Trail Leaders

[Kudzu]

Ryan please make a purposed trail schdule for the event.

Beginner
Moderate
Extreme

Some of the Extremem guys like to ride with the moderate group on Thur. so They have a good day with no breakage brfore they hit the harder stuff.

[4ward]

I'll lead a trail for ya on Fri. if I'm there. How's that for wishy washy?

Sean

[Carpenter]

I'll be glad to lead a group through Slickrock or Schoolbus on Friday. I'll probably stick with the moderate group on Thursday but you WON'T catch me going down Peckerwood again though!

[Kudzu]

You extreme guys are such Weenies...LOL..remember we renamed it...PUCKERWOOD.

[jeepxjga]

alrighty, when do you need it by, and how many groups of each do you think we should take? i guess depending on how many people show up we can guage whether to take more than one group of each difficulty, i'll get a schedule worked up here in the next few days and post on here so you all can approve or make changes.

ps - oh yeah, people on the extreme ride....bring spares, i got a good schedule in mind for us heh heh :twisted:

[Georgia Mike]

Hey Ryan! There are a few of us that would like to do more than moderate,but not EXTREMELY extreme (does that make sense?). I saw Slickrock last time we were there and it looked tempting. Something like that thrown in with some moderate to hard stuff. Mark says he might try it,too. Is there a moderate to difficult ride you could set up for Saturday? 8)

P.S.-Sorry to hear about your misfortunes Saturday morning. I was really looking forward to seeing the leaf conversion. You got any pics up on the web? Links? We had a blast,even on the easy trail that it is,the difficulty rate went up a notch with all that Rich Mtn. gumbo!

[jeepxjga]

well, i have a good schedule planned for the moderate on thursday, i will see what i can do about a decently difficult one on saturday for ya'll. i'll post it up here in a few days and let ya'll know what you think. yeah, you'll see the leaf conversion a little bit with fullwidths over the trip :twisted:

[jeepxjga]

alright, well i have tackled the extreme group first, so here's what i was thinking, let me know what ya'll think...

THURS - Guardrail to Heli Pad and then down Schoolbus for some pucker fun
FRI - Slickrock to down Peckerwood then up Schoolbus
SAT - Lower 2 to Upper 2 (I figure that will take most of the day)

so let me know what ya'll think, if I should add anything or take anything off, I am workin on the moderate schedule right now and something good for the extreme guys to do on thursday if ya'll want to ride with the moderate guys.

[4ward]

Chark, Ron, Hunter, and I did 12 (I think) last year. That's a pretty good thursday warmup. I don't remember how we came back out, but we had a good time of it.

Sean

[Carpenter]

There's only two ways out of #12, down Schoolbus and down Gaurdrail. You'd know if you went down Gaurdrail.

[jeepxjga]

well i would definitely like to go down schoolbus rather than guardrail personally. so we'll do 12 and down schoolbus on thursday, that sound better? thats just for the extreme, i'm workin on the moderate tonight, should be posted by tomorrow at the latest.

[4ward]

Sorry, but I was thinking that 12 was moderate. Hunter was running half bald 33's and 1 locker and he did fine. Maybe my view of moderate is getting skewed these days, that's probably why I won't organize trails anymore (either that or I'm just lazy).

Sean

Sean you know your not a good judge of EXTREME....Not much is with a rig like yours...Now think Like your driving mine...4.5" lift 32" tires and one locker. LOL Hopefully we will have an even larger turn out and have to run multiply groups.

Heather :lol: :lol: :mrgreen:

[Fore Wheeler]

my goal this year is to up guard rail w/o breaking, and to go up school bus w/o breaking, hell, I'd be happy just wheelin w/o breaking. I'll have my CTM's by then so that'll take care of that weak point and the pearches have been fixed for good, soooo, what's the next weak point down the line????

[4ward]

better bring a spare t-case :)

Sean

[Hunter-Lynchburg,Va]

those were half bald 33's and two lockers if it makes a difference for trail planning. i can honestly say id rather go up peckerwood than down it. other than that the trail set ups sound pretty good. i know its a little far in advance and weather and group numbers will manipulate the final trail schedule. i plan to be there as of now, but its hard to say whats going to happen in the next 4 months.

Hunter

[jeepxjga]

ok, heres a tentative THURS and FRI schedule for the moderate group...
THUR - 5 to 6 and then we can split off and the harder group can up to slickrock and do it, then i figured the not so hard group could go up 7 and watch and then everyone head home?
FRI - 6 (TN side) to 7 to 4 to 5 to home, i figure that will take the better part of the day if there is a big group.

let me know hwo that sounds to ya'll, changes, suggestions, whatever, lets hear em

[Kudzu]

Well I will just wait and see how the trails are later to make a decision but usuallly we take a nice easy ride on Thru.. and then do more difficult on Fri.

Maybe switch the 2 days...

Sat. the mod group and the Extreme can do upper 2 and the others can come in the bottom to watch those who want to do Lower 2

[jeepxjga]

alrighty that sounds good to me, i'll make the changes. i'm having a little trouble workin on a good easy schedule, any suggestions as to what trails could be counted as "easy"? i know 8, but what about like 6 or 5? would those be considered "easy"?

[Carpenter]

Is 8 really considered easy? Seems like there are a few spots at the either end that would give near stockers fits. In #4 on the NC side all the way to #6 and down #6 is pretty easy. I've seen a stock Z-71 do it so how hard can that be? That's the biggest problem you'll run into is keeping the stockers and guys with no rocker protection occupied. Trail #5 is pretty easy now but I don't know if stockers could make it even with all the gravel dumped back there over the last year. If you think it's doable for the easy crowd then up #5 and out #4 to the NC side is another possibility. Just remember they need guides too, being a trail leader means taking care of everyone, not just taking the glory of leading the hard-core guys. I wouldn't mind leading the easy guys one day if another guide is needed.

[Kudzu]

not sure what 5 looks like now but in Oct is was l;ike a FS road..no problem..and I have been told that several do not want to even go near 7...and the last time I talked with someone who went up it you would need a winch and that was from some guys that run extreme group...

[Carpenter]

Like I said before, I'm not going down Puckerwood again this year. I still have some gray hairs from doing it last year! Last time I was in Tellico was right after x-mas and the first long hill on #5 was washed out enough to give stockers trouble. There was also a huge, dug out mud hole at the bottom of Mistletoe that gave me some new dents. There was some trail work in Tellico last weekend though so who knows what things are like now? I guess we really need to do a pre-run closer to July and decide something then.

[jeepxjga]

alright well hey all, i'm leaving for tellico tomorrow for 4 days of ridin, so i'll be able to make a better assessment of the trails after i get back then i will get a better schedule together.

[woody]

Anyone who ventures off trail 1 (the FS road) without rockerpanel armor is A: asking for dents or B: Doesn't care. Same goes for skid plates for T case and fuel tank.

As for the 'stocker'/easy group...is the little step up out of Tellico River @ Fains Ford on #4 doable for stockers/unlockers? Seemed pretty washed out last time I was there (Oct) That was really the only 'snag' for the 1>4>down 6 route IIRC. But I haven't ran that direction since 2001, so :dunno: Agree that trail 5 was tamed down pretty well, so up 5 to 4 (sidetrips up 3 and 11?) could be a good easy group trip.

[4ward]

Just bringing a little activity back to this thread. I was wondering how the spring has treated the trails and what is being done about a final trail schedule. Looks like I'm definately coming now and I'd be willing to lead something on Fri.

Sean

[Kudzu]

Okay...I have just about got the Reg form ready and hopfully Remi can get evrything up next week.

Yes we will need trail leaders fro the beginners and Low moderate. We have 3 days so some of the more experienced can swap up the days witht he begineers and low mod then run the heavy stuff. Althoug on Sat I was hoping to have a large group hit L2 and those who want can either come down U2 or come around on the FS to watch. Bring a grill and sojme burger and dogs and make a day of it if enough people want to do it. We could also just meet over there at luch and fire up the grill and have fun...Have to keep in mind that we have the catered meal at 7pm that night.

[Matt99XJ]

Kudzu...Are you still looking for trail leaders? If so I would lead one of the easier trails for beginners/stockers. Or if you need someone for the harder rides I can do that too. Either one is fine with me. This will be my first NAXJA event, I am just lookin to hang out with fellow XJer's. I might be up for Lower 2 if the conditions are right. It was really nasty a couple of months ago. If you want to e-mail me it is OlllllllO@cox.net

[Carpenter]

Like I said before I don't mind leading the stockers one day. If it's nice and dry I'm planning on running lower #2 on Saturday though. I can't wait.

[4ward]

What's this "if the conditions are right", and "if it's dry" crap. Do you 2 need me to carry you across fain's so you don't get your skirts wet???????:D I'm gettin' pumped for this folks. I may even be revealing some new suspension work at this event. Definately going to have some "Oh _hit" handles welded in for this run.

Sean

[Matt99XJ]

I said " If the conditions are right " because if it has been raining for a week straight there is no point in me even trying it. I have seen guys with 38-40" tires not make it up when the conditions are nasty. If it has been raining alot you may have to carry me across Fains Ford.;) I will try to wear a short skirt that weekend.:D

[Carpenter]

I don't want to get muddy that's all.

[woody]

I hereby issue a Presidential Decree that It Shalt Not Rain Upon Thine Slitthery Trails Between Now and Cherokee Crawl.

There...it's a done deal now. Y'all can bring your Birkenstocks & beachwear, since it'll be dry as Mojave up there. Don't blame me if it's dusty... Oh yeah BTW...the rattlesnakes get a LOT more active up there when it's hot & dry...watch where you pass out :cheers:

;)

[2offroad]

i will try to be there to, i am "stock & unlocked" only 1' lift and 30X9.50 M/T but will try about any trail, i have never been to tellico but can go on most of the trails in uwarrie. am i going to be ok or upsidedown and burning?

[Carpenter]

Originally posted by 2offroad
i will try to be there to, i am "stock & unlocked" only 1' lift and 30X9.50 M/T but will try about any trail, i have never been to tellico but can go on most of the trails in uwarrie. am i going to be ok or upsidedown and burning?

Rockrails, rockrails, rockrails. If you don't have them, get them before you come to Tellico. If you try and run without them you'll quickly learn 1. you're going to get damage or 2. you won't have much to do since you can't run any of the trials. You can run many of the trials in Tellico with a Jeep on 30's but you'll need rock rails or opening your doors at the end of the day might be a challenge.

[2offroad]

thanks that is what i had heard. i will try to have rock rails or more lift before then.

[Carpenter]

I would consider rock rails far more critical than more lift.

[woody]

I agree completely...rockrails and good skid plates (tcase/fuel tank for sure, engine/trans and diff skids next) but oops there goes that 1" lift. ;)

I have seen Tellico and Uwharrie mangle lots of stuff and sheetmetal...especially on lower lift jeeps, that the above armor would have deflected. One particularly slithery pebble in Uwharrie on an easy strech cost me a tranny/clutch and stuff.

Can I complain about Rusty's E/T skid not working if it was uninstalled sitting at home?

Weld that 29 spline diff :viking:

[Ghost]

Ok I am going to try and come up there this year. I will probalby be running 33" tires. Locked rear and open front. I have a factory Gas tank skid and rock rails. That took a good hit at Uwharrie without a dent! Got the tow hooks up front and somewhat of a mount out back. Are there any other items I should consider takeing care of? And what do you guys consider moderate? Extreme?

[woody]

Tellico Moderate is pissing your britches before you drive up the obstacle or while backing away from it.

Extreme is pissing your britches while fixin your tore-up junk to save daylight.

:dunno: you asked...

[Matt99XJ]

This should give you a good idea of the area http://www.tellico4x4.com/murphy/tellicopics/index.htm (Tellico Pics)

[Ghost]

Damn! I hope that is not typical! Some of those rocks are huge! I'm hoping to come this year and if I do I will be on 33's, locked rear, rock rails (maybe I'll paint them after Tellico!), & Factory gas tank skid. I was not planning on doing any other mods do you guys think I need more protection?

[Kudzu]

Nah you'll be fine...I run just about evrything at Tellico Execpt guardrail ans lower 2...We are ging to give slick rock and lower 2 a shot this year...look at my sig to see how i am built. as long as you have rails you can run all the other trails..Although i think we will be by passing Peckerwood this year..LOL

Hey WES how are my rails coming I only have 2 weekends before I leave...

[Carpenter]

Originally posted by Kudzu


Hey WES how are my rails coming I only have 2 weekends before I leave...

You'll have them before then.

[JLane99XJ]

Originally posted by 2offroad
i will try to be there to, i am "stock & unlocked" only 1' lift and 30X9.50 M/T but will try about any trail, i have never been to tellico but can go on most of the trails in uwarrie. am i going to be ok or upsidedown and burning?

ditto<<< ROCK RAILS saved me some major hits.

& i would pull my bumpers & trim if you want it to look the same ever again, or so i was told & thats what it did, last for the ride i went on last weekend @ Tellico, you can straightnen the mounts out so the bumpers can be reattached & when youi get home they'll thank you for not takin em w/ ya...:)

i might even go as far as to pull my flares next time(CC), my front drivers side one kept popin off when the tire stuffed, so some MossyOak Duct Tape was deployed & held it in position the rest of the ride..:rolleyes:

[35xj]

I will be doing lower 2 on sat as well. Probably do slickrock sunday. can't wait! dave

[Fore Wheeler]

Originally posted by Ghost
Damn! I hope that is not typical! Some of those rocks are huge! I'm hoping to come this year and if I do I will be on 33's, locked rear, rock rails (maybe I'll paint them after Tellico!), & Factory gas tank skid. I was not planning on doing any other mods do you guys think I need more protection?

Hey Ghost, my first trip out there was on 31's and open front, I was glad to have my winch but other than that I did okay, I ran with the extreme group while there, but I don't care what my jeep looks like either.

you'll be okay

[jeepxjga]

Originally posted by Kudzu
Nah you'll be fine...I run just about evrything at Tellico Execpt guardrail ans lower 2...We are ging to give slick rock and lower 2 a shot this year...look at my sig to see how i am built. as long as you have rails you can run all the other trails..Although i think we will be by passing Peckerwood this year..LOL

Hey WES how are my rails coming I only have 2 weekends before I leave...

i think if you look hard enough you can still scrape some diff cover off of that rock after the bridge haha