has anyone ever put their stock (body) XJ on it's side?!?!

[dork]

k so here's what i mean....

if yer jeep is modified in the suspansion and tires etc... but the body and structure is stock... have you ever rold it...

like yer wheeling and you slowly get on too much of an angle and it just flops over?! i have a couple of buddy's with TJ's that have done this.. roll it back over... replace the mirror and it's good as new!!!

are we XJ guys without a cage out of luck if this happens to us!!???

[dennisuello]

check with Capt. Nemo. he just flopped his XJ about two months ago on the Rubicon.

[Jes]

has anyone ever put their stock (body) XJ on it's side?!?!

Yes.

[Ramsey]

and...

[Jes]

and...

I scratched and dented my fender.

[Ramsey]

pop it back over and keep truckin, suprised no broke glass

[Roll-over]

pop it back over and keep truckin, suprised no broke glass


the "4X4" emblem must have broken the fall! :D

[tchase]

yup, flopped over in a washout. flopped it back onto it's wheels, popped the mirror back on and continued on my way (for about 30 feet then blew the hub, good day of wheelin'). Small crease down the side of the body but no real damage, didn't even scratch it. Mind you this was in wet clay.

Tony

[Lawn Cher']

Depends on the terrain, speed of rollover, etc. When I rolled mine in Tellico in July '01, I dented most of the driver side, lost the trunk glass on that side and had to replace the roof... not quite a perfect truck anymore, but it doesn't look all that bad. The roof damage was mostly from the tire mounted up there, BTW, and the glass was knocked out from the inside by improperly stowed gear. The bottom line is there are alot of variables involved, so you can't generally say it will be okay or not. I did drive mine afterwards, though, so it depends on your definition of "okay."

[Capt. Nemo]

You mean like this???

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v202/muddyjeep1/on_side.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v202/muddyjeep1/underside.jpg

[basalt51]

I heard it wasn't possible to flip an XJ. that picture's fake! Just look at the date and time on it. Clearly fotochopped! I tried rolling mine and it didn't even come close and that was at my brother's house where the curbs are twice as tall as at my house.

[old_man]

http://www.4x4getaways.com/XJ_Roll_1.jpg

That is the reason for the avitar.

[evilpresence]

I heard it wasn't possible to flip an XJ. that picture's fake! Just look at the date and time on it. Clearly fotochopped! I tried rolling mine and it didn't even come close and that was at my brother's house where the curbs are twice as tall as at my house.


Although the date and time are the exact same (very fishy), the 2nd pic has shadows under the tires and rockers.


As for the old_man picture, that looks pretty real if you ask me.

[GSequoia]

http://www.4x4getaways.com/XJ_Roll_1.jpg

That is the reason for the avitar.
That one rock in taht area just HAD to find your windshield, didn't it?

[HTeK]

Dont be fooled... you dont need "modified suspension and tires" to flop... I managed to dump my basically stock XJ. I came out luckier than most with only a trashed driver door...

It looked a little sumpthin like this:
http://usera.imagecave.com/HTeK/flop2.jpg

[yellowxj]

http://img44.exs.cx/img44/5300/1-1newyeardayride035.jpg
http://img44.exs.cx/img44/9923/1-1newyeardayride38.jpg
mine has a cage now...had to have it to keep the body straight so it wouldnt flex and break the new windshield...I think it suffered more in the recovery...we dropped it once... :doh:

[OT]

You guys are spending way to much time on chopping those photos. Everybody knows that XJs are the hardest vehicles to turn over.

Just ask Beezil, he's almost flopped his XummJ? numerous times.

[JohnJohn]

http://www.4x4getaways.com/XJ_Roll_1.jpg

That is the reason for the avitar.

Tom,

Did that "windshield remover" rock save your life? It looks like there is a drop off on the driverside. Is that right?

[SeanP]

I flopped mine in moab, but certainly not stock.

jeepfreak21 flopped his 96 right after he bought it.

C'mon billy I know you have pics on your old directory. They're right next to the ones of you in the disco pants. Let's see, I have those somewhere here...

[DeadEyeJ]

Yeah, that looks a heckuva lot like Moab Rim. If so, there is a "slight decline in the grade" a little way past that rock...

Or is it over near the Lion's Back?

Jared:patriot:

[Capt. Nemo]

I heard it wasn't possible to flip an XJ. that picture's fake! Just look at the date and time on it. Clearly fotochopped! I tried rolling mine and it didn't even come close and that was at my brother's house where the curbs are twice as tall as at my house.

LOL! You caught me! I thought for sure, I'd get away with it! It is impossible to flip an XJ. If you look closely, the long arms and Flowmaster are photo-chopped too... XJ's are so dynamically stable in modified form that they resemble weebles "they wobble, but they don't fall down!"

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v202/muddyjeep1/weeble.jpg

[ECKSJAY]

http://www.wagoneers.com/XJ/rigs/Paul-Weitlauf/images/d98-3.jpg

Oooooolllld pic. :)

[Kevin3151]

Red ones tend to do this more often.
Scroll down the page a bit to see the damage and "flop"

http://members.cox.net/hedstroms/kevin.htm

I threw some new glass in it, replaced a broken door handle, removed the headliner and pushed the roof dents out a bit and I still drive it today. It is just fine.

KH

[GSequoia]

Red ones tend to do this more often.
That's a MYTH I tell you!

Sequoia
Red and proud!

[CheapXJ]

no, it's true, red ones do flop more often.

mine WAS red when I flopped it, I painted it black, and it hasn't flopped since! (there's always been trees in the way, and they've caused more damage though)

[Brian Carpenter]

I have purposefully rolled three over to pull the engine assembly (believe-you-me, its easier than with a hoist and such) I winch them over and push them back never off a cliff or anything, but there hasn't ever been any damage to them. Doors work after, windows still intact. Never really cared about the paint, but I'll personally vouch for the mirror thing above.

[wilsmick]

I rolled mine into a hole about a year ago. Landed it right on the roof.
Winch + BFH + Glass = good as new. I mean the lines aren't straight or anything, but all the doors still open and it still runs. I guess it's kinda banged up, but most people would never guess it was rolled. I payed $3000 for it in 99, then when i rolled it, the insurance company payed out $4400 for it. But they also sold me back the "salvage" for $300 and I payed $120 for the new glass.
"So I'v got that goin for me.... which is nice."

[C-ROK]

Nope, never onto it's side.
I skipped that and went straight over backwards onto the lid.
http://members.cox.net/ggavel/Over.bmp

This is what it looks like going...........
http://members.cox.net/ggavel/Going.bmp

[Goatman]

Yup. And like Old Man, there was a poorly placed rock in the way. I did wheel it the rest of the weekend, since I rolled it on Friday, and drove it home.

Now, it looks a little different. Insurance money helped.

http://fototime.com/0D571F5DEB1DF4F/standard.jpg
http://fototime.com/F4D14AB417773CD/standard.jpg
http://fototime.com/F27CBA14F85AAAD/standard.jpg
http://fototime.com/1FBA27A3B268412/standard.jpg
http://fototime.com/D2996D70A28568C/standard.jpg

[dork]

AWESOME replies guys!

sweet pics too.. i was just concerned because of the unibody that the XJ just wouldn't hold up to it... like the body would be REALLY twisted.... i've been close a couple of times! but it's my daily driver so i need it to get to work/school on monday all the time!! :thumbup:

thanks everyone!!

[old_man]

That flop was at the Z turn on Moab Rim. Not a hard obstacle, but if you loose your power steering on the way down, it gets a bit tricky missing the hole at the bottom of that ledge. That rock took out a lot more than just a windshield. It took a week of body work in the evenings to put the top back where it was supposed to be.

The funny thing is that I drove it home with the top crushed down. When I got home and checked the web, they were laughing about some dumb sob that they saw tooling down I-70 with the top crushed down. :wave:

[red91]

You mean like this???

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v202/muddyjeep1/on_side.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v202/muddyjeep1/underside.jpg


nice longarm kit and exhuast though...ouch.

[C-ROK]

You mean like this???

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v202/muddyjeep1/on_side.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v202/muddyjeep1/underside.jpg
Is this at the Soup Bowl on the Rubicon?

[woody]

http://www.sb-host.com/imagehost/data/3005/5Flop_1-med.jpg

Taking the high & dry line, blew the LF bead on that little rock in the left foreground

Slop Flop :D it broke the header panel in the middle, and the LF and RR quarters got a scuffing. It 'might' have led to the steering box breaking loose a month or so later :dunno:

I didn't build it to be nice to...

[Capt. Nemo]

Is this at the Soup Bowl on the Rubicon?

Yes, that's the Soup Bowl. I was trying a different line (some call it the "Soup Kitchen") and went over pretty quick. Despite the controversy, these photos are legit, not photo-chopped whatsoever. There's a video of the flop floating around somewhere if you do a search.

[Blackash132]

nice looking body work there goatman!!:clap:

[Warthog]

Just flopped mine last Sat. play'n in the sand!
the real bad part was my dad dislocating his shoulder when we hit.

http://groups.msn.com/vegasoffroad/davesroll.msnw?Page=1

[mission-inc]

Kinda a newbie question and sorry for the hijack, but how do you get insurance money for flipping your own jeep...? What kind of coverage do you have?


Oh and nice pictures guys, keep em comin' :conceited

[Goatman]

Kinda a newbie question and sorry for the hijack, but how do you get insurance money for flipping your own jeep...? What kind of coverage do you have?


Oh and nice pictures guys, keep em comin' :conceited

We've had this question asked before.....please bear with my sarcasm. :)

I can never figure out why so many people think there is a problem if you wreck your rig while wheeling. The insurance company can't, and won't, deny you coverage because you weren't on a paved street. No policy has an offroad exlusion, if they did the policy wouldn't meet the bank's requirement for coverage to protect the bank's collateral if you have a loan on your Jeep. Think about it.......

If you were driving down a dirt road, going camping, fishing, exploring, whatever, and rolled it or had an accident you would be covered....wouldn't you? Are you not covered just because you're in 4wheel drive and the road is kind of rough? Think about it.......

If you are on the hardest of hard rock crawling trails, the claims person that you talk to when you report your rollover and open a claim has no way of comprehending what you were actually doing, IF you tried to explain it to them. 4wheeling to them means about the same as it means to most people who have never been exposed to what we do......they think it's putting it in 4wd on some rutted road or desert wash. Even if they DID understand what we do, it still has no effect on the coverage. You pay your premiums and you have your coverage.......nothing special. Think about it......

:rolleyes:

[C-MuRdaA]

http://www.av4x4.com/MABELL/images/MICHELE2%20178.jpg

http://www.av4x4.com/MABELL/images/MICHELE2%20193.jpg


Made about a 3 hour drive home after that.

[jjmat3]

Nope, never onto it's side.
I skipped that and went straight over backwards onto the lid.
http://members.cox.net/ggavel/Over.bmp

This is what it looks like going...........
http://members.cox.net/ggavel/Going.bmp

How well did the Exo hold up? Damn nice XJ! Anyone have pics of caged XJ's that rolled and how well they held up?

[dennisuello]

There's a video of the flop floating around somewhere if you do a search.

here's the video: http://f1.pg.briefcase.yahoo.com/bc/dennisuello/lst?.dir=/Rubicon+Videos

Eric, just take the doors off completely. :D it will lighten the jeep, so it won't go over as easily...

[sarvermr]

just had my first flop yesterday. i barely dented my front and rear fenders where the flares smashed into the body. she had no problem making the 1.5 hr drive home. i don't think my girlfriend will ever go wheeling with me again.

http://memimage.cardomain.net/member_img_a/242380_353_full.jpg

http://memimage.cardomain.net/member_img_a/242380_356_full.jpg

[Gojeep]

Just flopped mine last Sat. play'n in the sand!
the real bad part was my dad dislocating his shoulder when we hit.

http://groups.msn.com/vegasoffroad/davesroll.msnw?Page=1
Well at the least now the windshield sticker now is appropiate ;)

[Warthog]

Well at the least now the windshield sticker now is appropiate ;)


yea, mine was the pretty little princess of our club.......now it just looks like all the others.
funny part was my dad saying how he saw stars after we hit......i told him no that wasn't stars, it was all my friends taking pictures!
everyone's first comment after seeing the damage was "cage it and chop the top dude"........Total Karnage or not...i plan on repairing the damage.


i like being a pretty little princess :)

[batavus]

I didn't want to dent up the sides. So I went for the roof instead.

http://www.tildesoftware.com/philip/pics/go-4s/lhc_newyears20030101/DSCF0033.JPG

[JEONLYEP]

I didn't want to dent up the sides. So I went for the roof instead.

http://www.tildesoftware.com/philip/pics/go-4s/lhc_newyears20030101/DSCF0033.JPG

Is that a stop action shot of it in progress? or did it stand up like that?

[XJ_ranger]

I didn't want to dent up the sides. So I went for the roof instead.

http://www.tildesoftware.com/philip/pics/go-4s/lhc_newyears20030101/DSCF0033.JPG
how fast do you have to be going to do this? what made you roll!?!

[Ramsey]

i've seen that pic before and just could not figure out how you got it like that.

[Captain Ron]

XJ Matt might be able to participate in this thread...Matt?
Left no glass behind...Except the rear lid window, complete, which went right back in...

btray has the whole thing on video...

--ron

[Redcbr007]

i've seen that pic before and just could not figure out how you got it like that.


Well, it all started when using the hiJack to change a front tire... :D

[Kejtar]

That's a MYTH I tell you!

Sequoia
Red and proud!
It better be!

[Kejtar]

Yeah, that looks a heckuva lot like Moab Rim. If so, there is a "slight decline in the grade" a little way past that rock...

Or is it over near the Lion's Back?

Jared:patriot:
Yeah it looks like it'd be a loooong way down! And if it's Moab Rim... it is LONG WAY DOWN

[Kejtar]

Do full rotations count?
http://home.socal.rr.com/remi/pics/old.jpg