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kmagnuss_2000
August 5th, 2004, 18:34
Let me just start off by saying that I just had the best night of wrenching. No broken bolts, no pieces not fitting, it was nice. Anyway....

I heard about people using Dakota rear leaves for cheap 4" lifts...but I didn't have any available nearby so I found some S10 Blazer springs. Not just any Blazer...the ZR2 high rider model. Now I don't know if the springs are different between the base model and the ZR2, but all I can say is wow.
First off I thought that I was going to have to cut off the eyes and use the XJ main leaf and bolt them up...nope. The blazer springs were a perfect fit. They were exactly the same length. When the springs were off the Jeep, they actually looked almost identical with my current 2" RE budget boost add a leaf on there. Same length, same curve and all. But the blazer springs are thicker, still 2.5" wide and there's only 3 instead of 5 (with the AAL) on the stock springs. Well I put em in and the only thing I had to do to get them to fit was unbolt the center pin and turn it around and put it back in. Then everything just fit into place nicely. The only small snag was that the center pin was a little further back (not quite an inch) on the blazer springs, so I just had to pull on the axle to get it to line up.

Now I haven't taken a center of hub to fender measurement yet, but I can fit my hand making a thumbs up in between my 31's and the fender. I just took out the ruler and that's exactly 6". It was 3.5" with the 2" AAL and the RE extended shackle (1.5"?).

Road manners: Well, it actually seems to ride the same as the AAL's. I was worried about driveline vibes with the extra 2.5" of lift, but they're really not that bad. They're there from about 30mph to 37mph, and that's it. That seems weird to me since I have a 99 and I've heard of 99's getting vibes with as little as 2" of lift. Anyway, I'm glad we all have a new source of an easy fit for about 5" of lift in the rear!

-Keith

Now I need some taller front springs...anybody have some for sale?

BrettM
August 5th, 2004, 18:42
sounds good, get some pics! you better make sure your slip-yoke isn't on the verge of falling out. and don't be mistaken, without a SYE you are killing your t-case, but it might take a while, or it could happen quickly. you may be okay with that, but just be aware.

kmagnuss_2000
August 5th, 2004, 19:09
I'll take some pics tomorrow when it's light out. And yeah, I totally agree about the SYE...it's on my to do list. Hopefully in the next few months. Well, hopefully a broken driveshaft doesn't necessitate that into being a few days anyway. I might just drop the Tcase in the meantime.

Fryphax
August 6th, 2004, 01:02
You are probably not gettting vibes as bad because you effectively extended your wheelbase ~1 or so (the difference in center pin location) This could be making your angles slightly better.

WI88XJ
August 6th, 2004, 05:53
Keith,

What year Blazer ZR2 did you get the springs from?

Steve

kmagnuss_2000
August 6th, 2004, 08:17
2000

I got them for $40.

yellowxj
August 6th, 2004, 10:43
flex it and get some pics....nice job finding something new!!

BrettM
August 6th, 2004, 14:09
You are probably not gettting vibes as bad because you effectively extended your wheelbase ~1 or so (the difference in center pin location) This could be making your angles slightly better.
i DOUBT it, less than an inch moved back would HARDLY affect the angle at all. Now my MJ having an extra FOOT of wheelbase explains why I have no problems with no SYE and 7" lift.

kmagnuss_2000
August 6th, 2004, 17:49
Here's some pictures...
There appears to be an added benefit to moving the wheels back a bit...when I decide to get out the sawzall and trim the rear fenders a bit, it looks like the only part I'll have to trim will be the rear of the fender, which we all know for us 4 door guys is alot easier than trimming around the door.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v170/kmags/905-0532_IMG.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v170/kmags/905-0529_IMG.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v170/kmags/905-0528_IMG.jpg

-Keith

Fryphax
August 6th, 2004, 18:48
i DOUBT it, less than an inch moved back would HARDLY affect the angle at all. Now my MJ having an extra FOOT of wheelbase explains why I have no problems with no SYE and 7" lift.

Sure, an extra foot will make a huge difference. That doesn't change that even an inch can make a difference.

BTW I had my XJ at 7" with no SYE and no vibes. Guess that extra foot doesn't matter.

xjfish
August 6th, 2004, 20:39
They bolted right in huh? I've heard that they were close but s10 packs wouldn't work with the original main leaf. I just bought a new pair off a s10/blzr and was planning using the xj main. Maybe I should have measured them before I tore them apart...

kmagnuss_2000
August 6th, 2004, 20:45
I just did a measurement from the center of the wheel to the bottom of the flare, and it was only 20.5". That means it was only a 2" lift, since my RE shackles are supposed to be 1.5" (I think). But it looks way way taller than 3.5". My shocks weren't sagging before, but it looks like it's at least 5" taller. There is 6" between the flare and the top of my tire (31").

cykaaro
December 13th, 2005, 16:49
Stock should be 17" so you're sitting at 3.5" actually.

Kejtar
December 13th, 2005, 17:13
Stock should be 17" so you're sitting at 3.5" actually.
he's been there... for over a year :D

raypla
December 13th, 2005, 17:36
he's been there... for over a year :D

Thats Funkin Hilarious :)

kmagnuss_2000
December 13th, 2005, 17:45
I just did a measurement from the center of the wheel to the bottom of the flare, and it was only 20.5". That means it was only a 2" lift, since my RE shackles are supposed to be 1.5" (I think). But it looks way way taller than 3.5". .


Cykarro...thank you for reviving a year old thread with useless information, trying to correct my math skills when I clearly stated that it was 3.5". Good job. You may advance to 3rd grade now.

Gold star for you...eh.

-Keith

cykaaro
December 13th, 2005, 17:48
whatever

glub
December 13th, 2005, 17:48
Would they fit with a stock shackle for a mild 2 inch lift?

Darky
January 2nd, 2006, 13:43
considering that the extended shackle is designed to fit the same springs as a stock shackle, I'd say most likely yes.

jjvande
January 2nd, 2006, 23:17
Sure, an extra foot will make a huge difference. That doesn't change that even an inch can make a difference.

BTW I had my XJ at 7" with no SYE and no vibes. Guess that extra foot doesn't matter.

actually, it wont change at all due to the wheel base changing...the slip joint is not between the the two u-joints...same rise...same run. Your statement would be valid if he had a CV, or DC style shaft with the slip joint between the u-joints.