View Full Version : Holy Flying Race Cars Batman!
Glenn B
September 28th, 2003, 14:40
Anybody else watching the Race? Damn good to see the driver walk away... that car flew quite a distance. The Wright Brothers would have been proud!
A very good race... on the edge of my seat. Red Flagged right now.... Hope they get them boys going again.
Glenn
Fore Wheeler
September 28th, 2003, 15:25
agree, to see that thing roll 5 times at 190 mph and still be alive is truely great cage work.
great crash.
Scott Mac.
September 28th, 2003, 15:27
Yea I saw it. It was good to see Elliot moving as soon a the car came to a stop.
Waltrip made some nice moves on that last lap.:clap:
woody
September 28th, 2003, 15:30
Yup that was pretty intense...
Also glad to see that the other safety rules seemed to work.
"the big one" never did happen, though it almost happened after the race was over...
Glenn B
September 28th, 2003, 15:32
Yeah.... great safety stuff.
Agreed, Waltrip blocking the whole field was cool. That crew needed a win for sure.
Glenn
CRASH
September 28th, 2003, 20:52
Are we talking NASCAR or World Wrestling Entertainment?
Oh, nevermind, same difference.
CRASH.......waiting for the replay of the REAL race at Indy to begin.
xjblue
September 28th, 2003, 23:44
I'll admit I watched the last half of that race (only because the Grand Prix Americana had finished) Did you see that crewman take a 10 foot flight of his own in that pit crash after the earlier spin out, ouch!. I'm not a big fan of "redneck racing". I'll flip channels to find road racing or almost any other kind of non oval left turn only racing or even Indy before I settle for restrictor plated NASCAR rush hour fender bending. For a one car crash that was a good one though.
xj( I need better Formula 1 coverage on network TV )blue
2offroad
September 29th, 2003, 03:48
the REAL race staets in January. Paris to Dakar.
CRASH
September 29th, 2003, 06:46
Speed Vision has excellent F-1 coverage. Practice, qualifying, race.
Very good technical know-how in the booth. They are always explaining all the new technical gadgets.
The BAR Honda was turning 19,150 RPM down the main straight this weekend. :eek:
CRASH
yellowxj
September 29th, 2003, 06:59
I was on the back stretch at daytona a couple years ago when the homedepot car came floating by about as high as us in the stands, IIRC, we were in the 6th row up. Didnt know D.E. had died until we were almost home. I'd rather watch "stock" cars race.
CRASH
September 29th, 2003, 08:53
I'd rather watch "stock" cars race.
I just wish someone would explain what exactly is "stock" about a Stock Car? The hood?
If they were racing stock cars, they would all be front wheel drive, V-6 powered, grocery getters.
CRASH
Jes
September 29th, 2003, 12:18
I enjoyed the free preview of Speedchannel this weekend. The British Rally Championship was on Motorsports Mundial with highlights of the Isle of Man rally.
Insanely tight roads, high speeds, jumps, and several spectacular roll overs. Rally gets it!
Jes
CRASH
September 29th, 2003, 14:58
We need to organize the First Annual NAXJA Means Dry Lake Rally and Show and Shine.
Three laps around the lake bed, once through Gatekeeper and back to camp. Rubbing is encouraged. Winner gets bragging rights for the next year.
CRASH
yellowxj
September 29th, 2003, 17:32
I thought thats what jeepspeed.com was all about. I'd love to race an xj. Hopefully I'll be moving west in 7-10 years.
And when I say "stock" thats what I mean. I love to see those v-6 FWD cars howling through the corners. Manufacturers putting out their best stuff. But be able to...hows it go...race it on sunday buy one on monday....I guess thats what the local track is for but no one runs new cars. I want to see what those babies will do. I've seen 4 cyl "stock" cars at the local track but the tech there isnt high tech enough to catch the cheaters.
Bent
September 29th, 2003, 20:19
Originally posted by CRASH
CRASH.......waiting for the replay of the REAL race at Indy to begin.
Straight.....Left.....Straight.....Left......Strai ght.....Left......Straight....Left.....Straight... ...Left....Straight.......Left......Left...So Hard....Straight....Left........Straight.......Lef t.....Left......Left....So Dizzy....Straight...Lestr....Laigh...:eek:
:angel:
CW
September 29th, 2003, 20:56
Yeah I cought the last half of the NASCAR race after the F-1 race, I wish we had more than one in the U.S. I love the speed channel when they focus on anything but NASCAR and powerboat racing. I think a jeep rally would be sweet, something about an xj drifting corners seems scary though. It would have to be stock or lower than stock with some stiffening mods to the suspension and chassie. I would do jeepspeed but my jeep doesn't comply with there displacement rule :cool:
Grant
September 30th, 2003, 11:20
The Formula One race at Indy was the best since it returned to the states in 2000. We had the best seats yet, Penthouse in B, right above Indy turn 1, F1 turn 13.
The rain just proves that even God is a Schumaker fan. 7th on the grid to race leader in 28 laps. So his 6th World Drivers Championship is almost a certain lock. The first 30 laps were some of the most exciting I have ever seen. (and I think this was the 14th or 15th F1 race I have attended) To see the cars coming onto the straight through turn 13 with huge rooster tails was amazing.
Real race cars race no matter what the weather.
Driving move of the race - Kimi Raikkonnen catching the rear of the car TWICE through 13 while overtaking GC Fisis in the Jordan. The only other driver with hands that quick that I have seen at Indy was JP Montoya in 99 at the 500.
Too bad Monty did not perform a bit better, it would have made the next race in Japan very exciting. We had decided if Montoya was within 5 points of Schumi after the race - we were going to forget NAXJA and go to Japan for the last race.
There were so many Columbian's / Montoya fans there - I think Indy may have been the third largest city in Columbia.
Saw the end of the NASCAR race - it is going to take a crew member getting killed before they wise up, or a car going into the stands before they get the message. And circling in packs at 190mph with your foot flat, and driving with your mirrors is NOT racing, it's WWE entertainment for the rednecks.
2offroad
September 30th, 2003, 11:28
Originally posted by Grant
Real race cars race no matter what the weather.
or terrain or landmines or duststorms.
Paris to Dakar Rally the real race, 6500+ miles, not enough on speed channel.
CRASH
September 30th, 2003, 12:47
We had decided if Montoya was within 5 points of Schumi after the race - we were going to forget and go to Japan for the last race.
Grant,
Your globe-trotting lifestyle makes me jealous.
CRASH
xjblue
September 30th, 2003, 17:19
Thanks for the eyewitness report Grant!
I've always wanted to watch an F1 race when it was raining! A world class racing event makes it's only stop here in the states and nobody gets to see it on regular TV! I only caught the last 14 laps of the Champ car race in Miami. Champ cars are close enough to Formula 1 when they are on a road coarse to satisfy my needs for open wheel road race spectating but.... I'm bummed I missed F1 at Indy. How much would it cost to just have Speedvision and Discovery Wings? On the other hand I would never get anything done!
I can watch Rally racing all day long too! Can't get enough. My Bro in law came over with the latest rally game for Play Station 2, I sat and played it for 3 hours straight, very realistic for a change!
speaking of racing in any weather,
Ducati's website had some sweet photos of a Superbike race during the rain. That is some crazy racing when it is dry! Very enjoyable to watch when they are sliding both tires around a turn and somehow not crashing!
xjblue
woody
September 30th, 2003, 20:37
"I love the speed channel when they focus on anything but NASCAR and powerboat racing"
What's wrong with APBA... too foreign for y'all flatlanders?
To rich? A fool with money could buy into a 'rental' Mannerfelt Bat Boat to race spec class for a shitload cheaper than lots of other motorsport racing...if getting wet was their Jones.
F1 seems to me just too much like huge $ tossed out for ? but that maybe the point? Excess for the point of proving excess? Nice cars & great drivers no doubt but to what end? Sponsor dollars and TV coverage to make it all happen...
Take the money away and on any given weekend y'all still find folks racing on dirt, asphalt, water, air LOL on all sorts of equipment...picking a favorite is difficult.
I want a hypo snowmobile that can run at the Rock against the ricers and swop rollers for skis, plus a Fountain fishboat with 3- 250 4 strokes
But I'm not a rich boy, and I am happy to entertain within my limits
Grant
October 1st, 2003, 14:50
Woody, I'll agree that the $$$ costs have gone crazy. But that applies to all motorsports. Ten years ago you could buy a competitive NASCAR operation and run it a year for around $10 million. Now a single car team that runs back of the pack spends that in a season.
Powerboat racing is very $$$$. Especially now that the drug money that used to fuel APBA is no longer around, kinda like IMSA was in the 80's.
just some of the technology that has trickled down from F1 in the last 20 years.
Turbo's and the software to run them. BMW's turbo monsters from the early 80's were based on a 1.8 liter road car block.
Active suspension, now banned in F1
Traction Control, soon to be banned in F1
Use of composite materials
Use of exotic materials
Wind tunnels used for car design
Finite Element Analysis
Computer simulation and testing
Rapid prototype and 3D modelling
Smart materials
Data collection and transfer
I could not walk out to my 2003 Cooper S and show you a single part that came from F1, but I could show you hundreds of parts that would not be there if it were not for the technology that comes from F1. Kinda like the space program - would we have velcro, teflon, laptops, powered hand tools, or the like if we had not gone to the moon?
Hey I will watch two rednecks racing lawnmowers - I don't care, I bleed gear oil.
My favourite racing is
F1, world Rally, Rally Raid's (Paris-dakar), 250 and 500 bikes, Superbikes, Isle of Man TT, SCORE trucks, DTM (German touring car)
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