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sidewaysstarion
May 13th, 2013, 10:24
So a few weeks ago I installed a set of deavers on my rig and I've been noticed a loud banging from the rear when the suspension compresses (I jump my heep). I thought I was hitting the bumpstop or bottoming out the shocks, but I looked and found it was the spring clamps are hitting the body.:twak:Being this is my first set of deavers, is this normal?

http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c255/sidewaysstarion/18F72D54-FA77-472F-B762-C042628E9EF7-3748-000004E2CDE2F273.jpg
http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c255/sidewaysstarion/C98DE1D4-7CDC-48BF-B763-7820555F5BF7-3748-000004E2D3B3C9BE.jpg
http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c255/sidewaysstarion/574ECAC6-5FB4-4AFC-AB75-8AB9C236C33E-3748-000004E2D8FD8C19.jpg
http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c255/sidewaysstarion/8E384AB5-4DDE-4036-89AB-0F421CC11C4D-3748-000004E2DEA324BD.jpg
http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c255/sidewaysstarion/60DB7E81-AC5D-4357-A277-D8065F182C4C-3748-000004E2E42D36E3.jpg
http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c255/sidewaysstarion/92E318B7-3594-40FE-886D-22067391605C-3748-000004E2E8FB73A7.jpg
http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c255/sidewaysstarion/E685EBEC-3170-4BFC-B469-243D34247DF7-3748-000004E2EE2BE31F.jpg
http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c255/sidewaysstarion/4F9FDA3E-B70F-45CB-8233-932D0F0540BC-3748-000004E2F2E41338.jpg

DeftwillP
May 13th, 2013, 10:27
The photos are too small for me see what's going on.

Lowrange2
May 13th, 2013, 10:29
Seems like slightly longer bump stops would solve the problem.

sidewaysstarion
May 13th, 2013, 10:30
The spring clamps hit the body before I run out of shock up travel.

DeftwillP
May 13th, 2013, 10:32
I think Lowrange2 has it then. What length shocks are you running? How much uptravel do you have sitting at ride height? Are they stock mounting points at both ends?

Lowrange2
May 13th, 2013, 10:39
It just looks like to me that with the newer springs the bumpstop isn't going to come close to making contact at full compression.

sidewaysstarion
May 13th, 2013, 12:18
Well I installed Daystar extended bumpstops on after I took those pictures, that's why I was under the jeep. But the issue is the spring clamps are hitting the body, not the amount of shock travel I have vs my bumpstops.

XJLI
May 13th, 2013, 12:23
yea, if youre jumping your pile, you need to make sure your bumps are in order. should stop once that is squared away.

Lurch
May 13th, 2013, 13:09
Mark - you're going to need to create some sort of spacer to extend your bumpstop further to stop the springs from compressing/flattening so much. I had a 4" extended bumpstop bolted to a 2" piece of box tube bolted to the frame, and it still wasn't enough to stop my up travel where I wanted it to.

Ended up having to fashion a bump pad off the spring plate and connecting to the axle tube. (I'm riding a little higher than you though with JKS shackles and shackle box relocators)

sidewaysstarion
May 13th, 2013, 13:12
yea, if youre jumping your pile, you need to make sure your bumps are in order. should stop once that is squared away.

I agree, but if the spring clamps are hitting the body before I run out of uptravel then why would I set my bump stops to limit my uptravel. The spring clamps hit when I still have another 1.5-2" left on the shock uptravel. If you look closely in the pictures the spring clamps are actually bent now from them contacting the body.

XJLI
May 13th, 2013, 13:16
I agree, but if the spring clamps are hitting the body before I run out of uptravel then why would I set my bump stops to limit my uptravel. The spring clamps hit when I still have another 1.5-2" left on the shock uptravel. If you look closely in the pictures the spring clamps are actually bent now from them contacting the body.

who cares how much shock travel you have left. are the leaf springs inverting? you should have your bumps hit before that happens.

sidewaysstarion
May 13th, 2013, 13:18
who cares how much shock travel you have left. are the leaf springs inverting? you should have your bumps hit before that happens.


Not even close to inverting.

So looking around it looks like Deaver might have installed my front spring clamps on upside down.

http://naxja.org/forum/picture.php?albumid=344&pictureid=2014
http://www.eadoffroad.com/image/cache/data/products/currie/xj/CE-9095XJ-500x500.jpg

:twak: I guess it's time to call deaver and see how I can go about getting it fixed.

XJLI
May 13th, 2013, 13:27
how old are the springs? my deavers were stiff as hell and didnt move around right for the first few hundred miles after i put them in. take some better pictures.

sidewaysstarion
May 13th, 2013, 13:50
I dont know the age of the springs, but they were refreshed by deaver before I bought them. I've put about 3k street miles on them and a few trail miles, including gold mountain.

http://www.naxja.org/forum/showthread.php?t=1038941

travisk
May 13th, 2013, 14:24
Maybe they are supposed to be used with longer shackles? That would be an easy fix but you might not want the extra lift.

Edit: nevermind, it looks like they're hitting in the front.

XJLI
May 13th, 2013, 15:27
Not even close to inverting.

So looking around it looks like Deaver might have installed my front spring clamps on upside down.
:twak: I guess it's time to call deaver and see how I can go about getting it fixed.

well, dang. i'll look at mine when i'm home from work.

Lowrange2
May 13th, 2013, 15:41
Ya know. I was going to suggest flipping the clamps that were hitting upside down but I didn't think that was right either... Apparently, I was right and wasn't aware.

I know the clamps on my leaf packs are totally different. They don't stick up off the back at all.

XJLI
May 13th, 2013, 16:33
Yup, yours are upside down. My bad for assuming your setup was wrong.

http://i.imgur.com/UtiifcOl.jpg

VAhasnoWAVES
May 13th, 2013, 19:49
if your going to bump stop, you might want to fine tune your shackle angle to maximize your travel. if your stocks still have up travel, and youd like to reuse them, just relocate the lower mount upward.

Papercut
May 13th, 2013, 23:12
Here is a pic of my set, Mark any idea who rebuilt the spring packs?

Can't the clamps be filpped or would you need to send them in to do the work?

http://i255.photobucket.com/albums/hh144/punkassuare/IMAG0272.jpg

sidewaysstarion
May 13th, 2013, 23:14
I bought them from crazyjim and I think he said he had deaver rebuild them, I can't flip the clamp because its riveted to the spring pack, so it looks like I'll just barrow some springs and send those back to deaver.

Papercut
May 13th, 2013, 23:16
I think deaver isn't that far from me maybe they can just take care of it on the jeep?