Hobart 140 or Lincoln 140?

[jeepfreak1020]

so im getting ready to buy a welder here soon. I want to stay with a 110 because I want to have to wire the garage up for 220. So should I go with the hobart 140 or the Lincoln 140? I have the lincoln 140 at school and use it alot and love it, never had a problem with it and lincolns products are great. Hobart on the other hand I dont know very much about. Ive read about the 140 being a pretty good welder but I havent had any experience with it. So just looking for some feedback.

[wishihad1]

Im pretty much in the same boat. I was looking at getting the hobart 180 until i found out it would be no less then 600 bucks to get my garage wired for 220...so that kind of ruined that plan

tractor supply in my town has the hobart 140 with regulator, and a few other accessories for around 450, and lowes has a similar weld pack with the lincoln for around 580. not sure which one im gonna go with yet. Hobart stuff has been getting pretty good reviews, but I like the idea of having a lincoln and being able to go to any welding shop and easily find tips and other consumables for it

hobart max rating is 1/4, while the lincoln is 5/16s. most of the stuff ill be using this welder for is setting up link systems, and other thicker stuff, so ideally a larger machine is what I need, but with my constraints i think its gonna have to be a 110 machine

[stumpXJ]

Hobart is made by Miller. You wont have any trouble finding any parts. I would choose a Hobart over a lincoln anyday, simply because its a miller machine.

~ James

[hghgrad]

I use my Lincoln 140 numerous times a week for the last 3 years...never had an issue.

[foxwar71]

lowes has a similar weld pack with the lincoln for around 580.


DONT buy the lowes/home depot versions!! theyre a crappier version of the regular lincolns made just for those stores. some internal parts are different and different quailty. the store models use tapped voltage settings. Welding supply stores and such will have continuous voltage settings. Continuous allows you to fine tune your settings depending on what youre welding. tapped means youre stuck with 5 or 7 specific voltages settings.



IIRC most of the lincoln 140's are setup for tapped whereas the hobart/miller 140's are continuous.







I highly recommand you look at the Miller 211 MVP. Allows you run on either 110 OR 220. Anyone whos buying a welder and only has 110 available should think about it. Now, down the line, if/when you decide to get 220, youre machine is already ready!!! theyre a badass machine too, my buddy just got one and it welded my 5/16" thick truss to 1/2" thick axle tubes like butter.

http://www.airgas.com/browse/product.aspx?Msg=RecID&recIds=65255&WT.svl=65255

[AIbandit]

DONT buy the lowes/home depot versions!! theyre a crappier version of the regular lincolns made just for those stores. some internal parts are different and different quailty. the store models use tapped voltage settings. Welding supply stores and such will have continuous voltage settings. Continuous allows you to fine tune your settings depending on what youre welding. tapped means youre stuck with 5 or 7 specific voltages settings.
Just look at the model number a 140c is continuous a 140T is tap.
I just bought a 180c myself. Lincoln has a 75$ rebate thing going on right now

[Coastie]

until i found out it would be no less then 600 bucks to get my garage wired for 220...

Really? Wiring a garage for 220 is one of the eaiser things you can do. Just be smart about it.

http://www.xomba.com/how_to_wire_a_220v_wall_outlet

Google some more, I wired mine in under an hour.

[AIbandit]

Damn I was looking forward to the read but my govy comp keeps freezing at that site.

[xcm]

Really? Wiring a garage for 220 is one of the eaiser things you can do. Just be smart about it.



ASSuming you have wiring from the pole that can handle it, my duplex did NOT!

[AIbandit]

My service panel doesn't have any more room for breakers. Don't really want to add being that it's a rental back to the extension cord plan.

[BoringDave]

ASSuming you have wiring from the pole that can handle it, my duplex did NOT!

I thought a 200 amp service was code?:dunno:

[american_zero]

I'm thinking of getting a Hobart 140. Any place in particular you suggest for the best price? Northern Tool looks pretty good. $479 w/free shipping might be hard to beat.

[justin_502]

Get the Millermatic 211, really nice machine that you will not have to upgrade later. It runs on 120v or 220v. I got the lincoln 180 and it works good, but I want to upgrade to the lincoln 255 or the miller 252. Spend a lil more money the first time, saves in the long run. If your a beginner the millermatic 211 also has a autoset, makes welding very easy

[american_zero]

Unfortunately $950+ is not in the budget at the moment. For what I'll be doing, the Hobart 140 will be more than enough. Anything heavier I can tack up and have it burned in by someone with a bigger machine.

[jdbwrx]

I'm thinking of getting a Hobart 140. Any place in particular you suggest for the best price? Northern Tool looks pretty good. $479 w/free shipping might be hard to beat.


ToolKing has factory recertified ones for just over $400. They come with the same warranty as new ones.

[american_zero]

Thanks for the tip. I just checked ToolKing and I couldn't find it (but they do have a good price on a plasma cutter :) ), so maybe they are out at the moment. But if they charge shipping, then it's probably starting to get really close to Northern Tool's price of $479 for the new one.

[jdbwrx]

Thanks for the tip. I just checked ToolKing and I couldn't find it (but they do have a good price on a plasma cutter :) ), so maybe they are out at the moment. But if they charge shipping, then it's probably starting to get really close to Northern Tool's price of $479 for the new one.


Interesting. They must be out right now or something. I just got mine a couple weeks ago. It might be worth a call to them to see what the deal is. When I got mine, they had a coupon code for free shipping. (I think it was SNOW at the time.) I had to pay sales tax because ToolKing is in Colorado.

[Turtle]

Just got a Hobart 140 on Saturday from Northern. Was looking at either the 187 or the 140 and went to my local Northen store for some hardware, and they had a "Demo Day" going on, a Hobart rep was there and they had 10% off. After talking with the rep he felt the 140 would be fine, and more portable if I need to help a friend out at a different location without 220.

With the 10% off I made the decision then and there which saved me $48 on something I would have purchased soon anyway. Also a co-worker has been happy with the 140 and the reviews at Northern is 193 of 193 would recommend to a friend.

Only used it once so far, and the flux core wire it came with worked well. I will get gas for it eventually.

[WebDog]

So i think i am finally going to order the 140 tomorrow from amazon, I was going to get the 187 but i just cant seem to set aside that amount of cash and i would need about $350 in electrical upgrades (main breaker is 80+ ft away)

[WebDog]

So i got started on the new bumper today and i really like the way the HH 140 welds.

welding 1/4 plates for a new bumper, Going to pick up a gas tank tomorrow for it. Then i gotta make the bumper sides.

I love how easy it is to weld the thick stuff now and even without gas it is pretty clean welds.

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4027/4613112355_d16158fafd_b.jpg

Full frame tie in
http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4030/4613732392_eab913d8df_b.jpg

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4063/4613738402_15b76b827f_b.jpg
http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4050/4613124187_139271d9ba_b.jpg

[praetorian]

Are those welds flux or gas shielded?

[RS Speed]

Looks great for wire feed :) great job so far

[WebDog]

That was flux core, .30.

I just picked up a 50cu ft tank, 8" spool of .30 and a few other small things. Ill see how the gas works tonight when i work on the sides.

[REVROK]

Looks good! I used to rent a Miller 140 when my Lincoln 175HD was on the fritz (it is old and I paid $150 for it) and I really liked it. Since they make the Hobart I assume you will be equally happy.

[WebDog]

Here are some closeup of .30 with shielding gas. I am very pleased with this welder!
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3423/4623187488_3743eee234_b.jpg

Now i just need some tube action.
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3371/4623148638_0dee154cd9_b.jpg

[american_zero]

Those are good looking welds. I'm no pro welder or anything, so I can't comment on the quality, but I'd be proud if those were mine. :)

So even with gas you are getting good penetration on the 1/4"?

[WebDog]

I did most of the 1/4 with the flux core, but i need to pull the bumper off and do some touch up welds.

The biggest thing i noticed is that i needed to use a slower speed on the wire to get the welds looking good.

[tharlanjr]

Hey Webdog, which machine did you end up getting from Amazon?


Hobart "Autoarc"
http://www.amazon.com/Hobart-500550-Welding-Welder-Regulator/dp/B002VECKTM/ref=sr_1_4?ie=UTF8&s=industrial&qid=1274474494&sr=8-4


Hobart "handler"
http://www.amazon.com/Hobart-500500-Handler-115-Volt-Single-Phase/dp/B0002PS7SA/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=hi&qid=1274474646&sr=8-1

Did you get the cart also?

[souske]

Hey Webdog, which machine did you end up getting from Amazon?
Hobart "Autoarc"
http://www.amazon.com/Hobart-500550-Welding-Welder-Regulator/dp/B002VECKTM/ref=sr_1_4?ie=UTF8&s=industrial&qid=1274474494&sr=8-4
Hobart "handler"
http://www.amazon.com/Hobart-500500-Handler-115-Volt-Single-Phase/dp/B0002PS7SA/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=hi&qid=1274474646&sr=8-1
Did you get the cart also?

So i got started on the new bumper today and i really like the way the HH 140 welds.


Guessing HH stands for Hobart Handler:compwork:

[WebDog]

Hey Webdog, which machine did you end up getting from Amazon?


Hobart "Autoarc"
http://www.amazon.com/Hobart-500550-Welding-Welder-Regulator/dp/B002VECKTM/ref=sr_1_4?ie=UTF8&s=industrial&qid=1274474494&sr=8-4


Hobart "handler"
http://www.amazon.com/Hobart-500500-Handler-115-Volt-Single-Phase/dp/B0002PS7SA/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=hi&qid=1274474646&sr=8-1

Did you get the cart also?
It is the Handler, http://www.amazon.com/Hobart-500500-Handler-115-Volt-Single-Phase/dp/B0002PS7SA/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=hi&qid=1274474646&sr=8-1

I did not get a cart and i plan to make one today...