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TRL WGN 1
December 11th, 2003, 15:50
I am planning no being there, with my girlfriend, and maybe my buddy who road along the last time several of us got together.
Who else is planning on attending?

GI-John
December 11th, 2003, 17:05
Already told the ole' lady I'm going...not sure if she's gonna want to go or not.

Hope to see the rest of the midwest gang there. :wierd: :looser:

Rev Den
December 11th, 2003, 17:15
Count me in. Should I plan on Saturday only? I understand that Winterfest is a smaller event and Badlands is not that big, this is why I ask.



Rev

Beezil
December 11th, 2003, 17:30
Im in and am gonna try my best NOT to be denied int eh quarry!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I'm bringing a case of dana 60 shafts

lesslimited
December 11th, 2003, 17:42
I'll be there with plenty of kindling wood and beer... Oh yeah, and my XJ :laugh3:

Sponge Bob
December 11th, 2003, 17:56
Sponge Bob will be there.

Walter B.
December 11th, 2003, 17:58
I'm there! Any body got the number to the BB in attica

RNMedic
December 11th, 2003, 19:51
me too I'll call in sick for the weekend if I have to, John

Bob Lester
December 11th, 2003, 20:01
Roll bar protection for ALL occupants in vehicle. :huh:
I thought about going too, but I saw the above in the rules for the Badlands.
So what's up with that, do you need roll bar in my XJ?

Walter B.
December 11th, 2003, 20:07
Roll bar protection for ALL occupants in vehicle. :huh:
I thought about going too, but I saw the above in the rules for the Badlands.
So what's up with that, do you need roll bar in my XJ?

You don't need a cage unless you cut the top off your cherokee.

Lou
December 11th, 2003, 20:09
ima planning...

What Rd
December 11th, 2003, 20:12
Count me in!! Don't know yet whether the wife will come along - that may depend on how she likes the New Year's Day run at Rockport.

Bob -
Don't sweat the rollbar requirement. Your roof suffices. That rule is directed to those running lesser Jeeps without roofs.

I'm thinking about making it a two-day trip this time. Who's thinking one day - and who's thinking two?

seanR
December 11th, 2003, 20:19
We will be there! We already have our reservations at the NEW Attica Inn.

LBEXJ
December 11th, 2003, 20:25
I'll be there for sure. The last time everyone got together at Badlands, I came in later in the morning and missed too damn much fun. I'll roll my ass out of bed earlier this time (and my son's ass too if he comes).

I should be able to bring some wood for y'all too. I don't have to haul very far, so it's not a problem.

Les

bgcntry72
December 11th, 2003, 20:34
I will be there.
Maybe with the wife, maybe with a circus midget and a handicam.
Fear me.
Bastards.
:wave:

GI-John
December 11th, 2003, 20:47
I will be there.

Fear me.



Are you gonna try to hump my leg again? If so, I'm scared already.

And if the wife isn't going, who will notice when my tire is left behind me somewhere on the trail?

GI John

Bob Lester
December 11th, 2003, 21:53
You don't need a cage unless you cut the top off your cherokee.
Cool :)

SewerBoss
December 12th, 2003, 05:27
I'll be there, camping or staying in Lafayette depending on the weather.

Beezil
December 12th, 2003, 05:30
why is everyone bringing wood????

like you wussies will use it....

you'll all just dive into the hotel like you did last year.....

"waaa! its too cold waaaa!

and you call yourselves jeepers.

:bs:

Fore Wheeler
December 12th, 2003, 06:33
[QUOTE=Beezil]why is everyone bringing wood????

QUOTE]


I'll be sportin wood.

I think I might camp at the campground this year at the entrance, use their power to heat the bus and run the TV/DVD combo I just bought for the ol' girl, and then again I'll prob be at the hotel drinkin, and chewin, and drinkin.

Prob have kids again, but we'll see.

This is on the 21th, eh?

bgcntry72
December 12th, 2003, 06:33
Where did you stay last year?
Please refresh my memory.
Picturing a 2000 lbs. spoon, if you get my drift.
Hasta.

MuddyXJ
December 12th, 2003, 06:44
I'm planning to make it Friday AM and stay until something breaks or Sunday afternoon. Probably hoteling it this year but I'm not sure.

Rev Den
December 12th, 2003, 07:28
"waaa! its too cold waaaa!

and you call yourselves jeepers.

:bs:

Ohh NO.....you did not just say that!!!

Listen Bubba....as one who TOWS his junk down there, and then sleeps in a comfy tow vehicle, you should NOT be the one to cast stones, unless you ass is in a tent you have no room to question the hotel rats.

Rev
Unemployeed, but still staying at "The Inn"

SewerBoss
December 12th, 2003, 07:52
Actually, I laughed when I woke up and saw Beezil. All the windows down, and the rear hatch up. Even less protection than a tent. Of course, I did go temporarily blind when the sun reflected off of his head :laugh:

Ohh NO.....you did not just say that!!!

Listen Bubba....as one who TOWS his junk down there, and then sleeps in a comfy tow vehicle, you should NOT be the one to cast stones, unless you ass is in a tent you have no room to question the hotel rats.

Rev
Unemployeed, but still staying at "The Inn"

IntrepidXJ
December 12th, 2003, 08:05
i should be there :)

ChEwBaCcA
December 12th, 2003, 08:07
I hope to be there, i dont think I can miss it.

If everyones outside , ill suck it up and stay outside....if we do the huanted hotel im game for that as well

Hope we find Jub Jub or who ever JJ's chick is/was....and hope there ISNT a wedding that weekend....leaves no women but 2, 50+ divorcee's in town ;-(

Chewy
PS: even those were looking good after 2-3 hours in the bar

4ward
December 12th, 2003, 08:30
I'm all about the haunted hotel if I make it. B, you're sooooo hardcore. Can I be like you when I grow up to be a man?

Rufies97XJ
December 12th, 2003, 09:10
I should be there.. may bring a few others if they can get thier rigs running. Hopefully.. I'll be able to talk someone into getting my lift fabbed up by then!

TRL WGN 1
December 12th, 2003, 10:56
I'm all about the haunted hotel if I make it. B, you're sooooo hardcore. Can I be like you when I grow up to be a man?

man Sean, you said a spoonful there, er, I mean mouthful, that's it

:cheers:

Flowers
December 12th, 2003, 13:14
I'll be there for the party and to laugh at Beezil. I don't see the MJ being finished by then. I'll sleep wherever Chewy sleeps. Snuggling with a Wookie will keep me warm.

Flowers

Lou
December 12th, 2003, 15:49
:shhh: Uhm....with all this snuggling and dry-humping....maybe i'll stay home..

_________________:shiver:________________

Fore Wheeler
December 13th, 2003, 08:49
:shhh: Uhm....with all this snuggling and dry-humping....maybe i'll stay home..

_________________:shiver:________________


This is just the things that we can say on the public forums, you should attend just for the freak factor. Kind of like looking at dead animals on the side of the road, you can't help it.

What Rd
December 13th, 2003, 21:09
This is just the things that we can say on the public forums, you should attend just for the freak factor. Kind of like looking at dead animals on the side of the road, you can't help it.

Damn, Dan -
You been scraping dinner outta your bus' wheelwells again?

:chef:

KY Chris
December 13th, 2003, 22:50
iI'll be there for sure. Camping or whatever. It'll be a good time :)

XJRubicon
December 15th, 2003, 10:47
I am thinking about checkin out the badlands with you guys, but...I can't seem to find the dates of the event..

also... being in Feb... that sounds like full carhart gear... right?

Snow wheelin rocks!

ChiXJeff
December 15th, 2003, 11:34
It's listed as Feb. 21 in the Winterfest Forum description on the main forums page.

Ya never know what the weather in IN is gonna be for the WinterFext. It may be cold, it may be 40 degrees. It may be snowing, sludging, raining, or have the sun shining. Be prepared for snow and/or rain.

I don't know if I'm going to make it yet.

macgyvr
December 15th, 2003, 15:17
iI'll be there for sure. Camping or whatever. It'll be a good time :)


Ditto

mac 'usually preplan to hotel it' gyvr

Safari Ary
December 15th, 2003, 15:49
Depending on if I get my axles under the Heep by then, I may be there. It's a long haul for me. 8+ hours, but I gotta meet some of you guys. Tellico is 6.5 hours from me and is definately worth the drive, is Attica as good as tellico??(i.e. is it worth the drive?) If I don't make it, I'll definately be at NACfest and the Crawl.

Ary

Pat
December 15th, 2003, 16:52
Ary-
Is it worth 8+ hours? I don't want to talk you out of it, but I'd have to say no. It takes me a little longer than that to get to Tellico, and I think that's worth it. But to drive that long to get to Attica, I wouldn't feel the same. No comparison to Tellico. Other factors, if you get your swap done and are on 35s or bigger....some may "force" you to do purgatory (*could* cause you to do some work before you make the haul home).

All that being said, it's a good time, and I plan on being there. I'd like to camp if its not as cold as it was last year.

Pat

Bob Lester
December 15th, 2003, 17:31
Depending on if I get my axles under the Heep by then, I may be there. It's a long haul for me. 8+ hours, but I gotta meet some of you guys. Tellico is 6.5 hours from me and is definately worth the drive, is Attica as good as tellico??(i.e. is it worth the drive?) If I don't make it, I'll definately be at NACfest and the Crawl.

Ary
Ary
I am planning on going. I am in Woodbridge VA, and thought if you would like to join up, we could travel together or meet somewhere. Gary -- [lightning]
is also thinking about taking the trip. If you would like to ride with one of us, let me know. I also would like to meet these fellows too. I checked map quest and it is 11 hours from Woodbridge. :smoker:
Bob

Beezil
December 15th, 2003, 18:19
I feel obligated to answer this quetion honestly, so there is no disappointment....

if attica was four hours away, and tellico was eight, Id take on the tellico trip more often .....not that tellico is the end-all-be-all, but it is bigger, and has longer trails since that is what most people are used to...."trail riding"....

atticas longest trail by "yardage" takes a couple hours in a small group....if we did it in a timed event, I'm sure orange trail could be run in 15 minutes or so...I surely don't want to wreck anyones buzz, but I want to describe the park accruately, especially for anyone traveling a long distance.....the place is small. It is no tellico, and it is certainly no paragon.

however, we have a crazy time there! We have a blast on "trail" no matter how short they are, there is lots to discover.....We've been going down there for years, and it never disappoints! Consider it more an "obstacle park" especially wehn we end up int he quarry...It is condusive to both an organized "trail ride" as it is a "do your own thing".....

by acreage it is on the small side, but none the less, everyone will have a good time.....

I just want everyone to know what kind of place it is so they get the right picture....

Fore Wheeler
December 16th, 2003, 07:39
I agree with BJ, I make the trip every year and it's 6 hours for me. I wouldn't miss it, it's a good time to be had by all, I even bring my kids sometimes and they love it.

jjchgo
December 17th, 2003, 09:22
Ditto

mac 'usually preplan to hotel it' gyvr

dont even act like your gonna camp mac...lol. looking forward to seeing ya none the less.

i will be there fo sho.

cheers,

jj

bgcntry72
December 17th, 2003, 10:14
Never been to Tellico, but I love Paragon.
Attica is 3-4 hours from me in Milwaukee, depending on Chi-traffic, and its worth it to me.
Especially Winterfest.
I agree with all who said that Attica has packed as much as you can possibly do into 1300 or so acres.
If you are a snowboarder, Attica is more like a park with a pipe or two than an all mountain freeride.
Good times, good times.
I will be there with the wife in tow, staying at the Attica Inn, and making Blind Russians.
Looking forward to meeting/seeing you all.
:D

Rev Den
December 17th, 2003, 10:56
I will be there with the wife in tow, staying at the Attica Inn, and making Blind Russians.
Looking forward to meeting/seeing you all.
:D


Wooooo Hoooo....now the party starts.


Rev

seanR
December 17th, 2003, 11:58
Look Out Attica! :scared:

Bloose
January 6th, 2004, 00:29
I'll be there. I will not be hoteling it this year. I will have the bus and will likely park it next to where ever Fourwheeler parks his.

B-loose

ILLXJ
January 6th, 2004, 02:44
I should be there Fri. around noon. Will be staying until Sun. around noon. Staying at the campground outside the park. See ya there.

Fore Wheeler
January 6th, 2004, 08:12
I'll be there. I will not be hoteling it this year. I will have the bus and will likely park it next to where ever Fourwheeler parks his.

B-loose


We are so freakin cool Bob. :cool: Can't wait.

BTW, we'll be parked at the campground at the front of the park, I don't have reservations yet but I really don't think there will be any problems getting a spot.

lesslimited
January 6th, 2004, 19:51
If you guys are gonna be at the campground, I guess I'll bring the Winnebago. A nice fringe benefit of staying there is that the owner is the Badlands gatekeeper, so campers get in first. Maybe we can jeep-pool down to the bar or other party spots? I can handle either designated driver or designated drunk. :cheers:

KY Chris
January 6th, 2004, 21:26
We are so freakin cool Bob. :cool: Can't wait.

BTW, we'll be parked at the campground at the front of the park, I don't have reservations yet but I really don't think there will be any problems getting a spot.

Bus races???

Bloose
January 6th, 2004, 22:40
Bus races???

Mine will lose! Dan's has an After Cooler mine doesn't. Plus, he is missing 1/2 the rear of his bus, mine is all there still.


Dan,

Do you have any suggestions for heat??? I know what you are using and it's not a bad idea, but I am having a tough time thinking of where to mount an LP tank. I may put the tank inside for this trip. When the weather warms up I would have time to come up with a place to mount the tanks but for now it's too damn cold and I have no time. How bad of an Idea would it be to have the tank inside with the heater? I'd love to do a Diesel heater. I guess they are common on sail boats and they can be used as a stove too. They are too pricey for now and I wouldn't have time to install it right now. Maybe that could be my long term solution. Any other suggestions???

B-loose

Fore Wheeler
January 6th, 2004, 22:55
Bob, I don't like mine, it puts out too much heat and the thing gets to 200* when you stand up and it's still 24* at your feet. I'm going to look for an RV forced air furnace, there's an RV salvage yard on the MI/IN border right off US 131, I think it's called Bontragers, I could be wrong on the name tho, but that's where I'm going to look, a friend of mine bought a new furnace for $300. I've found that you really need the heat/air moving around to make it effective. The advantage you have is that you have twice the space so a furnace/heater like mine might work better for you than me. I'm going to use it at winterfest and bring a fan to plug into their 110 to make it more comfortable, plus I'm planning on using some elect. heaters as well, that may heat me just fine by it's self.

As far as the tank inside, I used a 20 lb tank inside with some 'buddy heaters' for the first winter and that worked fine, you may want to just curtain off the non sleeping area and use something small for heat till you get zactly what you want. I'm taking full advantage of the elect on this weekend.

I'll race you up rock face with the busses if you want LOL.

Beezil
January 7th, 2004, 05:52
man, bus drivers are wussies

4ward
January 7th, 2004, 07:23
Why don't you just put in a ceiling fan? They are pretty cheap and seems like it would be easier than doing an entire furnace and ventilation system.

Sean

Fore Wheeler
January 7th, 2004, 08:20
man, bus drivers are wussies


You're just jealous I have a place to park a bus.

Fore Wheeler
January 7th, 2004, 08:23
Why don't you just put in a ceiling fan? They are pretty cheap and seems like it would be easier than doing an entire furnace and ventilation system.

Sean

yea, lets set the scene:

drink a bunch of beers, drag my drunk arse back to the bus, chop the top third of my head off via ceiling fan cuz I forgot it was there.

furnace is still a better option.

What Rd
January 7th, 2004, 11:50
yea, lets set the scene:

drink a bunch of beers, drag my drunk arse back to the bus, chop the top third of my head off via ceiling fan cuz I forgot it was there.

furnace is still a better option.

Why? Were you using that part of your head for something?

:rof:

4ward
January 7th, 2004, 11:57
Why? Were you using that part of your head for something?

:rof:
Yeah, a hat rack :gee:

Fore Wheeler
January 7th, 2004, 12:09
no, it's the middle half I don't use. :looney:

Scott Mac.
January 7th, 2004, 17:38
no, it's the middle half I don't use. :looney:

A sideeffect of marriage.



Bob, nice to see you'll be making it.

Dirk Pitt
January 8th, 2004, 01:15
if i can get away from work i'll probably come, but since i'm pretty much a stocker (at least for another few months) i'll mainly watch or maybe hitch a ride and try and learn a thing or two.

i'll probably bring a camera and shoot a boatload of digital video unless there are any objections.

Fore Wheeler
January 8th, 2004, 09:26
if i can get away from work i'll probably come, but since i'm pretty much a stocker (at least for another few months) i'll mainly watch or maybe hitch a ride and try and learn a thing or two.

i'll probably bring a camera and shoot a boatload of digital video unless there are any objections.


stockers are good too, make sure you have front/rear tow points tho.

Videos are good, you can film me all day, I'm a real sexy kind of guy.

Rev Den
January 8th, 2004, 11:05
Don't be hesitant just because you are stock. There are challanges for everyone. At the very least you will meet a great group of people, and some very strange individuals.


Rev

TealV6
January 12th, 2004, 11:04
Videos are good, you can film me all day, I'm a real sexy kind of guy.

:gee: about that good looking.. eh :D

Fore Wheeler
January 12th, 2004, 11:20
:gee: about that good looking.. eh :D



If only big bellys were as sexy as big tits, I'd be one sexy mother fawker!!

TealV6
January 12th, 2004, 12:49
If only big bellys were as sexy as big tits, I'd be one sexy mother fawker!!

I think that MOST of us would if that statement were true. Just make sure you keep that sexy belly hidden! :wierd:

TRL WGN 1
January 16th, 2004, 08:03
I think that MOST of us would if that statement were true. Just make sure you keep that sexy belly hidden! :wierd:

PLEASE!!

And Dan, just because you have a bus, doesn't make you cool, or give you the right to flaunt the gut. :D It does however make others jealous, but only of the bus, not the belly

Fore Wheeler
January 16th, 2004, 19:17
PLEASE!!

And Dan, just because you have a bus, doesn't make you cool, or give you the right to flaunt the gut. :D It does however make others jealous, but only of the bus, not the belly


Hey, it's my story and I'm stickin to it.

Bloose
January 16th, 2004, 19:54
Dan,

I was looking through the Johnstone catalog at work the other night for bus heating solutions. I ran across a fan that you mount on a garage heater like the type you have. The fan kit was about $70 and I though it might be a nice solution for your hot air circ problem.

As for my bus I was thinking about something. My bus still has the under seat heaters front and rear. There is also a circ pump under the hood. If there were a way for me to heat water enough to run through the under seat heaters I would be set. Problem is, I don't know where I could get a water heater with enough BTU's but small enough to easily conceal.

B-loose

Beezil
January 16th, 2004, 20:17
I think you wussies should just stud the walls with 2x4's, wrap the outside with tyvek, stuff the wall with R-13 owens corning glass, and throw some 3/4" sheetrock up....

replace the cheap bus windows with either marvin or andersen.....

a skylight and track lighting wouldn' hurt.

put in a flagstone hearth for the trip to attica without the kids.

Fore Wheeler
January 17th, 2004, 00:52
bob, I've seen those fans for my heater, they sell them at TSC as well, the biggest problem is that it requires 110, (I really want 12v) which in the middle of the woods doesn't do me any good. I've kept the rear under seat heater as well, it's the only way to keep the thing warm while on the road. I still think I'm gonna keep my eyes open for an RV furnace, even if it's out of an old camper, alot of times you can pick up something (whole trailer) from the 70's/80s pretty cheap.

B, already have in the works a full glass sun porch, sky lights to span the length of the bus, decided to go 2x6s so I can get an R19, oak planks for the walls and using 1/2 logs for the outside so it looks like a cabin, and the windows will have to stay stock cuz I spent my remodel money on the tile floor. :)

Bloose
January 17th, 2004, 03:43
bob, I've seen those fans for my heater, they sell them at TSC as well, the biggest problem is that it requires 110, (I really want 12v) which in the middle of the woods doesn't do me any good. I've kept the rear under seat heater as well, it's the only way to keep the thing warm while on the road. I still think I'm gonna keep my eyes open for an RV furnace, even if it's out of an old camper, alot of times you can pick up something (whole trailer) from the 70's/80s pretty cheap.

B, already have in the works a full glass sun porch, sky lights to span the length of the bus, decided to go 2x6s so I can get an R19, oak planks for the walls and using 1/2 logs for the outside so it looks like a cabin, and the windows will have to stay stock cuz I spent my remodel money on the tile floor. :)

What about an inverter? About $40 for a 400W model. Should be enough to run the fan. I have two inverters on my bus. A 2kW for the microwave and refer and a .4kW for my laptop that I use for GPS. If you go the inverter route then you have 110vac on the road as well as in the boonies. With dual batts you can run them pretty long before discharge. I wouldn't think it would be a whole lot different than running a 12v fan. I was just thinking then you could use what you already have and save a bit of hassle. But, dual RV heaters would be nice too.

Beezil,

As far as being a wuss, yes I'll admit it. I've slept out in the cold, I've roughed it for many years (I was in a tent so not as rough as you've done it) :shiver: :rattle: . When you have a bus why in the hell would you go out of your way to be miserable? Just to show everyone what a man you are? What are you trying to compensate for? I can't get a good night sleep when I'm in one of those mummy bags. I also don't sleep well when I'm freezing my ass off. And when I don't sleep I'm a crabby a-hole. So shove it in your blow hole! :cry: :mad: ;)


B-loose

MuddyXJ
January 17th, 2004, 04:17
What about an inverter? About $40 for a 400W model. Should be enough to run the fan. I have two inverters on my bus. With dual batts you can run them pretty long before discharge.

When I was an OTR driver I had a 1000W inverter that ran a fridge, microwave, coffee pot, Playstation, 2 burner hot plate and TV that was continuously on and the only time I needed to turn it off was when it was below 32 degrees and I wasn't in the truck for more then 3 days. They do have a safety shut off switch on most of them now that will shut down when the battery gets drained to a certain point.

Fore Wheeler
January 17th, 2004, 06:10
With dual batts you can run them pretty long before discharge.

B-loose


how long is 'pretty long'? Honestly I haven't had any experiance with inverters. I'd hate even more to be stuck with dead batterys.

Beezil
January 17th, 2004, 06:59
if "sleeping out in the cold" is "miserable", you suck at being outdoors!

once you get into a qulaity sleeping bag appropriately rated, the outside temperature is MOOT!

if your sleeping bag's liner has a print with various waterfowl, throw it out!

Fore Wheeler
January 17th, 2004, 09:01
if your sleeping bag's liner has a print with various waterfowl, throw it out!


waterfowl is bad, but how bout the one I have with sponge bob? That should be a good one.

Bloose
January 17th, 2004, 19:08
Dan,

How long the batts would last depends on the type of battery and how much load is on the inverter, also how much loss there is in the inverter. We had the fridge run all night and there was no problem at all starting up in the AM. Running the refer in the camper over night set at 12VDC with the campers deep cycle and the Jeeps batt caused completely dead batterys. If you run a fan on 12VDC you'll be draining at pretty much the same rate. I have one of those jumper packs and that will get the bus going, on a warm day anyway. A spare charged batt may not be a terrible idea. Plus if you have the Jeep along there would be no problem jumping the bus if needed.

B-loose

What Rd
January 17th, 2004, 20:35
When in doubt, burn a dinosaur. Get a gas powered generator.

Chark
January 18th, 2004, 09:03
Hey....I'm not coming up there....last year I was "forced to drink....cuss....look at nekid women...and have fun".....too much for a man my age!!! Later, Chark....pouting in Ohio!

4ward
January 18th, 2004, 11:08
Hey....I'm not coming up there....last year I was "forced to drink....cuss....look at nekid women...and have fun".....too much for a man my age!!! Later, Chark....pouting in Ohio!

Who asked you to come anyhow :moon:

Fore Wheeler
January 18th, 2004, 16:31
Hey....I'm not coming up there....last year I was "forced to drink....cuss....look at nekid women...and have fun".....too much for a man my age!!! Later, Chark....pouting in Ohio!


You just need more practice ya ol' man, one more year of training and you'll feel like a young'in again. That is if you have the nads for it?

bgcntry72
January 19th, 2004, 06:24
Barkeaters lament.
Hey Chark, I can understand your worries.
If my rig had one ton gear and I flopped it on Orange trail, I would strongly reconsider my choice of hobbies too. :D
Hope you can make it man.
Hasta.

Rufies97XJ
January 20th, 2004, 08:30
Well.. I will be there... either with my rig or riding with someone...

ChEwBaCcA
January 20th, 2004, 21:43
if "sleeping out in the cold" is "miserable", you suck at being outdoors!

once you get into a qulaity sleeping bag appropriately rated, the outside temperature is MOOT!

if your sleeping bag's liner has a print with various waterfowl, throw it out!


lol , i think mine does....... mark me down on the LAME side

LBEXJ
January 20th, 2004, 22:50
if "sleeping out in the cold" is "miserable", you suck at being outdoors!

once you get into a qulaity sleeping bag appropriately rated, the outside temperature is MOOT!

if your sleeping bag's liner has a print with various waterfowl, throw it out!


Beezil ... I take it you're not doing a motel? Those that plan to camp ... are they staying at the campground or down by the river (wherever this is)? Probably do not need to make reservations since it's not really "camping season", but if I do, I will.

Winter is the BEST time for camping ...

Les

Beezil
January 21st, 2004, 05:38
well, I was gonna camp last time, but no one else would, so I joined the lameasses.

4ward
January 21st, 2004, 05:53
well, I was gonna camp last time, but no one else would, so I joined the lameasses.

Whadda ya mean join- you're the king lame ass. We bow down to your lame assness :worship:

Rufies97XJ
January 21st, 2004, 06:14
:worship:

jjchgo
January 21st, 2004, 09:55
well, I was gonna camp last time, but no one else would, so I joined the lameasses.


dont even try that i had all my gear and was ready for a night under the stars. but i do remember a certain(chewy)who unpacked all his camping gear before we even left the burbs.

cheers,

jj

LBEXJ
January 21st, 2004, 18:06
Yeah ... well fu*k ... I just remembered my tent was washed away last spring during the floods. My son was out with his buds and left it for a couple of days. The water came out of the bank and washed it into the trees and brush ... we found it later during mushroom season ... wasted.

I'll have to either get a new one or make do with a tarp ... either way ... Buck (my son) and I are camping (unless it rains .. of course).

Who needs fancy gear anyway ...

Les

Beezil
January 21st, 2004, 18:15
whats a tent?

LBEXJ
January 21st, 2004, 18:21
Man ... you are one rugged camper if you are able to wake up with frost on "yer ass". :laugh3: It's a campers prophylactic ...

Les

Beezil
January 21st, 2004, 18:25
tents are shelter from rain, its the only time they are really useful.....

but I prefer dodges anyway.

ILLXJ
January 21st, 2004, 20:58
Hey, I know 1 person who "camped" last year. I stayed in the Jeep right next to the big blue bus. Nice & cozy.

Fore Wheeler
January 21st, 2004, 22:02
I camped too, in the big blue bus, so did my wife and kids, and someone elses kid too.

ChEwBaCcA
January 22nd, 2004, 08:00
"Now for the rest of the story"

I had my camping gear ready to roll out and BEEZIL called and said "forget it, too cold, everyones at the hotel"
Thus I unload my gear.... i was ready w. the heater and my waterfowl printed sleeping bag! He called so I didnt have to drag all my junk there and back

It was -30 or more down off the river....... unless you got mad gear and skills...thats nothing to play around with. It has nothing to do w/ how big your sack or junk is!

jjchgo
January 22nd, 2004, 08:14
"Now for the rest of the story"

I had my camping gear ready to roll out and BEEZIL called and said "forget it, too cold, everyones at the hotel"
Thus I unload my gear.... i was ready w. the heater and my waterfowl printed sleeping bag! He called so I didnt have to drag all my junk there and back

It was -30 or more down off the river....... unless you got mad gear and skills...thats nothing to play around with. It has nothing to do w/ how big your sack or junk is!

your right chew. it was beezil who called and say no camping...lmao. who's tent got blown into the creek couple years ago? was that yours chris?

cheers,

jj

Rufies97XJ
January 23rd, 2004, 13:45
Ok.. who all is camping and who all is moteling it?? What nights?

TealV6
January 23rd, 2004, 14:07
Ok.. who all is camping and who all is moteling it?? What nights?

I'm a wuss.. count me in for motel :banghead:

Rev Den
January 23rd, 2004, 15:04
The Inn.


Rev

Beezil
January 23rd, 2004, 16:14
I will camp as long as I'm not the only person down there.

I'll camp in any weather.

tents are useless.

just sleep in yer truck.

seanR
January 23rd, 2004, 16:28
We are staying at the NEW Attica Inn. Fri and Sat night.

Scott Mac.
January 23rd, 2004, 17:23
I will camp as long as I'm not the only person down there.

I'll camp in any weather.

tents are useless.

just sleep in yer truck.

I'm thinking of camping by the busses where we can rip on Dan the man and his shiny yellow beadlocks.

LBEXJ
January 23rd, 2004, 19:57
Camping .....

Scott Mac.
January 23rd, 2004, 20:02
Camping .....

is for real men. Hotels are for sissy's and those who bring their wives.

Beezil
January 23rd, 2004, 21:32
is for real men. Hotels are for sissy's and those who bring their wives.

damn scott, listen to you!

sounds like steph let you take the balls out for a spin today.

TealV6
January 23rd, 2004, 22:12
damn scott, listen to you!

sounds like steph let you take the balls out for a spin today.

ROFL.... does this mean you are tripping down without the wife??? Didn't say that when we talked.

Fore Wheeler
January 24th, 2004, 08:53
I'm camping, I was going to camp down there last year but ended up hanging out with the p u s s y s at the Inn and camping in the parking lot.

Scott, bring Steph, camp anyhow, I'm bringing my wife and camping.

Trail Blazer
February 11th, 2004, 14:54
I'm there! Any body got the number to the BB in attica


Ya got room fer another Jeep on that there trailer? Or are ya drive'n that thing up there?

BTW...when is Winterfest? I've lost track of time since the funeral last week (Aunt died). Is it this weekend? Gawwd i hope not....still have to weld the steering box back on :twak:

Beezil
February 11th, 2004, 15:00
Ya got room fer another Jeep on that there trailer? Or are ya drive'n that thing up there?

BTW...when is Winterfest? I've lost track of time since the funeral last week (Aunt died). Is it this weekend? Gawwd i hope not....still have to weld the steering box back on :twak:

TB, what's the deal, does everyone down there have three-axle, two-vehicle trailers or what???

how come you won't wheel unless someone else hauls you and your junk to where you are going?

I miss you, you little booger, but I hafta wonder why you built a "trailer queen" without first having a trailer, and something to tow it with?

the wonders never cease.

try to get your ass to winterfest, one way or the other.


edit: hey, whats this shit about "welding" your steering box back on? call me crazy, but i'm pretty sure they BOLT on.

KY Chris
February 11th, 2004, 18:13
Walter B...You coming now? Is that offer on the 27 spline 8.25 axle shafts still good? PM me if you wanna set something up.
KY Chris

xjrobins
February 12th, 2004, 20:10
Been to the Badlands and all I have to say is ... Awesome! Few summers ago I went and managed to 'improperly use' my recovery gear when pulling a fellow TJ outta the mud on the pink trail (on the right soon as your enter the park). A tree managed to cause $6,200 damage after landing across my hood. Needless to say I have some 'unfinished business' with said TREE. NO ROLLCAGES REQ'D for XJ's. Believe only the 'rag top' type Jeeps must have some sort of occupant protection for the noggin'. I'm in!

TPI MJ
February 15th, 2004, 07:30
Anyone got an open seat? If I can scrape up some gas money and find someone to haul my arse around the badlands, I'll be there. Campin at the river (aka sleeping in the truck).

Beezil
February 15th, 2004, 07:43
TPI, I already have a rider, but I'm sure we can pile you in somehow, even if you got down to the quarry, you could hike around and spectate on the various short obstacles...

anyway, wanted to mention, it looks like after talking to a few people, that we probably won't do the river thing.....

Some of the campers are opting to camp at the badlands (7bucks includes a non-treetrunk bathroom, hot shower) trailers and busses can be left there the whole weekend, as can tents.....makes it easier to get wheeling each day, we won't hafta worry about "moving the fort" just drivin down the road in your rig......

4ward
February 15th, 2004, 09:13
A warm pooper ain't all bad. I can deal with the badland's camp so we don't have to deal with loading trailers and junk. I'm not getting there until sat. morning anyhow. Gonna go watch Gravdigger blow something up Fri. night :thumbup: It's good to have kids around so you don't have to look like a total redneck going to a monster truck rally by yourself :D

xjrobins
February 15th, 2004, 10:21
When we meeting and where? Upper lot behind the shop or lower lot?

Beezil
February 15th, 2004, 10:47
when ya getting there?

some of us will be at the badlands camp thurs night.

we are having a trail leaders ONLY run on friday (no dingleberries please)

of course EVERYONE is encouraged to show up as early as they'd like and have a great time playin' and exploring!

friday morning will probably be a leisurely start, trailleaders can either swing by the badlands camp, or in the upper parking lot.

we would like to get an EARLY start saturday morning, so please be there when the gates open!

standing in line at the office to acquire day passes can take anywhere from a couple minutes, to a half-hour......this is the offseason, so chances are that will move quick.

we would like to start a drivers meeting no later than 10:00 am. If most of the group looks like they're set and ready we will begin the drivers meeting ASAP. the drivers meeting will be located at the upper lot nearest the rti ramp, behind the office

there will be a general description, of the goings on and trail descriptions. trail leader will be announced so that all drivers know "who's who"....

judging by the trail descriptions, you will group up with the chosen trail leaders. Each trail leader may elect to have thier own "pow-wow" and decide where their line up will start. Vehicle inspections should be performed, to identify any potential "hazards"...Drivers can get with the trail leaders, scott mac or myself if they have any question regarding choosing trails. There will be many folks there who have done the badlands before, and can also help you determine a fun and challengin trail, so ask around! It will be helpful if each trail leader would do their line-up in a different location other than the main lot to reduce the confusion of the "scramble".

I am unsure when the park closes this time of year, we will have to confirm this, but regardless, if there is one thing that irritates the owners more, its "last minute exiting". we will want to be in the parking lot one half-hour BEFORE the gates close. Murphys law rules the badlands, if you are feeling hardcore or brave, consider getting your hardcore out of your system with enough time to address your "issues" if bad luck occurrs. Don't be stupid-hardcore 15 minutes before you need to be back to the main lot....

I can't tell you how many ties this happens!!!

personally speaking, I break within the first five minutes, so I have nothing to worry about!

Beezil
February 15th, 2004, 10:50
one last thing:

don't bring alcohol....

we all know you don't intend to drink any on the trail, but they won't even let you in with it!

don't try to be sneaky, cause they will perform vehicle searches, I shit you not.

If you want to bring beer and booze from home, make arrangements to store your stuff with someone who is lodging or camping before entering the park.

LBEXJ
February 15th, 2004, 10:52
May come up Friday PM after work and camp Friday and Saturday night ... may take a half day off if the situation there permits.

Going to try and borrow my brother's trailer (licensed for road travel), and bring up some wood and some straw ... some to put in the trailer to sleep on ... some to put down in the mud at camp (if necessary). It's forcasted to be in the mid 40's that weekend which will make for plenty of it for those who "just love mud" ...

Les

Beezil
February 15th, 2004, 10:53
orange trail is gonna be a mudfest!

4ward
February 15th, 2004, 11:05
personally speaking, I break within the first five minutes, so I have nothing to worry about, but I break my friends junk within the last 5 minutes- so there's usually still something to worry about


fixed it for ya!

bgcntry72
February 15th, 2004, 12:03
Tonya and I are leaving after we drop the kids off at school on Fri.
We should roll in no later than 1 p.m.
More to come.
Hasta.

Scott Mac.
February 15th, 2004, 17:05
I'm camping, I was going to camp down there last year but ended up hanging out with the p u s s y s at the Inn and camping in the parking lot.

Scott, bring Steph, camp anyhow, I'm bringing my wife and camping.

Steph is staying home, she's not fond of winter wheelin'.

I found out I have to work on Friday so I wont be down till Saturday morning.

bgcntry72
February 15th, 2004, 19:02
orange trail is gonna be a mudfest!
I was pondering a regear and front locker before Winterfest, but I think that the ability to steer in tight areas and higher wheel speed are more crucial than impressing people in the quarry, at least for this run.
Still undecided on a 4.10 geared 8.8 or moving to 4.56s in my locked 8.25...decisions...
Regardless, I won't be there until after lunch Friday, but will be running Orange, probably with the Rev, as he may be my gunner.
The Russian has a helper monkey, and he is at the wheel.
Holding off on fiberglass and sheetmetal repair until AFTER this weekend.
My mind has a mind of its own.
Excited about this weekend.
Hasta. :attom:

Rufies97XJ
February 16th, 2004, 06:48
See ya'll Saturday morning... not sure what trails i'll run...
looks like it may be warm.. for winter temps.. not sure if thats good or bad..lol.

Beezil
February 16th, 2004, 06:59
weather report today shows warming trend to continue until friday, and its supposed to drop again on saturday.....that's for chicago anyway, hopefully the returning cold is just for the south shore....

at any rate, expect mucky SOUP!

"traction" will be a concept that we laugh about and wish we could find.....

4ward
February 16th, 2004, 07:02
"traction" will be a concept that we laugh about and wish we could find.....

I see the excuses are already coming out for not making purgy in its entirety :wave:

Rufies97XJ
February 16th, 2004, 08:10
I see the excuses are already coming out for not making purgy in its entirety :wave:


And so it begins... AGAIN! :roflmao:

Beezil
February 16th, 2004, 08:20
I see the excuses are already coming out for not making purgy in its entirety :wave:


you are a dead man.

I don't think you'll be making purgatory either.....


if you know whadda mean.

better get a locking gascap, asscap.

4ward
February 16th, 2004, 08:24
Huffer, don't worry about it. I can give him all the crap I want cuz he'll never make it through. Oh, and I'm not spottin' him this time. May roll a few boulders down in from the top to keep him on his toes :eyes:

Beezil
February 16th, 2004, 08:32
Huffer, don't worry about it. I can give him all the crap I want cuz he'll never make it through. Oh, and I'm not spottin' him this time. May roll a few boulders down in from the top to keep him on his toes :eyes:

good.

I'll take scottmac, he's a MUCH better spotter than you......actually, yer not even a spotter.....you are a spotting poseur......

why don't you go grind something metallic jackload.

4ward
February 16th, 2004, 13:01
go paint some more gay scallops, skippy :smootch: I'm still trying to figure out why you got rid of your sticker, it fits you so well these days.

You know my policy on spotting. Besides, I know how to drive- do you???????????

Beezil
February 16th, 2004, 17:54
that's it fawker......

I'll show you I'm the reason for your success on purgatory.....

I'll spot you like you spot me.

I'll get you lined up on every roll line there is...

"Nope, climb that rock a little higher on the left....thaaaattttts it, just a little more......."

:rof:

4ward
February 16th, 2004, 17:55
that's ok, mine's more stable than yours there capt'n crunch :pirate1: