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3 link or 4 link ??
- Thread starter guswheels
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ColoradoRaptor
Headbanging Hillbilly
- Location
- Canon City, Crawlorado
I run the BDS longarm and I love how it works on and offroad! Your frontend geometry stays true throughout flex and you will not bind or unload. I do have one minor complaint with the upper control arm flex joints. They wear to quickly and you cannot tighten them (snap rings on both sides). You can however buy the rebuild kit and rebuild them...... Other than that AWESOME design and product!!:thumbup:
DeftwillP
NAXJA Forum User
- Location
- Round Rock TX
Do you have any fab skills? You could make your own given all the write-ups on here and pirate.
And before anybody lists it, IRO is not a 3-link.
And before anybody lists it, IRO is not a 3-link.
ColoradoRaptor
Headbanging Hillbilly
- Location
- Canon City, Crawlorado
Welding is an art and many here do not understand that!! I would not trust 90% of the socalled welders here! He would most likely be better of buying a professionally made product! Fab skills.......:laugh:....... most anybody can run a bead od sorts..... :laugh:
xcm
NAXJA Forum User
- Location
- Southern Oregon
it's all about developing skills, if your welds suck, KEEP WELDING, but practice on non structural stuff like bumpers, one day you'll be ready for the long arm project (im starting to build my long arms, and finally trust my welds for such!)
ktm racer 419
NAXJA Forum User
- Location
- ROW DIALIN
both are decent setups
any longarm will flex more than you need/want it to.
any longarm will flex more than you need/want it to.
- Location
- Hartsville, South Carolina
Couldn't you remove an arm for wheeling and make the 4 link a 3 link and flex even better! :shocked:
ColoradoRaptor
Headbanging Hillbilly
- Location
- Canon City, Crawlorado
i think i understand what your saying, but you make it sound like only a few people can actually weld.
welding is a skill that anybody with mechanical ability can learn to do. just because some people make it look like a "work of art", doesnt mean a person cant learn to make a compitent weld.
as for the BDS 4-link, what style trackbar(single or double shear) comes with the long arm kit?
- Location
- Southern Maryland
Anybody can hit keys on a piano doesn't mean I want them playing in my house all day. Welding is a skill that is developed, structural stuff is too important for 99% of the people out there.
dirtbagXJ2103
NAXJA Forum User
- Location
- valley center, CA
take a tig class, it will help with your mig welding
redrider2911
NAXJA Forum User
- Location
- Yakima, WA
The BDS kit looks pretty good, solid material. I dont like how the upper mounts seem to extend forward off the crossmember without much support, if you ever need to do any tranny work you will have to block the axles and take of the whole 4 link to drop the crossmember, and that forth link on the drivers side will cause binding with the pan hard. Im redesigning my 3 link with future maintenance in mind ( a seperate belly skid/crossmember and 3 link mounting points) so that you can just drop the crossmember.
fixed for you.
stick lets you learn all about puddle control and heat management, without having to learn hand/hand/foot coordination. glad i learned that first
once you stop watching the arc, and start watching the puddle, the world is your burrito
Timmy2XJS
NAXJA Forum User
- Location
- cherry point NC
way off track for this thread but im in a TIG class at the moment and all it did for my MIG skills is piss me off when i MIG. TIG is clean and looks sexy. my MIG is not so much lol
Fabing the kit up is not a problem talent wise just time wise lol. Ionly have saturday and sunday mornings to work on the thing and its my daily driver. I work a ful time and part time job so it sucks. I havent found a perfect kit yet. The rock krawler kit looks cheap from the pics and the crossmember removal issue bds has is horrible too. I did a front and rear clayton kit on a zj I had,Real nice stuff but I didnt want to go radius arm again. Ploy performance 3 link is nice but big money. I call balistic and now e.t.a on there 3 link kit. ....decisions...decisions...
ColoradoRaptor
Headbanging Hillbilly
- Location
- Canon City, Crawlorado
Where are you getting your info? I run the longarm and love the ease of removal as well as access to all the driveline componets for maintance!! Are you coming to this conclusion through pictures........ if so you are highly misinformed!! Quit posting BS rumors and conjecture!!
redrider2911
NAXJA Forum User
- Location
- Yakima, WA
Its common sense man. Can you drop the transmission or t case without dropping the crossmember? NO Can you drop the crossmember without blocking up the axle and removing the links? NO Can you replace a worn out tranny mount without dropping the crossmember? no, well maybe, but it would be quicker to block the axle, take off the links, and drop the crossmember because there isnt much room to work and replace that tranny mount.
No one said anything about driveline maintenance. driveTRAIN maintenance. aka tranny, t case, engine.
- Location
- Port Orchard, WA
how many times are you guys replacing transmissions and t-cases?
I've been beating on my jeep for 6 years now, and have had a total of 4 t-cases in there, and changed the clutch once...
how hard is it to take 4 bolts out?
buy the suspension that you want to make your rig perform the way you want to...
I've been beating on my jeep for 6 years now, and have had a total of 4 t-cases in there, and changed the clutch once...
how hard is it to take 4 bolts out?
buy the suspension that you want to make your rig perform the way you want to...
Its no b.s open your eyes and take a look it. Trans service is not gonna happen with disconnecting the front links. Lighten up 50 % of most things on these forums are b.s you need to weed thru it all to get the good info
