36" iroks on a 2 door.....how much lift is necessary? [Archive] - NAXJA Forums -::- North American XJ Association

olivedrabcj7

March 5th, 2005, 15:19

alright alright alright....just scored me a hella deal on a 97 2 door XJ. it will be here in the morning. i want to run 36x13.50 iroks. ive had several 4 door XJ's on 33's. i plan to swap axles and regear but thats another thread.......anyway.......on a 2 door XJ, assuming im handy with the milwaukee fender slammer (the reciprocating saw....not the beer)......how much lift do i really need? im thinking either the RE 5.5 or rustys 6.5 and trimming should be good. are there any good pictures of XJ's with this setup? or pictures of trimming the rear of a 2 door XJ? thanks in advance!

orvpark

March 5th, 2005, 15:22

i'm running 36's with about 6.5" on a 4 door, it should be cake with a 2 door

olivedrabcj7

March 5th, 2005, 15:34

post up a pic if you can

XJZ

March 5th, 2005, 15:45

Be creative with the sheet metal and you could get away with 5-5.5" of lift.

The benefit is a lower center of gravity AND room for large tires!

copperhead

March 5th, 2005, 15:48

Here's one with 38's on 3". He had to trim a bit :D

http://www.mustangmods.com/data/13085/crazymofo.2.jpg

Ramsey

March 5th, 2005, 16:12

and away goes cheapxj's throne of low lift big tires

olivedrabcj7

March 5th, 2005, 16:41

thats ridiculous.....it would look better and do just as good at 3" with 35's......

GottaBeJeep

March 5th, 2005, 16:44

I had the RE 5.5" kit with 37" MT/R's. Just a little fender trimming and proper bumpstops will take you a long way. I did not have to rebuild/reweld the rear wheel wells either, on a 4 door. I just did the cut and fold method, like Jason did on his Bushwacker install article on his site, www.jeepin.com

jeeppowermj

March 5th, 2005, 17:09

thats ridiculous.....it would look better and do just as good at 3" with 35's......

I'd imagine that thing is for strictly mud. You need big tires in mud around here. Does anybody have info on this(engine, axles, etc...)

xjj33p3r

March 5th, 2005, 17:42

I'd imagine that thing is for strictly mud. You need big tires in mud around here. Does anybody have info on this(engine, axles, etc...)
All stock.... he posted the specs on jeep forum, or lack-there-of

copperhead

March 5th, 2005, 17:44

It was from another forum. this is an exerpt of what the owner had to say about it:

"1995 XJ 4.0 2 Door 3 Inch Skyjacker Lift. 38.5 x 11x15 Swamper Boggers. Homemade-gas, tran, motor & T/C skid plates,front bumper and sidebars." (from his sig)

"no special axles. a lot of cutting. right now i i have evrything cut and i just need to fix metal. on the fire wall there was a wiring harness thing but that is no longer there. i moved my winshiled wiper fluid tank inside the jeep, my battery inside, elimintated the coolant resevoir. i use this thing for mudding so i have my bump stops extended. the front rubs when i turn all the way. also on the front i had to make a support or stabalizer or whatever you want to call it since the old wheel well actually held the pressure front the coil spring pushing up on it. as for the wheels they are normal rock crawlers...." (from post)

Ramsey

March 5th, 2005, 19:27

ok guess ryan still ahs the lowest lift biggest tire that is most functional

Lore5

March 5th, 2005, 19:37

Yeh that thing is running stock axles with 3.07 gearing. He said he wanted to upgrade to d44's and I was like WTF. He needs to be running something alot stronger in the rear

Ramsey

March 5th, 2005, 19:44

well in the mud he might be able to get by with that

olivedrabcj7

March 5th, 2005, 20:01

HELLS YEAH!! my jeep will be here in the morning....just talked to the guy delivering it....1700 bucks for a 97 2 door XJ....i stole that thing...anyway, i just bought a rustys 4.5" kit with full leafs in the rear, all brand new....without any control arms....i gave 450 bucks for it and it is local so no shipping!....comes with an adjustable trackbar, shocks, full packs, brakelines, coils, and a cool lookin sticker. im now in the market for some adjustable control arms upper and lower, and a BB to put on top of this kit to make it about 6-6.5" then ill be looking for some used 36" swamper TSL's, or IROKS!!!!!! ;) i just took out my sawzall a minute ago, put a new blade in it, plugged her in and made sure shes in good working order.... im gettin real excited!!! ( evil grin ) somebody hook me up on these parts!!! pics with the buildup will follow. in the mean time somebody post up pics and info on how you trimmed the rear of your 2 door XJ. :)

Atl-Atl

March 5th, 2005, 21:16

I hope your kidding about 6.5" of lift on stock control arms! Id spend yer money on a longarm kit before you get 36s. That thing is gonna ride like sh*t on stock control arms.

olivedrabcj7

March 5th, 2005, 21:17

not stock control arms....adjustable uppers and lowers...dont want longarms...id rather have drop brackets but i cant find any.

olivedrabcj7

March 5th, 2005, 21:22

not stock control arms....adjustable uppers and lowers...dont want longarms...id rather have drop brackets but i cant find any.

i guess i could always buy new ones for like 250 though....thats cheapeer than adjustable arms.....matter of fact i may do that!!

Atl-Atl

March 5th, 2005, 21:27

oh sorry, I didnt realize that you were talkin about gettin adjustable short arms. I guess its the beer!!!

olivedrabcj7

March 5th, 2005, 21:50

Kittrell

March 5th, 2005, 22:02

think 6.5" on adjustable shorties will work decent? this jeep will be 75% trail and 25% street (to and from trails if not trailered to the trailhead) ??? i sure hope so....im not gonna have enough moolah for long arms...plus they have lots of drawbacks....

however i may go with the drop brackets with my stock control arms. whichever ends up being cheaper. if i can find some adjustable uppers and lowers for cheaper than DB's and braces then thats the route....if not then drop brackets it is!

Most people that have DB's have aftermarket CA's. I have DB's w/braces, RE fixed SF lowers and SF ADJ uppers. People get the DB's t get rid of the crappy angles the lift gives, not so they can use their stock arms............ :wierd:

olivedrabcj7

March 5th, 2005, 22:12

oh well....with 6.5" of lift and 36's.....its not exactly going to have 30" of wheel travel available...... :/

woody431

March 5th, 2005, 22:22

however i may go with the drop brackets with my stock control arms. whichever ends up being cheaper.

Usually whenever people talk about 36s, "cheap" usually isn't in the same sentence. What are you doing for axles and gears?

olivedrabcj7

March 5th, 2005, 22:33

8.8 rear lock right, stock d30 front open, 4.56's all around

woody431

March 5th, 2005, 22:35

Why not do 4.88's? You can run them with the 8.8/30.

olivedrabcj7

March 5th, 2005, 22:38

i thought 4.56 was the tallest you could go with a 30...maybe i will go with 4.88's then....i want to leave the front open for ease of turning on tight trails and that axle isnt exactly beef either. ill swap in somethin better when i get sick of breaking it. lol

Atl-Atl

March 6th, 2005, 00:14

I see that you are a member on jeepforum, shoot an email to redrock4x4 and see what you can get a set of RE drop brackets for, you will probably be pleasantly suprised!

olivedrabcj7

March 6th, 2005, 06:05

i just checked out his website and it says 249.00 and free shipping.

then i found this website that has them for 230.00 plus shipping.
http://www.extremegearoffroad.com/rubicon.htm

probably close to the same price either way.

olivedrabcj7

March 6th, 2005, 07:12

SONOFAB**CH!!!!!!! the guys wife just called me to inform me that he had to turn around and come back at like 2am this morning because the transmission was messing up. i guess this means i wont be getting my jeep this morning.....(throw cup of coffe in frustration).......she said he is going to call me when he wakes up. hopefully he will get the tranny fixed and still sell it to me. daaaammmiiiittttttt!!!!!!!!!

olivedrabcj7

March 6th, 2005, 12:19

I just got off the phone with him and he said they ran codes on it this morning and it has a bad o2 sensor....Apparently the guy delivering it said it was "hesitating" and acting like it was between 3rd and 4th gear. So he freaked out and went back. He also said it was doing fine at 70+ mph and at 60 and below but right around 65 is when it would do that. He said the transmission has new fluid in it and its full. My guess (or hope) is that its the bad o2 sensor and the computer didnt like the readings so it was trying to adjust for it and making it run crappy. any other thoughts?

olivedrabcj7

March 7th, 2005, 10:16

got the jeep this morning....drove like crap....had to shift it manually.......replaced the TPS and it drives like a brand new jeep. im so proud of myself its unbelievable.......doesnt knock, leak or burn oil, shifts all nice and smooth, starts right up every time, all the guages and lights and everything works........the motor looks like its brand new....no grease or oil anywhere on it. i know i know i kick @$$........stay tuned for the build ;)

Big Red

March 7th, 2005, 11:00

Usually whenever people talk about 36s, "cheap" usually isn't in the same sentence. What are you doing for axles and gears?

After 32's or 33's, you step beyond cheap. 31's and a 3" lift of 2" bb is the definition of cheap and very versatile. How do I know? I was there, now I'm going with hp44/9" with all the goodies, 241 Rock Trac Rubicon T-case and 37" mtrs. 7-8" lift

got the jeep this morning....drove like crap....had to shift it manually.......replaced the TPS and it drives like a brand new jeep. im so proud of myself its unbelievable.......doesnt knock, leak or burn oil, shifts all nice and smooth, starts right up every time, all the guages and lights and everything works........the motor looks like its brand new....no grease or oil anywhere on it. i know i know i kick @$$........stay tuned for the build ;)

Good deal on that 97' XJ. Wow. Have fun with it and wheel it like you stole it, because you did. :laugh3:

olivedrabcj7

March 16th, 2005, 21:17

got a few items piling up now

1997 XJ
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v309/maw05/48c210ec.jpg

CV front driveshaft (going to use in the rear with SYE)
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v309/maw05/97XJ007.jpg

rustys 4.5" kit with full leaf packs (no pics yet.....you know what it looks like)

2" BB to go on top of the 4.5" kit
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v309/maw05/97XJ019.jpg

RE drop brackets (braces are still in the mail)
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v309/maw05/97XJ014.jpg

cragar soft 8's
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v309/maw05/97XJ013.jpg

36x12.50 swamper TSL's
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v309/maw05/97XJ008.jpg

wheels and tires mounted
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v309/maw05/97XJ017.jpg

thats all for now...ill get more pics as more stuff comes in!!! i cant WAIT to tear into this thing!!!

Heep

March 17th, 2005, 04:22

Here it is about 9 moths ago at 7" and 36" Iroks, home built LA's http://www.fototime.com/{D9122BEC-38D9-4C03-8F5F-2B2A739AFAF3}/picture.JPG
http://www.fototime.com/{406EC2A2-E4FB-4184-99B7-527EFD6EEAF1}/picture.JPG

Here it is in Moab about 6 months ago in moab same height
http://www.fototime.com/{95711D63-62F9-423D-9436-C63112D2732E}/picture.JPG
http://www.fototime.com/{3F80E792-C8C5-49F1-BF2E-B9CAF5E010FC}/picture.JPG

olivedrabcj7

March 17th, 2005, 07:58

THATS FRIGGIN SWEET!!!! you say its 7" of lift...what brand of lift is that? almost looks like skyjaker 8" coils. got any pictures of how you did the trimming??

Heep

March 17th, 2005, 11:00

Yes they are 8" skyjacker coils. It has settled down about an inch all around. The rear is 6" Bigoffroad leafs and an RE 1.25 shackle.The Long arms are made by me and my buddy. 1.5" tube with .25 wall and Aurora Rod ends everywhere exept the ftrame mounts for LA's which are johnnys. Front end is a waggy D44 with tacked 760's and an Aussie, the rear is a D44 from a ScoutII,trussed with a full spool. 4.88's, OBA (old AC) , AW4 with switch for 1-2 gear, exo cage awaitong interior cage, steel half doors,TJ flares Ramsey 8.5, homemade rear bumper, Rigidco front bumper, boat vents on hood, homemade rock sliders, belly skid from DPG,Camaro rear disc's, warn,15X8" steelies,hubs.some other crap.
Heres some pics of the buildup
HEEP BUILD UP (http://www.fototime.com/inv/4FB4E676EDEC79B)

YETI

March 17th, 2005, 12:14

olivedrabcj7

March 17th, 2005, 13:19

is there a certain reason you trimmed the fenders like this???
http://www.fototime.com/%7B6BCFF9C0-CF7E-43F1-9DCA-9BEDB9BCCD7D%7D/picture.JPG

Ludakris

March 17th, 2005, 14:09

you dont need the BB... 4.5" will do it..
check out my homepage.. I only have 34's, (they measure 33.5) and I am sure I could stuff 36's in there. I have about 4" of lift. the rear you will need to make a couple cuts and beat everything back with a BFH.. especially the rear lower. The front, just cut it way back, and beat the pinch seam over.
If its for the trails you wont care what it looks like.. but make sure its Inspected first (if you need that for tags)... but look at CheapXj's posts.. he has done alot with a little...

olivedrabcj7

March 17th, 2005, 15:59

heres the 4.5" rustys kit (minus control arms) sitting in the back of the jeep
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v309/maw05/97XJ024.jpg

XJ_ranger

March 17th, 2005, 18:30

and away goes cheapxj's throne of low lift big tires

daaaaaam true dat!

XJ_ranger

March 17th, 2005, 19:57

Here it is about 9 moths ago at 7" and 36" Iroks, home built LA's
http://www.fototime.com/%7B406EC2A2-E4FB-4184-99B7-527EFD6EEAF1%7D/picture.JPG

dont ya just love Tuttle creek?

to the origonal poster:

what axles you gonna run them 36's on?

olivedrabcj7

March 17th, 2005, 21:21

stock 30 and 29 spline 8.25 open on both ends with 4.56 gears. thats just until i have the time and money to swap in an 8.8 and 44

Richdaman

March 18th, 2005, 02:07

Here's one with 38's on 3". He had to trim a bit :D

http://www.mustangmods.com/data/13085/crazymofo.2.jpg

Sorry, just popped in and saw this....
That is just plain stupid... I wouldn't be seen with that rig ever!

CONGRATS ON YOUR PURCHASE!!!
Have fun!
Nice lookin XJ!

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11" Lift, Rustys Longarm Kit, OTK Steering, 4.56 Gears, D30/Ford 8.8, Eaton E-Locker (rear), K&N Cold Air Intake, 35X12.50 BFG MT KM's on Eagle Alloy 15X10's, 6-States Driveshaft, Cracked Windshield, tree damage, oxidation...
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Heep

March 18th, 2005, 04:24

is there a certain reason you trimmed the fenders like this???
http://www.fototime.com/%7B6BCFF9C0-CF7E-43F1-9DCA-9BEDB9BCCD7D%7D/picture.JPG

Yeah, thats what the lip of TJ fender flares look like. ITs goofy as hell but thats the way it fits.