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maps
September 22nd, 2005, 14:09
I need some decent replacement shocks for my wife's stock (no lift) 99 XJ. I also need a steering stabilizer. Anybody have any opinions on what kind to buy? And yes I did a search before I typed this!

Timber
September 22nd, 2005, 14:27
Monroe Sensa-Tracs for shocks and go to AutoZone or other for a stock s.s. replacement. Do a search for the Monroes, and you'll see what most think of them.

maps
September 23rd, 2005, 08:18
Timber,

Thanks for the input... any other opinions?

ricot83
September 23rd, 2005, 08:25
i just got some gabriel shocks off ebay and threw them on last night.

red91
September 23rd, 2005, 09:25
Old Man Emu...or the RE mono-tubes....both very good.

Idiot Wind
September 23rd, 2005, 10:09
I replaced mine a few weeks ago. After searching, I don't recall reading 1 bad thing about either the Sensa-tracs or the Monroe Reflex.

I went with the Reflex and I couldn't be happier with them. I believe thru the end of October, Monroe has a rebate which will get you 4 for the price of 3.

I am stock as well.

JeepXJ93
September 23rd, 2005, 11:41
Im suprised you havnt gotten more respones for Old Man Emu....just put them on my buddies XJ and i couldnt beleive the difference they made.

iroc86
September 23rd, 2005, 11:52
My local 4x4 shop carries Trailmaster shocks. They cost about $60-$70 each, but they have a lifetime warranty -- simply take them back and they'll give you new ones (in any size!). I have them on my YJ and XJ; I have no complaints.

MAP
September 23rd, 2005, 12:27
I installed some Monroe Reflex shocks on my wife's 92 Explorer and they firmed up the ride, and decreased the sway on turns and the bouncing going over bumps.
3 shocks for the price of 4 is a good deal.
I got them at Rockauto.com.
Even with shipping, I saved $20 over buying them at the local autoparts stores.(taking the rebate into account)

MAP

maps
September 27th, 2005, 12:43
Just ordered the Monroe Sensa-track (she likes the soft ride) for my wife's XJ from Rockauto (thanks MAP). Anyone have any pointers on replacement of these puppies. I plan on hitting all old hardware with some penetrating oil tonight. Any advice would be appreciated.

MAPS

JeepXJ93
September 27th, 2005, 12:55
PB blast the **** out of those bolts...especially the rear uppers...if you snap those you'll have to drill em out, if possible, hit them for a few nights before you try to break them. Good luck.

jeepsrock
September 27th, 2005, 14:35
Dont get the gabriels....I have them on my xj and they suck..they are ok for the first 3 wks or so after that they ride like crap.

Anyone have any opinion about the blisteins 5100s?

pete

Eagle
September 27th, 2005, 19:33
Just ordered the Monroe Sensa-track (she likes the soft ride) for my wife's XJ from Rockauto (thanks MAP). Anyone have any pointers on replacement of these puppies. I plan on hitting all old hardware with some penetrating oil tonight. Any advice would be appreciated.

MAPS
Only potential problem area is the upper bolts for the rear shocks. As noted ... soak liberally with PB Blaster for several days before attempting the removal. Soak them down every night between now and the weekend. It probably wouldn't be a bad idea after soaking and just before applying the wrench, to give each bolt head a couple of solid whacks with a hammer. If the threads are rusted, this may help break them loose.

Once you have the old ones off, be sure to use anti-sieze on all threads when you reassemble.

TiRod
September 27th, 2005, 20:30
Advice I wish I had followed - I broke two lower front bolts off replacing my venerable Maeco stock shocks with 160k on them. My upper rears were squeaky - I guess the leaking pan gasket passing 5 cases of oil got them ready.
Gasket's fixed (one piece) and Sensatraks are on. Boss recommended Gas Magnums at work, these are what came. They make the ride feel like I have inch thick gel wraps on my tires - smooth control through chuck holes, rock holes, mud holes, and manholes. It's what you get in the Ozarks. Less pitch, sway, jounce, and the teeth rattling jitters went away completely. I guess the old shocks were a little worn out.

They should get a good workout next week during Rural Carrier training.

Kejtar
September 27th, 2005, 21:29
opinons? I'm full of.... opinions :D
Rancho RSX (especially if they have the buy three get one free going)

MAP
September 27th, 2005, 21:46
The top rear bolts are a problem like others have said.
Also, be sure not to overtorque the rear top bolts when you intall the new shocks.. you might strip the threads... (how would I know that??)

MAP

mlefoley
September 28th, 2005, 05:37
First thing I replaced on my 2001 when I got it late spring..great on the highway at high speeds, rough roads, and for heavy towing. The upper rear mount design is crap with that stamped steel crossmember. I had 2 bolts shear off (looked like grade 1 steel) with minor force..they are too small to start with. Like they've said, soak it down for a week or so at least and shoot from the sides to get at the nutserts on the back side. Hammering it may also help. I found it also helps to tighten it first to get some free room for very small incremental back and forth twists. whatever you do, go very slowly and take your time..drilling and tapping is a pain..replace with grade 8 equivalent hardware.

4xBob
October 5th, 2005, 21:42
A couple of months ago I put Bilstein shocks (standard suspension height model, not 5100s) on my 1990 and Doetsch Tech shocks on my daughter's 1990. Results: the Bilsteins are firmer, but not too firm- good control and good on bumps and dips. The DTs are softer, noticably more comfortable on speed bumps. I like them both. The Doetsch Tech were about 1/2 the price of the Bilsteins, and I don't expect them to last as long as the superbly crafted Bilsteins.

ECKSJAY
October 6th, 2005, 07:48
A couple of months ago I put Bilstein shocks (standard suspension height model, not 5100s) on my 1990 and Doetsch Tech shocks on my daughter's 1990. Results: the Bilsteins are firmer, but not too firm- good control and good on bumps and dips. The DTs are softer, noticably more comfortable on speed bumps. I like them both. The Doetsch Tech were about 1/2 the price of the Bilsteins, and I don't expect them to last as long as the superbly crafted Bilsteins.

Same as when you compare the Bilsteins to the Rancho RSX. The Ranchos tend to be softer and are essentially copies of the Bilsteins. I haven't seen quality like that of the Bilsteins on anything else. They don't make steering stabilizers, so a Rancho 5401 works just fine. :)

maps
October 6th, 2005, 10:01
PB blast the **** out of those bolts...especially the rear uppers...if you snap those you'll have to drill em out, if possible, hit them for a few nights before you try to break them. Good luck.

Well 3 nights of PB blaster and all 4 of the rear upper bolts still snapped while rermoving them. Anyone have an idea of what size drill bit and tap I need to fix this problem? I don't have a tap so I must go to the hardware store. Steering stabilizer went on without a problem though!!!

mlefoley
October 6th, 2005, 12:37
I'll see if I can locate the tap tonight..however, due to the position and angle of the holes, using the normal tap handle was useless..I put it in the chuck of my bosch 18v cordless and it made it real easy..several easy in and out partial passes (didn't want to twist off the tap in the hole) and it was ready. Even trying to drill out just the bolt shaft is virtually impossible so you will wind up tapping a combination of threads and nutsert. The length of the drill allowed for accurate alignment as well as being able to put some pressure on the tap to help drive it. Still was glad I only had to do just 2 and not 4

jlh
October 6th, 2005, 12:51
The tap size on my 93 was 8x1.25. I bought a set at the local Advance Auto for $7. Good luck drilling from the bottom I could not get a good angle on the bolt and had to cut the floor board a little to get at it from the top.

HEP111
October 6th, 2005, 15:57
I just banged the nuts out and replaced everything with grade 8 bolts... although I have JKS BPE so I went up a bolt size which had it more difficult than it should be. Ohh and I had to be creative in putting the nuts in with a wrench/magnet combo to first start them. Yes alot more trouble but very secure...

maps
October 6th, 2005, 19:09
Well I finished the rear shocks today! I cut the floor pan in the cargo area to get access to the upper broken bolts. I then drilled the old bolts out and opened the whole up to 3/8. I then replaced with grade 8 bolts, nuts and lock washers when I put the new shocks in. I did this so I wouldn't have to tap the old nuts after drilling out the bolts. I still have to close the floor pan but I will leave that for another day. Now just have the front shocks to do... hopefully they will be easier!