Cutting off cast perch

JeepFreak21 · Jan 9, 2004

I have a 44 out of a '76 f-250 and it has the cast spring perch on the driver's side (just like THIS one). I'm wondering how much of that POS I can cut off. I know with the cast radius arm mounts, you can't cut any off, but I beleive the tube goes quite a ways into the housing on this.
I'm going to be using brackets like THESE and don't want to have the whole left side held on by a cast weld.
Thanks!
Billy

Gary E · Jan 9, 2004

Why not just leave the wedges and run radius arms? to easy and effective?

Economos · Jan 9, 2004

Gary E said:
Why not just leave the wedges and run radius arms? to easy and effective?

That's what I'd do... if those were radius arm mounts: F-250 = leaf spring perches.

Gary E · Jan 9, 2004

oops if only I could read

Economos said:
That's what I'd do... if those were radius arm mounts: F-250 = leaf spring perches.

JeepFreak21 · Jan 9, 2004

Gary E said:
Why not just leave the wedges and run radius arms? to easy and effective?

Economos said:
That's what I'd do... if those were radius arm mounts: F-250 = leaf spring perches.

FarmerMatt · Jan 9, 2004

I'd just leave it be. You'll get a good weld on the inside of the bracket & than have the cast weld on the outside of the bracket.

Matt

JeepFreak21 · Jan 9, 2004

FarmerMatt said:
I'd just leave it be. You'll get a good weld on the inside of the bracket & than have the cast weld on the outside of the bracket.

Matt

By my measurements, it looks like the whole bead on both brackets (that make up the left side) will be on cast. Does that change anything for you?
Billy

JeepFreak21 · Jan 9, 2004

Any other input before I hack it off tomorrow?

XJJPR · Jan 10, 2004

Weld it to the cast and support it to the tube.

mark

JeepFreak21 · Jan 10, 2004

Mark Hinkley said:
Weld it to the cast and support it to the tube.

mark

I don't think I have any room to support to the tube because the spring will be in the way. :helpme:

FarmerMatt · Jan 10, 2004

I'd still weld it to the cast. What type welder do you have?

Matt

Economos · Jan 10, 2004

FarmerMatt said:
I'd still weld it to the cast. What type welder do you have?

Matt

Welding to cast requires a high-nickle content rod, correct?

JeepFreak21 · Jan 10, 2004

Matt - I really only have access to a 220 gas mig.

Economos - Crash told me I didn't need nickle. He recommended that I run a nice fat bead where the bracket's going to go... let it cool all the way down and then weld the bracket to the bead.

XJJPR · Jan 10, 2004

Actually your best move for welding to the cast is to run a small root weld, let the heat saturate the part for a while and then do a nice fat bead across the cast/root bead/bracket area. A good mig with c25 gas will work fine.

Or you can preheat the cast with a torch to about 400 +/- and weld it up in one fat pass.

mark

JeepFreak21 · Jan 10, 2004

Mark Hinkley said:
Actually your best move for welding to the cast is to run a small root weld, let the heat saturate the part for a while and then do a nice fat bead across the cast/root bead/bracket area. A good mig with c25 gas will work fine.

Or you can preheat the cast with a torch to about 400 +/- and weld it up in one fat pass.

mark

Do you think cutting it off is a bad idea or just a waste of time?

Economos · Jan 10, 2004

JeepFreak21 said:
Do you think cutting it off is a bad idea or just a waste of time?

If you try cutting it off, won't there be a "hole" in the tube where the cast perch use to be?

JeepFreak21 · Jan 10, 2004

Economos said:
If you try cutting it off, won't there be a "hole" in the tube where the cast perch use to be?

No... that's with the cast radius arms. The tube goes a ways under the cast leaf perch. Dazz cut his off when he did his 44 swap like a week or so ago... I just wanna make sure it's not going to make the tube pull out or anything (which I doubt).
Billy

Economos · Jan 10, 2004

JeepFreak21 said:
No... that's with the cast radius arms. The tube goes a ways under the cast leaf perch. Dazz cut his off when he did his 44 swap like a week or so ago... I just wanna make sure it's not going to make the tube pull out or anything (which I doubt).
Billy

Ok, cause I knew that was the case with the radius arm mounts, but wasn't sure about the leaf spring mounts.

FarmerMatt · Jan 10, 2004

If you have access to a stick welder at all than your best option would be to get some high nickle rod & go to work. With the mig take Marks advise. Preheat the area & also post heat so it cools slow. I'm afraid if you cut it off it would weaken the housing too much.

Matt

XJJPR · Jan 10, 2004

Bad idea.

mark

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