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XJFREK
March 23rd, 2005, 10:41
Okay, what does this remind you of?
http://i.cnn.net/money/popups/2005/autos/ny_autoshow/comm_front.jpg
Unveiled today at the NY auto show. Kinda makes me wonder why the Liberty is the way it is if this is the new direction Jeep is going with styling.

Citat3962
March 23rd, 2005, 10:47
Looks like a bigger rehash of the late model Cherokee Classics..

I vote....... meh.

I'm Definately glad they're keeping some of them boxy....

I wish they would have followed this formula on a smaller scale with the Lib...

casm
March 23rd, 2005, 11:04
I vote....... meh.

Agreed.

On a semi-related note, I see they also unveiled the "all-new, race-inspired" WK SRT-8 (http://www.jeep.com/srt/index.html).

OK, so we've now got a Grand Cherokee that can hit 60 in 5 seconds. Whoop-de-effing-doo. If I wanted something fast, I'd buy a Corvette, Maserati, or similar.

Seriously, I wish Jeep would go back to building off-road vehicles. For God's sake, they actually *lowered* the suspension on this thing.

LibertyPatriot
March 23rd, 2005, 13:22
I read somewhere that Jeep has two trains of thought for design right now.
1) Utility= boxy, straight up flatter windsheild; sharper lines (Wrangler, Rescue, Commander)

2) Sporty= rounder, sloped back windsheild, softer lines (Liberty, Grand, Compass)

This is all to better appeal to different customer bases.
With Ford and Chevy and all the other auto mfgs coming out with so many new models, Jeep and DCX are going into the same mode. Jeff Bell was quoted as saying that Jeep will be introducing several new models in the last half of the decade.

I like the options they are coming out with, but wish Jeep would stick with more hard part options (Rubicon) rather than different trim levels (Rocky Mt. edition, Freedom edition, etc.) Also, it looks like as with the other companies DCX is dumbing down the driving experience. All you have to do is steer, (I typed steer and thought of a bull calf with his nuts cut off, that's pretty close to what it seems that new Jeeps are becoming.)

All in all, I'm sure I won't be putting a Commander in my stable. (too much $$$)

Keith

LibertyPatriot
March 23rd, 2005, 13:25
More info at Rockcrawler.com (http://www.rockcrawler.com/features/newsshorts/05march/jeep_commander.asp)

NXJ
March 23rd, 2005, 13:27
IFS:smsoap:

red91
March 23rd, 2005, 14:01
I'm thinking this reminds me of a thread thats about 3 weeks old. :speepin:

JohnJohn
March 23rd, 2005, 14:40
I have been waiting so long for three rows of seating in a Jeep. My wife wants to buy Durnago sooo bad. I have been holding her off. Glad I did now.

I assume it will have enough tow compacity to pull my XJ on a flatbed, the Durango does...withthe Hemi anyway.

I also dig the high back second row seating.

The RockCrawler artcile talks about the XJ being used to inspire this unit. That alone make we want one.

Since the article does talk about a t-case I ASSuME that the rear axle is solid. The front IFS is not a big deal to me on this unit. I wouldn't wheel a $50k Jeep anyway. $50K, I am guessing. If so I'll take a stripped unit with a Hemi.

At least WE know what a stretched 2006 XJ might have looked like

THIS WILL BE my next JEEP!

TORX
March 23rd, 2005, 14:41
I'm thinking this reminds me of a thread thats about 3 weeks old. :speepin:

Reminds me of something as well...

TORX

Lawn Cher'
March 23rd, 2005, 14:42
Reminds me of something as well...

TORX

I'm thinking of something brown...

TORX
March 23rd, 2005, 15:09
I'm thinking of something brown...

nope

TORX

casm
March 23rd, 2005, 15:09
I'm thinking of something brown...

Does it sound like a bell?

JohnJohn
March 23rd, 2005, 17:06
I'm thinking of something brown...

I spy something...RED

http://www.dancelikeagoon.org/gallery-albums/uploads/acl.sized.jpg

CaptTrev
March 23rd, 2005, 17:34
looks like a cherokee from the front door-forward....the rest is just an overgrown stretched cherokee....


i bet it would be a real dog with that 3.7 v6.......

you'd HAVE to get the hemi.....

id have to see what it looked like with a small lift and 33's

right now it looks like an Armada/QX55(or whatever it is) with the big hulking body and small tires

the interior is very Nissan Armada....big

DrMoab
March 23rd, 2005, 17:37
looks like a cherokee from the front door-forward....the rest is just an overgrown stretched cherokee....


i bet it would be a real dog with that 3.7 v6.......

you'd HAVE to get the hemi.....

id have to see what it looked like with a small lift and 33's

right now it looks like an Armada/QX55(or whatever it is) with the big hulking body and small tires

the interior is very Nissan Armada....big
Looks like a reworked LandRover to me. Speaking of what it would look like with a small lift. Saw an 05 Grand in Moab last week with a lift and 33s. Looked good actually

bjoehandley
March 23rd, 2005, 20:50
If you want 3 row seating and good towing, why not get a full size van? You'd even have room for cargo behind the third row, and they look better!

JohnJohn
March 23rd, 2005, 20:54
If you want 3 row seating and good towing, why not get a full size van? You'd even have room for cargo behind the third row, and they look better!

Iv'e thought about that but I want the 4wheel drive for the snow here in Colorado, rear wheel is no fun. Anyone still make a 4x4 van that will tow 5000lbs+? Chevy Astro?

bjoehandley
March 23rd, 2005, 21:06
I think the Chevy Express has both options, John John. It seams mighty comfy behind the wheel too, even on a work van with a cage between the passenger seat area and cargo area! I think the base Express is about $23k, maybe a 5.3l or 6.0l 2500 w/awd and Class III would be kinda nice.

JohnJohn
March 23rd, 2005, 21:11
I think the Chevy Express has both options, John John. It seams mighty comfy behind the wheel too, even on a work van with a cage between the passenger seat area and cargo area! I think the base Express is about $23k, maybe a 5.3l or 6.0l 2500 w/awd and Class III would be kinda nice.

hmmm...couple of bean bags and some dutch tape and I have a conversion van. Still won't say Jeep on it. :D

casm
March 23rd, 2005, 21:18
hmmm...couple of bean bags and some dutch tape and I have a conversion van. Still won't say Jeep on it. :D

Perhaps we should be petitioning DCX for a 4WD Dodge Sprinter (http://www.dodge.com/sprinter/) in that case... God knows UPS seems to be in love with them around here :D

bjoehandley
March 23rd, 2005, 21:20
If you can order it like we ordered our 78 and 87 Chevy's (light duty G-20 window vans), Dad could get the 2wd vans to do more than some 4wd trucks, and even as worn out and dead as it is, the '87 still has more ground clearance than my boss's '04 Tahoe!

Oh god I hope they don't do a 4wd Sprinter, it's too tall and underpowered as it is!

casm
March 23rd, 2005, 21:30
Oh god I hope they don't do a 4wd Sprinter, it's too tall and underpowered as it is!

I could understand an AWD Sprinter, but, having said that...

The first time I saw it, my initial thought was, "oh, great, Mercedes is trying to sell vans designed for European cities in the US." Then I saw the Dodge badge, which made sense - Mercedes won't have to eat the big green weenie when they turn out to be ill-suited to American conditions.

Having said that, the ultimate commercial vehicle is still the Citroen H-van (http://www.h-van.com/). Far less power than a Sprinter, way more functional (read: uglier) looks, and at least making no bones about what it's intended for.

Lawn Cher'
March 24th, 2005, 07:33
Does it sound like a bell?

This one's for you, Scott:

Needs more cowbell.

That is all.