MWC Redbird Trail Clean Up

[HaleYes]

I noticed that things could use some tidying up on the trail at Redbird this weekend. We seen everything from beer cans to tire/wheels to hoods. There is also places that could use a little shovel time to drain some of the massive holes. We could talk to management to see what they wanted/needed done. I'd like to have a trail clean up sometime this spring. IMO, we as a chapter need to do more activities like this. No since in doing it in the dead of cold, might as well wait till it warms up, maybe this comming spring. Maybe clean up one day and wheel the next. I tossed out the idea to others this weekend and it seemed to be well recieved. Might be handy to have an ATV/UTV or two when we do this too. Maybe even the chapter could provide hotdogs for lunch for us and the Redbird staff. Let me know what you guys think. I think it'd be a great way to show our apperciation and support.


Hale

[87manche]

I think that's an excellent idea. When we were out last time I tossed an empty oil container and some otehr stuff in the back of mark's MJ. Seems that some of the hillbillies just chuck trash out.

[IntrepidXJ]

Seems that some of the hillbillies just chuck trash out.

Well, it is Indiana ;)

Anyways, great idea.

[ILLXJ]

Let's make it a warm, dry day. JIM.

[scoobyxj]

I mentioned it to the gate attendent when I was leaving. He said that would be great. I also asked him about the lack of trash can problem. He said that they're trying to get a dumpster for the sights, but the policy is "Pack it in Pack it out" thats why they don't have any trash cans. I said, "If we where to help to provide some would the staff keep them empty". He said, "I don't know". I feel regardless of the policy the cans should be provided as long as the volonteer staff will empty them. I think people will be more apted to put the trash in a receptacle rather than just toss it. At the least we could look into helping provide the dumptster.

[Lawn Cher']

I mentioned it to the gate attendent when I was leaving. He said that would be great. I also asked him about the lack of trash can problem. He said that they're trying to get a dumpster for the sights, but the policy is "Pack it in Pack it out" thats why they don't have any trash cans. I said, "If we where to help to provide some would the staff keep them empty". He said, "I don't know". I feel regardless of the policy the cans should be provided as long as the volonteer staff will empty them. I think people will be more apted to put the trash in a receptacle rather than just toss it. At the least we could look into helping provide the dumptster.

Regardless of a dumpster or trash barrels, we should put the MWC insignia on them.

[87manche]

Regardless of a dumpster or trash barrels, we should put the MWC insignia on them.
and kill our "badass" image?
we should rape and pillage, then provide a dumpter :D

[kndrewa]

I have never been to REDBIRD, but I would enjoy a cleanup one day trailride the next type of event. how far from chicago>?

im in!

[87manche]

http://maps.google.com/maps?client=opera&rls=en&q=chicago%2C%20il%20to%20dugger%2C%20in&sourceid=opera&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&sa=N&tab=wl

[kndrewa]

thanks..

i am begining to see a trend here...

...if i want to wheel.. ...i have to drive.

i miss wyoming.

[Prepmech]

Forget the trash cans and dumpsters. They are too expensive, and we don't go to redbird enought to justify the expense. That is something that should be provided by a local club that is there more often.

A clean up is a great idea. We would need dumpsters there that day, which is easy enough to arrange, and not terribly expensive for a one time thing. How would we pay for them? Is there money allocated for events that could be used? Would a shop sponsor it?

[Lawn Cher']

Forget the trash cans and dumpsters. They are too expensive, and we don't go to redbird enought to justify the expense. That is something that should be provided by a local club that is there more often.

A clean up is a great idea. We would need dumpsters there that day, which is easy enough to arrange, and not terribly expensive for a one time thing. How would we pay for them? Is there money allocated for events that could be used? Would a shop sponsor it?

We have money in the treasury that might be available. Needs to be discussed further among the BOD, maybe after Winterfest. It'd be nice if we could maybe catch a discount from one of those dumpster rental places in exchange for mentioning them in a writeup for the NAXJA & UFWDA newsletters as well as a local paper.

[87manche]

we could just use the back of your MJ.

[Lawn Cher']

we could just use the back of your MJ.

The back of my MJ is going into the dumpster.

[scoobyxj]

The back of my MJ is going into the dumpster.
Don't let Eagle find out, or there will be hell to pay. :D

[scoobyxj]

Forget the trash cans and dumpsters. They are too expensive, and we don't go to redbird enought to justify the expense. That is something that should be provided by a local club that is there more often.


I have come acrost three 55 gallon barrals for free, and was told where I could inquire on a source for more free ones. They contained pop syrup, nothing bad enviromently. I am more concerned on getting them emptied by the staff.

[HaleYes]

I have come acrost three 55 gallon barrals for free, and was told where I could inquire on a source for more free ones. They contained pop syrup, nothing bad enviromently. I am more concerned on getting them emptied by the staff.
Yeah, pop isn't bad for you.....

BTW, you ever use CocaCola to eat the crap off of your battery terminals?
:D

You gonna lug 3+trash barrels 6hours in your XJ?
:spin1:


Hale

[scoobyxj]

You gonna lug 3+trash barrels 6hours in your XJ?
:spin1:


Hale
I was thinking about that. I'll just make No show with the MJ bring them.
That, or drag the trailer along.:dunno:

[HaleYes]

Open top barrels won't work either. They'll need to have a flat metal lid with a handle. They are not hinged, just a lift it up and toss in garbage lid, usually secured to an adjcent post with a chain. Open top barrels will be a varmint attractant, trash would scattered everywhere. Coons and such can't get into them with the lids. That's the way they have them at the local parks here and it seems to work.


Hale

[scoobyxj]

The three have tops. how they're on there I don't know. I will run over, and get them tomarrow. See What I can come up with. Realisticly I'm thinking three, or four will do. One at the restrooms, one at the pavilion, one at the far end of parking lot, and maybe one at the gate house.

[Lawn Cher']

Don't let Eagle find out, or there will be hell to pay. :D

Eagle smeagle, have you noticed he's flown the coop? Believe me, I've dined with the man (he attended my wedding actually) and he would approve of what I have in mind as a replacement.

[scoobyxj]

Eagle smeagle, have you noticed he's flown the coop?

Actually I have.

[Lawn Cher']

Nice turkey, by the way.

[scoobyxj]

Thanks, I need something to combat with Colonel Sanders there. :D

[Dirk Pitt]

I may have access to topped drums also.

I'm 1.5 hours away from Redbird and would not mind taking them there.

Gives me a real excuse to go next spring anyway.

[Lawn Cher']

Gives me a real excuse to go next spring anyway.

Excuse? How about this one... "'Cause I want to! Now get in the kitchen and bake me a pie!"

[BRIANHO13]

Careful, you might make her cry.

[Lawn Cher']

Careful, you might make her cry.

I know, Adam's really sensitive. I'm such a jerk.:eye:

[87manche]

I was thinking about that. I'll just make No show with the MJ bring them.
That, or drag the trailer along.:dunno:
that cuts deep.
not my fault the d30 assploded

[Lawn Cher']

that cuts deep.
not my fault the d30 assploded

Better you than me. :gag:

[Rev Den]

Excuse? How about this one... "'Cause I want to! Now get in the kitchen and bake Rev and Lawn Cher muffins!"

Fixed it, my fellow large man. :D

Rev

[Lawn Cher']

Fixed it, my fellow large man. :D

Rev

Always thinking... I love you REV!

[scoobyxj]

that cuts deep.
not my fault the d30 assploded

Make another comment about my allterrains, and see what happens.:eek:

[ihscoutlover]

I may have access to some plastic or metal 55 Gal Drums, plastics had floor cleaner and WW fluid(windshield washer), I know I can get several of these, although the metal ones had lucas oil stabilizer in it, they do come with lids that are fastened with metal bands. Need to know where this Redbird park/trail is located, I have a trailer I could tow some of these to there if need be. By the way, thanks Mark for leading me to this forum, looks like several persons are leading me to lift my XJ to clear some 31's.

Jeff

[Lawn Cher']

I may have access to some plastic or metal 55 Gal Drums, plastics had floor cleaner and WW fluid(windshield washer), I know I can get several of these, although the metal ones had lucas oil stabilizer in it, they do come with lids that are fastened with metal bands. Need to know where this Redbird park/trail is located, I have a trailer I could tow some of these to there if need be. By the way, thanks Mark for leading me to this forum, looks like several persons are leading me to lift my XJ to clear some 31's.

Jeff

You're very welcome, Jeff. How'd those wheels work out for ya?

[ihscoutlover]

Currently in storage, have another line on another XJ and they will be going on it. They are excellent. Thanks Mark.

Jeff

[Lawn Cher']

Currently in storage, have another line on another XJ and they will be going on it. They are excellent. Thanks Mark.

Jeff

Hey, I'm just happy to have the space... finally got my garage cleaned up and can actually work inside it.

[ILLXJ]

Hey, I'm just happy to have the space... finally got my garage cleaned up and can actually work inside it.
So put a new seat on your tractor & quit whining. JIM.

[Lawn Cher']

So put a new seat on your tractor & quit whining. JIM.

Hmm, not a bad idea.

[87manche]

the "compact" model:
http://www.mytscstore.com/detail.asp?pcID=4&paID=1032&sonID=42&page=1&productID=17103

one I think better suited for you:
http://www.mytscstore.com/detail.asp?pcID=4&paID=1032&sonID=42&page=1&productID=17064

[Lawn Cher']

She thinks my tractor's sexy (even though its small.)

[LBEXJ]

She thinks my tractor's sexy (even though its small.)
I think my tractor is sexy ....

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v696/lbexj/1948DCCasePic1.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v696/lbexj/1948DCCasePic2.jpg

Les

[scoobyxj]

I think my tractor is sexy ....

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v696/lbexj/1948DCCasePic1.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v696/lbexj/1948DCCasePic2.jpg

Les Is that a DC? My dad has an SC, and it doesn't quite match. The three point is totaly different, there is no hydro's. There is also no shock on the seat, and I don't think the air intake is quite that tall.

[LBEXJ]

Is that a DC? My dad has an SC, and it doesn't quite match. The three point is totaly different, there is no hydro's. There is also no shock on the seat, and I don't think the air intake is quite that tall.
Yep ... a DC.

The hydraulic pump (I believe) is from an early 50's model Case and the 3-point is farmfabbed. I got this tractor from my Great Uncle several years ago, and this had been installed when I got it. AFAIK ... Everything else is original outside of new paint and decals.

It was a clean-up/restore project I did a couple years ago. I like antique tractors ... if I had the money, it'd be another hobby. :)

Les

[scoobyxj]

It was a clean-up/restore project :)

Les

Thats what has been done to dads SC. He still uses it to power augers because of the hand cluch, and the throttle being low. Nice to not have to climb up on the tractor to start up an auger, and adjust the speed. He also has a Case 630, and a Farmall Super M with hydraulics, and power stearing.
On the Case SC there is a metal piece that goes between the air cleaner and the carb. His rusted out, and he was never able to locate a replacement. You wouldn't happen to know a good place to look for one would you? There is rubber hose on it now, but the gas fumes rott it out over time.

[HaleYes]

Unless you plan on bringing them....

Tractors=Nothing to do with Redbird Trail Clean Up.
:anon:


BTW, very nice specimen there Les.
:thumbup:


Hale

[LBEXJ]

I have used mine in the woods to pull logs, also for mowing, and to maintain my driveway. I was a bit aggravated at myself when I got the exaust pipe into a limb and broke the exhaust manifold at the bend where the pipe attaches. Right now, it is sitting in the barn at my MoM's with the broken manifold, a bad tire, and the hydraulic pump in need of re-building. Too many irons to fire plus the Jeep habit have relegated it to a one-of-these-days project. The hand clutch is a definate plus ... except when trying to back up a trailer ... got contortion?
... On the Case SC there is a metal piece that goes between the air cleaner and the carb. His rusted out, and he was never able to locate a replacement. You wouldn't happen to know a good place to look for one would you? There is rubber hose on it now, but the gas fumes rott it out over time.
The DC has a cast oil bath chamber that attaches to the carburator. The air tube attaches to it and runs up through the hood. There is a cap with a screen in it to catch the "big stuff". Is this what you are talking about? To be honest, I don't recall seeing an SC Case to have a picture of what is there. Not too many Case enthusiasts in the local club (which I am not a member). I can ask around though as I know some of the members. Do y'all have a local antique tractor club locally?

Les

PS: Sorry about the hijack guys ...

[LBEXJ]

Unless you plan on bringing them....

Tractors=Nothing to do with Redbird Trail Clean Up.
:anon:


BTW, very nice specimen there Les.
:thumbup:


Hale
I know Mike ... too bad you or I cannot move the posts to another thread. Maybe Rev or Sean will take care of it (EDIT: Or not :D - Rev) ...

It all started so innocently though. ;)

... and thanks!

Les

[LBEXJ]

... and kick Jim in the nads for me. He started it by telling Mark to get a new tractor seat! :D

Les

[ILLXJ]

No, I was telling him to quit whining. JIM.

[LBEXJ]

So put a new seat on your tractor & quit whining. JIM.


No, I was telling him to quit whining. JIM.
Yep ... :D

Les

[HaleYes]

We still interested in the trail clean up?
I'll talk to the folks at Redbird and see what they have to say if we are.
Let me know guys.


Hale

[sgtmack]

If I'm off, I'll be there. party1:

[Dirk Pitt]

What are the goals? Actual trail clean up or just cans in the parking lot?

[HaleYes]

What are the goals? Actual trail clean up or just cans in the parking lot?

That's what I'd like to ask the Redbird Management. Find out what they'd like done, or could use some help with, and do that.


EDIT: I have approached the Redbird management, letting them know we are willing/wanting to help. I'll post up with what I hear back from them.

[IntrepidXJ]

i'd be interested.....but it will ultimately depends on when it's scheduled and what my work schedule is like

[Prepmech]

i'd be interested.....but it will ultimately depends on when it's scheduled and what my work schedule is like

X2

[3jeeps]

Redbird is having a trail cleanup this weekend. I think alot of the atv clubs and IFWDA are going to go. All they want is some branches,downed trees and of course trash cleaned up. If anyone looked at my post about the 33" trxus muds for sale i mentioned that I am in jpfrog offroaders and we have adopted trail 1. They want us to try to haul in some gravel?rocks in there somewhere. There is no charge for this cleenup but I think i't only sat. 3/24. Just wanted to throw this out there for you. I was pres. of jpfrog and now I'm sittin on the fun side of the front table, so I'm going to try to get a little more involved in this forum. Don't know if I'll get the xj out much, I'ts my wifes DD for now. but i have enjoyed this site for some good ideas for a little lift ect. for her jeep, Mike

[87manche]

i'd be interested.....but it will ultimately depends on when it's scheduled and what my work schedule is like
x3.

I would like to go back there with my own junk. So I can F it up all like Marks.

[BRIANHO13]

x3.

I would like to go back there with my own junk. So I can F it up all like Marks.

REDBIRD is where I have gotten 80% of my body damage. I might be in I might not.....not really to excited about REDBIRD. I will be posting up a couple trail runs shortly as soon as I know when I will be in the country this year.

[HaleYes]

REDBIRD is where I have gotten 80% of my body damage. I might be in I might not.....not really to excited about REDBIRD. I will be posting up a couple trail runs shortly as soon as I know when I will be in the country this year.

Sourpuss.

:rattle:

[BRIANHO13]

Sourpuss.

:rattle:

Try out trail 14 (I think) let me know if you don't get a little damage. good thing about that trail is I rarely let off camber bother me anymore.

[HaleYes]

Redbird is having a trail cleanup this weekend. I think alot of the atv clubs and IFWDA are going to go. All they want is some branches,downed trees and of course trash cleaned up. If anyone looked at my post about the 33" trxus muds for sale i mentioned that I am in jpfrog offroaders and we have adopted trail 1. They want us to try to haul in some gravel?rocks in there somewhere. There is no charge for this cleenup but I think i't only sat. 3/24. Just wanted to throw this out there for you. I was pres. of jpfrog and now I'm sittin on the fun side of the front table, so I'm going to try to get a little more involved in this forum. Don't know if I'll get the xj out much, I'ts my wifes DD for now. but i have enjoyed this site for some good ideas for a little lift ect. for her jeep, Mike

Well that sucks!

I just got off the phone with Rick (littlered).
Sounds like it's going to be quite a day.
I wish I would have stumbled across it sooner.
Hopefully we'll still be able to lend a hand sometime later this spring.

Hale

[kndrewa]

i'd be interested.....but it will ultimately depends on when it's scheduled and what my work schedule is like


x 2

[Lawn Cher']

x3.

I would like to go back there with my own junk. So I can F it up all like Marks.

Way to be an original thinker there, Nate.

[87manche]

Way to be an original thinker there, Nate.

oh come on, my truck has a whole bunch of your old trucks parts, I figure it's fitting.

[Lawn Cher']

oh come on, my truck has a whole bunch of your old trucks parts, I figure it's fitting.

You have a point. Got stake-body?

[87manche]

You have a point. Got stake-body?
working on that design.
I think I'm going for the old power wagon look, with some removable trailer fenders over the wheels.

[HaleYes]

Well, to keep this on topic.....sorry guys.:D


The only response I've gotten out of the Redbird people is that we missed out on the big clean up last weekend. I've asked. I'm not going to beg for us to help them out. I'll post up if I hear anything else. My Redbird forum account is all fubar'd, I may have a PM concerning it but, I can't read it. I've sent 2 e-mails to the Admin. over there and nothing.....I'm about to the point of saying screw it.:smsoap:

Hale

[bshaw]

if they don't want to help themselves out, f it then! wouldn't even worry about Mike.

[87manche]

dude, no shit, we're trying to help them out.
is there some bylaw that says you can't cleanup a trail in the middle of the summer?

[BRIANHO13]

For shits sake, go wheel there and pick up trash as you see it. Every time out should be a trail clean up wherever you go.

[Prepmech]

For shits sake, go wheel there and pick up trash as you see it. Every time out should be a trail clean up wherever you go.

X2!

Starting to change my mind on this whole trail clean-up thing, and got an idea. Why not spend the time and effort coming up with some sort of trail trash bag with the MWC logo or NAXJA logo on it that we could hand out at each event. Then when we left the park, we would leave a good impression when everyone saw the trash we were hauling out. I know Rural King has custom lawn bags made, they are the thick ones. I've got some connections over there and can make some calls.

Or...
We could just fill up the back of Nate's commanche! It would just fall out the side if we threw it in the back of Mark's rig.

[87manche]

For shits sake, go wheel there and pick up trash as you see it. Every time out should be a trail clean up wherever you go.
I did, ask mark about all that nasty trash I threw in his bed.

Still though, I don't want to be cleaning up a trail, and be in the way of people trying to run a trail.
I'd rather that they jsut close that trail for the day, and let us clean it without having to worry about other vehicles, and getting out of the way for them.

[87manche]

X2!


We could just fill up the back of Nate's commanche! It would just fall out the side if we threw it in the back of Mark's rig.
sweet, I'm gonna get a sticker made for it "MWC Dumptruck"
seriously though, I had planned on using the Mj in this capacity, I wouldn't want all you XJ guys to get your grocery getter interiors dirty :D

[cardboard]

Haleyes I think I heard that Redbird has lost control of there website (hackers) so dont be to hard on them because of no word.

[HaleYes]

Haleyes I think I heard that Redbird has lost control of there website (hackers) so dont be to hard on them because of no word.

Multiple emails were sent to multiple different domains. Still nothing.

[xjunkie8796]

This may be a little off topic but is anyone heading up there this Sunday??