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Jeff-97XJ
September 12th, 2017, 19:19
I have been using Optima Red Top batteries since around 2000. I put one in then and it lasted 7 years. I put one in 2007 and it lasted 7 years. I put one in 2014 and after just 3 years and a few months, it needs replacing.

I Need Advice.

I used to love these batteries but apparently the quality has gone way down. I need to find a good battery to fit in my 97 XJ and any advice would be appreciated. I would like to stick with the gel type and price is no issue as I want a quality battery not a cheap one.

Appreciate any suggestions.

Thanks,
JP

EMSJEEP
September 12th, 2017, 19:25
Odyssey

Jeff-97XJ
September 12th, 2017, 19:35
Which model did you get?
Did you have to make any modifications for it to fit and be secured?

Thanks,
JP



Odyssey

EMSJEEP
September 12th, 2017, 19:55
Which model did you get?
Did you have to make any modifications for it to fit and be secured?

Thanks,
JP

PC1500STM

It should drop right in. I just got it last week, so can't tell you much, but it's the other big brand out there. They have been around a while.

Heavyopp
September 12th, 2017, 20:02
Deka intimidator -- AGM

I using them in 2 different vehicles -- no issues -- one of them is 6 years old and sees minimal use -- always turns the starter

I also have a few Sears diehard AGM -- they where rebadged Oddessy batteries for under $200 -- they also run great but Sears stopped offering them a couple years ago

ParadiseXJ
September 12th, 2017, 21:29
I have a Wal-Mart battery I bought in 2008 for $95. I left the interior lights on a month or so ago. It faltered a little but started right up on the second try. I also have 4 aux lights, trailer lights, and everything works.

If I leave it sitting for more than a week, I put it on the 2A solar trickle charger. I've also taken it off to use on my trolling motor a couple times every summer. Just lucky I guess, but $200 is pretty pricey

Heavyopp
September 12th, 2017, 23:09
Guess I forgot to mention those $200 batteries where group 65 -- Good batteries cost$$$

clydefrog
September 12th, 2017, 23:22
Deka. Hands down. I have sold maybe 100 of them in the past 3 years and have never needed to warranty one. There that good.

I run a very high end European repair shop. This is the ONLY battery I would recommend. I did tons of research after I started looking for another supplier when Interstate got bought by Jonson Controls. Varta is another good brand but you cant get them here in the states.

Most all the other brands are made by Johnson Controls (including Interstate) which are garbage.

I have a Wal-Mart battery I bought in 2008 for $95. I left the interior lights on a month or so ago. It faltered a little but started right up on the second try. I also have 4 aux lights, trailer lights, and everything works.

This is when Interstate sold to Walmart and Interstate was a good battery, they stopped in 2009. No surprise, I have seen the older interstates from this era go 10 years.

denverd1
September 13th, 2017, 08:40
Optimas have been made in Mexico for several years. quality is garbage.

clyde good info on Deka. thx

Heavyopp
September 13th, 2017, 09:19
Supposedly the Sams Club AGM is a rebadged Deka Intimidator -- Made by East Penn

Not sure about the rest of the Sams club line but it may be worth looking into

blakews2217
September 13th, 2017, 09:43
I've had good luck with the car quest house brand. Killed multiple times to dead. We're talking like 2-3 volts. After a jump and some 2 footing my 10 min drive home it was weak for a few days, but returned to good power. Had it for 6 years in other jeeps seeing the hot summers and the cold winters. Never let me down when it wasn't my fault. Went out at -12 to start her up. Had 10-40 oil in it and a stroker motor. I bit slow but did it.


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Bent
September 15th, 2017, 12:29
Odyssey

Diehard platinum is the same battery with a better warranty. A little bit cheaper too if I recall. Either way that's the route I went. Another plus for the DH, at least in my case is the availability of local Sears stores.

asymptonic
September 15th, 2017, 12:35
Diehard platinum is the same battery with a better warranty. A little bit cheaper too if I recall. Either way that's the route I went. Another plus for the DH, at least in my case is the availability of local Sears stores.

Unfortunately, I think Sears discontinued the Platinum.

Bent
September 15th, 2017, 13:31
Unfortunately, I think Sears discontinued the Platinum.
That'll leave me in a spot if I have a warranty claim.

clydefrog
September 15th, 2017, 23:35
That'll leave me in a spot if I have a warranty claim.
Don't forget. Warranty claims are no good when your out in the middle of nowhere with a cheap battery.

Bent
September 16th, 2017, 07:15
Don't forget. Warranty claims are no good when your out in the middle of nowhere with a cheap battery.

That was THE primary concern when I chose the DH Platinum / Odyssey. I do my best at not confusing price with value.

J1MB0B
September 16th, 2017, 11:19
I have an interstate in my xj. It has followed me through several different vehicles and is still going strong after close to 9 years now.

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Johnnie Walker
September 16th, 2017, 13:35
I currently run a CQ and a O'reilly premium battery in my heeps. One in each of course, I chose to run the dual post 34/78.
Zero issues.
If you want an agm battery, you should be able to pick one up at most any local parts store.
I say this, because the supplier of most of their AGM batteries is East Penn.

Optima quality has gone way down, especially for the price.

Another option (if you do not need/want agm)as 99% of their auto batteries are the same price. MSRp 120$, Motorcraft 34, 34/78, or whatever size you need.

clydefrog
September 16th, 2017, 22:48
I have an interstate in my xj. It has followed me through several different vehicles and is still going strong after close to 9 years now.

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That is all we used to sell, and the only batt I would trust. Until they got sold to Johnson Controls. They are junk now.

9 years ago? That's still a good one. I wouldn't use another Interstate when the time comes to replace it.

lawagoneer
September 17th, 2017, 18:35
Put an Interstate battery in my Harley 2 years ago. Never abused, my bike ish a highway tourer and I live in the country. Replaced it yesterday, wouldn't take a full charge, load test failed miserably. Factory battery lasted 4 years and still worked but was starting to drag on cold mornings when I replaced it.

Anak
September 17th, 2017, 20:49
I have a 2014 Interstate sitting in the garage right now that my charger says won't take a full charge. It is out of The Bride's daily driver Impala SS. I had to go rescue her at work last Thursday when her car wouldn't start.

I think it is a November 2014 battery. Figure 3 years on what is supposed to be a 5 year battery. I am not pleased.

For the moment she is driving with the 2012 Interstate out of the Suburban. That battery would have a legitimate excuse if it kicked the bucket. From what I am seeing in this thread and elsewhere I think I am going to be switching to Deka AGM batteries.

midnite9150
September 18th, 2017, 14:38
Most all the other brands are made by Johnson Controls (including Interstate) which are garbage.

This is when Interstate sold to Walmart and Interstate was a good battery, they stopped in 2009. No surprise, I have seen the older interstates from this era go 10 years.

I just bought a costco interstate and while i didnt start the jeep for a month it died and wouldnt take a charge. Luckily costco has an excellent warranty and I got a new one no questions asked, I was surprised it died so bad it couldnt be charged

RCP Phx
September 18th, 2017, 15:04
I'll just add that I currently have 2 Red top's and 2 Blue top's and they have been averaging about 7yrs per!

paroxysym
September 21st, 2017, 05:37
Autocraft AGM

ehall
September 21st, 2017, 14:49
The AutoCraft Platinum AGM are Deka (can tell by the shape)

Plus they are warranty through Advance Auto anywhere in the country, which is important

need-a-bow
October 28th, 2017, 22:46
I was just debating this, since a couple of days ago my Jeep was dead in a Walmart parking lot. I was about to pull the trigger on a Die Hard AGM(still available in group 34 sizes) but then remembered how bad Sears is doing and amount of Sears where we go wheeling vs Advance.

One thing that surprised me is that the Autocraft Platinum AGM has less CCA(740) than most group 34 AGMs and less than the same size Autocraft Gold(800 CCA) lead acid battery.

Any reason why the Platinum would be a bad choice for a DD? My 98 XJ is mostly stock plus a winch and fog lights. Wasn't sure if I was just being a bit paranoid of the numbers there.

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NorwayCherokee
October 29th, 2017, 10:51
Deka. Hands down. I have sold maybe 100 of them in the past 3 years and have never needed to warranty one. There that good.

I run a very high end European repair shop. This is the ONLY battery I would recommend. I did tons of research after I started looking for another supplier when Interstate got bought by Jonson Controls. Varta is another good brand but you cant get them here in the states.

Most all the other brands are made by Johnson Controls (including Interstate) which are garbage.


This is when Interstate sold to Walmart and Interstate was a good battery, they stopped in 2009. No surprise, I have seen the older interstates from this era go 10 years.
I want to put a new battery into my 95 xj 2.5 TurboD, which Varta do you recommend?

Johnnie Walker
October 29th, 2017, 12:16
They are made by East Penn, same as Deka and most other AGM batteries.The AutoCraft Platinum AGM are Deka (can tell by the shape)

Plus they are warranty through Advance Auto anywhere in the country, which is importantConsider looking into. A 34/78 (dual post).
For some reason sme places sell them slight cheap than 34's
As far as CCA, I believe that oe heep batts are only in the 500-600 range. I was just debating this, since a couple of days ago my Jeep was dead in a Walmart parking lot. I was about to pull the trigger on a Die Hard AGM(still available in group 34 sizes) but then remembered how bad Sears is doing and amount of Sears where we go wheeling vs Advance.

One thing that surprised me is that the Autocraft Platinum AGM has less CCA(740) than most group 34 AGMs and less than the same size Autocraft Gold(800 CCA) lead acid battery.

Any reason why the Platinum would be a bad choice for a DD? My 98 XJ is mostly stock plus a winch and fog lights. Wasn't sure if I was just being a bit paranoid of the numbers there.

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in_motion
November 7th, 2017, 18:26
I've had good luck with the car quest house brand. Killed multiple times to dead. We're talking like 2-3 volts. After a jump and some 2 footing my 10 min drive home it was weak for a few days, but returned to good power. Had it for 6 years in other jeeps seeing the hot summers and the cold winters. Never let me down when it wasn't my fault. Went out at -12 to start her up. Had 10-40 oil in it and a stroker motor. I bit slow but did it.


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I'll second this recommendation. I have one in my CR-V that's going on 6 years. Left the dome lights on two nights in a row and it still cranked right up. The Jeep needs a new battery and this is the one I'm getting.

Johnnie Walker
November 8th, 2017, 00:21
FYI, since AAP bought out CQ, their "standard" batteries have changed suppliers. All of them used to be made by East Penn, not all are meow.
So, consider spending the extra $ on their AGM batt.

I'll second this recommendation. I have one in my CR-V that's going on 6 years. Left the dome lights on two nights in a row and it still cranked right up. The Jeep needs a new battery and this is the one I'm getting.

JeepNoob
November 12th, 2017, 13:18
Ran a Napa Premium Gold battery in my '96 for 2 1/2 years with no issues. 580 CCA's, 715 CA's. Worked great for jump-starting dead vehicles, no slow cranking on cold mornings, even when I visited family in Nebraska last year for Christmas. 4-gauge battery cables probably helped too though.