BlueBears a GONNER!

[DrMoab]

"Bout time they fired that disrepectful little pr!ck. Going to be much better to watch that show now.

[XJJPR]

"Bout time they fired that disrepectful little pr!ck. Going to be much better to watch that show now.


Not till Boyd himself is gone, will that show ever get good!


hinkley

[YETI]

Boyd does throw like a girl. Sensitive like one too.

Wish BB would come back to make him cry again.

[copperhead]

Not till Boyd himself is gone, will that show ever get good!

Add Duane to that list, and I think the shop would be much better. The only decient person in the shop is Charley. I watched a few episodes, and wasn't too thrilled. Then Boyd cut up a beautifull classic Model T, and that was it for me. I can understand modifying an old shell, but that thing was gret shape.

-Copperhead

[Glenn B]

It is on right now here.... looking forward to seeing stupid *round* kid bluebear fired. What a waste. Duane is less than *most useful* IMHO, but hard to tell.

[Glenn B]

Not till Boyd himself is gone, will that show ever get good!


hinkley Agreed on that too. He is an ass, and looks like a guy that is usually on "recreational drugs", and belongs in jail in the first place. Did I say he is an ass yet? :D

Guys like Boyd and Jesse James tend to ruin what for *most* is a healthy hobby.

[hackedxj]

What I find amazing about that show? no one stomps Dwanye, in any other shop he'd be picking himself up out of the floor every thirty minutes.

[Beached Bones]

I used to admire Boyd Coddington hot rods.... that was UNTIL I started watching American Hot Rod. They're pretty much all pricks, show no professionalism, and seem to lack any real skill or insight.

Must be nice to build a car out of entirely pre-made new parts... then outsource for anything that actually needs skill.

[YETI]

Agreed on that too. He is an ass, and looks like a guy that is usually on "recreational drugs", and belongs in jail in the first place. Did I say he is an ass yet? :D

Guys like Boyd and Jesse James tend to ruin what for *most* is a healthy hobby.


Lets not start in on Jesse James!!! Although he kinda sold out, do you blame him!!! $$$$$$$

Plus he still makes the BADDEST BIKES around. (IMO)

[Glenn B]

Lets not start in on Jesse James!!! Although he kinda sold out, do you blame him!!! $$$$$$$

Plus he still makes the BADDEST BIKES around. (IMO)
No, my feelings still stand. He is punk assed rich kid. Sure, he has some skills..... but not much lately it seems.

[d10shun]

Bluebear - Uh, lets see. You have the lucky chance to be on television, millions of people will see you, you are working for a legend, Boyd is letting you build a hot rod for which you have not paid anything for in a fully stocked facility, and YOU'RE GETTING PAID FOR IT! And with all of this, you act like a 12 year old who's been told you can't go to the movies. Bluebear, wrap your lips around a .45!

[copperhead]

Lets not start in on Jesse James!!! Although he kinda sold out, do you blame him!!! $$$$$$$

Plus he still makes the BADDEST BIKES around. (IMO)

Hey, Jessie Didn't sell out, he bought in. [/SLC Punk]

Besides, the BADDEST BIKES around were made when Jessie was still in diapers, many before that.
:cheers:

Copperhead

[ZmOz]

Must be nice to build a car out of entirely pre-made new parts... then outsource for anything that actually needs skill.

Exactly. Any idiot could build the cars they build given their tools and budget. Although the shop is full of idiots, so I guess that proves my point...

[Lou]

Idiots make for good TV.

[w_howey]

If a third of the crap, that dipshit pulled was actually true, he earned it.

If he actually was canned, he is going to find it hard to get another job in a shop in that area. I wouldn't think many HR people are going to give him a second look, with a couple of hours of tape of this guy jacking around in a shop.

[ZmOz]

One thing you have to think about is that they probably edit the hundreds of hours of tape for each show to make him look like a dumbass. Even though every second he's on the show he's acting like an idiot, he's probably not THAT stupid in real life. I still agree that him and most the others on the show are morons, however...

[OT]

One thing you have to think about is that they probably edit the hundreds of hours of tape for each show to make him look like a dumbass. Even though every second he's on the show he's acting like an idiot, he's probably not THAT stupid in real life. I still agree that him and most the others on the show are morons, however...
Every show on DC is rehearsed and edited to get the desired result. IMO DC ruined the reputation of many people. I chose to rename it Redneck TV. Stop watching now before your teeth start falling out.

The OCC fawks, on the other hand, were always a bunch of whiney, snivelling, draft dodging, tools.
Merchant Marines, puhhhleese. Go cry at someone elses wall.

[DrMoab]

Funny....For a bunch of guys who hate Boyd and hate the show you all seem to know alot about it :laugh3: . Yeah boyd can be a prick and Duane can REALLY be a prick but when are sitting at home with nothing to do it makes for pretty good entertainment IMHO.

[OT]

Funny....For a bunch of guys who hate Boyd and hate the show you all seem to know alot about it :laugh3: . Yeah boyd can be a prick and Duane can REALLY be a prick but when are sitting at home with nothing to do it makes for pretty good entertainment IMHO.
Prepare for partial dentures, then. Don't say I didn't warn you.

[DrMoab]

Prepare for partial dentures, then. Don't say I didn't warn you.
I could be watching some hunting show Ted Nugent puts on....Or Bass fishing...Thats real redneck TV. :laugh3: :laugh3:

[bchulett]

I've been in his shop several times ... its right down the street from the office. For a guy that's been bankrupt a couple of times he emerged again just when the market was ripe for building Rods.

And with all the celebrity status that may change. A few weeks ago the state of California payed him a visit and uncovered some illegal acts. There was a big spread in the local paper regarding the pending investigation. It appears he's been using some interstate loophole to register those new '32 Fords as used vehicles.

How do you think he's been getting around the fed and state emission/safety standards ?

[DrMoab]

How do you think he's been getting around the fed and state emission/safety standards ?
Anybody that can figure out how to get around emission standards is ok in my book. It seems so stupid that you should have to worry about emissions standards on a 32 ford whether its just built or72 years old. Kalifornia and the other states that make such a big deal out of it need to sink in the ocean anyway.

[bchulett]

I guess my point is Boyd doesn't have the best reputation among car builders around here ... when you file bankruptcy twice in a career you screw people along the way. His creations aren't that great for the $150-$200K it takes to get a car through his shop.

There are more advanced designers and builders like Chip Foose that have class and integrity on and off camera.

[DrMoab]

There are more advanced designers and builders like Chip Foose that have class and integrity on and off camera.
Have to agree with you on Chip...Watched a show on him....Quite a guy. Very humble which doesn't usualy follow a guy with that much talent.
Now if he would only feel sorry for me and give me one of his rides.... :laugh3:

[bchulett]

I didn't even know who Chip Foose was until recently. I stopped in a shop in Huntington Beach about 9 months ago to inquire about some vintage AR wheels. So this guy standing behind the counter that watched me drive in greets me and says "cool XJ you got there".

We chatted about XJ's and then got into a discussion about the vintage AR mags I'm looking for ... and other muscle car restoration stuff. I didn't have a clue who I was talking to at the time. The guy is very down to earth ... took my number and said he would call me if he found the AR wheels.

Yes I agree, he is very humble.

Not to rag on Boyd, he doesn't even attend his own car shows at his shop once a month---I guess he doesn't want to be seen with common folk.

Have to agree with you on Chip...Watched a show on him....Quite a guy. Very humble which doesn't usualy follow a guy with that much talent.
Now if he would only feel sorry for me and give me one of his rides.... :laugh3:

[hackedxj]

Charlie's a gonner! Just saw Charlie, Boyd's painter on the show "Rides".They're were doing the show at Chip Foose's shop.Chip introduced him as his new painter ,said he'd been there 3 weeks and had worked at another "local shop". I think Charlie made an excellent choice, he'll definately be hard to replace.

[Urban Redneck]

Charlie's a gonner! Just saw Charlie, Boyd's painter on the show "Rides".They're were doing the show at Chip Foose's shop.Chip introduced him as his new painter ,said he'd been there 3 weeks and had worked at another "local shop". I think Charlie made an excellent choice, he'll definately be hard to replace.


Foose is going to pull all the good talent out of Boyd's place. Can't believe that Foose worked for Boyd in the first place.

[DrMoab]

Charlie's a gonner! Just saw Charlie, Boyd's painter on the show "Rides".They're were doing the show at Chip Foose's shop.Chip introduced him as his new painter ,said he'd been there 3 weeks and had worked at another "local shop". I think Charlie made an excellent choice, he'll definately be hard to replace.
Wow! I thought Charlie was the best guy Boyd had....Too Bad for him! I know that Charlie was getting sick of the crap that was going on around Boyds shop so it doesn't suprise me.

[bchulett]

He'll be replaced. Boyd may be a jerk but he's not stupid. There are B&P shops all around here that have talented painters and would enjoy the salary increase working for Boyd... not to mention it looks good on the resume.

Boyd probably has head hunters scouting for painters in every state.

[MaXJohnson]

you'se guys sound like a bunch of women talking about their favorite soap opera or the latest Dr. Phil episode.


Ok, so I watch all of these shows too. IMO, Jesse is a punk. He thinks it's cool to drop 20 or 30K on a project and then trash it(example: Bronco rock crawler). I hate to see that when I look to my scrap pile to build a bumper. Paul Sr. is entertaining, though the "rag on junior" routine is getting old.

These shows are a great way to check out some fabrication techniques. I've been thinking of getting a shot bag lately and seeing one in use is cool.

Nice to see Jason Priestly doing well after slamming his race car into the wall and totaling his brains.

[Ludakris]

I hated that kid.. if someone financed my ride, I would box what ever the hell he wanted me too... I would rather drive a car with boxed rails than push a car with out boxed rails..
Boyd is a prick, so is dwayne (short mans disease), charlie is cool. The old guy is hilarious, he just doesnt care.
Lots of these shows just show how you can polish crap and find a sucker to buy it.. I give JJ credit.. he got popular and sold out.. i know i would, but he still builds his stuff.. he doesnt just buy parts, slap them on and call it a custom. But how do you get so much credit building a bike.. it only has 2 wheels, and is air cooled... they are sooooo simple.. how do they charge over $100 grand for these things...

:soapbox:

[XJJPR]

He'll be replaced. Boyd may be a jerk but he's not stupid. There are B&P shops all around here that have talented painters and would enjoy the salary increase working for Boyd... not to mention it looks good on the resume.

Boyd probably has head hunters scouting for painters in every state.


I would almost bet Boyd pays less than most GOOD body shops.

hinkley

[bchulett]

You're probably right. When that shop when in, it was my understanding the equipment wasn't even his due to past credit problems, and most of it was used to begin with...

And I'm fairly positive he doesn't own the buildings ... I believe that whole complex is still owned and leased by Dickenson Lumber.

I would almost bet Boyd pays less than most GOOD body shops.

hinkley

[Jeff in VA]

I lost all respect for Mr. Coddington during the episode that he did a monkey-nut job trying to cut a hole in the firewall for the steering column. It was bad enough what he did, but then the "crew" rigged up his hack job by redrilling it and slapping some metal over his screwup...and some poor SOB prolly gave him $75 grand for the vehicle.
Oh, and as far as Monster garage goes :puke: I could watch Billy Lane all day long, tho. Truly a fabricator in my book.
Jeff

[hackedxj]

I'd like to see that show moved over to Troy Trapanyea's(spelling guess) shop, he's been on with Chip Foose a few times. He focuses on updating suspensions and ridiculous H.P.. that's streetable. he built the 1200 h.p. twin turbo Biscane Impala and the all wheel drive 32 Ford....jaw dropping!

[Lore5]

Charlie's a gonner! Just saw Charlie, Boyd's painter on the show "Rides".They're were doing the show at Chip Foose's shop.Chip introduced him as his new painter ,said he'd been there 3 weeks and had worked at another "local shop". I think Charlie made an excellent choice, he'll definately be hard to replace.

Yeh, I saw that episodeof Rides last night too and I thought the painter looked really farmiliar. Then I realized he was Boyd's painter. I thought it was great he went over with Chip. I can't stand Boyd.

[bchulett]

That would be Troy Trepanier from Rad Rides ... and yes he does some very fine work. In fact, I've seen nicer customs come out of small boutiques, than I have from well-known builders like Boyd's.

A couple years ago at a local concourse event I attended (The Muckenthaler), there was an unassuming guy and his wife that owned a small b&p shop in Burbank Ca. The owner built a chopped, channeled, narrowed and stretched silver colored '32 with a v12 Jag motor---he spent ten years building this car from scratch. Boyd had one of his cookie cutter 32's he just sold to a customer in the event also.

Needless to say that home brewed '32 won best of show---the guy that just spent $200K at Boyd's was no where to be seen.

Even Chip Foose would have been impressed.

There is life after Boyd Coddington.

[biscuitboy87]

i tend to agree.
jesse has some skills, but his attitude sucks...of course if i was getting the same money i'd sell out too, just so i could disappear into life after it was all over...and it wil end. that matt hotchkiss guy impressed me (HOTMATCH) with his value for family and inventive ideas.

boyds got a shop with all the tools (get it tools?), but i have to give credit to his machine guy and the unassuming welder guy. charlie? the painter was a pretty even character as well. i dont watch anymore because of the "incredible deadline" thing that seem to occure out of nowhere. get your shit together.

Foose seems down to earth, but i think his skilles are learned from his pops. of course getting the cnc products that can turn out a rim in five minutes helps the bottom line...wish my credit wasnt in the toilet...unfortunatly i'm kinda hot and cold on his artistry and putting 20's on a barracuda is silly. i mean if it was a 'cuda plum crazy with shaker hood it would have written him personally to say "take a step back dude!"

to the main point of blue bear...some opportunities in life shouldn't be wasted and it take a fool to let them go by...honestly, i thought he was boyds illegitimate son or something because of the disregard for the shop...i would have canned him long ago...but it is just TV right?

the show i like to watch most is monster house. some boring and some full of people whom have skills. that gadget guy wowed me with his homemade bender with the big wheel...hmmm i wish i could see that one again for instructions.

OCC...don't get me started. the only one with real brains is mikey. he's living on the coattails and loving life. actually, kudos to JR for putting up with dad, some fab talent (there are others there though), and decent ideas. then again if my shop was as well equipped, i coud do it too.

geeze long enough?
Nim

[dyna]

Boydd`s an A hole,from what Ive seen he couldent put together a lawn mower, If it wasent for all the shop guys hard work he wouldent be shit. There are a couple of brothers from FL. I think who build bikes like JJs, these 2 guys do everything from paint to machining, thats talent, not buying a box full of parts and slapin em together. Its all so commercial these days, but thats $$$$$$$ for ya. suppose I might do the same. Even Ozzie is goin weak these days. Whats the world commin too???

[bchulett]

I think his education from the Art Center in Pasadena Ca. has helped a bit too. It just happens to be the hotbed for advanced automotive design ... on a global scale.

Didn't you know that's where the XJ was hatched ? ... or should I say hacked ? :laugh3:

Foose seems down to earth, but i think his skilles are learned from his pops.

[XJHOX]

I havent seen Boyds show to much, but every time I watch it it seems like theres kids right out high school there working. Is it that easy to get a job in some place like that on the west coast? or is he that much of a prick that no one will work for him?

[DrMoab]

Had to revive this thread after seeing the last American Hot Rod.
Boyd is 100% A$$Hole! I hope Charly makes twice the money and gets twice the recognition working for Chip Foose.
Can't belive Boyd would treat him the way he did because he quit.

[old_man]

I think the reason you don't see to many quality older fab'ers working for Boyd is that they simply won't put up with the BS and the stupid schedules. I know the schedules are somewhat for the TV crowd to create a aura of will he or won't he make it, but schedules like that are a classic sign of poor management. People are not a commodity to be used up, they are an asset.

That shop foreman would be eating a crescent wrench if he ever went off on me that way.

[Glenn B]

Boyd really looked bad in his handling of that. I can understand being upset or dissapointed, but he was really a jerk.

Must be why Duane is still there. That shorty has issues.

[old_man]

Treating employee's like sh** and then every once in a while throwing them a bone like a bikini judging contest is just a sign of a warped perspective on life. Money isn't a good motivator, neither are threats and intimidation. What people want is simple. They want a decent place to work and some appreciation for the work they do, along with with a few challenges.

That one guy that got fired because he wouldn't put up with Blueberry's taunting would have a slam dunk case for harrassment. He should have just accidentally clipped him up side the head with a drive shaft or some other heavy blunt object.

[hackedxj]

I think Boyd is just worried about Boyd! He's always talking about all the cars he's built, when they get in a crunch for time why don't he pick up a wrench and help? I've never seen him touch anything.

[DrMoab]

I think Boyd is just worried about Boyd! He's always talking about all the cars he's built, when they get in a crunch for time why don't he pick up a wrench and help? I've never seen him touch anything.
what do you mean??? He was the first one to turn the key on that woodie they built.
I won't watch the show anymore(yeah I will) because the biggest thing I got a kick out of was watching Charlie work....That guy is a true artist.

[old_man]

I like the old guy. Great attitude. He has more knowledge and experience in his little finger than the rest of them combined.

[DrMoab]

I like the old guy. Great attitude. He has more knowledge and experience in his little finger than the rest of them combined.
Mike...The funny looking guy. He is really smart too. Even though he looks like a goof.

[redsand187]

Mike is a really cool guy. He was in a very bad car accident on the salt flats and has a bunch of plates in his face. He went through extensive reconstructive surgery. He is a good friend of Boyd's son, whom was in the same accident.

I haven't watched much of the show, but it seems like most of the guys are asses. The painter seems pretty cool. It's good that he is working for someone that really knows what they are doing. That place is a joke. I'd never buy a new Coddington Custom. I don't even know the answer, (but I have a good idea) but yhe question is... How many Riddler Cars has Boyd built... WITHOUT Chip Foose?

As for the other shows. I think Jesse is a genius. He can build an amazing bike, he can do it all himself, and all in house if he chooses. He actually makes his parts himself. Infact, most "Custom" bikes use West Coast Customs parts. Even the all-mighty OCC uses WCC fenders. Jesse has sold out, because that is what he wants to do. He has always said that he wants to do all that he can. He wants to act, he wants to learn everything he can, he wants to live life from every angle.

The fact is Jesse was loaded before TV came along. His shop was the fastest growing shop in the country at the time the first motorcycle mania was filmed. That wasn't even ten years after he started WCC in the corner of someone elses shop with less then 25,000 bucks. The TV fame and money is just gravy. He knows how to build a business, he put all his money back into the business and owns pretty much everything outright.

He still builds awesome bikes at somewhat affordable prices. He is probably the cheapest bike builder that has been featured on the Discovery Channel. Why? Because he "loses" money on every custom bike that he builds. He builds custom bikes to his satisfaction, and he charges 50-65,000 dollars for them, even if there is 200 hours in Milling time to get the right parts. He doesn't care, because he is putting his name on it, so he wants it to be perfect. He makes his money off of his parts, not his choppers.

OCC, it's alright. Jr. pisses me off. He has let everything go to his head. He isn't that great of a fab'er. His designs aren't anything that special, he buys half of the parts for bikes. He makes his dad pay other people to actually make the things work. (Vinnie and Campo) Jr. is just a premodonna, he deserves all the shit his dad gives him. If it wasn't for his rich daddy, he would be a bum like his brother Mikey was. I love Mikey, he doesn't care about all the crap. He knows how to have fun, and he doesn't have an additude. Vinnie seems like a really nice guy, it's too bad he has to work with a retard.

[XJFreak]

what do you mean??? He was the first one to turn the key on that woodie they built.
I won't watch the show anymore(yeah I will) because the biggest thing I got a kick out of was watching Charlie work....That guy is a true artist.


I wonder if Beetle will go with Charlie. Charlie worked his guts out on that woodie, touching up paint even as it drove away. He is an artist that will land on his feet. Boyd will not replace him anytime soon. Boyd was a jerk for the way he acted to Charlie. Charlie even said he needed a break and would come back, but Boyd was too far bent out of shape to listen. My question, Why is that bald jerk still around. He doesn't give anyone credit for doing their job, he just whines and cusses and such. I think he has little man syndrome.

[bchulett]

It may be that .. but also may very well be that he was successful in the Hot Rod biz well before it was fashionable. I don't really like the guy myself ... and he's arrogant as hell ... but he seems to have used his name recognition to get what he wants.

Some people are humble ... then there are those that believe they're god-like to the automotive world.

My question, Why is that bald jerk still around. He doesn't give anyone credit for doing their job, he just whines and cusses and such. I think he has little man syndrome.

[Grant]

I think the show will do more harm to Boyd C than good. Who would want to spend that amount of $$$ for a Rod once you have seen the quality of work that goes into it?

Rushed schedules make good TV, but also make lousy quality control.

And Boyd C screwed over a lot of people when he went bust a decade ago. Never affected him too badly, but a few partners got really burned, and employees took a big hit. F - him.

[DrMoab]

Wondering something else. Did anyone notice how upset Boyds wife was that Charlie was leaving? Makes me wonder if they had anything going on behind the scenes.
(Tune in next week on NAXJA Once life to live to see the exciting outcome)

[hackedxj]

Wondering something else. Did anyone notice how upset Boyds wife was that Charlie was leaving? Makes me wonder if they had anything going on behind the scenes.
(Tune in next week on NAXJA Once life to live to see the exciting outcome)
Poor Charlie, I'd say Boyd put that responsiblity on him too,.....lol

[DrMoab]

Poor Charlie, I'd say Boyd put that responsiblity on him too,.....lol
You know who I kinda feel sorry for is Boyds Ex...Can you imagine being that ugly...working for your EX....and having his cute new wife working there too?
She must be pretty stupid to stay there.

[old_man]

I have a feeling that she is there to protect her alimony check.

[Beezil]

I think amarosa is a crazy bitch.

[bchulett]

Yea ... being with him through two bankruptcies, she has a good reason to take over as corporate controller, overseeing accounting and procurment activities. I bet she owns 51% of the company.

Maybe that's why he is so damn miserable ... he's owned by two women that doesn't give him sex.

[Clean Racing]

Boyd is an IDIOT.... he was 10 years ago and still is.. and an EGO-maniac to boot... Everyone that has worked for him over the years and left has gone on to bigger and better. Look at Foose, Budnik, ect...all doing a ton better than Boyd... I think Charlie will land a better job than Coddington could ever offer... oh well just my .02 worth...

[bchulett]

LOL ... maybe I can bust his EGO by printing this thread out and on the way home from work, drop it in his mailbox.

Boyd is an IDIOT.... he was 10 years ago and still is.. and an EGO-maniac to boot... Everyone that has worked for him over the years and left has gone on to bigger and better. Look at Foose, Budnik, ect...all doing a ton better than Boyd... I think Charlie will land a better job than Coddington could ever offer... oh well just my .02 worth...

[hackedxj]

LOL ... maybe I can bust his EGO by printing this thread out and on the way home from work, drop it in his mailbox.
I double dare ya! ......put it in an envelope and sign it "Charlie"

[DrMoab]

I double dare ya! ......put it in an envelope and sign it "Charlie"
HA!....yup thats what needs to happen.

[ZmOz]

LOL ... maybe I can bust his EGO by printing this thread out and on the way home from work, drop it in his mailbox.

He'd never read it...do you think he actually does any office work there? Some employee who already hates him would find it first...