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Jes
July 2nd, 2004, 15:15
Alright, the trip is about 6 weeks away. Who all is going, and will you be running all the trails or just the Rubicon with us?
I'll be running Fordyce, Rubicon, and BLT. I can't wait for the 9 days in the Sierra Nevadas!

Jes

Porch Puppy
July 2nd, 2004, 17:55
Lisa and I will be there for all 9 days. Jes see ya in 2 weeks.. :cheers:

Andy

Big Bear
July 2nd, 2004, 22:17
I will be do just the Rubicon trail. Xj 4 Moab will also be doing the same. And I believe we have one or two more guys that will be coming out form Utah.

Goatman
July 2nd, 2004, 23:56
Nice to see some out of staters planning to make it.......always nice to see new and old friends, as well as the local guys. :)

I'll be there for Fordyce and Rubicon, can't make Barrett.

And I'll see some of you in two weeks.

poomba
July 3rd, 2004, 03:56
Well, I sent a check out, but haven't gotten any feedback on it, and that was some time ago.... I don't know what trails I'm doing, as, I don't have a clue which I CAN do. So, sure, I'll be somewhere in august :P

Kaczman
July 3rd, 2004, 08:32
I'm in for the entire trip. I'll be flying solo since my wife can't get 3 weeks off in the Summer.

-Jon

EricsXJ
July 4th, 2004, 02:09
I'll be doing the Rubicon portion.

Lincoln
July 5th, 2004, 19:16
Kristen and I will be there for Fordyce, Rubicon, and Barrett(?).

Dad's tagging along in his YJ :puke: for Fordyce and Rubicon too.

Phil
July 6th, 2004, 21:47
I sent my stuff in for the Rubicon. My rig WILL be finished and test run before then.

xj4moab
July 6th, 2004, 22:42
I will be there but no one has cashed the registration check :dunno:

CRASH
July 7th, 2004, 07:11
Yeah, we had some banking issues to contend with, but it looks like they will be solved today.

I've been offline for a while because of chaos and havoc at work. I'll post a roster up tonight or tomorrow.

CRASH

Bryan C.
July 8th, 2004, 00:01
I'm in for Fordyce, The Rubicon and Barret Lake. Sounds like it is going to be a great time. Can't wait. I am looking forward to meeting some more fellow NAXJA members.

Bryan

Paul S
July 8th, 2004, 08:21
I'm in for the Rubicon & most likely Fordyce.

Paul

Big Red
July 8th, 2004, 17:56
I'm in for Fordyce trail only. I just got time off of work to see my family in Illinois 8/20-29 so this is the only trail I can do at the moment. Hope to see many of you guys.

basalt51
July 15th, 2004, 14:59
I'm in for all three.

ChuckD
July 15th, 2004, 15:01
I'm not in, :( You may have recieved my app via email, please remove me from the list.

brian r
July 15th, 2004, 23:29
OOOHHHHH yaaaaa were in wouldnt miss it!!!! we'll be traveiling from salt lake also, may just run rubicon,depends on the breakage,dont want to push my luck. :o

xj4moab
July 19th, 2004, 23:16
Crash do you have a roster ready :rtm:

EricsXJ
July 20th, 2004, 00:04
Anyone else bringing any kids? My 9 year old son will be coming. He's very shy...

Big Red
July 20th, 2004, 11:22
I'm in for Fordyce trail only. I just got time off of work to see my family in Illinois 8/20-29 so this is the only trail I can do at the moment. Hope to see many of you guys.

I might be in for running the Con in reverse if we can get an early start on it Sunday after the Fordyce run, but I have to work on Monday so I need to get back sometime before 6 in the morning or so. I have 4 sets of rock lights so I have no problem to the Con at night if it does get late. What hardcore guys are planning on doing this and meeting the group at Loon Lake via doing the Con in rev on Sunday? I have only been through Buck Island Lake from Loon and then back out Loon so I haven't seen the anything east of maybe a mile or so past Buck Island. There are some nice climbs around Buck Island and this is where my buddy in his 85' buggy Toyota with 37" mtrs snapped his Birfield so that took a little bit fix. I cannot take anytime off during M-F and then I leave for Chicago on a red eye flight friday night 8/20. See you guys there.
Troy

Big Red
July 20th, 2004, 11:26
What plans are changing with the Spider Lake situation? Are you guys camping out along the trail away from Spider? My group did a little way after the Slabs at Loon and we got woke up alot by people running the trail early in the morning. Man that trail sees action 24/7 just about. A early bronco on 52" Michelins was almost on top of us and get stalling out and restarting and stalling out for about an hour or more right by our group, so that really sucked. We camped without tents on a tarp and sleeping bags behind a couple downed trees on the side of the trail. It was fun, but I didn't get much sleep that night for sure.
Troy

Goatman
July 20th, 2004, 13:41
These comments are in the wrong thread........this is about who's going, not making plans. Should be moved to the plans thread.

XJhammer
July 20th, 2004, 20:35
I'm going and bringing one friend. I think that we will be in a TJ though as my XJ needs some work.

We'll be there just for the rubie trail and not the rest. It's a long drive from CO...

-Jeff

CRASH
July 21st, 2004, 06:21
I'll get a roster up tonight......I need to get from a different computer and post it from home. Sorry for the delay, I've been out of town for the last week and a half.

CRASH

Goatman
July 21st, 2004, 08:55
I'll get a roster up tonight......I need to get from a different computer and post it from home. Sorry for the delay, I've been out of town for the last week and a half.

CRASH

Excuses, excuses.............



:)

CRASH
July 21st, 2004, 20:37
Alright you whining biatches, here's the roster I have.

If you don't see yourself on here, tough shiit. :D

Checks are STILL not cashed because it is UNBELIEVABLY difficult to get a bank account for a non-profit org that is headquartered out of state. I hope to try a different bank tomorrow and get it taken care of. Again, apologies for delay.

David Taylor

Bryon Reyna

Jason Bariel

Bryan Cloward

Andy Couch

Bill Assendrup

Jon Reese

Erik Mighells

Phil Weeks

Jon Kaczmarski

Lincoln Assendrup

Mike Olesko

Richard Gauthier

Jeff Ayers

Paul Sinclair

Jack Curtis

Sean Lane

Jesse Rivers

CRASH

CRASH
July 21st, 2004, 20:39
Excuses, excuses.............



:)


Do you even have a running rig?

CRASH

xj4moab
July 21st, 2004, 22:11
Hey thanks crash i just wanted to know i was on the list good luck on the bank

Goatman
July 21st, 2004, 22:26
Do you even have a running rig?

CRASH

Sure I do.......it just doesn't sound so good with a loud exhaust and a dead hole.

:D

I have a list of honey do's a mile long, so between that and the Jeep I'll be working my ass off between now and the 'Con. I'll be VERY ready for a nice vacation.

brian r
July 22nd, 2004, 19:19
Anyone else bringing any kids? My 9 year old son will be coming. He's very shy...
Eric i have a ten year old who would love to have someone to hang around camp with,other than his brother and sister,his name is chance. :wave1:
see ya there, brian r.

brian r
July 22nd, 2004, 19:22
Crash,i'm a loser,just realized i havnt sent my check,found it in my sun visor dated two months ago,sorry ill send it this evening :hang:
Brian r.

EricsXJ
July 22nd, 2004, 20:43
Eric i have a ten year old who would love to have someone to hang around camp with,other than his brother and sister,his name is chance. :wave1:
see ya there, brian r.

Great! I'm glad some other kids will be there. My son (Taylor is his name) loves wheeling and I take him camping etc just me and him, but with this being such a long trip, having someone his own age there will be fun for him.

BrettM
August 2nd, 2004, 16:12
I'm gonna be there just Saturday for Fordyce. I head back to school (michigan) the next week, so I'll miss running the 'Con with you guys :(

poomba
August 2nd, 2004, 20:53
Let us know, please, if there's any updates/changes before 7th august, for us poor benighted fools headed out to colorado.. before we head on over to California. I'll try to keep up on the internet, but that 900 miles of extension cord is gonna be a bit of a problem on sharp turns..

BrettM
August 3rd, 2004, 16:30
I'm gonna be there just Saturday for Fordyce. I head back to school (michigan) the next week, so I'll miss running the 'Con with you guys :(
okay, I might have lied, we'll see

Goatman
August 3rd, 2004, 19:59
okay, I might have lied, we'll see

OK, so you gonna show up or what????


:D :D

Mike L
August 4th, 2004, 01:45
I'm gonna try to make it to all 3 runs. I will be bringing the fam with me. Anyone from So. CA wanna car-a-van up? Is the registration just for the breakfast thing and to get t-shirts?

-Mike

CRASH
August 4th, 2004, 06:24
I'm gonna try to make it to all 3 runs. I will be bringing the fam with me. Anyone from So. CA wanna car-a-van up? Is the registration just for the breakfast thing and to get t-shirts?

-Mike

Registration thing is for dinner, T-shirts and camping costs at Rubicon springs.

If any losers/slackers still want to come, we can take a small number of extra's without P-Oin the Forest Service. Just settle up with me when you get there.

CRASH

crazy4mopar
August 6th, 2004, 20:28
Registration thing is for dinner, T-shirts and camping costs at Rubicon springs.

If any losers/slackers still want to come, we can take a small number of extra's without P-Oin the Forest Service. Just settle up with me when you get there.

CRASHIs there room for 3 more? :D

BrettM
August 9th, 2004, 04:11
OK, so you gonna show up or what????


:D :D
I'm officially IN for Fordyce :D

poomba
August 9th, 2004, 19:17
Playing this one by ear..blew the bottle out at 13,000 feet in colorado, but it was overheating wayyyy before then. So all I got to see (still worth the trip), was alpine loop (engineer pass, silverado and things like that there). Came back to SLC, when the local shop couldn't give much input on what's still left to fix the problem... so I have a few days to get this addressed, and still make the rubicon. Problem is..it doesn't heat on anything but up steep hills, so I wouldn't know if it was fixed..until I was on the trail. And I really don't want to screw up anyone's trail..and I really, really don't want to miss this run..cuz..first real vacation I've gotten since 9-11. Shrug, I'll try and be there. Thinking a Modine open might help, and whatever else I can throw on there in a couple of days and still make it out. No one stocks parts anymore, seems like, so the parts getting there on time..is the sticking point. Regardless, if I don't make it, keep the check, put it toward an extra hot dog for the kids, and keep your fingers crossed.

Lincoln
August 9th, 2004, 19:36
Playing this one by ear..blew the bottle out at 13,000 feet in colorado, but it was overheating wayyyy before then. So all I got to see (still worth the trip), was alpine loop (engineer pass, silverado and things like that there). Came back to SLC, when the local shop couldn't give much input on what's still left to fix the problem... so I have a few days to get this addressed, and still make the rubicon. Problem is..it doesn't heat on anything but up steep hills, so I wouldn't know if it was fixed..until I was on the trail. And I really don't want to screw up anyone's trail..and I really, really don't want to miss this run..cuz..first real vacation I've gotten since 9-11. Shrug, I'll try and be there. Thinking a Modine open might help, and whatever else I can throw on there in a couple of days and still make it out. No one stocks parts anymore, seems like, so the parts getting there on time..is the sticking point. Regardless, if I don't make it, keep the check, put it toward an extra hot dog for the kids, and keep your fingers crossed.

I've got a pressure bottle and a 2-row modine. If you have any trouble getting parts let me know. Probably have some other cooling system crap laying around if you need it.

Also we'll be picking up I-80 at Wells, NV sometime Friday morning if you want someone to travel with just in case you have problems.

poomba
August 9th, 2004, 19:56
I appreciate the hell out of that, Lincoln. You're good people. I'll push hard to get the stuff installed here in slc, so it doesn't cut into anyone's trail time. I KNOW poopoo occurs on the trail..but bugged me that I slowed our group in colorado so they didn't take some offshoot stuff. If I can't get it done here, I'll ask the West Cost..er, Coast people for a raincheck and do the con next year..even if it has to be in a whole 'nother jeep. I'll try my best to hook up with you guys. Frankly, the type of jeep doesn't matter to me..I've just found the best drive xj's... I'm pitching a lil weight, too, see if that helps any. But with all the armor, and bumpers, it still ain't light... Maybe take the hood off, hell I dunno. Already changed clutch fans, radiators, hoses, thermostats, and it has a aftermarket electric fan on the side that the tranny cooler is on, so..not sure what else is left. the water pump seems to be working, but might change it just in case. It's just when it climbs, if there's air flow (me moving 15 mph or more) its pretty well fine. Highway, I can do 85 with the air conditioning on, and it never gets over 210..cept when it climbs. So, dunno. :) I'll give it my best shot..I really wanna drive the 'Con and meet the faces behind the signatures. :eyes:

xj4moab
August 9th, 2004, 21:06
Poomba we will be leaving SLC around 5 or 6 am on saturday

poomba
August 9th, 2004, 21:13
Poomba we will be leaving SLC around 5 or 6 am on saturday

Cool..well, that IS the issue, isn't it..I mean, great :). Still, me being stubborn, I'm gonna try and get this thrown together and my butt on out there asap..figure, if I can make it, 4dyce would tell me one way or another. Bring a wrench, if it blows up, might charge a dollar for 10 minutes with a wrench and raise some cash for the chapter... Or bring a really BIG wrench, and beat me with it, for not listening when people asked if sinking so much into an 89, back in april..was such a good plan..Heh, but ya know..I wuz trying to get to Moab, and.... I STILL plan on seeing you guys out there. :smsoap: hasta

And before anyone else suggests it, we thought of trying the trails in reverse, cuz, then it wouldn't be uphill, right?

Lincoln
August 9th, 2004, 22:08
Ditch the aftermarket fan and get a new style stock electric. Even if you don't get it put on before you leave it would be worth trying if you have problems. I've got 5 or 6 aftermarkets I've tried and the new style stock worked the best. It's gotta be the shroud design. I made a sheet metal shroud on the highest flow aftermarket (Scotts) I could find and it still didn't move enough. The stocker moved more.

Also I also had a brand new GDI that was partially plugged.

Make sure there is flow running through the bottle (old style cooling right?) after it's warmed up. If there isn't any flow through there it's a sign of an air bubble.

Good luck.

SeanP
August 9th, 2004, 23:09
Marni, Emma and I will be there sunday for the BBQ. I blew up the engine in my tow rig last weekend so we are still working out the logistics of getting the heep up there. Yes, I might even drive it, but the SX's make for a really squirly highway ride.

I am really looking forward to seeing everyone. I have wheeled since Moab 02, except for last weekends Fordyce maiden voyage, during which the heep was flawless.

SeanP

JP
August 10th, 2004, 09:17
Me and my ladies (wife n youngins) will be up at Ice House all weekend with Jerry and his family doing some boating / fishing, then joining up for the BBQ. We are in camp sites 34 & 36. Swing by if you get up there early.

Jeff

Goatman
August 10th, 2004, 09:50
Cool..well, that IS the issue, isn't it..I mean, great :). Still, me being stubborn, I'm gonna try and get this thrown together and my butt on out there asap..figure, if I can make it, 4dyce would tell me one way or another. Bring a wrench, if it blows up, might charge a dollar for 10 minutes with a wrench and raise some cash for the chapter... Or bring a really BIG wrench, and beat me with it, for not listening when people asked if sinking so much into an 89, back in april..was such a good plan..Heh, but ya know..I wuz trying to get to Moab, and.... I STILL plan on seeing you guys out there. :smsoap: hasta

And before anyone else suggests it, we thought of trying the trails in reverse, cuz, then it wouldn't be uphill, right?

Take this for what it's worth, but in my experience if the pump is good (they really only leak when they're bad), the thermostat is opening, the reservoir cap is sealing, and the fans are good, it's a partially plugged radiator......happens all the time. I plugged a new radiator 40% in a couple of years because I didn't backflush the motor when I installed the new radiator, rodded out the radiator and it's been good ever since, except when I had trouble getting a cap that would seal. I finally went to a Volvo cap which works great (part number 33051).

Open or closed makes little difference. Contrary to popular opinion the open system doesn't cool better, you just don't have to deal with the pressure bottle (I always carry a spare, they're cheap).

Good luck, and we'll see you Friday. :D

poomba
August 10th, 2004, 10:20
Take this for what it's worth, but in my experience if the

Open or closed makes little difference. Contrary to popular opinion the open system doesn't cool better, you just don't have to deal with the pressure bottle (I always carry a spare, they're cheap).

Good luck, and we'll see you Friday. :D

Blown head gasket..guess I had enough air flow down the road to mask it heating up on the highway. 100 parts per million, hydrocarbons, in the coolant, sooo..should get it done, and me on the road by tomorrow night. If that's all it is, I'll get a new bottle and prayer wheels from a buddist monk and call it good, heading on out. I don't have any spare shafts for the front (dana 30) and no idea what these real shafts fit..cough..but I do have 5 tow straps! Anyway, getting the head milled or whatever we call it, when its resurfaced. I hope this is it..should be. Beats the hell out of my 'lets whack a hole in the hood and run a fan straight up' idea. If it overheats again, though, I'll be the guy on the bumper swingin' an axe at the hood. Just stand back until I stop muttering to myself....
But ya know what? I'm going to the 'Con..and the rest just don't matter... :wave1: :pig:

Goatman
August 10th, 2004, 14:50
Blown head gasket..guess I had enough air flow down the road to mask it heating up on the highway. 100 parts per million, hydrocarbons, in the coolant, sooo..should get it done, and me on the road by tomorrow night. If that's all it is, I'll get a new bottle and prayer wheels from a buddist monk and call it good, heading on out. I don't have any spare shafts for the front (dana 30) and no idea what these real shafts fit..cough..but I do have 5 tow straps! Anyway, getting the head milled or whatever we call it, when its resurfaced. I hope this is it..should be. Beats the hell out of my 'lets whack a hole in the hood and run a fan straight up' idea. If it overheats again, though, I'll be the guy on the bumper swingin' an axe at the hood. Just stand back until I stop muttering to myself....
But ya know what? I'm going to the 'Con..and the rest just don't matter... :wave1: :pig:

Sorry for the hassle and the expense, and bummer that you missed some of the CO trip, but I'm glad you'll make the CA trip. If you haven't already, it's sure a good idea to send that radiator out to have it checked while the engine is apart, just to be sure, unless it's a very fresh radiator.

If you have a non-disconnect, I have a set of D30 297x axle shafts, brand new, that I could bring. I'll try to remember to throw them in the truck.

poomba
August 11th, 2004, 16:48
Sorry for the hassle and the expense, and bummer that you missed some of the CO trip, but I'm glad you'll make the CA trip. If you haven't already, it's sure a good idea to send that radiator out to have it checked while the engine is apart, just to be sure, unless it's a very fresh radiator.

If you have a non-disconnect, I have a set of D30 297x axle shafts, brand new, that I could bring. I'll try to remember to throw them in the truck.

I have a...um..shiznit..I used to know what I had..I got axles, that's whut I done got..sorry, I can't remember if they're c clip, or what. the radiator is 1 month old. the head was warped, but I dunno if the head warped from the heat, or the heat was from the warped head. At any rate, if it looks to be a problem, we'll get me off the trail so I don't slow anyone down, and I'll go home wif my tail between my legs..til next year. I'm headed (no pun, honest) out there now, gonna take it slow and easy, cuz, it's been a long 2 days at the shop. See you guys there, and thanks :repair:
Gods, I reallllly want a beer...but, driving first..take care people. Somebody bring my gd'd tee shirt! :pig:

Lupine
August 13th, 2004, 02:04
Man...this is too sad...

I'm really gonna miss you guys - but, sadly enough, we don't make enough $$$ to support Crash's Jeep habits, so I won't be able to take off the time required to do the Con. Have fun and party hard - I'll be living vicariously through y'all - and I'll meet whoever's left from the trip Thursday night/Friday morning at Barrett.

Crash: I expect regular updates and late night URF calls. Noncompliance = capital punishment.

Lu

basalt51
August 13th, 2004, 11:04
Thats too bad. I was hoping you'ld be there to tell me my rig was perty and point out all the stuff wrong with it. See you at Barrett.

crazy4mopar
August 13th, 2004, 12:26
WoooHooo I'm outta here!!!

Look for the NAXJA XJFEST SIGN at the fordyce trail head
916-747-2775 in case anyone gets lost

Big Red
August 13th, 2004, 15:31
Marni, Emma and I will be there sunday for the BBQ. I blew up the engine in my tow rig last weekend so we are still working out the logistics of getting the heep up there. Yes, I might even drive it, but the SX's make for a really squirly highway ride.

I am really looking forward to seeing everyone. I have wheeled since Moab 02, except for last weekends Fordyce maiden voyage, during which the heep was flawless.

SeanP

Could you tow with your 98' zj Sean? I was hoping to see you for the Lost Coast trip last March. What happened? I blew my tranny in my 98' zj during that trip in the creek on Usal Beach, man that sucked. Still waiting to refinance and get the $$$ to get it rebuilt or replaced.

Big Red
August 13th, 2004, 15:36
Man...this is too sad...

I'm really gonna miss you guys - but, sadly enough, we don't make enough $$$ to support Crash's Jeep habits, so I won't be able to take off the time required to do the Con. Have fun and party hard - I'll be living vicariously through y'all - and I'll meet whoever's left from the trip Thursday night/Friday morning at Barrett.

Crash: I expect regular updates and late night URF calls. Noncompliance = capital punishment.

Lu

:twak: :D Yeah, the whole week Con run is too rich for my blood too. Every hour of time I get for PTO I have to devote to my family back in IL. I rather do the con during a 2-3 day weekend anyways, you guys should hopefully have the trail almost to yourselves. When is the Barrett trail open other than next weekend? I heard it isn't open that much during the year.
Troy

Lupine
August 13th, 2004, 18:03
I wasn't talking to you, dude.

SeanP
August 14th, 2004, 00:01
Britt, you suck.

That is all.


SeanP

Lupine
August 14th, 2004, 12:09
Well, F you too. :D