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ECKSJAY
February 10th, 2005, 08:32
I'm even thinking a bare housing might be an option at this point. Tossing around this idea because it's time for new tires and I don't want to be limited to the Chrysler 8.25" max of 4.56 gearing. I really want 35s...

So here's my deal. I have a 29-spline 8.25" rear with 4.56 Yukon gears installed, low miles. Appears to only need brake cylinders, which I have (brand new from Carquest, name-brand with CQ packaging). I have not run this since buying it from someone who bought it at the 4x4 swapmeet a couple of years ago. I inspected and lubed everything and checked the gear pattern. I am willing to trade this setup for a 44 with shafts, don't care the condition of brakes or whether there is a carrier/gears installed. Most important is that the housing and shafts are in good shape so that I can pull parts off the shelf and build it immediately.

If uninterested in the 8.25", please PM me with what you have and how much you would like for it. If you are interested in the 8.25" alone send me PM and I'll sort through the mess. Bear in mind I really only want to sell it if I can come up with a 44. ;)

Oh yes, forgot to add that I'm willing to travel as far North as Marysville, South to Olympia/Chehalis....and comparable East and West.

Avanteone
February 10th, 2005, 10:02
I can get you an 8.8 disk brake setup for $300 COMPLETE Phil. It's what I run and have setup for several customers and works great. I'll be putting 4.88's in mine shortly too.

John

cherokeekid
February 10th, 2005, 11:08
keep the 4.56 with 35"s then just pick up one of them atlas transfer cases for your low range :lecture:

oh yeah and skip the 44 and go 60

Matt98XJ
February 10th, 2005, 11:46
John if this 44 deal falls thru, can you hook me up with an 8.8?

red91
February 10th, 2005, 12:18
I can get you an 8.8 disk brake setup for $300 COMPLETE Phil. It's what I run and have setup for several customers and works great. I'll be putting 4.88's in mine shortly too.

John

v-6 or v-8? V-6 8.8 have a smaller spline count.

Avanteone
February 10th, 2005, 12:32
Um, NO. You're wrong. ALL of the '96-'97 and newer explorers with disk brakes (the ones all the Jeep guys are using for swaps) are 31 spline. I've done a half dozen installs on customers rigs and ordered ARB's, Detroits, etc. and never seen any other option. The EARLY 8.8's and the ones in Rangers, F150's, Broncos, Mustangs, etc. can be had with 28 spline, but they're drum brakes and not the ones were using anyways.

John

v-6 or v-8? V-6 8.8 have a smaller spline count.

red91
February 10th, 2005, 13:04
Um, NO. You're wrong. ALL of the '96-'97 and newer explorers with disk brakes (the ones all the Jeep guys are using for swaps) are 31 spline. I've done a half dozen installs on customers rigs and ordered ARB's, Detroits, etc. and never seen any other option. The EARLY 8.8's and the ones in Rangers, F150's, Broncos, Mustangs, etc. can be had with 28 spline, but they're drum brakes and not the ones were using anyways.

John

my bad...product of inacurrate information...

when i look up a 98 explorer it asks me 6 or 8 cyl motor...what would be the PRIMARY difference ?

Avanteone
February 10th, 2005, 13:10
Gear ratio? Although I believe all ratios were available with both engines. One may be more common with a certain engine. No other differences that I know of. When I look up brake pads for a rig, it asks what engine size but still gives me the same part #.

John

red91
February 10th, 2005, 13:15
Gear ratio? Although I believe all ratios were available with both engines. One may be more common with a certain engine. No other differences that I know of. When I look up brake pads for a rig, it asks what engine size but still gives me the same part #.

John

wild. it shows me a completely different part #. the gear ratios are the same for v-6 - v8 though i figured that out.

Now when I look in MITCHELL there are no part differences for anything but pads...BIZZARE...

what else is needed to swap into a cherokee other than spring perches, and shock mounts, ?

Cables, Yoke ..what else ?


I GOT IT. The pin in the carrier from a V8 is larger than the 6. an 8 should provide more strength.

cherokeekid
February 10th, 2005, 13:45
Um, NO. You're wrong. ALL of the '96-'97 and newer explorers with disk brakes (the ones all the Jeep guys are using for swaps) are 31 spline. I've done a half dozen installs on customers rigs and ordered ARB's, Detroits, etc. and never seen any other option. The EARLY 8.8's and the ones in Rangers, F150's, Broncos, Mustangs, etc. can be had with 28 spline, but they're drum brakes and not the ones were using anyways.

John

um NO you wrong it's 95+
:paperwork

ECKSJAY
February 10th, 2005, 16:01
Thanks for the info, guys. Got it figured out. No 44 for me, I'll be keeping what I've got. Got some deals in the works after being encouraged to make a few phone calls. ;) Some goodies will be on their way next week.

Next step (long time from now) will be to a 60 if I swap. :laugh3:

shimmy
February 10th, 2005, 22:07
just go 9". i've got one in the werks... 5.13's and a spool

brandon

ECKSJAY
February 10th, 2005, 22:37
just go 9". i've got one in the werks... 5.13's and a spool

brandon

Meh. That Phord stuff is overrated. :repair:


:laugh3:

Avanteone
February 11th, 2005, 08:06
just go 9". i've got one in the werks... 5.13's and a spool

brandon

Why do YOU need a 9" Brandon? hehehe

Come out and wheel your rig with us, beat it up a little, then figure out what you need :)

Just messin' with you of course!

John

PS - Phil, that goes for you too, put it together and get out on the trails with us and beat it up a little. I've destroyed two rigs in the time you've spent figuring out what you're gonna do! hehehehe

ECKSJAY
February 11th, 2005, 08:13
PS - Phil, that goes for you too, put it together and get out on the trails with us and beat it up a little. I've destroyed two rigs in the time you've spent figuring out what you're gonna do! hehehehe

I learned to wheel before you destroyed those two rigs trying to figure out how, John. ;)

Avanteone
February 11th, 2005, 08:24
Yeah, you know that whole "pushing it to the edge of the envelope" thing? You gotta go over a time or two to learn EXACTLY where it is so you can get closer next time :)

John

ECKSJAY
February 11th, 2005, 08:26
Yeah, you know that whole "pushing it to the edge of the envelope" thing? You gotta go over a time or two to learn EXACTLY where it is so you can get closer next time :)

John

Glad YOU enjoy that. ;) Not really my cup of tea, et al.

shimmy
February 11th, 2005, 10:41
beat it up a little, then figure out what you need :)
Just messin' with you of course!
John


i cut my flares off the other day... does that count as beating on it? hah ha

brandon

John90XJ
February 11th, 2005, 14:36
I learned to wheel before you destroyed those two rigs trying to figure out how, John. ;)

That's a joke, right?

ECKSJAY
February 11th, 2005, 15:17
That's a joke, right?

Of course it is. I knew you couldn't read this without replying. Should give you something else to gossip about. party1:

Congrats, you're the subject of my 1000th post. ;)

red91
February 11th, 2005, 15:25
Of course it is. I knew you couldn't read this without replying. Should give you something else to gossip about. party1:

Congrats, you're the subject of my 1000th post. ;)

for 1001, enlighten us and tell us what you've decided to go with...

ECKSJAY
February 11th, 2005, 16:22
for 1001, enlighten us and tell us what you've decided to go with...

In short, keeping the Chrysler. I'll keep you guys posted on what I end up with for it. :)

dellstopjeep
February 11th, 2005, 17:13
i want a ford 8.8 for 300, to bad i cant afford to swap in 4.56's since that is what i have inmy 30 and 35 combo.
DO u whave to weld on spring perches on those axles cuz i thought they were leaf sprung?

Avanteone
February 11th, 2005, 17:58
They are leaf spring, but they're spring under and ours are spring over. That and the spacing is different, shock mounts are different, etc. I'd sell you my 8.8 ready to bolt in for $1,500, Then I'd just build another with 4.88's :)

i want a ford 8.8 for 300, to bad i cant afford to swap in 4.56's since that is what i have inmy 30 and 35 combo.
DO u whave to weld on spring perches on those axles cuz i thought they were leaf sprung?

John90XJ
February 11th, 2005, 19:05
Should give you something else to gossip about. party1:



SOMETHING to talk about? How about you underestimate yourself....it'll be the only thing we talk about. :gag:

FWIW, keeping your 29 spline 8.25 makes sense. It's pretty strong and in the Northwest we don't abuse them like those that need stronger units.

railroadjeep
February 11th, 2005, 20:40
29 spline 8.25, Detroit locker, ZJ disc's, and 35' MTR's, thats what'll be sitting under the rig soon. For the way I wheel, I dont see the need to get anything bigger.

ECKSJAY
February 11th, 2005, 22:06
SOMETHING to talk about? How about you underestimate yourself....it'll be the only thing we talk about. :gag:

Wha??? :weird:


FWIW, keeping your 29 spline 8.25 makes sense. It's pretty strong and in the Northwest we don't abuse them like those that need stronger units.

Sure is. Haven't heard of anyone breaking one who didn't deserve it. I was blindsided by gear ratio options and was weighing what I wanted to do. Decided a 4.88 R&P wouldn't work (looked at the D30 pinion the other day....yeeeesh) for me since 35s will put a lot of stress on that stuff. Just going to run 33" Swampers until I'm able to get out of state more. It's hard watching everyone else getting invitations out to Avalanche and 21 Road. ;) Ah well, 60's will have to wait for a while...

shimmy
February 11th, 2005, 23:11
29 spline 8.25, Detroit locker, ZJ disc's, and 35' MTR's, thats what'll be sitting under the rig soon. For the way I wheel, I dont see the need to get anything bigger.

and you need to upgrade your LA's, you pussy lol

brandon

railroadjeep
February 12th, 2005, 07:51
and you need to upgrade your LA's, you pussy lol

brandon

Whatd'ya mean? I like wondering about them as I'm driving down the road at 70 MPH?! :laugh3: