Thanks for the help, I'll look into clayton's and other companies. I'll stay the heck away from Rusty's junk. I don't want to sound like an ingrate, but the reason Im cosidering long arms is because I've been having such a hard time with DW. According to a lot of information sources, after having looked at just about everything on the bottom of the jeep, the steep angles on the LCA's could have a something to do with it. And the CA came from Rusty's. Also if you read some of my other threads I've had nothing but trouble with his products. CA, my buddy's steering conversion, shocks,never receiving my parts on time even though I pay for over night shipping. Crusty's is just poor quality.