had no clue of my axle,,,lol
thanks

[RCP Phx]

Originally posted by 91XJ
RCP PHX,,, could you get that exploded view back of the d-44 - thats the only pic i seen of it---
as for the no slip,, I bought an open d44 carrier on ebay for 15 bucks,, I am going to send this LSD no slip to 4 wheelers and they will swap me for an open no slip.
PowerTrax had no clue of my axle,,,lol
thanks





http://www2.dana.com/temp/67477937.gif

[91XJ]

The image is not showing up,, Maybe you could copy it and send me it thru email,,91XJ (blind@deltaforcers.com)

thanks man

[Eagle]

Originally posted by 91XJ
holy sh!t - there is a trac-loc and a trac-lok???
what fawkin a$$holes for doing such a dumb a$$ thing ( a "c" or a "k") THATS BUNK

Calm down, Mate.

"Trac-Loc" is not the correct spelling. "Trac-Lok" is the correct spelling. There was only one factory LSD offered for the Dana 44.

[91XJ]

Originally posted by Eagle
Calm down, Mate.

"Trac-Loc" is not the correct spelling. "Trac-Lok" is the correct spelling. There was only one factory LSD offered for the Dana 44.

wait till i post this diagram that RCP is going to send me,, then lets see what you say.
but thanks for your "help"?

[Eagle]

I will still say that "Trac-Loc" is an incorrect spelling and that the only factory offered LSD for the Jeep Dana 44 was spelled "Trac-Lok." That's the way RCP Phx spelled it and that's the way it is spelled in the Factory Service Manual.

Which brings me to suggesting that you really should try to get your hands on a FSM if at all possible. The early FSMs included the Dana 44 axle and the Trac-Lok unit. Not too long ago someone had a link to an '88 FSM that was available on-line for download. If it's still up and someone has the link, that might be just what you need.

[RCP Phx]

Try this!!
Dana webpage (http://www2.dana.com/expert/wc.dll?DSD~dedrawing~00002386~60532513~)

[91XJ]

hey thanks RCP,,since you went ahead and emailed it to me I will post it here,,,I got so upset because the spelling pissed me off,,if they are going to do that kind of thing, they should at least make the difference known,,and I personally would name the 'snap ring style' "Trac loc" in referencing the c "c" with snap rings(c-clips)
but noooooooooooooooo lol they do it bassackwards.

I am all calmed down in this matter:angel:

I Thank you again RCP phx for the time you spent looking into that for me,, much appreciated! :worship:
http://www.deltaforcers.com/sigs/d44.gif

[91XJ]

Youre not talking sma'k' now are you eagle.

All I have for manauls is the chiltons (sucks) and haynes or hayes, i forget the spelling - and its a little better.
I will try to find a FSM,,,ltr

[RCP Phx]

#1 Jeep didnt make the axle,thats why I love the "Dana" site(you should see Timken's).#2 Alot of times products wererepresented as different things in different vehicles(could be a XJ vs. Eagle thing)!

[GTsenre]

I know this is a pretty old post, but I am finding the same problem. I have the so-called c-clips type things as well. Will the powertrax for trac lok work with this type of axle? If so, how????

[91XJ]

I know this is a pretty old post, but I am finding the same problem. I have the so-called c-clips type things as well. Will the powertrax for trac lok work with this type of axle? If so, how????
Hey Bro,, there is no "lunch box" locker for this carrier,, I had to buy an open carrier and send the Limited slip No-Slip to 4wheelers and they inpected it, charged me 25 bucks plus shipping and sent me a No-Slip for an open carrier.
I found the open D44 carrier on E-bay for 15 bucks,, it was from a 2002 tj D44.
can throw away the Limited slop carrier,, not worth crap.

[jb98xj]

I'm really confused now, how can they be selling one that is clearly labeled for a trac lok carrier!!??? Also, for me the problem is I didn't but it "brand new", I got it from the jeeps unlimited forum. Guess I need to make some phone calls.


Hey Bro,, there is no "lunch box" locker for this carrier,, I had to buy an open carrier and send the Limited slip No-Slip to 4wheelers and they inpected it, charged me 25 bucks plus shipping and sent me a No-Slip for an open carrier.
I found the open D44 carrier on E-bay for 15 bucks,, it was from a 2002 tj D44.
can throw away the Limited slop carrier,, not worth crap.