Inverted T steering Q

yossarian19 · Apr 22, 2011

I've looked at some threads and haven't found the info I'm looking for.
I want to upgrade my steering and get better feel / precision and less wander without losing my sway bars or changing from factory wheels.
My plan, as it stands, is to run a DOM tie rod under the knuckle & fab a couple tabs to capture the drag link on the passenger's side.
I'd run 3/4" heims, if that matters, and orient the drag link to tie rod heim to prevent misalignment.
Has anyone run this and had clearance issues? They might be all the same problems as the full crossover... I'm not clear.

Might be time to buy some heims & PVC, start playing around...

whitexj98 · Apr 22, 2011

I think the "couple of tabs to capture the draglink" will be the most difficult. Blue torch fab offered a bracket but I can't find it on thier web site anymore.

yossarian19 · Apr 22, 2011

hmm. How wide are most 3/4" heims? I'm guessing, now that I think of it, that they won't fit between two pieces of plate welded to the sides of 1.5" DOM.

xcm · Apr 22, 2011

depends on the missalignment spacers you get. but no, it doesnt allways work out perfect in the real world. bend one side, and use wide washers as mock up to make sure its flat and paralell when you weld.

cal · Apr 22, 2011

Are you stuck on inverted T?

Goatman did an over the knuckle inverted Y with heims on his buggy. It is some of the best handling steering that i have ever seen.

Tech here:

http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/showpost.php?p=10309699&postcount=21

yossarian19 · Apr 22, 2011

I'm not stuck on inverted T - it is just one (potentially) good way to reach my goal of a tight handling XJ with sway bars intact.

jeeps4fun · Apr 22, 2011

Pics of an inverted T? Ne'er heard of it.

On the pics of the inverted Y. There is a pSC ram, where is it attached to?

cal · Apr 22, 2011

jeeps4fun said:
Pics of an inverted T? Ne'er heard of it.

On the pics of the inverted Y. There is a pSC ram, where is it attached to?

I don't have any pictures readily available that show it, but it should attach to the draglink. PM him and he can snap a good pic for you.

techno1154 · Apr 22, 2011

cal said:
Are you stuck on inverted T?

Goatman did an over the knuckle inverted Y with heims on his buggy. It is some of the best handling steering that i have ever seen.

Tech here:

http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/showpost.php?p=10309699&postcount=21

Cal, Is that a steering damper I see there? If so, How does it attach to the drag link?

cal · Apr 22, 2011

There is no steering damper. That's probably the hydro assist ram.

(this isn't my rig, i drug the pictures up to share the tech - this is goatmans KOH buggy).

cal · Apr 22, 2011

Went digging throuh pics from when we prep'd the car for KOH 2009.

Looks like its a double ended hi steer arm.

sunburned · Apr 22, 2011

I'm guessing by his pics that he has a passenger side hi-steer arm that extends on the front and the back. I think the ram is steering assist on the back part of the arm because his steering setup doesn't really leave a good place to mount a ram up front.

Wow, there is a lot going on with that axle haha.

techno1154 · Apr 22, 2011

Cal, Those pictures are invaluable. The entire front end of my XJ need to be rebuilt including TRE's and Balljoints. I want to do a custom inverted 'Y' but had a hard time putting it together in my mind. Now I have something to use as a guide.

That is some drop there on that axle.

cal · Apr 22, 2011

sunburned said:
I'm guessing by his pics that he has a passenger side hi-steer arm that extends on the front and the back. I think the ram is steering assist on the back part of the arm because his steering setup doesn't really leave a good place to mount a ram up front.

I said that.

sunburned said:
Wow, there is a lot going on with that axle haha.

There is a lot going on with that car.

One of the more capable XJ's out there.

jeeps4fun · Apr 22, 2011

Could the inverted Y be used with the stock mounting location? Just mounted over the knuckle

cal · Apr 22, 2011

When you're building something custom, you can build it however you want.

You could do stock locations over the knuckle yes.

sunburned · Apr 22, 2011

Haha yeah, you musta beat me by 3 seconds on that last post. And I've seen Goatman's rig a ton, that thing is nuts. I kind of want to do something relatively similar and use all the "stock" parts from my XJ to build a small lightweight buggy, but I really need a garage first. And a house, tow vehicle, and trailer too...

yossarian19 · Apr 23, 2011

So... what is a good tight way to do steering with stock sway bars? Seems like most of the discussion is around high dollar highly modified rigs

sunburned · Apr 23, 2011

Stock sway bar mounts? Currie.

You can use your stock sway bar with any setup, you just have to weld on new mounts. I got the mounts from JKS and got one welded on, but I'm afraid its going to be coming off again when I change the setup again.

Johnnie Walker · Apr 24, 2011

yossarian19 said:
So... what is a good tight way to do steering with stock sway bars? Seems like most of the discussion is around high dollar highly modified rigs

I believe you would have to stay UTK, to keep stock swaybar mounts.

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