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88 Xj: IAC Excess Engine Speed @ Start

RAVC1

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I've been involved in these discussions here on NAXJA before but, even searching for posts with my username did not identify anything...

Last year (?) I installed a different used B+ latch relay in an effort to remove my excessive engine speed at engine start (i.e., cold or warm restart). This improved my results but, rare excess engine speed starts still occurred. The problem has returned again and I have already tested a new 12 VDC B+ latch relay without success. Most of my engine starts are observed with excess engine speed.

From my reasoning, I need to begin suspecting my IAC motor (can I improve it by removal and lubrication?) or could this be the infamous TPS ground wire (that I have not yet added) problem showing its teeth? Is it possible that this could also be the C101 rearing its ugly head?

Please advise.

Rick
 
More than likely not the IAC. We just went through all of this on Cherokee Forum. It was the sensor ground circuit and C101 issues. It can also be the TPS failing on the engine side. Do the sensor ground test I'm adding below. Then you know where to start.



The C101 cleaning is ALWAYS a good idea BTW.

Here's a link:
http://www.cherokeeforum.com/f2/1988-cherokee-idle-issues-138153/

Cruiser’s Renix Sensor Ground Test
Set your meter to measure Ohms. Be sure the key is in the OFF position. Using the positive (red) lead of your ohmmeter, probe the B terminal of the flat 3 wire connector of the TPS . The letters are embossed on the connector itself.
Touch the black lead of your meter to the negative battery post. Wiggle the wiring harness where it runs parallel to the valve cover and also near the MAP sensor mounted on the firewall. If you have an 87 or 88 with the C101 connector mounted on the firewall above the brake booster, wiggle it, too.
You want to see as close to 0 ohms of resistance as possible. And when wiggling the harnesses/connectors the resistance value should stay low. If there is a variance in the values when wiggling the wires, you have a poor crimp/connection in the wiring harness or a poor ground at the engine dipstick tube stud. On 87 and 88 models, you could have a poor connection at the C101 connector as well.
Revised 05/03/2012
 
A high idle at startup is also caused by the latch relay. One of its purpose is to give the computer time to put the IAC in the start up position. If it doesn't get set, your startup rpms will soar but then back down to normal.
 
If you take the inlet tube off the top of the TB, you can look down the bypass bore where the IAC sits and observe it's behavior.

When running warmed up, the pintle should be nearly fully extended blocking off the bypass. When you shut down, the B latch engages to retract the pintle in preparation for the next start up. Once you start, the pintle should extend to reduce the idle to normal.

Sometimes the bore is a little coked up causing the pintle to stick. A little TB cleaner usually does the trick. Or remove the IAC and use TB cleaner and a bottle brush to thoroughly clean the bore and seat out.
 
old_man - Yes, the engine speed reduces on the current start.

Saudade - Good thought regarding cleaning. I recently discovered the MAP vacuum line had a small tear. This was causing louder engine starts/operation, and causing the CCV system grief. Once I replaced the line no more oil on the valve cover...until this past week when it began to weep up out of the larger front port (i.e., inlet from air filter box) so, I need to examine the rear 2 mm port and vacuum line again to check for obstructions. During this period I also smelled fuel so, I replaced all 12 injector o-rings. I was surprised how much build-up was in the hole of the manifold. This observation is consistent with your point.

Rick
 
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