The Johnson Valley Raffle Thread

[Captain Ron]

Feeling Lucky? Good! Because here's what we have so far:


The SoCal Chapter, and the Sierra Chapter are providing Saftey Seal kits, A ProComp strap or two, and some other goodies.

BrettM is donating an AW-4 shift controller.

C-ROK has a goodie to be announced at raffle time.

Jes is bringing a set of his steel lower panel guards.

Ryan Brown (Rigwerks) is donating a set of Alloy USA 30 spline CroMo Dana 44 shafts.

FarmerMatt is bringing a set of tailight boxes. There might be another goodie he's well known for too, but you'll just have to be there to find out.

Dan Turner (Loose Nuts) is donating one of his front winch bumpers.

Someone need a winch? You have a shot at a Mile Marker and a Warn.


Some good stuff here folks, and this is just what we have now. So here's your chance to win some nice equipment while at the same time contributing to very worthy causes in our immediate area, and support the NAXJA California Chapters. You do not need to be a member of NAXJA to participate in the raffle.

--ron

PS: Warning! I'll be forwarding the list of people that don't buy lots of tickets to Santa Claus this year. :D

[BrettM]

Ryan Brown (Rigwerks) is donating a set of Alloy USA 30 spline CroMo Dana 44 shafts.


these are all mine!

I hope he brings them out there, I might need them :D (80+ Waggy ;) )

[rpraterxj]

Awesome! When are tickets going to be available?

Thanks,

[Goatman]

Awesome! When are tickets going to be available?

Thanks,


Saturday Night Dinner and Raffle


Saturday evening a dinner of burgers and brauts will be provided to all participants. Cost of dinner will be covered by your donation. After dinner there will be a raffle, with proceeds going to Friends of Panamint Valley and the SoCal Chapter of NAXJA. Friends of Panamint Valley is the lead organization in the fight to reopen Surprise Canyon. Raffle tickets will be available onsite.

Dinner around 6:30 pm
Raffle around 7:30 pm

[GSequoia]

Damn; guess I'm gonna hve to go to the ATM now.

[Captain Ron]

Awesome! When are tickets going to be available?

Thanks,

Tickets will go on sale Saturday morning, onsite. Tickets will be available onsite only, and winners or their representative must be present to claim prizes.

--ron

[David Taylor]

Tickets will go on sale Saturday morning, onsite. Tickets will be available onsite only, and winners or their representative must be present to claim prizes.

--ron

I'm liking the odd's

[rpraterxj]

I'm liking the odd's

X2

Thanks to those that are donating. I hope I win it all.... :laugh3:

Anybody wanna give away a set of gears and lockers?... :looney:

[Goatman]

I'll have the T-shirts out to distribute as folks are rolling in Friday evening, so we'll start selling raffle tickets then.

Looks like this is going to be a real nice raffle. :)

[Jes]

Another prize!

James from www.jeepersandcreepers.com donated Dana30 and Dana44 diff rings for fabbing your own diff covers/guards and a new(unreleased product) jeepersandcreepers Dana44 diff guard. :thumbup:

[Captain Ron]

We are adding another item from Randy's Ring and Pinion. Thanks go out to Randy's and James of Jeepersandcreepers.

Word seems to be getting out to the world about this event. There have been some very interesting inquiries of late...

--ron

[Capt. Nemo]

Ticket cost? Multiple purchase discount incentives? :)

Oh, and I'll "donate" a Gription DVD. I won two at the last raffle I was at and only opened one. Pretty good DVD.

[sintax]

Multiple purchase incentives? :)

Incentives are the more you buy, the better your odds are of winning =P

[Bryan C.]

2 more prizes to add to the list. I was able to talk my tool dealers into some cool prizes.

Snap-on Tool bag donated by Robert Lewis, my snap on tools dealer.

Mini angle head die grinder and cut off tool set. Comes with 2 die grinders, and assorted stones and wheels in a plastic case. Donated by Mike Kidd, my Mac Tools distributor.

[Jes]

Cool! :thumbup:

[Bent]

Is this going to be just like the Big Bear raffle?




That one seemed to go rather well.

[rpraterxj]

Is this going to be just like the Big Bear raffle?




That one seemed to go rather well.

It went REALLY well for a few people, and not so well for some of us others .... :laugh3:

I look forward to meeting everyone and hopefully winning a prize or two this time....

[GSequoia]

Is this going to be just like the Big Bear raffle?




That one seemed to go rather well.


NO! I won't be passing up any winnings!

(That probably means I won't win jack)

[karstic]

Tickets will go on sale Saturday morning, onsite. Tickets will be available onsite only, and winners or their representative must be present to claim prizes.

--ron

Seeing that I can't make this fine event, anyone care to be my representative and purchase $20 worth of tickets for me?

[JohnX]

Seeing that I can't make this fine event, anyone care to be my representative and purchase $20 worth of tickets for me?

Sure thing...but I doubt you'll win:D

[Capt. Nemo]

I remember reading somewhere that you MUST BE PRESENT to win... or maybe I'm just imagining things and trying to increase my odds :)

[JohnX]

I remember reading somewhere that you MUST BE PRESENT to win... or maybe I'm just imagining things and trying to increase my odds :)
I read that too...but I'll still spend his twenty on ticket...for me:)

[Bent]

... or maybe I'm just imagining things...

I understand.

[karstic]

Tickets will go on sale Saturday morning, onsite. Tickets will be available onsite only, and winners or their representative must be present to claim prizes.

[color=navy]--ron

You guys must be illiterate or something...

[JohnX]

You guys must be illiterate or something...

Wiseguy huh? Okay...If you're gonna actually read...then I guess someone can buy you tickets. :D

[karstic]

Wiseguy huh? Okay...If you're gonna actually read...then I guess someone can buy you tickets. :D

Yeah you guys are afraid I'm gonna clean house.

I hope this becomes an annual event cause I already told the wife, "No cruises next Thanksgiving!!!

[Capt. Nemo]

I understand.

:)

[johnnyc]

Seeing that I can't make this fine event, anyone care to be my representative and purchase $20 worth of tickets for me?
Hey Stephan,

I'm getting $20 worth of tickets for Remi. I can get yours too. Think about it...would you trust anybody else? :laugh3:

[JohnX]

I propose that anyone buying tickets for someone else should label those tickets accordingly and in the presence of other members before the drawings....not that I don't trust you guys;)

[karstic]

I trust Johnny

[karstic]

Saturday Night Dinner and Raffle


Saturday evening a dinner of burgers and brauts will be provided to all participants. Cost of dinner will be covered by your donation. After dinner there will be a raffle, with proceeds going to Friends of Panamint Valley and the SoCal Chapter of NAXJA. Friends of Panamint Valley is the lead organization in the fight to reopen Surprise Canyon. Raffle tickets will be available onsite.

Dinner around 6:30 pm
Raffle around 7:30 pm

A recent article about Surprise Canyon. Looks like we got a tough fight ahead. buy plenty of raffle tickets.

http://www.lasvegassun.com/sunbin/stories/sun/2005/nov/14/519659433.html

[Goatman]

A recent article about Surprise Canyon. Looks like we got a tough fight ahead. buy plenty of raffle tickets.

http://www.lasvegassun.com/sunbin/stories/sun/2005/nov/14/519659433.html

It's a good read, to find out one side of it.....unfortunately. The thing that none of them ever want to talk about is the fact that the canyon was a road until about 1982. The canyon isn't recuperating from 4x4 use, it's going back totally natural after the dirt, gravel and rocks of a road bed were washed away in a big flash flood. All the stuff they say is growing back was already growing back, and we did nothing to hinder that, other than trimming tree branches to keep the route open. Flash floods scour out the canyon regularly, so even the slightest evidence of vehicular travel is removed, and the canyon is changed. The stream that they talk about runs under ground from the top of the canyon until right before the narrows, which is the tight section of canyon that was the 4x4 challenge. That section of canyon is pure rock, with virtually no vegetation, and can't be hurt by vehicular travel. The stream disappears about 3/4's of a mile below the narrow part of the canyon.

Funny thing is that the regular flash floods do so much damage/change to the canyon that 4x4 use is totally insignificant. The part they say about gas and oil in the water isn't true, either. At the last major run up the canyon during Panamint Valley Days, where our club takes 20 some rigs up, plus our trail crew and cook crew, the BLM did water testing before, during, and after we ran up and down the canyon and the tests found no change in water quality.......not one trace of gas, oil, or other contaminants after about 30 rigs went up and then down the canyon, through the water.

[karstic]

Sounds like you've got a good Letter to the Editor there Richard

[Loose_Nuts_Enterprises]

I heard somewhere, that the water still has traces of mercury from the silver smelting process. Is there any credance to this?

[jonboy]

I have a hard time believing that the author of the article went further up the canyon than the beginning of the falls, if he even got that far - the cottonwoods he says jeepers "mowed over" were probably in the sandwash section that was basically 2 wheel drive trail and there's no reason anybody would stray off the trail there to hit a small tree. The flash floods however, definitely mow down anything in their path, including big trees, giant rocks and ore carts.

I only went there 4 times, but never saw anybody drive over trees or bushes, though we did leave some scraped paint on the rocks. As for the holes drilled in the solid rock walls, IIRC there were maybe a half dozen approx 1.5 inch dia holes and if you didn't know where they were, you'd be hard pressed to find them.

Short of going in with lots of explosives, there's not much we humans can do to that canyon that will come close to matching what mother nature does with a single storm.

Goatman - are you involved with the group who's looking into buying property up top, in order to secure access rights?

[Ed A. Stevens]

A recent article about Surprise Canyon. Looks like we got a tough fight ahead. buy plenty of raffle tickets.

http://www.lasvegassun.com/sunbin/stories/sun/2005/nov/14/519659433.html


Considering the byline contributors the slant of the article should be expected.

One of the quotes (and photos) is from the Novak family who live at the canyon base, who are portrayed a benign "caretakers." The son of this family is the only person who has ever been tried and convicted in Federal Superior Court for vandalism and "creating a public hazard" in Surprise Canyon and on Surprise Canyon Road. I have asked the article author how she can present a convicted vandal as a "caretaker?" I also sent her a copy of the sentence, and the case file number (to ease her research).

One of the quotes is from the Center for Biological Diversity (CBD) representation, Daniel Patterson (and ex. BLM employee, formerly from the Barstow BLM office). He has little patience for vehicle use (anywhere, or people in general). A little reading on his involvement in the ISDRA (Glamis Dunes) and the litigation leading to the Stipulation Agreement that closed Surprise Canyon Road will offer a better picture of his goals.

The other major quote source (and photo) is from another ex-BLM employee, Jeff Aardhal (formally from the Ridgecrest BLM office, and intimately involved with Surprise Canyon Road issues). It's no surprise to find him employed by the CBD within weeks of his retirement from the BLM.

The last Wilderness Study Report (pre S21, Desert Protection Act of 1994) of Surprise Canyon (CDCA-136 (http://www.ca.blm.gov/pa/wilderness/wilderness_pdfs/wsa/Volume-3/Vol-3-TOC.pdf)) recommended zero Wilderness. Senator Feinsteins comments and the content of the DPA of 1994 also excludes Surprise Canyon Road from the designated Wilderness. During Mr. Aardahl's tenure in Ridgecrest these recommendations were ignored and the CBD appeared to be informed of any challenges that would reverse a policy of closure. The public (and the BLM) is probably better off with Mr. Aardahl retired and overtly working for the CBD (IMO, rather than still working inside the BLM).

There will never be an easy fight with folks like these, and a complacent (collusive) print media. Letters to the editor should help.

My Baja plans fell through, so I have a slim chance of crashing the raffle party.

[Kejtar]

so who won what? :D

[johnnyc]

so who won what? :D

Well, the tickets I got for you won nothing. Same for Karstic. Sorry guys. I still have your string of tickets to prove it. And BTW, I won nothing either.

As usual, Sequoia and his father won multiple prizes. Lockwood won three times. And one each for Dan, Rabbit and Ryan Brown. There were a few others who also won multiple times.

Actually, I did get something. Ken from San Diego won some Farmer Matt's blank taillight boxes. And he gave them to me since they were for a pre-97. Thanks again Ken and Amanda!

[Kejtar]

Well, the tickets I got for you won nothing.
:cry: :bawl:

[Rawbrown]

I won some steel door edge gaurds or something and I exclaimed, "for what doors?" since I was missing my back 3 doors. So I traded it for a half case of heinekin's and then gave those away... after drinking 2...

[IMORTL]

I won some steel door edge gaurds or something and I exclaimed, "for what doors?" since I was missing my back 3 doors. So I traded it for a half case of heinekin's and then gave those away... after drinking 2...


I won the Heinys and traded for the door guards... then traded those for a set of FarmerMatt tailight boxes... cuz I took out a rear tail light backing down this massive rock and then... Oh wait... I wasnt even in my XJ when I lost the light.... :wave:

So it worked out great for me in the end... A great big thanks to all of the people who donated prizes... :)

Ken

[Rawbrown]

it was all a big blur...

[JohnX]

I got some light boxes too...pre 97, but I think I can make them fit.

Thanks to everyone who donated stuff.

Awesome Jeep run...broke an axle after about 100ft. on Claw Hammer. Spent the whole time fixing to drive home....and STILL had a great time.

Thanks to everyone who loaned me tools to get the job done, and several of you that volunteered to help wrench.

[99xjache]

I picked up the C-Rok rear bumper! what a great raffle! Thank yous go out all for a great raffle, and dinner.

This was a great run with a bunch of really great people. The trails were a little much for my junk, but I still had a fantastic time. Im looking forward to the next run!

[GSequoia]

Was a good raffle if I must say ;)

I got some transfer case spacers and discos from RE and a Yukon 4.88:1 d30 ring and pinion.

My dad won a Loose Nuts front bumper...for some reason it wouldn't fit on his Ranger so I traded him a bottle of beer for it.

[AzRick]

You're still a loser.

Rick

[mikedashg]

so who won what? :D

I got a http://www.warn.com/truck/winches/src/images/61/M8000_winch.jpg

What did you guys get? Beer?

:flipoff:

[mikedashg]

I won the Heinys and traded for the door guards... then traded those for a set of FarmerMatt tailight boxes... cuz I took out a rear tail light backing down this massive rock and then... Oh wait... I wasnt even in my XJ when I lost the light.... :wave:

So it worked out great for me in the end... A great big thanks to all of the people who donated prizes... :)

Ken

Deepest apologies Ken! Glad you got taillight boxes. I was trying to remember what year your rig was during the raffle in case I won them, I was going to give them to you.

So does this mean you don't want me to send you a taillight? If not, anything I can do? (Other then the winch) Buy you a bunch of raffle tickets next event? :D

NICE TO MEET YOU! haha

:flipoff:

[IMORTL]

Deepest apologies Ken! Glad you got taillight boxes. I was trying to remember what year your rig was during the raffle in case I won them, I was going to give them to you.

So does this mean you don't want me to send you a taillight? If not, anything I can do? (Other then the winch) Buy you a bunch of raffle tickets next event? :D

NICE TO MEET YOU! haha

:flipoff:

I was kidding about your winch... since I have the boxes, dont worry about it... but I reserve the right to hold it over you forever... :laugh: