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Safari Ary
May 5th, 2003, 08:41
Ok, I didn't think this was gonna happen till next summer, but I may be losing the XJ as soon as tomorrow, so I need to get cranking on this. I will have about 8k to spend on the whole project, and I have admittedly VERY ambitious goals. Here's the ideal setup:

late 80's MJ w/ 4.0/Aw4/??(maybe a used Atlas if building a 231 becomes unreasonable in the $$ dept)

Full-width HP Ft 44/60 rear(Gear suggestoins??)

RE ZJ 4.5" coils using lengthened Ford radius arms/SOA on stock leafs w/ a traction bar setup

36-37s, haven't decided on tires yet, need to be able to do mud so MTRs are out, but they need to be able to be street driven, so Swampers are out, BFG KMs?.

Interior Cage/Exo/Flatbed(should I tie the cab's exo into the flat bed or should I keep them seperate to allow the "frame" to twist??)

Also thinking about doing a 2001 Front clip(have two matching fenders(slightly wrinkled) and the cracked header panel from the XJ anyway, so I figured I might as well). Does the hood need to be changed as well to match??

So here's the interesting part, besides my questions above, do you guys think this can be done on this budget?? Do you think that if I buy a comanche for 5-700$ that it will have far too many maintenance issues to deal with that will end up costing me?? I originally wanted to swap in a late model 4.0/Aw4/231 to save myself the trouble of chasing gremlins of a high mileage, tired, renix 4.0. But I think costs are gonna put the nix on that one. Thanks

Ary

P.S. Check the wanted board if you have any leads on MJs....I'm in Virginia

Safari Ary
May 5th, 2003, 08:44
Here's an idea of what I'm lusting after:

http://filebox.vt.edu/users/arebrahi/Jeep%20pictures/Other%20Jeeps/MJ%20on%20fullwidths.jpg

Safari Ary
May 5th, 2003, 08:47
Crap, I thought I was in Mod Tech when I posted this....can someone move it please? Thanks

Ary

sarvermr
May 5th, 2003, 11:33
i've been lusting after that red mj too. too bad its dead now. i believe it was running 4.0, tf 727, d300, klune v , etc, etc.

my dream mj:
d60 or d44 front/d60rear or d60 or d44 front/gm 14 rear, both welded or spooled
hummer beadlocks so it won't be too wide
37" tires (military surplus)
t-case doubler similar to this:
http://www.bc4x4.com/tech/bryce/tcase/tcase.cfm
custom flat bed similar to this except with custom exocage/flatbed rack
http://www.tacomaterritory.com/~tacozilla/Tellico52.jpg
LWB bobbed just behind the rear shackle hangers
tf 727 trans, either d300 with chevy front axle or np 231 ford front
bushwacker front flares
97+ front clip
custom front bumper, used winch

i want everything as cheap as possible yet fairly heavy duty.
estimated budget:
base truck: $1000
axles: $1500
gears: $1000 (installed)
trans, t-case: $500
Tire, rims: $500
Winch: $500
steel for bumper, flatbed, cage: $500

i'm sure i forgot a million things, but thats $5500 so far. it leave you about $2500 left over in your budget. i know this isn't much help, but this post just got me excited about mj's!
matthew

rockwerks
May 5th, 2003, 12:44
do it your self kit...mostly here...still on way is coil overs.....four link arms for rear.....tubing for flatbed and cage......alum....mastercraft seats.......

http://us.f1.yahoofs.com/users/c4df20a2/bc/My+Photos/truck+building/__hr_axle+stuff+005.jpg?bc8Hst.AzvYP_wrc


http://us.f1.yahoofs.com/users/c4df20a2/bc/My+Photos/truck+building/__hr_axle+stuff+007.jpg?bc8Hst.AGwUMd8HV


http://us.f1.yahoofs.com/users/c4df20a2/bc/My+Photos/truck+building/__hr_axle+stuff+006.jpg?bc8Hst.Aw793TplW


http://us.f1.yahoofs.com/users/c4df20a2/bc/My+Photos/truck+building/__hr_axle+stuff+008.jpg?bc8Hst.AoZjz_8_z

sarvermr
May 5th, 2003, 13:59
nice red x!

sarvermr
May 5th, 2003, 14:15
ary,
i'm sure you've probably already seen it, but orgs is building a comanche too. i really like the custom beds like allpro, but the real flatbeds look nice too.

http://www.orgsmfg.com/project/mj.htm


http://www.orgsmfg.com/project/MVC-008F.JPG



allpro (only for yota's but still a nice design).

http://www.allprooffroad.com/8355.jpg

Safari Ary
May 5th, 2003, 14:30
I'm actually plannin something in between. Maybe flat bed isn't quite the right word. It's gonna have wheelwells and short sides that are the height of the wheelwells. Prolly make it out of 2x2 and skin it in 1/8", it's gonna be line-xed so I dunno if the diamond tread is worth the money. Anywho, the first step is to find an MJ that runs well, but isn't the prettiest.

Safari Ary
May 5th, 2003, 18:13
quick sketch I did:

http://filebox.vt.edu/users/arebrahi/Jeep%20pictures/MJ.jpg

sarvermr
May 6th, 2003, 07:21
that looks sorta like this:

http://bbs.off-road.com/ubbthreads/download.php?Number=1039465

rockwerks
May 6th, 2003, 07:25
Thats not very attractive..functual though

Ralph
May 6th, 2003, 07:29
Functional is attractive.

RR3

rockwerks
May 6th, 2003, 07:56
a row of buckets is functional...

Safari Ary
May 6th, 2003, 08:28
I'm with Brian, I don't think that 'yota looks good either. My idea is actually based off a flat-bed 'yota in my club that I think looks really good.

Anyway, what do you guys think about tieing the exo of the cab into the bed, i.e. trying to keep the bed and the cab from flexing independently. Is this stupid to do on a P/U Chassis?? I know we all try and rigidize our XJs to prevent stress cracks and such, does that theory still apply?? Thanks

Ary

rockwerks
May 6th, 2003, 08:38
yes it still applies...Im planning to do the same