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96xjeeper
June 30th, 2003, 12:13
A question for all. I really like Rocky Road's "step rail" rocker rails, but rather than a 2" rail just sits out a little further I would prefer a 4" rail. Does anyone make them for generly the same price as the RR ones? I am totally concerned with quality, I want the protection, then looks, I want them to look good, and finally price, I am looking at the $250-$300 range. Any Ideas?

Tucker
June 30th, 2003, 12:16
AJ's super rails ... http://www.ajsoffroadarmor.com .. there may not be a pic of his Super Rail model but ask him about them. Mine arrived last week and they're awesome. Right price, too.

poppabear
June 30th, 2003, 12:51
TOMKEN has 4" wide rails. Not as beefy. I thing once you get to a 3/16" thickness the extra weight becomes on issue. Also take a looks at kevins sliderZ www.kevinsoffroad.com

ChuckD
June 30th, 2003, 12:57
Here's a really good reason to get a stout set of rockrails.

http://groups.msn.com/JeepCherokeeClub/xjchuck.msnw?action=ShowPhoto&PhotoID=872

gettinbetterXJ
June 30th, 2003, 14:43
where are you located 96xjeeper?

Ted Z
June 30th, 2003, 15:00
XJCHUCK72, stout rails...more like training wheels......jk

gettinbetterXJ
June 30th, 2003, 15:17
I question the wisdom of your seeming disregard for Rocker rails on an XJ Ted.......LOL I have had MANY instances of "BAM!!!!...... oh wait that was just the rock rails" that resulted in NO damage

seanR
June 30th, 2003, 15:20
AJ's Are the best for the price, Hands Down! I got minelast week, Shipped them on Friday and I got them on Saturday! Very easy to install also.

roke40
June 30th, 2003, 15:52
I've got Rocky Road rails and have beat the shit out of them and they've held up great. A little sanding and touchup painting and there good as new. If you're looking for a step though I agree with pappbear, take a look at Kevin's. He's a great guy to deal with. I've gotten a few things form him and he's got great prices too.

ChuckD
June 30th, 2003, 16:17
Originally posted by Ted Z
XJCHUCK72, stout rails...more like training wheels......jk

That's ZPD's rig, http://www.xjworld.4wdriver.com/ , but he did a great job on that bumper and those rails. :)

GI-John
June 30th, 2003, 19:09
Another vote for AJ's rails

A fellow XJ'er with great prices, quality, and service.

You can talk to him about building a set of custom rails for you. I have a set of his rails and couldn't be happier.

He's centrally located, so shipping won't kill you too. (Iowa)

HTH,

John

robs
June 30th, 2003, 19:36
They're really pretty easy to build yourself...

I did it with 10' of 2x4... 10' of 1x1, 5' of 1-1/2x1-1/2 and some 3" angle... toss in hardware.. about $70...

http://members.intertek.net/~simons/xj/Rock2.jpg

This was one of the very first things I made... would do it differently now...

The 1x1 goes down the pinch seam on the rocker... held on with a dozen 1/4" self tappers... the 1-1/2x1-1/2 goes under the 1x1 and holds on the rocker... I ran this out on the 2x4, and it might snag on rocks.. hasn't yet, but could...

http://members.intertek.net/~simons/xj/Rear1.jpg

I haven't been paying attention and have come down HARD on them... just wiped off the paint...

96xjeeper
July 1st, 2003, 03:35
I looked at the Tomken 4" exactly what I want in size! So will the 1/8 as oppose to 3/16 make an enormous difference in strenth. I wont be slamming them on rocks but if I happen to scrape a rock I want protection. Also I looked at Kevin's I like them also except neither of the two look like they bolt to the pinch seam. Do they and I just not see it? If they do not bolt to the pinch seam how drasticly will this effect the strenth, pushing up on them as well as standing on them? I really like the price of Kevin's. And finally AJ's web site doesn't post prices? can they custom make 2x4 sliders, for about what price, and how it thier strenth, do they bolt to the pinch seam? Again I am looking for a step into the truck, onto the roof rack, and protection.

bgcntry72
August 28th, 2003, 12:17
Tomkens have an annoying tendency of focusing all of the load on the two pinch seam tabs, which are 3" wide, at least mine were. They do more harm than good. Get a rail that mounts along the length of the pinch seam like my Rocky Roads. They can take a pounding.

TOZOVR
August 28th, 2003, 12:57
http://www.authorizedvehicle4x4.com/COMP/31.JPG

My CRSU weld on Rails are insanely beefy...2x4 with 3 1" Square tube outriggers welded on....

http://www.authorizedvehicle4x4.com/COMP/46.JPG

jeepme
August 28th, 2003, 13:23
What ever you do DONT BUY daysar "not so real steel" rocker gaurds, big POS, I had to re enforce them with 1"x1" and do a lot of welding to make them work. I thought I got a great deal when I bought them......Just gos to show "you get what ya pay for"

PhatXJ
August 28th, 2003, 13:28
Originally posted by 96xjeeper
I looked at the Tomken 4" exactly what I want in size! So will the 1/8 as oppose to 3/16 make an enormous difference in strenth. I wont be slamming them on rocks but if I happen to scrape a rock I want protection. Also I looked at Kevin's I like them also except neither of the two look like they bolt to the pinch seam. Do they and I just not see it? If they do not bolt to the pinch seam how drasticly will this effect the strenth, pushing up on them as well as standing on them? I really like the price of Kevin's. And finally AJ's web site doesn't post prices? can they custom make 2x4 sliders, for about what price, and how it thier strenth, do they bolt to the pinch seam? Again I am looking for a step into the truck, onto the roof rack, and protection.

How close did you look at AJ's site?

I'll point you to the specific page: http://www.ajsoffroadarmor.com/RockRails/

There is pricing there that will give you a basic idea. If you want something custom, he will do it guaranteed, however the price will fluctuate on the givin' design. That is the main reason he doesn't post specific prices. There are mounting pics in there as well, at the very bottom is the current mounting design.

I built my rails myself, but his Super rails are pretty much identical to mine. All his rails bolt onto the pinch seam.

http://www.ajsoffroadarmor.com/cgi-bin/upload/rails.jpg

There are also several more pictures on his website, I know because I put them there ;)

PhatXJ
August 28th, 2003, 13:32
http://www.ajsoffroadarmor.com/RockRails/images/AJsOffroadArmor_rails_018.jpg

JKTXJ
August 28th, 2003, 20:07
In progress right now....

http://www.myweb.cableone.net/tacomaporter/images/newrail.jpg


http://www.myweb.cableone.net/tacomaporter/images/newrails2.jpg

WesternXJ
August 28th, 2003, 20:22
I'm runnin' the Tomken 2"x4" and love them. They've handled the Rubicon, Fordyce and Barrett Lake trails with only scratches.

Craig Wood
August 28th, 2003, 20:54
I think the best rock rails are ORGS, ask Farmer Matt. If you want a step you can buy one that will drop when the door is open or you can wire to a switch. The rock rails are one of the most important items in my opinon! You really only get one chance to get it right!

JKTXJ
August 28th, 2003, 20:58
ORGS does make nice stuff indeed, and Mark is a heck of a guy. Helped me out down in Moab with a repair.

TOZOVR
August 29th, 2003, 07:44
Originally posted by PhatXJ
How close did you look at AJ's site?

I'll point you to the specific page: http://www.ajsoffroadarmor.com/RockRails/

There is pricing there that will give you a basic idea. If you want something custom, he will do it guaranteed, however the price will fluctuate on the givin' design. That is the main reason he doesn't post specific prices. There are mounting pics in there as well, at the very bottom is the current mounting design.

I built my rails myself, but his Super rails are pretty much identical to mine. All his rails bolt onto the pinch seam.

http://www.ajsoffroadarmor.com/cgi-bin/upload/rails.jpg

There are also several more pictures on his website, I know because I put them there ;)


I love Daves Rig...kudos on ROTM by the way bud!!


RJ

BillR
August 29th, 2003, 07:46
No one's mentioned C4x4's rails?
I have them, and they're battle-proven! I've come down HARD on them a few times, and barely scratched the paint. They're one of my most important mods to date.

PhatXJ
August 29th, 2003, 08:15
Originally posted by TOZOVR
I love Daves Rig...kudos on ROTM by the way bud!!


RJ


Thanks RJ!! http://jeepin.com//ubb/graemlins/rock.gif

2offroad
August 29th, 2003, 08:26
woo hoo the pix of the under side is my XJ now i'm infamous.
i like my AJ's rock rails they have taken so hard hits and held up great.

FarmerMatt
August 29th, 2003, 09:11
I've dragged ORGS rails across some of the hardest trails in Arizona, Colorado, & of corse California. They've proven them selves to me. During the BOTW trips there were many times that the Mattool was needed to help a fellow jeeper open their door because the rails they used had bent up to the point where they couldn't open their door. I won't mention the names of those manufacturers, but some have been listed in this thread. This will not happen with the ORGS rails. If your serious about rocker protection & plan to hit serious trails that warrant it than this is the rail you need. As for Old Man Hinckley being a nice guy, well... that's highly debatable.

Matt

Matt