I love the internet

[KarlVP]

I think I love google more, but since it is on the internet, I guess I have to love the internet more.

That is all.

[Ramsey]

Are you just finding free porn or something?

[RichP]

It was less controlled back in the early 90's but then you had to know ftp, telnet, ssh, rlogin, all command line stuff, you needed your server list to know where things were. The most sophisticated app was XRN or Xreadnews and forget windows and OS2, no tcp/ip stack for it till trumpet winsock in 96, shoulda stayed that way IMO. It was all unix baby and all geeks, all the time. I remember when the moz people fired off the first web server and the browser was ascii. Hard to believe it was only like 14 years ago and spammers would be shunned and gone after like nobodys business and email addresses were sacred, not to be trifled with or sent spam. where companies IP blocks were pulled and their internet access removed for violations. Now, anybody with a cell phone can get on...sheesh.

[casm]

It was less controlled back in the early 90's but then you had to know ftp, telnet, ssh, rlogin, all command line stuff, you needed your server list to know where things were.

I remember when our ISP would distribute hosts files every few weeks or so because not everyone ran DNS. Oh, and bang path notation for routing email between UUCP-only sites was fun...

no tcp/ip stack for it till trumpet winsock in 96, shoulda stayed that way IMO.

Yes, "The September That Never Ended". BTW: I believe Trumpet Winsock was pre-'96 - I can remember doing dialup on Windows 3.1 well before 95 came out, so we're looking at the 1992-'93 timeframe on that. Pretty much Trumpet or Shiva Dialer were the only options then, heh.

I believe OS/2 2.11 and up had native TCP/IP support, but don't quote me on that.

It was all unix baby and all geeks, all the time.

Dialing up via SLIP on an Atari ST, a computer for which no browser was then available - but there was telnet and email.

Now, anybody with a cell phone can get on...sheesh.

Yeah, but remember how much the infrastructure sucked back then too - entire countries were connected via dial-on-demand ISDN in some cases. If it weren't for Windows 95 making it dirt-simple for anyone with the IQ of a rock to get online (at least, compared to the hoops you had to jump through before it), we'd never have got the massive improvements that we did.

[muduck18]

[quote=casm]Yes, "The September That Never Ended". BTW: I believe Trumpet Winsock was pre-'96 - I can remember doing dialup on Windows 3.1 well before 95 came out, so we're looking at the 1992-'93 timeframe on that. Pretty much Trumpet or Shiva Dialer were the only options then, heh.[quote]

When I was 12 I successfully connected to the internet... and downloaded "sim city" it was 1.2MB and it took all day.
That was late 1993, don't tell my mom, the internet was the devil (and still is ):party:

[RichP]

Yeah, but remember how much the infrastructure sucked back then too - entire countries were connected via dial-on-demand ISDN in some cases. If it weren't for Windows 95 making it dirt-simple for anyone with the IQ of a rock to get online (at least, compared to the hoops you had to jump through before it), we'd never have got the massive improvements that we did.

The infrastructure worked fine for me :D, bellcore in piscatway was a main hub and bellcore ran a T1 to my house, that was in 90, so I could respond to problems with the ISCP with the RS6000 model 580 with a gig ram and 2 2 gig scisi hard drives in it and a 24 inch HFT monitor they sent to my house. Had to get a rider on my house insurance to cover it. That friggin box kept the living room warm during the winter and almost doubled my electric bill. Those were the days, then I left bellcore and bought a PC, dropped down to a 2400 baud modem and long distance dialup. From then on I knew what a lobatamy felt like... and knew that I would never take another job unless they had at least a t-1.