Moab is for sale?

Ludakris · Sep 17, 2004

My buddy just got back from Moab and said the Lions Back is for sale with some surrounding area and camp ground. All this for the small sum of $700K and change. So I figure with almost 1000 members, that's like $800 a piece....

TRNDRVR · Sep 18, 2004

Well then, I make the motion that NAXJA

buys it. I'm good for my share.
Anybody else want to second it?
Dan.

ECKSJAY · Sep 18, 2004

TRNDRVR said:
Well then, I make the motion that buys it. I'm good for my share.
Anybody else want to second it?
Dan.

I would.

We could set up the ' NAXJA

Barracks' for lodging when we're visiting home away from home.

imma honky · Sep 18, 2004

You got my green.

OT · Sep 18, 2004

I'm in.

logdog · Sep 18, 2004

Me too

PC-UT-XJ · Sep 18, 2004

Are you guys for real or just kinda throwing around an idea? This could not only be a great headquarters during NAXJA

events, but could reel in some cash when we're not using it. BTW I'm in.

YELLAHEEP · Sep 18, 2004

Sounds like a great idea! But how big a hassle would it be having 1000 owners for one piece of property...... There'd be very little chance that everyone would ever be in total agreement with what to do with the property. But yer right, it'd be cool for a 4x4 club to own that property. I believe that same land owner owns Dump Bump - wonder if that's included in the Lion's Back property.......

motorman · Sep 18, 2004

I'm in. How much land is it? I need a retirement site

Ludakris · Sep 27, 2004

YELLAHEEP said:
Sounds like a great idea! But how big a hassle would it be having 1000 owners for one piece of property...... There'd be very little chance that everyone would ever be in total agreement with what to do with the property. But yer right, it'd be cool for a 4x4 club to own that property. I believe that same land owner owns Dump Bump - wonder if that's included in the Lion's Back property.......

well, I think the way to do it is to devide it up like a grid, Then get some lawyers involved. You would technically own the piece of land, and have a "deed" to it, but would not be able to develop or anything like that. There are companies that do thing like this, I think Jack Daniels sells "land" to its customers, and you can buy property on the moon, so I think this would work out great. If this is what it would take to save "offroad" parks, then I think it should be done. I know a club has bought other parts of Moab because of the same reasons. And all of us are in other clubs, I am sure the money could be raised fairly easily by someone who has some experiance with this. Any retired realistate lawyers out there????

Roxtar · Sep 27, 2004

Ludakris said:
well, I think the way to do it is to devide it up like a grid

OK, I've got dibs on the 1st 6" of Lion's Back. That way, if any of you a$$holes pi$$ me off, I'll just put up a gate.

Beezil · Sep 27, 2004

forget about the land deal.

none of us could afford the liability.

hjeepxj · Sep 28, 2004

kid4lyf said:
OK, I've got dibs on the 1st 6" of Lion's Back. That way, if any of you a$$holes pi$$ me off, I'll just put up a gate.

:laugh:

BornAgainXJer · Sep 28, 2004

Ludakris said:
My buddy just got back from Moab and said the Lions Back is for sale with some surrounding area and camp ground. All this for the small sum of $700K and change. So I figure with almost 1000 members, that's like $800 a piece....

Actually it would be $1,150 a person there is only 600 current members

MJR · Sep 28, 2004

The current folks there lease the land.

JayDee · Sep 30, 2004

kid4lyf said:
OK, I've got dibs on the 1st 6" of Lion's Back. That way, if any of you a$$holes pi$$ me off, I'll just put up a gate.

I'd rather put one like 3/4 the way up......

old_man · Oct 1, 2004

RS2477 would have a little to say about putting up that gate.

casm · Oct 1, 2004

Been a bit slow on the uptake on this, but here's my $0.02 regardless...

YELLAHEEP said:
Sounds like a great idea! But how big a hassle would it be having 1000 owners for one piece of property...... There'd be very little chance that everyone would ever be in total agreement with what to do with the property.

Run it like a business. You've got an elected board responsible to the shareholders, and shareholders with the ability to place a vote of no confidence in the board based on a two-thirds quorum. This way everyone can hold an equal stake (one share) and vote, executive power can be maintained based on the shareholders' vote, but executive power can't be abused as long as a clear majority of the shareholders disagree with the board's decisions. Not perfect and certainly up for debate, but probably usable as a framework for further consideration if we're really serious about this.

But yer right, it'd be cool for a 4x4 club to own that property.

I'd like to get the specifics worked out a bit more first, but I'm definitely interested in the idea.

XJJPR · Oct 1, 2004

MJR said:
The current folks there lease the land.

This right, all they are selling is the rights to the lease. It is a 99 year lease, or just short of there.

hinkley

JohnJohn · Oct 3, 2004

I vote we buy it/lease it and then:

- sell the obstacle to Disney and let them paint Simba's head above it on the rock...
- lets take all 99 years and cut Crazy Horses likeness in the rock...
- lets carve the founding fathers of NAXJA

in the stone, then Nay can say he actually IS on a trail/obstacle.

ummm. I'm full of good ideas.

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