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BSD
November 30th, 2005, 16:57
I just finished taking off my CPS on my 89 XJ. Like the toy box your child gets at Christmas that says "some assembly required." Like Bush senior's "Read my lips, no new taxes." Like my wife telling me "I will be just a minute" as I wait in the living room. The folks who wrote that getting to the bolts on the CPS was "a pain in the neck" are guilty of an inability to be entirely honest.
Comperatively speaking, "a pain in the neck" is watching my wife birth our youngest son who came into the world at 12 lb.s 8 oz. The removing of the bolts on the CPS is something that should be reserved for those condemned to the deepest reaches of Dante's Hell.
It looked like a socket extension orgy under the Jeep. It sounded like a meeting of drunk sailors with Turret's syndrom. It felt like I had just invented a new exercise that made Pilates and Yoga look tame.
Here is the kicker. I only took it out. I think that might have been the easy part!
BSD

XJ_ranger
November 30th, 2005, 17:00
I only took it out. I think that might have been the easy part!
BSD

dont drop the bolts into the bellhousing... did that once...



nice poem by the way...



I didnt find it all that bad... took me 10 minutes to take out with a 3' extension and a swivel..

Gil BullyKatz
November 30th, 2005, 17:05
Don't worry...

You'll get better at it...

:D

Ranger's right tho...

Once you've done it a few times in a year...

You can do it in the dark!

I stuff a rag in the bellhousing aperture to keep the bolts from falling in there.

btw...

carry a spare!

5-90
November 30th, 2005, 17:21
Check around, and try to find my post with a picture on how to notch the CPS bracket. Why? You won't have to pull the bolts out anymore - just loosen them a bit.

I know you open the lower hole directly toward the end of the bracket, and the upper hole straight "down" (as mounted,) but I don't have a pic handy to show you. I know I posted it here, so that's half the trouble gone to.

How do you notch the bracket? With a Dremel and a cut-off wheel.

How long does it take to change "notched" CPS units? About 10 minutes. The only "extra" thing you'll need is a long, heavy something (I have an 18" brass rod for this) that you can rest on the back of the sensor while you fiddle with tightening the bolts underneath.

5-90

old_man
November 30th, 2005, 17:23
Don't worry, it can get worse :wave:

GSequoia
November 30th, 2005, 17:48
I remember the first time I did a CPS... Six extra joints in my arm and fingers would've been rockin'.

Now I just get it from underneth with about 26" of extension and a wobble.

Lawn Cher'
November 30th, 2005, 17:59
I haven't yet had the pleasure.

Gil BullyKatz
November 30th, 2005, 18:12
I haven't yet had the pleasure.


SHAZAMM!!!


You have now attracted the attention of the Ghost in the Machine.

Same one that played with your lighting...

Grizzley
November 30th, 2005, 18:32
I haven't yet had the pleasure.


You're doomed Mark. Have fun!

RichP
November 30th, 2005, 18:47
I haven't yet had the pleasure.

OH BOY, you're in for it now.... just like holding on to a steel flag pole in a lightning storm....

Lawn Cher'
November 30th, 2005, 18:50
My people would call that a kineahora. I shoulda known betta.

Such a chochem I am, a real mayven. Enough with this mishegas.

Oy vey, I'll have to fix this ongepatcheket Jeep, nothing but tsures I get from it... I need this chazeray like a hole in the head... Nisht do gedachet!

Geepfreak
November 30th, 2005, 18:59
Mark, my CPS in the 89 needs to be changed, can I fly you out to do it?

Lawn Cher'
November 30th, 2005, 19:02
Mark, my CPS in the 89 needs to be changed, can I fly you out to do it?

If you don't mind my learning curve, sure!

Geepfreak
November 30th, 2005, 19:05
If you don't mind my learning curve, sure!


No worries.. Got the couch moved into the shop, and keeping at a nice 65 Deg. in there.... Ha, even got the water working to the toilet, so you have all the time you need..

XJ_ranger
November 30th, 2005, 19:05
Mark, my CPS in the 89 needs to be changed, can I fly you out to do it?

might be able to con me into driving to Kansas...

Geepfreak
November 30th, 2005, 19:11
might be able to con me into driving to Kansas...

I'm not in Kansas tho....?

SeanP
November 30th, 2005, 19:27
try pulling the distributor from a 5.2/5.9 grand and then get back to me (after you break the oil pressure sending unit off). The CPS is a cakewalk in comparison.

SeanP

carmike692000
November 30th, 2005, 20:05
I'm not in Kansas tho....?

He's gonna need a long extension then! :D

Yucca-Man
December 1st, 2005, 00:24
Once you've done it a few times in a year...

You can do it in the dark!Well of course you can do it in the dark - you can't see the friggin' thing anyway so it's all done by feel. (We are still talking about the CPS, right?)

If we are, I find that dropping the t-case crossmember a few inches makes it MUCH easier to actually access the CPS.

Jim

Dirk Pitt
December 1st, 2005, 04:48
I just reached in from the top down under the intake manifold.

I had it off and back on in less than 10 minutes with a box end wrench.

Puzzies!

:wave:

Matthew Currie
December 1st, 2005, 07:31
Putting that thing back is a little harder than getting it off. Two hints: first make sure that you have either a magnetic insert in your socket, or some other means (even a little piece of paper jammed in it, putty, chewing gum, or whatever) to keep the bolt in the socket; second, make sure you use the little plastic dust shield that should have come with the new CPS. It snaps into the bell housing, and when installed, it will hold the CPS more or less in place while you use your other three hands to get the first bolt in.

Lawn Cher'
December 1st, 2005, 12:24
No worries.. Got the couch moved into the shop, and keeping at a nice 65 Deg. in there.... Ha, even got the water working to the toilet, so you have all the time you need..

Sounds comfy... it'll be perfect in February.

BSD
December 1st, 2005, 13:56
Well,I just got through putting it back in and it took all of about 10 minutes. Heeded the advice and used some chewing gum to hold the bolt in the socket. I can only think of three reasons why it went so easy putting it in. First, I guess taking it out taught me about what extension / swivel combination worked as well as in what unnatural way I must twist my arms to get the bolts out . in. Probably not. I think instead I cussed the part so sufficiently yesterady that its anger qouta had been met and had no need to continue resisting OR the Heep is lulling me into a false confidence. Patiently waiting to extract the full measure of my anger at the most inopportune time and place!
BSD

lost1
December 1st, 2005, 16:03
that last part is probably a good guess.