Gusseting tubing.--- Questions.

myjeepsbigger · Oct 27, 2005

As some of you may know, I had a friend that was kind enough to destroy my XJ for me.....so now I'm looking at saving the firewall [forward] and floorpan....hoping to create some kind of buggy. The main structure will be tubed, similar to FarmerMatt's. My question is, what is your opinion on gusseting tubing joints with plate steel (3/16 or so), rather than tubing. I really like that look...just interested how it compares in strength to tube gussets. Kind of seems like it may concentrate stresses in a smaller area, but I'm no engineer.

Please discuss.

-Damon

jeep_87_cherokee · Oct 27, 2005

did your xj run off of Propane or is that a keggar in the back???

Dirk Pitt · Oct 27, 2005

As stated by Ed A. Stevens a while back, a gusset is solely added to gain weld area at bends/intersections.

If Ed said it, you can take it to the bank.

MudslinginXJ · Oct 27, 2005

I personally like the looks of the gussests over tube in the corners as well. Im sure the gussests can be as strong if not stronger then the tube. Plus its easier to weld a straight line and get a good bead instead of trying to weld around the tube unless your familiar with it.

myjeepsbigger · Oct 27, 2005

jeep_87_cherokee said:
did your xj run off of Propane or is that a keggar in the back???

Waverly huh? You should think about wheeling with us. My farm is just south of Nortonville. I know a few people from your area....

It's a keg gas tank. Redneck, I know.

jrsxj98 · Oct 27, 2005

myjeepsbigger said:
It's a keg gas tank. Redneck, I know.

Sure thats what you told the cops....now tell the truth...

bj-666 · Oct 28, 2005

i'm no expert but the idea behind puting in a gusset is to make more weld area thus making the joint stronger. i have read that tube gussets produce stiff spots away from the joint an sometimes the gusset will fail. check out the rules and guidelines of building cages for drag racers they spell out to the T what can and cannot be done and those cages are designed to handle 200mph+ crashes.

FarmerMatt · Oct 28, 2005

I've got no opinion on which way is better... Gussets are gussets. I like the looks of the tube better than flat. It was more work though, notching angles & fitting... I really like the "taco" style gusset also. It's kind of a combo of the 2.

Matt

BrettM · Oct 28, 2005

I think the ideal is a bent tube gusset. Read this thread, starting at post #90 and the following 5-10 posts: http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/showthread.php?t=375081

regardless, I think any of the 3 methods are adequate for 99% of the way we use XJs.

XJ_ranger · Oct 28, 2005

BrettM said:
I think the ideal is a bent tube gusset. Read this thread, starting at post #90 and the following 5-10 posts: http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/showthread.php?t=375081

regardless, I think any of the 3 methods are adequate for 99% of the way we use XJs.

yeah - but the 1% is the time that you will be kicken yourself...

BrettM · Oct 28, 2005

not "99% of the time", but "99% of XJs". I can't think of anyone on this board that (IMO) would ever need the slight advantage. I think it mainly applicable to high-speed rollovers.

binks off road · Oct 28, 2005

Did your friend get drunk and smack your truck with the rear bucket of a backhoe? OWCH.

BrettM · Oct 28, 2005

on the topic of gussets, be sure to check out all the gussets BTF offers, they can also do custom ones. I need to get one (or more!) of the bottle opener ones for my cage...

http://www.bluetorchfab.com/oscomm/catalog/index.php?cPath=24_49

David Taylor · Oct 28, 2005

BrettM said:
on the topic of gussets, be sure to check out all the gussets BTF offers, they can also do custom ones. I need to get one (or more!) of the bottle opener ones for my cage...

http://www.bluetorchfab.com/oscomm/catalog/index.php?cPath=24_49

I'm all over that

myjeepsbigger · Oct 28, 2005

binks off road said:
Did your friend get drunk and smack your truck with the rear bucket of a backhoe? OWCH.

I wish it were that simple.

Anyway, thanks for the input, guys. I started chopping last night....she's down to the floor pan already. Time to get out the jackstands and start building.

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