Best tire option for trail

[gearwhine]

OK, I have a few options, and a few things I am looking into. I want to keep the dana 30 for quite a while as I have no extra money, but want to move up from my 33" AT.

My three main choices are TSL Q78 (35.5x10.5), TSL 36x12.5, and MT/R 37x12.5. I like wider tires so the q78 is a hard choice for me, but it has the height I need and from what I can tell, much less weight than 36 TSL. The MT/R is with .2" of the 36 TSL, and I'm expecting much less weight with it being a radial, and maybe lighter than the Q78. I know the MT/R's are around 170-180 lbs each

So, pretty much considering the dana 30...I know, there is a running post on 36"+ on the dana going now, but its not on tire choice, What would you choose?

I've got 5.5" of lift, with TJ flares, and will be trimming more...not going any higher. I have 4.56 gears and a tera low, so I'm expecting it to still have a decent crawl with these tires. If the axle had no effect on my choice I would go, (1) TSL 36 (2) Goodyear MT/R (3) Q78. I will be upgrading to full cirlce clip 760's before this point as well. Thanks for the opinions _nicko_

[jalehman]

If you are at only 5.5" of lift and not going any higher, I can't see any tire over a 35" fitting up in the front inner fender well. I'm right around 6" of lift with 35's with around 5.5" of up travel at the shock. I couldn't fit any more tire at all without severe inner fender modifications. The outer fender is trimmed to fit TJ flares. You could fit 37's if you really limited the up travel but why?

[gearwhine]

I cut my fenders to the stock TJ flare location, but I can get another 2-3" radius off of each of them by cutting the mounting off and riveting them on, and I think that is plenty to fit 37's decently. I think the larger tires will be more of an advantage than a loss of 1-2" of compression. I definitely am not going even 1" lager in lift in any future I see, but tires are a different story.

[jalehman]

The outer fender you can cut as much as you want. The inner fender is what will give you trouble. I rub the metal above the coil mount, the front inner fender where the battery is located, and the rear of the fender. This is with 3.75" of backspacing on 8" wide rims. I pounded the pinch seam on the rear of the fender back with a bfh so that it didn't cut my tires. I would think that you would have to limit travel more than 1 to 2" because a 37" couldn't even begin to tuck up into the fenders when a 35" barely can.

[Georgia Mike]

Originally posted by gearwhine
I know the MT/R's are around 170-180 lbs each



:eek: :eek: :eek: :eek:
HOLY CRAP MAN!!!
That's some serious weight!
:shiver: :shiver: :shiver: :shiver:
You sure that's accurate?!?!
Are they made out of iron or something?!?!
:shocked: :shocked: :shocked: :shocked:

[gearwhine]

haha, jeez..I just looked at some website, forget which one, and read that, and it didn't even shoot through my mind. Thanks. I'll look more and try to find some real weights...just imagining 170 a tire now...stupid me. So I KNOW nothing.

Well 36x12.5 tsl is 64 lbs.

goodyear I can't find.

[Safari Ary]

According to FedEx scales, my tires were 54lbs each. THey are 285/75 16s(33x11.50). Just to give you an idea. HTH, Peace

Ary

[Georgia Mike]

OTOH,if they did weigh that much,you'd be a lot less likely to tip over on the trails :laugh:

[CheapXJ]

Go SX or walk home!

wanna see how many plugs I have in the sidewalls of my 36x12.50 TSLs? (no less than one PER TIRE)

If you're keepin the 30, go w/ q78s!

SIDEWALL STRENGTH IS GOD! All the traction in the world doesn't help you if you can't keep the air INSIDE the tires ;)

[MuddinXJ]

i say go Pro Comp XTerrains. the 35x12.50x15 is a greatly balanced tire size. the XTs have great sidewall protection(i think at least 3 plys), and the tread is like 5 plys(i think). the tire only has 1 downfall. it is a directional. other than that it imho outperforms pretty much any tire i have ever seen anyone use. the only ones i would take over it(depending on conditions), would be: for rock: krawler, for mud: bogger.

But, for just an overall trail tire with some rock and some mud this tire is just awesome.

[sintax]

I love how no one noticed that this thread is over a year old.... :cool:

-Scott

[gearwhine]

yeah really...I don't even care anymore :), thanks for bringing it back up cheap...loser...I am still on the tires I have been for over 3 years, and still loving them.

[MuddinXJ]

hey shit it was at the top. i dont give a shit if its a year old. other people may want the info. if its at the top and i have info to give i give it. nuff said

[Joe]

WTF a year old should be time for some new tires anyway. :laugh2:


Re: Best tire option for trail

I love how no one noticed that this thread is over a year old....

-Scott
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89 XJ with some stuff
99 XJ with no stuff

[mgt]

what tires did u go with last year

[gearwhine]

hey shit it was at the top. i dont give a shit if its a year old. other people may want the info. if its at the top and i have info to give i give it. nuff said

calm down there buddy, it's not like I was pissed or anything.

I didn't get new tires last year if you were asking me mgt. I've been on 33" BFG at's for a good three years now.

[xj_punk]

a nobby tire like a swamper will be more abusive on your axles. but if they are the tire you need for your terrain, go for it.
mtr's are sweet tires, but they are not much in wet stuff imo.

i guess it depends on your terrain

[ladywolf]

personally i'd go with BFG A/T or M/T.......we run goodyear on our humvees, and they arent worth a crap. just my .03

[sintax]

apples and oranges...

I'd trade my TSL's in on a set of MTR's if someone would take them. I went with the TSL's because they are cheap, they do well offroad, and they were not going on my daily driver.

I have yet to hear anyone complain about an MTR (except maybe the price), unlike a lot of other tires. The procomp Xterrians happen to pop into my mind when I think of a hated tire. I'm sure Bill Burge or Mike Rollins will comment on how much they love their Xterrians. I have yet to talk to someone who owned a set and enjoyed them.

So yea....if anyone wants to trade me a set of 37" MTR's for my 33" TSL's just PM me. (I wont be holding my breath)

-Scott

[Fryphax]

I fit 36's on 4.5 inches of lift.

The 30 held up damn good but I didn't have the gearing some of you might.
Iroks are a good choice due to their light weight.

Yes I read the whole thread, I just figured I'd throw in some good information for future searches.

[XJZ]

.......we run goodyear on our humvees, and they arent worth a crap. just my .03

...that's why nobody on the west coast runs GoodYears.... :rolleyes:

[Northern Pride]

If you are at only 5.5" of lift and not going any higher, I can't see any tire over a 35" fitting up in the front inner fender well. I'm right around 6" of lift with 35's with around 5.5" of up travel at the shock. I couldn't fit any more tire at all without severe inner fender modifications. The outer fender is trimmed to fit TJ flares. You could fit 37's if you really limited the up travel but why?I agree! I have 8" lift and would rather stay with my 35" tires. I could go to 36" but the 35s stuff well with out worry of damage.

I would also consider wether or not your doing rocks or mud? My 35" Procomp X-Terrains are great for rocks but not very good for mud.

[4ward]

Since we're playing this game again, I'll throw in a little. MTR's are the most aggresive all terrain tire out there. They suck beezil nuts when it gets gooey. I don't know why, but I've been noticing the bfg at's do better in the goo than the mtr's do. I would put either one on a street driven rig. BUT, if you want the best/ strongest off road tire out there you have to go with an SX or a Krawler.

[TNScrambler]

Since we're playing this game again, I'll throw in a little. MTR's are the most aggresive all terrain tire out there. They suck beezil nuts when it gets gooey. I don't know why, but I've been noticing the bfg at's do better in the goo than the mtr's do. I would put either one on a street driven rig. BUT, if you want the best/ strongest off road tire out there you have to go with an SX or a Krawler.


Well said, I'll agree....from what I've seen on trails in the south, the mtrs do good, but not when the trail is muddy, I'd take a swamper anyday! Especially the SX....of course I'd take the krawlers too, if I could afford them.

Justin

[Nay]

Since we're playing this game again, I'll throw in a little. MTR's are the most aggresive all terrain tire out there. They suck beezil nuts when it gets gooey. I don't know why, but I've been noticing the bfg at's do better in the goo than the mtr's do. I would put either one on a street driven rig. BUT, if you want the best/ strongest off road tire out there you have to go with an SX or a Krawler.

That's why a lot of "all terrain" users are going trxus. You lose some rock capability to the MT/R, but you gain mud and snow capability. I think that the trxus is the most aggressive all terrain out there because the MT/R is really a dedicated rock tire, and the trxus plays across the board.

Now to the point of this thread...it seems pretty contrarian to me that anybody need's 36 or 37" tires over 35's when also planning to keep the D30. If you are going to keep the 30 and it's excellent clearance, why not stick with 35's?

Nay

[CharlesS]

What size D30 U-joints are you using ???
Just wondering how long the U-joints will survive going to tires larger than 33s.
Might consider installing 760X U-joints with full circle clips if you havent already.
Just something to think about...

Charles

[lostcreek21]

Go boggers or go home. My boggers have pulled me through almost everything so far. They have a nice sound on the street too :cheers:
No but seriously once I went boggers I don't think I'll ever go back, espicially if this is just a trail tire

[CW]

I run tsl radials and have never been happier. They are louder than bfg muds but aren't bad they ride smooth and I was able to balance them unlike the non radial tsl's at that size. I can tackle stuff that I could never do before with these tires, but that might be because of the jump from 31's to 36's.

edit: holy old thread batman!!!
http://smileys.smileycentral.com/cat/10/10_1_108.gif

[jeepguy97]

I just picked up a set of Firestone Destination M/Ts. They are louder on the street than my BFG A/Ts but that was expected and they go like hell in the mud. I usually never liked Firestones but I found a good deal and I love em.

[jpnjim]

I know this thread's old, but since you're still looking for tires:

37" MTR's; on a D30, I wouldn't.

Q/78 TSL's; for me, this is the max I'd run an a D30ft (297's, stock axles)
Nice tires for us eastern guys.

36/12.5 TSL's: great tires, not much weight/price diff, compared to Q's, slightly taller, and wider.
I thought for a long time, but decided my D30 will last longer on Q's than 36/12.5's.

Random 35's: Lots of decent 35" MT's out there, I run 35" General MT's for the street, but switch to the Q's for wheelin.


Weights:

My (new) Q's weighed:
64.5lbs tire only
86.5 lbs on steel 15x7's
78 lbs on alum 15x7's


My (partially worn) 37/13 Boggers (someone mentioned Boggers ;) )
81.5lbsTire only
107.5lbs on steel 15x8's
101 lbs on alum 15x8.5's


Other weights (not verified by me) Tire only:
35x13.5R15 Krawler: 76lbs
36x12.5-15 TSL: 65lbs
36x13.5-15 IROK Bias: 66lbs
36x13.5R15 IROK Radial: 81lbs
37x12.5R15 IROK Radial: 77lbs

[Root Moose]

Does anyone know how the noise levels of the Truxus compare to say a MT/R or a BFG AT?

I'm thinking about a set for my daily.

r@m

[bgcntry72]

Noticably quieter.
HTH.

[afd516]

What the hell! I think this guy has already made a decision on his tires and probably broke many d30/35 shafts by now. Who brought this back from 2003?

[JCSXJ]

I don't know, but from what I can see you just brought it back from 2004!

[afd516]

It was at the top of my forums. I think someone polled it and with no post and brought it back. I know it stopped in 2003 and again in 2004.

[PapaPump]

hehehe i love old threads...now we have some new mickey thompsons to condsider too...i vote MTZ

[goodburbon]

and I was just re-reading my 2003 issues of fourwheeler....still disappointing that the rubi even placed behind the excursion, montero, fourunner, AND h2.
hasta

since we haven't heard anything since 04, did he ever go with bigger tires?

[gearwhine]

since we haven't heard anything since 04, did he ever go with bigger tires?

nope :wave:

[gearwhine]

STOP VOTING!!! let this thread die please! :wierd: