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Scott Mac.
January 11th, 2004, 16:27
We're looking for volunteers to lead Green & Blue trails.

Any takers?

lesslimited
January 11th, 2004, 16:35
I can do Green, I've run it plenty of times

Scott Mac.
January 11th, 2004, 16:50
Great, thanks John.

Has anybody even run Blue trail. I havn't.

lesslimited
January 11th, 2004, 16:56
I didn't even know there was a Blue trail :dunno:

bgcntry72
January 11th, 2004, 17:00
Who is leading what thus far?
What about Red trail?
I will lead or gun Orange for the early run.
Hasta.

Rev Den
January 11th, 2004, 17:17
I can tail gun Geen or Orange.

Rev

Scott Mac.
January 11th, 2004, 17:48
What about Red trail?

Hasta.

I'm assuming you mean Pink trail. I've got someone in mind for that but he hasn't gotten back with yet.

bgcntry72
January 11th, 2004, 18:04
I'm assuming you mean Pink trail. I've got someone in mind for that but he hasn't gotten back with yet.
Nope.
There is a Red trail now too.
It branches off of Green and goes around the back of the property near that house on the hill.
:lecture:

Scott Mac.
January 11th, 2004, 18:15
Nope.
There is a Red trail now too.
It branches off of Green and goes around the back of the property near that house on the hill.
:lecture:

Last time I ran it that was part of Green trail. You're talking about the house on the hill next to the pond, right? Or are you talking about Todd's house thats back in the woods where that part of Pink is?

bgcntry72
January 11th, 2004, 18:50
I'm tired.
You win.
Hasta.

ChEwBaCcA
January 11th, 2004, 19:02
Red, Blue, damn I need to wheel in Attica more......i didnt even know there was such trails.

chewy

Beezil
January 11th, 2004, 19:11
I'm tired.
You win.
Hasta.

huh?

I don't get it.

I wish one of these days someone would explain how the heell those trails work....

the only trail I know absolutly where it goes is orange.....

the other ones just branch off and overlap, start and end at will.

it never made any damn sense to me....

I saw a sign for blue trail, don't know what it is or where the hell it goes.

funny how organized were are, huh?

:flipoff:

KY Chris
January 11th, 2004, 19:57
Never run Red or Blue, but I've run all the others (except Purgatory of course). I can lead/tail gun whatever, I suppose. Prefer to tailgun what I haven't run yet.

Beezil
January 11th, 2004, 20:03
how bout sitting in the passenger side on purgatory ky?

you know the tree isn't there anymore!

ouch!

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XJJPR
January 11th, 2004, 20:09
Nice view of the *pipe*!

hinkley

lesslimited
January 11th, 2004, 20:51
Where are those damned trees when you need them?

KY Chris
January 11th, 2004, 21:04
how bout sitting in the passenger side on purgatory ky?

you know the tree isn't there anymore!

ouch!

http://users.rcn.com/beezil/public/roll3.JPG

http://users.rcn.com/beezil/public/111-1158_IMG.jpg

Holy shi!T. I miss the tree. But in the word of Boy George, "I'll Tumble For Ya" I trust your cage.

macgyvr
January 12th, 2004, 07:56
There's trails in attica? damn, i didnt know that? i have no clue where any of them go....

mac 'there is a red trail' gyvr

RNMedic
January 12th, 2004, 13:11
Hey Beez I'll ride in the right seat of that rig, John

seanR
January 12th, 2004, 14:45
I can lead tail gun if need be.

4ward
January 12th, 2004, 15:36
That's a sexy pic. I say we have a rollover contest at winterfest. The idiot to make it back onto there tires wins, unassisted of course.

RNMedic
January 12th, 2004, 15:58
That's a sexy pic. I say we have a rollover contest at winterfest. The idiot to make it back onto there tires wins, unassisted of course.
okay but can we all get cages built by then? Can't have you and Beez have all the fun!!!

Scott Mac.
January 12th, 2004, 16:08
how bout sitting in the passenger side on purgatory ky?

you know the tree isn't there anymore!

ouch!

http://users.rcn.com/beezil/public/roll3.JPG

http://users.rcn.com/beezil/public/111-1158_IMG.jpg

Thats a lot of trouble to go through just to inspect your welds. :loveu:

TealV6
January 12th, 2004, 18:52
Thats a lot of trouble to go through just to inspect your welds. :loveu:

You mean he's not playing turtle :moon:

ChEwBaCcA
January 12th, 2004, 19:29
Do you have permission to use those pics?

Chewy

XJJPR
January 12th, 2004, 19:46
That welding on the *pipe* is some of the BEST welds Beezil has ever done in his life!

I was standing there making sure it was done right! I didn't even have to say a word, I just stood there! Beezil would have never of lived it down if I inspected some crap booger weld stuff. We thought he would never finish those welds, he was spend lots of time making sure they were just right because he new I would inspect them! :D

hinkley

WoW, another Beezil and Hinkley welding story! Let's see who will try and get in on this one!

Beezil
January 12th, 2004, 20:03
That's a sexy pic. I say we have a rollover contest at winterfest. The idiot to make it back onto there tires wins, unassisted of course.

okay, I'll spot you....."here's your line"

Beezil
January 12th, 2004, 20:06
That welding on the *pipe* is some of the BEST welds Beezil has ever done in his life!

I was standing there making sure it was done right! I didn't even have to say a word, I just stood there! Beezil would have never of lived it down if I inspected some crap booger weld stuff. We thought he would never finish those welds, he was spend lots of time making sure they were just right because he new I would inspect them! :D

hinkley

WoW, another Beezil and Hinkley welding story! Let's see who will try and get in on this one!

yer damn right!

you think I'm stupid or somtin'????

I know you, you big pail of assholes....I knew the second the welding mask got lifted you'd be crawling your sorry ass under there to see if you could find something to get me on.....

didn't find anything, did-ja???? nope, see ya next time..........jackass


:laugh:

bgcntry72
January 13th, 2004, 06:50
For those of you who have been to Attica less than 10 times...
STOP OFFERING TO LEAD OR GUN.
Both positions require some level of knowhow in offroad driving, offroad repairs, and offroad recovery.
Running a trail once, 5 months ago, does not qualify you to lead OR gun.
My grumpy $.02.
Hasta.

Beezil
January 13th, 2004, 07:07
For those of you who have been to Attica less than 10 times...
STOP OFFERING TO LEAD OR GUN.
Both positions require some level of knowhow in offroad driving, offroad repairs, and offroad recovery.
Running a trail once, 5 months ago, does not qualify you to lead OR gun.
My grumpy $.02.
Hasta.

so, I guess we're looking for another trail leader for orange?

bgcntry72
January 13th, 2004, 07:17
so, I guess we're looking for another trail leader for orange?
Ouch, man.
Very ouch.
Now its awn.
Take your vitamins.
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Beezil
January 13th, 2004, 07:24
whos making the rules here?

all I require is someone who KNOWS the trail. scott mac?

I don't give a fawk if the person has only driven it a handful of times.

that's why we get together on friday and have a trail-hand's run, to see whats different fromt he last time.

shit, I've been there a zillion times, that doesn't mean i can predict what orange or pink will look like the next time I show up....

BTW....you said we should do something kinda cool for our next "riverfest" gathering.....okay, so i got it....and this is my peace offering, since I refuse to be the guy offering rides on my pony like last time....I refuse to be entertainment so asshats can post pictures of me......I am brewing two kegs of fresh homebrew!!!

I will bring the beer, so leave me the fawk alone !!!!!

someone else is gonna have to stuff KY's wig down their pants. i already had my turn.

bgcntry72
January 13th, 2004, 07:32
Not me.
I would rather just run alone.
No skin off my ass.
As for entertainment, F U.
You will be tied up all day explaining Nalgene to the noobs, posing for pics acting a fool, and sharing inside jokes with total strangers.
Have a nice day, someplace else.
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Rufies97XJ
January 13th, 2004, 08:04
You guys need to hug and make up. :smootch:

HAHA :D

Fore Wheeler
January 13th, 2004, 08:07
I was going to offer to lead, but I've only been there 9 1/2 times, so I guess I'm out.

XJJPR
January 13th, 2004, 09:36
Are the two of you planning on some marriage consoling?

Sound like you need some!

:D

hinkley

Beezil
January 13th, 2004, 10:09
I guess it was me that pissed big cntry....

not my objective.

this is pm territory.

Rufies97XJ
January 13th, 2004, 12:01
I guess it was me that pissed on big cntry....




hey.. I said HUG.. not that... :twak:

MuddyXJ
January 13th, 2004, 14:43
For those of you who have been to Attica less than 10 times...
STOP OFFERING TO LEAD OR GUN.
Both positions require some level of knowhow in offroad driving, offroad repairs, and offroad recovery.
Running a trail once, 5 months ago, does not qualify you to lead OR gun.
My grumpy $.02.
Hasta.

I guess I'm out leading or gunning again since I have only been there the last three times and gunned 2 times and half lead a short part of Orange last year.

MuddyXJ
January 13th, 2004, 14:45
half lead a short part of Orange last year.

With open diffs front and back and little ole 31" tires.

4ward
January 13th, 2004, 14:47
I wouldn't be too worried about what Bg said. Last time I checked he's not the organizer of this event.

Sean

bgcntry72
January 13th, 2004, 15:32
I wouldn't be too worried about what Bg said. Last time I checked he's not the organizer of this event.

Sean
No I'm not.
I stated an opinion, and you are free to have yours.
Hasta.

EDIT: I was referring to preparedness in terms of tools, miles under the belt, experience coaching noobs, etc.
I just wanted things to go smoothly.
My bad.

DISCLAIMOR: I am having a rotten week, and am decisively more aggro than usual. Bear with me, please.

lesslimited
January 13th, 2004, 15:35
FWIW, I've run Green at least a dozen times, including a few times on 31s, 2.5" lift, and no rocker protection. I've also been all over that area on my ATV. Just don't want anyone to think I'll be leading them out there to die :rolleyes: That said, if there's enough volunteers, and others are as or more qualified, I'll be perfectly happy following. I just wanted to help out.

Beezil
January 13th, 2004, 15:46
Can we stop this shit right now?

jesus fawkin christ.....

there's no reason for this to turn into a soap opera....

I took my shit to PM and we're straight....

lets move on......

If big cntry is still up for it, he will lead orange trail.

ANYONE is free to volunteer, and scott mac and i will take things under consideration. I understand big country's opinion on the matter, and I understand his intent....he just wants to keep things neat and clean, and i respect that.....no harm no foul.

lets move on, there's plenty to talk about....

be on the lookout for my next post, I have an event sticker that will be available "at cost" for four bucks each to all interested attendees....The design is cool, many of you will recognize it....

hope you like it......

XJJPR
January 13th, 2004, 16:01
Beezil,

I want to lead a trail! The starting line up will have to be in JV though.

I have no experience and a bad attitude, will I work?

hinkley

LOL :D

4ward
January 13th, 2004, 16:41
Is your sticker gonna be on the same paper as the last ones you had made :rolleyes:

Hinkey, are ya too scared to leave the sunshine and come wheel the laundry tubs with us?

jjchgo
January 13th, 2004, 16:54
be on the lookout for my next post, I have an event sticker that will be available "at cost" for four bucks each to all interested attendees....The design is cool, many of you will recognize it....

hope you like it......

better not look anything like the blaxja sticker. we have copyrighties in place sucka.

cheers,

jj

Scott Mac.
January 13th, 2004, 18:07
The only requirements for trail leader are, experience in the level of the trail you're leading. Must have run the trail at least once in the past. Would like have them to be able to pre run the trail on the Friday before the event or have ran within' the past few months before the event. To posses good enough people skills where the folks you are leading are having a great time.

Green leader is Lesslimited
Orange leader is BigCountry
Pink leader TBD (any volunteers?)

Trail leaders will be able to pick their tail gunners out of the group on Saturday morning, if you can't find somebody to volunteer before hand.

This is Attica Indiana, not Moab Utah, not the Rubicon, not a big Jamboree.
The is a weekend get together that's sponsored by NAXJA.
And on that note all vehicles must meet NAXJA requirements.

SPONSORED EVENTS AND TRIP RULES

A Sponsored event is by definition an event in which NAXJA formally recognizes the Event as a NAXJA Event, and the Event is attended by at least one Director. Chapter Events must meet the same criteria. Formal recognition of an Event will be established by Board of Director voting procedures, and subsequent publication on the NAXJA website.

Event Regulations

Each Event will have an assigned Trail Master. The Trail Master will lead the Event always with safety in mind. The Trail Master will have ultimate decision making authority for “go/no-go” Event decisions, unless a higher ranking Officer is present at the Event, in which case that Officer has unilateral decision making authority. All event Attendees will follow Trail Master/Officer instructions at all times;

Events only consist of the off-road trail rides or other specially designated activities. The Event begins at the time of the pre-run Driver’s Meeting or functional equivalent, and ends when the group returns to a designated point. For multi-day events, this means that the NAXJA will not organize or coordinate camping or other activities, except as a service to the Members. The Event itself is limited to the organized trail rides;

If the designated Director fails to show up for a scheduled Event, that event is automatically canceled as a NAXJA Event. Any further activity by NAXJA Members or others will not be affiliated with NAXJA;

Each Attendee is ultimately responsible for his or her own safety. Safety concerns should be brought up to the Trail Master or an attending Officer immediately;

Members who choose to bring Guests on an Event are solely responsible for those Guests. Should the Trail Master or Officer determine that any Guest is posing a risk to safety, or simply to the enjoyment of the Event itself, that Guest may be asked to leave via host Member escort provided it is deemed safe to do so by the present ranking Director and/or Trail Master;

All participants must be defined as an Attendee, i.e., either Member or Guest. At no time will any other vehicle be allowed to join any Event. The Trail Master and/or Officer will enforce this policy;

Attendees will notify the Trail Master or an Officer prior to leaving the group for any reason. While NAXJA Directors cannot physically restrain any Attendee to prevent them from leaving, a safety assessment shall be made prior to approving any such action;

Attendees will adhere to Tread Lightly principles at all times. This includes the environment and also the Attendee’s vehicle. Attendees will not put their vehicles at undue risk of damage that would potentially delay the progress of an Event. The Trail Master and/or Officers will monitor Tread Lightly principles, and failure to comply may result in an Attendee being dismissed from an Event;

Alcoholic beverages and other controlled substances are prohibited while driving on or off-road. This includes consumption prior to an Event. Failure to comply will result in dismissal from the Event and probable termination of Membership;

Attendees shall dispose of all trash in designated containers or haul it back out in their vehicle;

No firearms shall be exposed or discharged at any time;

Attendees bringing pets must control them at all times;

Profane language should be used with discretion as NAXJA Events are family focused and there is a likelihood of small children being present.

All vehicles must have the following equipment to attend the off road portion NAXJA sponsored Events

Legally required automobile insurance and registration;

Fire extinguisher;

First Aid Kit;

Tow Rope (no metal hooks allowed), Tow Chain, or Winch;

Safety belts;

Spare tire, jack, and lug wrench;

Hooks both front and rear (or suitable attaching point)

CB (HIGHLY recommended, but not mandatory)

Fore Wheeler
January 13th, 2004, 23:32
I'll lead pink if necessary, unless someone else wants to, I'd be happy to follow too. We'll hopefully be there Thurs night-ish.

MuddyXJ
January 14th, 2004, 02:19
I have an idea, last year there were only 6 rigs that ran orange and about 20 ran green on Saturday. I was only planning on running green but since the group going that way was larger I went orange. Can we try to cut the group size down to about 10 each and stager the leaving times. It seems to be more enjoyable with the smaller groups as long as the "stop and chit chat" is left at a minimum.

Just a thought

macgyvr
January 14th, 2004, 13:20
Can we still run with the trail leaders if we are going to be there on Friday? Or are we on our own? Not trying to be an a$$, and figured it wouldn't be a problem, but wanted to double check.

mac 'only been to attica about 40-50 times in the last four years' gyvr

Fore Wheeler
January 14th, 2004, 13:25
we had a special meeting and decided that you weren't invited this year, so don't worry about it. :D

macgyvr
January 14th, 2004, 13:27
OK, guess i'll have to invite the INJT peps down then....

mac 'this would be the first time that it happened on purpose tho' gyvr

bgcntry72
January 14th, 2004, 13:37
My dead horse is being dragged around the yard.
bg 'im an asshole but I mean well' cntry72

Beezil
January 14th, 2004, 13:43
see you on friday.

anyone is free to wheel on friday if they want to, but the trail leaders will probably want to zip through the trails unhindered by a larger group if that is possible, just be aware that daylight hours are short, and those guys need to boogie.

Beezil
January 14th, 2004, 13:44
OK, guess i'll have to invite the INJT peps down then....

mac 'this would be the first time that it happened on purpose tho' gyvr

you jackass!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

yer just saying that shit to get my goat!!!!!

don't make me hurt you

XJJPR
January 14th, 2004, 13:51
yer just saying that shit to get my goat!!!!!



I can't believe anyone would ever do that to you, Beezil! :rolleyes:

hinkley

macgyvr
January 14th, 2004, 13:52
:moon:

been sitting here sucking my thumb awaiting your reply LOL

mac ' :goat: 'gyvr





you jackass!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

yer just saying that shit to get my goat!!!!!

don't make me hurt you

Beezil
January 14th, 2004, 14:11
well, when i see you in attica, you can give your thumb a break.

macgyvr
January 14th, 2004, 14:40
:looser:

suck it

still got your goat...

mac ' :flipoff2: 'gyvr

Scott Mac.
January 14th, 2004, 16:31
I'll lead pink if necessary, unless someone else wants to, I'd be happy to follow too. We'll hopefully be there Thurs night-ish.

Bob Loose finally emailed me back saying that he'd would be happy to lead Pink but reminded me that he doesn't have a winch. That's something I forgot to mention in my previous post is that I'd like to see a couple of winches on Pink spread through out the pack.

Dan, you can take the #2 spot and we'll make sure to have somebody with a winch tail gun for you guys.

lesslimited
January 14th, 2004, 21:13
[QUOTE=Scott Mac.] Would like have them to be able to pre run the trail on the Friday before the event or have ran within' the past few months before the event.

Cool, this gives me an excuse to come down friday morning instead of evening. I'll have had more than enough of work by then anyway, and I'm already suffering from 4wheeling withdrawal.

What Rd
January 14th, 2004, 21:28
Bob Loose finally emailed me back saying that he'd would be happy to lead Pink but reminded me that he doesn't have a winch. That's something I forgot to mention in my previous post is that I'd like to see a couple of winches on Pink spread through out the pack.

Dan, you can take the #2 spot and we'll make sure to have somebody with a winch tail gun for you guys.

Minor hijack in progress:
So just how long a trail IS pink? TRL WGN and I played around on what we could find of it last November. That only amounted to two obstacles, though. One on each side of a very tall stone dome - one was a drop off a large boulder with an uneven edge and around the other side was a notched and off-camber ledge to climb. That took all of a few minutes - but we didn't spot any more of the trail leading off in any direction.
Is there more? Tell me there's more! :dunno:
If there's more to it, I bet you could twist TRL WGN's arm and get him to tailgun pink. ;)

4ward
January 14th, 2004, 23:14
There's a heck of a lot more to it. That was only did the begining. You have to loop back around and go into the woods on the other side of the main road into the quarry. Nothin' to it once you find the 2nd section.

What Rd
January 15th, 2004, 06:32
There's a heck of a lot more to it. That was only did the begining. You have to loop back around and go into the woods on the other side of the main road into the quarry. Nothin' to it once you find the 2nd section.
Schweet - thanx. That's where I'll be then.

Fore Wheeler
January 15th, 2004, 08:02
Bob Loose finally emailed me back saying that he'd would be happy to lead Pink but reminded me that he doesn't have a winch. That's something I forgot to mention in my previous post is that I'd like to see a couple of winches on Pink spread through out the pack.

Dan, you can take the #2 spot and we'll make sure to have somebody with a winch tail gun for you guys.



that's fine, I've been looking forward to playing with Bob anyhow.

we'll figure the rest out when we get there.

Fore "busses rule" Wheeler

bgcntry72
January 15th, 2004, 09:06
that's fine, I've been looking forward to playing with Bob anyhow.
Fore "busses rule" Wheeler

http://home.off-road.com/~kemanuel/emoticons/idhitit.jpg
:D

Rufies97XJ
January 15th, 2004, 09:29
http://home.off-road.com/~kemanuel/emoticons/idhitit.jpg
:D

:gee: :laugh3:


hey BG.. I'll follow ya around some trails, had a good time there last time!
I can stay in 4lo now..HAHA

TRL WGN 1
January 16th, 2004, 07:25
There's a heck of a lot more to it. That was only did the begining. You have to loop back around and go into the woods on the other side of the main road into the quarry. Nothin' to it once you find the 2nd section.

Well Sean, why didn't you inform us of this in November? I asked if that was all there was, and you said, "yep, that's about it". Just because you were in the middle of fixing B's junk, don't mean nothin. :D I remember a hack saw, a hydraulic hose, and a 38" SX. Ring any bells?

Yeah, you can probably talk me into bringing up the rear, but you have to talk REAL sweet to me ;)

Only thing is, I am not sure at this point if I will be able to be there any earlier than Saturday, but if I am just running at the end, don't think it will make much difference. I am pretty good at following, and I have done some winching a time or two.

Scott Mac.
January 16th, 2004, 18:30
Yeah, you can probably talk me into bringing up the rear, but you have to talk REAL sweet to me ;)



Only if you..........never mind, I'm not going to touch it.

4ward
January 16th, 2004, 21:11
[QUOTE=TRL WGN 1]Well Sean, why didn't you inform us of this in November? I asked if that was all there was, and you said, "yep, that's about it". [QUOTE]

You believe everything you hear? I musta misuderstood what you were talking about at the time.

Beezil
January 16th, 2004, 21:35
musta seen it on the internet.