Meet & Greet & local run suggestions

[Kejtar]

OK, for those interested in SoCal Chapter it'd be probably nice to meet each other. I would like to have all of us (some of us?) meet and maybe do a short run :) :) .

Looking for a somewhat central spot to most, I think Big Bear area is not a bad idea, or Gorman. It all depends on who is planning to come.

For a date, I'd suggest end of March so that we all get some time to organize things and plan.

Also Richard is suggesting that the April JV run be held already under the SoCal Chapter hat. I second that idea as if we get our stuff together and get things going quickly enough, that would provide the run insurance coverage :) :)

Kejtar

One thing about JV. Rumor has it even the "easy" stuff on that run is too much for my "Little XJ that could." Not sure if I'll be in attendance.

[KINGSIZE]

Gorman would be better. Its got a little of everything, Mellow trails to Miller/Lockwood. JV has nothing for the under 4" and 33s guys. Ok sorry if you like playing in sand washs and dirt hills thats fine. Id say Gorman.

Robert K
aka KINGSIZE

[Goatman]

I don't remember recommending the April JV run be used to meet about the chapter, but that could be my older memory, and the insurance coverage wouldn't apply, anyway. It's not going to be easy to find a time and place that is good for everyone. I'd like to be there, and I have three possible times. Sunday, Mar 2, but that's TDS and I don't know how many people will go. The weekend in April, 12-13, that some of us will be in Johnson Valley, and the Sunday after the Santigao run, April 27. If I can't be there, I understand, but we need to take it slow so we can find a time when most who are interested can attend.

As far as location, remember that we're talking from Bakersfield and Ridgecrest all the way to San Diego and Santa Barbara. I don't know if Gorman is a very good place for those from San Diego, but we'll have to let them say. it may not be that much different than many of us driving to Big Bear. The Johnson Valley weekend is a possibility, only because we'll already be there, and it's fun even if you don't run trails yourself. If we can get someone who knows the area to lead a run on Sat, there are plenty of places for the less built rigs to explore. The other possibility is Big Bear on March 2, but we'll need to find out how many are planning to go to TDS. We also don't need to do it as a run. We can meet at a pizza place or something just for an afternoon or evening.

I don't know what town is a good choice for a central location, we need to consider San Diego, Ridgecrest, and Santa Barbara. Looking at a map it looks like Pamona/Ontario is the most centrally located if we didn't do run. We need to hear from more people about using Big Bear, as far as drive time, I don't know how that works out, it may not be any different than Gorman. We need to get a little more input, and then put out a couple of choices to see what most will prefer.

If it was up to me, at this point I'd recommend Sunday April 27, after Santigao. It would give us plenty of time to plan, and discuss things, and we could finalize some things at the meeting. Again, we need to remember that a meeting would be nice, but isn't necessary to get a chapter started.

Richard G

[David Taylor]

Richard, Big Bear is closer from San Diego and we don't have to fight any LA traffic.March 2nd would work for me but I think you are right about leaving some more time.April 27 would give us lots of time to get a little more organized. I think we should meet at a run since people might be coming from a long way off. Some people might not want to go that far for pizza.
Dave Taylor

I also think that Big Bear is pretty close to centrally located for everyone too.. its a two hour drive for me & I'm in So. Los Angeles. I think April 27th would be a good date won't be to cold nor hot (hopefully).It would also give me time to be become a member, and everyone else time to get it all planned out. As Dave said it would probably be best to offer trails and pizza!

Scott Suyeto
Gardena, 90247

[Kejtar]

The first Sunday of April? April 6th as a potential alternative to the APril 27th (I don't think I stepped on any other schedules :) ).

The reason I suggested Big Bear is that you can get to it without having to drive through LA area if you are coming form South (SD people) or North (all them weirdo's :) ). Plus the area has some nice variety of trails which will allow for everyone to drive and enjoy themselves :)

Kejtar

[DesertXJ]

I'm game for the April 26/27th weekend. Big Bear works as it is ~3 hr drive to the top of the mountain from Ridgecrest. :)

[Goatman]

I'll be at Santiago's Shred-Fest the weekend of April 26-27. If we meet in Big Bear, I'll either drive there Sat night or early Sun morning. I wonder if anyone else is planning to go to the Santiago event.

I hate to impose my limited schedule on the rest of you, but if a date that I'm available works for everyone else, I appreciate it. I work every other weekend, and I have things planned for every weekend that I have off until July.

Richard G

April 26/27 is open for me (so far, part of that will be BSA and GSA schedules that aren't out yet).

Would this be two days up in BB or one? If it's one, you might want to meet at the end of the day, but at the bottom of the mountain; San Bernardino or Victorville. That would allow people who aren't coming up for ALL day to make it without the additional hour of mountain driving each way...

bburge

[Kejtar]

It hasn't been decided 1 or 2 days yet (I support the 1 day choice though). In case of a 1 day, I suggest Sunday :)

Kejtar

[DesertXJ]

If we make it a Sunday, I won't be able to make it home to wash the Jeep before work Monday :lol: :P :lol: :P

[Kejtar]

You get to show it off at work :)

Kejtar

[David Taylor]

I think we should have it up at Big Bear. If we had it at one of the group camps up there we could make it a weekend trip for those that want. If someone
can only make it for the day on Sunday that would work out. We could have the meeting on Sunday morning then do a run. There is a group camp
at crab flats which would be closer than going all the way up to Big Bear lake.
Crab flats is along the deep creek trail, out side of arrowbea,half way between arrowhead and big bear lake.
DaveT

[KINGSIZE]

Im open for that weekend. Camping sounds good to me.

Robert K

[GSequoia]

Big Bear is good for me. Camping is good for me.

Now as far as April 26/27, not sure about the 26th, that being my birthday I'm not sure if I'll be up to anything, but since it's my birthday weekend [b:85a5ff31f9]I[/b:85a5ff31f9] get to decide what's on the table Sunday!

Sequoia

I won't make the BB meeting on the 27th. I'll be at Shredfest on the 26th but need to be home Sunday.

I have a couple of questions:

1. If an event is a NAXJA event - i.e. local run. What liabilitiy does NAXJA incur?

If we have a local run do we need insurance?

2. Do we need a webpage?

3. If a local chapter is formed, I would suggest the national dues be all required, no local dues on top of the national dues.

4. Do we need the BOD, can we live with just the president

Ray

[GSequoia]

I just realized that I may not be able to do April 26-27. Coachella Muisc Festival is that day, I may be going...

[MRHinkley]

The BB trip is out for me, I'll be at Fontana for Nascar.

Can something be setup on a chat one night and get things going.

Maybe getting a list of questions going and organizing the answers as to everyones prefences. Then we can start to narrow it down to who wants to do what and what needs to be handled. I'm sure it can be done with a sticky and update it as things progress.

Just some thoughts

mark hinkley

[Ed A. Stevens]

If Big Bear or the SBNF is a good choice for location...

Why not decide on an open weekend that will work without conflict?

The good thing about the SBNF is that it works for summer too.

I was asked a week ago to recommend a group camp with motorhome access? Is this still a criteria?

[Kejtar]

MR Hinkley :) .. you're a genius! :)

Kejtar

[MRHinkley]

Careful that might go to my head!

Damn is that a big enough avitar/picture? Sequoia.

mark hinkley

[GSequoia]

Yeah, I've actually already resized it (about twenty mintues ago), havne't quite gotten around to uploading it though...Thought it would do a bit of scaling for me, guess my hopes were too high!

Sequoia
(Really, it's not just that I'm egotistical!)

[MJR]

Ok everyone how about the weekend of April 12th in Big Bear to meet and discuss things ?.

[DesertXJ]

Sorry Mike,

That is the scheduled Hammers trip for NAXJA & SoCalXJ people. Goatman is the organizer for this one. Wow, this is getting harder all the time :roll: :roll:

[MJR]

You are right, I just looked over my e-mails again. March 29th-30th.

[Goatman]

Well, it's going to be hard to find a time that most who are interested can get together. Like I've said already, and Mark brought up again, we don't need a physical meeting to organize and start a chapter. I posted the requirements but they got lost in the crash, so I need to post them again. I'm pretty familiar with the process and will gladly answer any questions. I wouldn't mind doing a chat if it's a time that I'm available, but that would be almost impossible for me until after March 1st. If you all want to talk and throw out all the questions you have, I'll post answers as soon as I can. I'll also start another post with a list of the requirements.

If we all want to meet, I'd like to be there, but if I can't that's just the way it is. The only days I could do it would be Sunday March 2nd, April 12-13 during our JV run, or on Sunday April 27 after the Santiago event. I have a 30th anniversary trip in March, and also a family wedding with a whole crowd of out of town guests staying at my house the last weekend in March, and I work every other weekend. A run can still be planned for fun and those who can make it can talk about the chapter, and we can discuss the chapter with whoever makes it out to JV in April, and then do the final business on the web.

Richard G

[Kejtar]

I think we could get the ball rolling without an in person meeting. ALso I suggest that we adopt national bylaws instead of writing our own, which means we would need 5 bodies for BOD: I volunteer for any position except treasurer and I believe so does Seqouia. ANy other takers?

Kejtar

[Ed A. Stevens]

Meeting at JV to discuss the Chapter formation is good for me, and it may offer others a good look at some of the trails (without a condition to run any of the trails).

[GSequoia]

I should be able to come out to JV on the 12th as well, I won't be running anything though becuase everybody will just be laughing at my little red Jeep that couldn't.

And yeah, I'll do whatever is needed of me minus money. And I'll make myself available for a chat sometime.

[MJR]

Ok April 12th it is. I will be there to at least attend if not run trails.

[Jason Jones]

I'll be out there as well taking pictures and walking trails unless I can find a seat... My jeep is afraid of JV. Last time I tried to get out there just to watch it ate its alternator, we'll see what breaks this time...

[GSequoia]

Maybe I'll bring my bicycle! (god that would suck!)

MJR, are you thinking of a front loccker soon ?
Dave

[MJR]

[quote:47171d88cf="Anonymous"]MJR, are you thinking of a front loccker soon ?
Dave[/quote:47171d88cf]

I have a PowerTrax No Slip waiting when the guy gets it for me (long story). I plan on running this for a while. The Eaton Elocker won't be available for a D30 till sometime in 04 from what I have been told and that is what I really want.

[Bent]

Hey, where has this been hiding? I just Pay Pal'd my dues in yesterday. Big bear is good, less than an hour away. Unless you crawl up from silverwood, through Pinnicles & deep creek. Btw, the OHV area @ Cleghorn Rd. is closed, but the willow fire area behind Arrowhead is open as of last year.
Any weekend in March or April is good.

[Goatman]

So, it looks like we'll use the SoCal XJ run to Johnson Valley on April 12 to discuss forming a chapter. Mil is going to make his famous Carne Asada again, so if you want to come out bring something to throw in and have dinner. I told Mil we'd kick in to help him pay for the food. We can discuss the chapter after we finish the trails on Saturday evening around dinner and the campfire.

If you're not set up for those trails come and ride along with someone, there should be enough empty seats. We are going to do an introductory run on one of the easier trails, probably Clawhammer, so if you haven't ever run these trails you can get a taste for what it's like. We'll also run one of the harder trails, maybe Sledgehammer, so there will be two runs on Saturday. Some of the Sierra Chapter folks will also be joining us for the weekend.

Should be fun......always is out there. :D

Richard G

[RyanSullivan]

[quote:ccd4c900fa="Goatman"]So, it looks like we'll use the SoCal XJ run to Johnson Valley on April 12 to discuss forming a chapter. Mil is going to make his famous Carne Asada again, so if you want to come out bring something to throw in and have dinner. I told Mil we'd kick in to help him pay for the food. We can discuss the chapter after we finish the trails on Saturday evening around dinner and the campfire.

If you're not set up for those trails come and ride along with someone, there should be enough empty seats. We are going to do an introductory run on one of the easier trails, probably Clawhammer, so if you haven't ever run these trails you can get a taste for what it's like. We'll also run one of the harder trails, maybe Sledgehammer, so there will be two runs on Saturday. Some of the Sierra Chapter folks will also be joining us for the weekend.

Should be fun......always is out there. :D

Richard G[/quote:ccd4c900fa]

So are there ganan be easier runs for sure at JV? Or maybe I could just go and ride along :)

[KINGSIZE]

Looks like ill still have my XJ. Ill be out in JV as well.

Robert K

[Goatman]

[quote:992542f3f5="RyanSullivan"]
So are there ganan be easier runs for sure at JV? Or maybe I could just go and ride along :)[/quote:992542f3f5]

There are easier routes to explore, but you'd have more fun riding along with someone on the harder trails.

Richard G

[KINGSIZE]

Ill need to hitch a ride with someone on the trail. I make a great DOWN FORCE weight @ my 300lbs. :lol:

[RyanSullivan]

okay, now... who wants to adopt me into there jeep?? :D

[MJR]

Ryan I should have a open seat if I wheel the trails.