tranny temp gauge

[anaheimxj]

has anyone installed a transmission temperature gauge?
the sender on mine says to replace the drain plug with it, any thoughts?

I could not put it in the test gauge hole because the fluid is not always that high, right?

aw4, 4.0L, 1996

[MudDawg]

The pressure test point for main pump pressure always has fluid flow when the engine is running...however, if the sensor will fit in the test port...if it inserts too deep, could restrict fluid flow depending on how the fluid galleys are made..the old sensor in the pan trick works well as long as the hardware is out of the way so it don't get dragged off.

[andyr354]

Get an inline kit to put the sensor in the cooling lines. You can have it up out of the way and it will give you a much more accurate reading, if you put it in the hot line.

I think both B&M and Autometer sell a kit to do it.

[Art Triggs]

I added a sender to an external filter housing, on the return line(wanted to see how it was temp-wise going back in after the aux cooler) - I will probably add another sender in the hot line coming out of the tranny to see what the temp difference is, if for no other reason than to see how well the aux is really doing it's job.....I have heard that the temp difference between the hot and cold sides can be as much as 50 degrees, I figure I can see for myself this way.

[Craig Wood]

I installed mine in the return line from the transmission cooler. I believe that mopar has a part for installing in the return line. If I remember correctly 5/16" OD Tubing - P4876057, 3/8" OD Tubing - P4876058. Hope this helps.

Craig

[HodgePodge]

What I am thinking of doing is putting two sensors in and wiring them up to a switch right next to the gauge. one for Tranny, the other for transfercase.. or possibly the cold and hot. Just a simple pushbutton non-momentary switch.

One thing I am not too clear on is do the Transmission and transfer case swap fluid. if not is there ever any problems with the transfer case overheating? I have seen a gauge that has both transfercase and tranny temp gauges on it but its kinda hokey looking and figured this way would be a little easier to read.

Hodge

[Pawk]

If have a sending unit in both lines controlled by a toggle switch and, yes, at times there is a 50 degree difference(super slow wheeling or pulling long steep grades in the mountains. Normally the difference is around 30.

The hottest the hot line has ever reached is just under 210, and hotest the return line has reached is 170. Normally much lower.

:party:

[anaheimxj]

thanks for the input. now that I look more closely I think the crossmember/support is too close for my comfort. it may shift and break off the sender.

if there is only a 50 degree cooling happening, is that really something to be too concerned about?

[anaheimxj]

I found the manifold to do it inline. its connectors look to be compression fittings that are screwed into the block. I have little faith in that type of fitting. I could replace them with flares, barb-type fot the flex/rubber hose, or the like without causing any reading problems, right?

[HodgePodge]

Just wondering how the install is going, looking at doing it pretty soon, have to swap out the ATF, at the 60,000 mile marker and want to do a belt adjustment and the such, since i'm in there wanna install my cooler and gauge senders. That way i don't have to keep screwing with filling ATF.

One more question is this the manifold you used?
http://store.summitracing.com/global/images/prod/norm/atm-2286_m.jpg
I am assuming it is.

Thanks Hodge

[PaulJ]

I'd put it in the pan. You can get an B&M or equivalent drain plug kit and install it in the pan. B&M's tranny temp sensor will screw in place of the plug in their add-on drain plug kit.

[anaheimxj]

I have notdone it yet.

However, when I do that is the manifold that I will use.

As for mounting it where PaulJ suggests, I think it has to great of a chance of being sheared off, as my second post stated.

It is of course up to you and the layout of your vehicle and its add-ons.

[HodgePodge]

I might put one in the pan but I am going to put on in the fluid return from the cooler I have to install too.. Just have to look for a good place to put it so it doesn't get ripped off by bushes, rocks, mud, small animals, and the such.

[THE_OWL]

I have mine in the Pan. Havent run it yet tho :D
used a Nordskog gauge on an autometer pod.
I put a switch to turn the gauges off when I dont want to see bright red.
http://www.digitalflare.net/owl/images/Jeep%202MUCHXJ/bangher.jpg

[urbanXJ]

OWL,
Do you have a part number on the pod?
I havn't found one for an XJ in summit or anywhere.

Also, why would anyone worry about the temp of oil returning into the system? If the oil coming out is 500* your going to puke your tranny no matter what the return temp is.

[HodgePodge]

urbanXJ didnt' get mine from summit they didn't have them, but the part numbers are:

XJ 88-00 dual 2 1/16" gauges P/N: 15210
XJ 88-00 single 2 1/16" gauge P/N: 15211
http://www.autometer.com/hp/2003_catalog/gaugeworks/20.html

I got mine from http://www.carshopinc.com/. It was $37.90 shipped. Hope this helps.

Hodge

[marcusguy]

Do those pods come in different colors?

marcus

[THE_OWL]

they come in black only
mine was 27 shipped from Summit

[Tom Campbell]

Originally posted by anaheimxj
I found the manifold to do it inline. its connectors look to be compression fittings that are screwed into the block. I have little faith in that type of fitting. I could replace them with flares, barb-type fot the flex/rubber hose, or the like without causing any reading problems, right?
So im about to install a tranny temp guage and was gonna use a block just like that. is there any problems with the fittings? any tips for cutting the lines ? do they need flared? i am able to do so if thats the case. I just dont want to be loosing my transmission when im trying to hel pit.:eek:

[KryptoniteXJ]

This site has the Dual "A" Pillar gauge pod for 27.90.

http://egauges.com/vdo_acce.asp?Subgroup=Jeep_Cherokee

They also have cheap autometer gauges. Ive got a Trans Temp and Air/fuel ratio gauge in my '91 2dr. and love it. I can tell if the tranny is hot and if the Engine is running lean or rich.

[cal]

I'm pretty sure by now they all found the data they needed - that thread died five years ago.

[5-90]

What I am thinking of doing is putting two sensors in and wiring them up to a switch right next to the gauge. one for Tranny, the other for transfercase.. or possibly the cold and hot. Just a simple pushbutton non-momentary switch.

One thing I am not too clear on is do the Transmission and transfer case swap fluid. if not is there ever any problems with the transfer case overheating? I have seen a gauge that has both transfercase and tranny temp gauges on it but its kinda hokey looking and figured this way would be a little easier to read.

Hodge

They do not.

However, I'd like to note a couple of things:

1) I'd be more inclined to put the sensor in the line to the cooler, not the return line. This would give a better idea of how hard the box is working (ideally, I'd use both lines - to monitor the box and the cooler. But, I'm an information junkie...)

2) Unless you've got a clutch pack in the transfer case, you really don't need to monitor it. If you're going to monitor transfer case fluid temperature, you're going to want to install a cooler eventually as well - and I haven't sorted out how to circulate that fluid yet, or make sure the lines don't get knackered about without some very fancy work...

[cal]

5-90, you're answering questions from summer of 2003.

[MoFo]

But 5-90 is sooo good at it.

[cal]

But 5-90 is sooo good at it.

haha, thats true.

[5-90]

5-90, you're answering questions from summer of 2003.

Yeah - it just came around again. I didn't dig for it - it came up on its own!:dunno:

[AlabamaDan]

This site has the Dual "A" Pillar gauge pod for 27.90.

http://egauges.com/vdo_acce.asp?Subgroup=Jeep_Cherokee

They also have cheap autometer gauges. Ive got a Trans Temp and Air/fuel ratio gauge in my '91 2dr. and love it. I can tell if the tranny is hot and if the Engine is running lean or rich.

It may have started as an old thread, but it's good information for the rest of us. I'm trying to decide what's better to install the gauge before the cooler or after. Seems like you'd want to go before, that's how hot it really is.

Is this install easy? Where do you get the guage and sensor kit?