my "wannabe jeepspeed" grand cherokee build

[grandrunner]

hey guys,im ryan im 21 from southern california. just joined up on here seeing theres more info and build threads on jeepspeeds and prerunners. cant really get any info on the other sites im on(dezert rangers, nagca.com) because no one builds jeeps, or doesnt build grand cherokees. thought id get more help, guidance and advice from from the more experienced xj crowd. ill just continue my build starting here. well anyways enough talk heres my ride:

1995 ZJ ORVIS EDITION. 5.2 V8

mods:
iron rock offroad front 3link long arm upgrade
rubicon express 5.5 xj coil with 1inch coil spacer
jks adjustable rear trac bar and front shock mounts
kevins offroad adj. front trac bar conversion
front to rear swap in rear with 1inch spacer
32 11.50 15 bfg km2's on eagle alloy rims, 2 spare goodyear mtr's
mcneil racing 4in bulge front glass
custom bumper
custom roof rack
limit straps
fox 2.0 x10 non resi front.
14inch resi rear into the cab in a bedcage
crawler ready HD motormounts
driver and passenger twisted stitch suspension seats(still fully adj)
tnt zj unibody stiffeners

ive been building this for a while now and have made great progress and im happy with how its turning out.

future mods include high pinion d30 swap and truss it, t&j upper shock mounts. 2.5x 10 front resis(maybe bypasses one day), cage. otk steering, rear long arms, front and rear unibody plating and the list goes on.

http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b223/dunerocker/014.jpg
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and this is the most recent pic with the 5.5inch front lift longarms and 10in shock. its up on a jack measuring for straps.

http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b223/dunerocker/jeep10.jpg

this will be built on monday, i added the red bars and the spare tires will sit in the outside bars and the shocks will conect to the main hoop.
http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b223/dunerocker/bedcage-1.jpg

and the CR motormountswill be goin in next week aswell


so any help info and suggestions please post up!! thanks

[dwchkypmp20]

looks good my friend

[srimes]

Looks good. What do you think of the iron rock 3 link? How does it handle?

[Ryan93]

looks sweet, what rims are those?

[besthaticouldo]

nice build man. nice to see someone else building a zj.

[grandrunner]

thanks guys. the iro kit is pretty awesome it was very easy install and didnt run into any problems at all and it works perfect with tnt unibody stiffeners. my buddy has the clayton kit on his zj and he was pretty impressed with the overall look and handling of them.

as for handling it is great, you would never know there isnt a passenger side upper arm. ive takin it through whoops at 40+, jumps, bumps mostly prerunning so far, this weekend ill be testing out the crawling abilities at the TDS jeep run in truckhaven.

the wheels are eagle alloys dont know which ones just bought them off some guy and rattle canned em black with a silver lip.

[Ryan93]

the wheels are eagle alloys dont know which ones just bought them off some guy and rattle canned em black with a silver lip.
Awesome, reason I ask is I have some wheels that look exactly the same and have been thinking of painting them black myself, they look good!

[dirtbagXJ2103]

nice jeep, how are those seats?

[grandrunner]

thanks man, they are super comfy! huuuuge difference. only ones ive really sat in besides our rail but i got them for deal to hard to pass up so i got them. very happy with them

[Baja_XJ]

looks good! I usually dont like lights mounted off a roof rack you that actually looks surprisingly good! gives me ideas

[tone]

Is that light bar on the rack fabbed up or just a option on that rack? Looks good! Welcome to Naxja.

[ChaseN]

Nothing to add, except I normally don't like ZJs, but that thing is badass! I'm diggin the wheels especially. Good work my man.

[dirtbagXJ2103]

are they the pros?

[grandrunner]

Is that light bar on the rack fabbed up or just a option on that rack? Looks good! Welcome to Naxja.

the roof rack was custom built. i bought it off a friend. the rack is adjustable with heim joints and folds back and bolts on different mounts when your not using the lights.

ChaseN- dont hate on zjs!!! hahah jk thanks man.

dirbagxj the seats are the twisted stitch APEX model.

[GoSlowGetStuck]

Looks awesome, always cool (but rare) to see a ZJ built up for the faster stuff. I've been looking at the IRO kit for my build, primarily due to price. Good to know it handles well at speed. Do the control arm mounts just use the two stock crossmember bolts and then four more through the pinch seam?

Also you mentioned "front and rear unibody plating," do you know of a source for that or will you be making something custom? I've been looking all over and it seems like XJs have more (and better) options for unibody plates than the ZJs do.

Actually the whole aftermarket seems better for XJs, guess we're supposed to be using our rigs for grocery getting! :D

Nice build!

[grandrunner]

Looks awesome, always cool (but rare) to see a ZJ built up for the faster stuff. I've been looking at the IRO kit for my build, primarily due to price. Good to know it handles well at speed. Do the control arm mounts just use the two stock crossmember bolts and then four more through the pinch seam?

Also you mentioned "front and rear unibody plating," do you know of a source for that or will you be making something custom? I've been looking all over and it seems like XJs have more (and better) options for unibody plates than the ZJs do.

Actually the whole aftermarket seems better for XJs, guess we're supposed to be using our rigs for grocery getting! :D

Nice build!

yes, it bolts to the pinch seam. and uses the stock mounting holes too.

shaffers offrad and temper-mental offroad make the front plates and i think shaffers does the rears too not sure.

but yeah its been a PITA trying to find parts to make this thing the way i want it. very little is available or its custom work haha

[grandrunner]

heres progress on the bedcage. the hoops are 4130 chromoly and the crossbars will be out of DOM. we changes up the idea for the looks of it. still going to have the 2 vertical standing tires, bar in front and back to hold it, and the middle will be dimple die plated shut. it will be finished tomorrow,

http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b223/dunerocker/bedcageee.jpg
http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b223/dunerocker/Mar02_002.jpg

and still waiting for the stupid motor mount bracket.

[DirtBound]

i reallly like the way that looks. looks like if you left it like that you would still have a good amount of cargo space... i wouldnt mind having a similar set-up on my xj...

[Mike1331]

cool build. i've always been curious to see how a 3 link would hold up to speed...does the caster adjuster ever come loose after a hard hit or a run through the whoops? I wonder what a 3 link would do at a 70mph run at some whoops...

[live24wheel]

cool build. i've always been curious to see how a 3 link would hold up to speed...does the caster adjuster ever come loose after a hard hit or a run through the whoops? I wonder what a 3 link would do at a 70mph run at some whoops...

I've got the RK 3 link front and bomb stuff all the time. Im building a 4.7 now because I run out of motor and can't go faster. lol So far it has handled everything really well.

[grandrunner]

the 3 link handles great, bombed it through woops going 50mph and got it up to 75 at the glamis sand drags, no problems with the castor adjustment at all. i always double check it though to make sure everything is tight.

[grandrunner]

also the bedcage was completed today with a different setup than originally planned. and the new motormounts will go in tomorrow, will have new pics of the bedcage complete and painted tomorrow

[tharlanjr]

Hey, just saw you came over here. lol

Awesome ZJ!

[tone]

Looks good. Are you gonna use a shift boot to cover the hole where the shock goes thru or are you over it and just gonna let it ride?

[silverslk]

Looks good. Are you gonna use a shift boot to cover the hole where the shock goes thru or are you over it and just gonna let it ride?


Or a cut up wetsuit?

[grandrunner]

i was thinkin about puttin a shifter boot to cover it. gunna have it out all weekend at tds so well see how much dust gets in. dont really gop muddin either it rains like 3 times a year here haha

and anyone with a broken motormount bracket...i pray you never have to change it. had to remove the track bar mount, airbox and steering column just to get all the bolts off. and goodluck if your doing it alone. took me just over 3 and a half hours jus to put on the bracket and 1 motormount. tomorrow looks promising for the other. haha

[dakineJ]

I dont know if you mentioned it,which engine do you have? The ZJ is looking good man.

[md11fan]

I dont know if you mentioned it,which engine do you have? The ZJ is looking good man.


well anyways enough talk heres my ride:

1995 ZJ ORVIS EDITION. 5.2 V8

[dakineJ]

haha, thanks

[DieselSJ]

i was thinkin about puttin a shifter boot to cover it. gunna have it out all weekend at tds so well see how much dust gets in. dont really gop muddin either it rains like 3 times a year here haha

and anyone with a broken motormount bracket...i pray you never have to change it. had to remove the track bar mount, airbox and steering column just to get all the bolts off. and goodluck if your doing it alone. took me just over 3 and a half hours jus to put on the bracket and 1 motormount. tomorrow looks promising for the other. haha

You should seriously take a look at the mounts from T&J's that reinforce the block side of things too.

[tharlanjr]

T&J makes motor mounts for ZJ's?

Do they make them for the 5.9's?

[DieselSJ]

Oops, forgot you had the V8.

[grandrunner]

yeah its in my original post that im gunna get the t&j upper mounts. they make them for the zj xj and wj. talked to them about it at the offroad expo they just didnt list them on there site. also they have the sliders and frame stiffeneners for the grand. doesnt matter about the engine size for the zj there all the same frame setup for mounting points.


also just got back from the TDS jeeprunn! man what a time!!!! had to show people what a grand could do in the notches at night!!! and also today was a mudfest fun doing endless donuts and playing in the notches and trails.. anyone see me??

[kidarkitect]

you know what the difference between your "wannabe" and my wannabe is. mine really is just a wannabe in comparison.

nice. very nice.

[grandrunner]

you know what the difference between your "wannabe" and my wannabe is. mine really is just a wannabe in comparison.

nice. very nice.


haha thanks alot man!

[tharlanjr]

Got any pics from TDS?

[grandrunner]

naa i wish i did. hopefully some will show up somewhere haha

[grandrunner]

well heres an update. got some poser shots today on an old train loading ramp. i could have gone up about 6-12 more inches before the front and rear were fully drooped out but my back tire kept hitting the bottom of the ramp. im happy. also noticed the top part of mt passenger rear door is bent out :/ wtf??!?!?


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dig the new plates haha

http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b223/dunerocker/008-2.jpg


before and afters up on the jack.


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my door.
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[Ryan93]

Looks sweet, what travel shocks are those?

[grandrunner]

front are 2.0 10inches of travel. just emulsions for now untill i get my 2.5 ressies. and the rear are 2.0 14inches of travel.

[Ryan93]

front are 2.0 10inches of travel. just emulsions for now untill i get my 2.5 ressies. and the rear are 2.0 14inches of travel.
ahh sweet

[grandrunner]

another update, going to pick up a HP DANA30 tomorrow and then ill be gettin this tnt d30 truss kit at the end of the month.

http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b223/dunerocker/D30truss.jpg

[crazyjim]

Who makes that truss?

[GoSlowGetStuck]

Who makes that truss?
tnt d30 truss kit

Been looking at their truss kits, with all the add-ons (control arm mounts, shock mounts, etc.) they are a little pricey but make the job a lot easier. Considering HP30/8.8" in my ZJ since they make the trusses which should make things a lot easier.

[Ryan93]

looks beeefy, I like the relocated trackbar mount too

[grandrunner]

yeah tnt customs make it. it wont be too expensive for me since i only need the driverside uca mount the ironrock 3 link i have only needs the driverside. yeah ill be doing an 8.8 swap too once my d35 goes out.

[grandrunner]

just an update, the tranny went out on me again... good thing its still under warranty, dropped it off friday morning. cut the uca's off and cleaned the new axle so its ready to weld and the truss will be here monday.

http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b223/dunerocker/005-5.jpg

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[grandrunner]

got the axle done last night. it looks awesome!!! cant wait to get it all in. just waiting for the tranny shop to finish still.

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[Mike1331]

looks good man, that seems like a good solid truss for the price. I think i'll go with that one, i just hope it doesn't interfere with my oil pan. does it interfere with your v8pan?

[grandrunner]

i dont know yet, i dont think it will because the highest point on the truss is the uca mount and it never hit with my 5.5in lift. on the stock mount.

[Cache96]

That Zj doesnt work... hahaha whats up Ryan, ZJ is looking sweet! how much did you get that HP30 for?

[grandrunner]

whats up man!!!...got it for 100bucks off a guy that races jeepspeed, he bought a new cherokee to build and took it out to swap in a 44.

when are we going to glamis!!! seasons almost done! hah

[Cache96]

oh oright.. nice deal, i have been looking for one but they are all around 200-250.. this friday im going to the JY hopefully i can make a deal with the guy..lol....i just got my trans rebuilt and put a shift kit in it, also installed my 242. so its getting there little by little..

[grandrunner]

hit up this guy on here hes sellin one for like 150 i think..

http://naxja.org/forum/member.php?u=26111

[Cache96]

yea ill send him a pm... when are you coming over here again?

[grandrunner]

haha i have no idea. i wanna go soon before it gets hot. maybe a week or 2? or the end of the month.

you have the iro otk steering?

[Cache96]

oh ok... give me a call if you come.. we can go out to glamis or close to glamis... my jeep finally works now..haha... yea i've had it for about 6 months now or more... works great alot stronger and no need for a steering stabilizer.

[grandrunner]

for sure. nice thats whats next on my list. been lookin at the otk for a while but now i need it with my new truss.

[silverslk]

oh oright.. nice deal, i have been looking for one but they are all around 200-250.. this friday im going to the JY hopefully i can make a deal with the guy..lol....i just got my trans rebuilt and put a shift kit in it, also installed my 242. so its getting there little by little..

http://inlandempire.craigslist.org/pts/1668003690.html

[Mike L]

http://inlandempire.craigslist.org/pts/1668003690.html

87 should be vacuum disco. The vacuum part can be removed and bypassed but it is better to get non-disco in the first place. :thumbup:

[silverslk]

87 should be vacuum disco. The vacuum part can be removed and bypassed but it is better to get non-disco in the first place. :thumbup:

Not if it had a 242.

My buddy had a non-disco HP30 in his 1987 Wagoneer with a D44 out back. :cheers:

[Mike L]

Not if it had a 242.

My buddy had a non-disco HP30 in his 1987 Wagoneer with a D44 out back. :cheers:

LOL, but he didn't say it had a 242 in it. Better :callme: the guy to find out and report back. :D

BTW, I just noticed it came out of an 87 YJ, did any of those have a 242 or were all 231? :dunce: I know they don't have coil buckets or LCA/UCA mounts. :laugh3:

[silverslk]

LOL, but he didn't say it had a 242 in it. Better :callme: the guy to find out and report back. :D

BTW, I just noticed it came out of an 87 YJ, did any of those have a 242 or were all 231? :dunce: I know they don't have coil buckets or LCA/UCA mounts. :laugh3:

haha YJ. Didn't even notice/think about that. hahaha

[tbburg]

All the YJs are disco. All except the last year had 260 U-joints.

[grandrunner]

yeah dont forget non disco. haha also the stock axle shafts and cv's from the grand cherokee will work in the hp30 so keep them for spares!

[justin_502]

wanna see vid on the whoops

[grandrunner]

ill have to get some vid when i go to glamis, hopefully next weekend or ill go hit up some local ones.

[tone]

Wanna go test mon. tues. or wed? I need to get out of the house!

[grandrunner]

im good probably monday. i just forgot about my axle being broken haha hope the weld doesnt break.. can u stealth bombb through the desert? hahaha cuz they patrol it but cant catch me. well shoot some video too. ill let u know tomorrow.

[CherBear]

im good probably monday. i just forgot about my axle being broken haha hope the weld doesnt break.. can u stealth bombb through the desert? hahaha cuz they patrol it but cant catch me. well shoot some video too. ill let u know tomorrow.

This sounds dangerous and illegal. I like it.

[tone]

Oh I can stealth bomb through anything :) gonna try to change my water pump in the am.

[scottmcneal]

This sounds dangerous and illegal. I like it.


It isn't..As long as they stay on the roads..Now if he was on a OHV!:explosion

[Cache96]

BLM was out hard this weekend.. if you are off the trails they dont like it..hahaha.. i got stopped twice, i blew my rear shocks while going about 40 on the whoops :D... oh well they were only cheap pro comps anyways... now to start on my bed cage.. so when you guys coming?

[grandrunner]

if i get my axle in hopefully this weekend or next??? dont know haha definately before the end of the month tho. still have to figure out how to rig my steering untill i get the otk kit. probably gunna weld some tabs to put the stabilizer for now.

[Cache96]

did you make the 5* bend on the tie rod? or is there something else wrong with it?

[grandrunner]

no i didnt have to bend mine it all works fine, its just the truss uses a different mounting bracket for the trac bar. so i had to cut out the stock steering and stabilizer bracket. hopefully ill be gettin my otk steering ordered on friday.

[Cache96]

have you checked the ballastic fab heim steering? it looks pretty good.

[grandrunner]

link??? it has to be otk though. thats how my truss is set up.

[Cache96]

oh ok.. nevermind.. its not OTK

[crazyjim]

It can be OTK, it's just a matter of how you want to set it up. If you wanted to make it OTK, and run it like an inverted T setup, all you'd have to do is weld some tabs (reinforced of course) to the tie rod and connect the drag link to it. I know there's some pictures floating around in this section somewhere...

[crazyjim]

Best picture I can find for now:

http://www.angelfire.com/wv2/tech/steering.jpg

[crazyjim]

http://photos-a.ak.fbcdn.net/photos-ak-snc1/v1970/141/106/543005419/n543005419_2423489_4014.jpg

http://photos-d.ak.fbcdn.net/photos-ak-snc1/v1970/141/106/543005419/n543005419_2423491_4568.jpg


Of course keep in mind, with this style steering, you're going to experience the infamous "Tie Rod Roll" that JCR customers complain about, because you're essentially building the same style steering with heims instead of TRE's.

Your other option is to go the route I'll be going and get the BTF D30 high steer bracket. Puts both the tie rod and drag link in double sheer.

http://bluetorchfab.com/store/images/yj5.jpg

150 bones.

[tharlanjr]

Damn, that looks badass!

150 doesn't sound too bad, is that just the bracket, or do the heims come with it?

[crazyjim]

That's just for the bracket. The heims would come wtih your ballistic kit.

[grandrunner]

dam that is nice, it will be well over what i want to spend in the end though haha

[DieselSJ]

http://photos-a.ak.fbcdn.net/photos-ak-snc1/v1970/141/106/543005419/n543005419_2423489_4014.jpg

Your other option is to go the route I'll be going and get the BTF D30 high steer bracket. Puts both the tie rod and drag link in double sheer.

http://bluetorchfab.com/store/images/yj5.jpg

150 bones.

Double sheer >>>>>>>>>>>> single sheer

That single sheer setup on that pitman arm just scares the bejeesus out of me.

[grandrunner]

bad news, my iron rock arms dont fit on my new truss. so im sellin the iron rock kit, long arms, crossmember and hardware, 500bucks if anyone is interested. posted in the for sale section too.

[Cache96]

really? what doesnt fit?

[grandrunner]

since its fixed and the new truss has the uca mount raised on the pumpkin it doesnt reach. so im sellin it to get an adj. kit. probably clayton. know anyone witha grand cherokee?

[Cache96]

ahh that is true... post it on jeepforum i bet you will sell it quick.

[grandrunner]

post it for me.! just add my email haha

[Cache96]

posted them up, send me your email and # to ganglin@iid.com

i had saved your number but i cant find it anymore..haha

[grandrunner]

sent

[Cache96]

You should sell that truss and make a custom lower axle truss... much stronger and you can still use those IRO arms. :D
Just a thought!

[grandrunner]

i thought about it. but im already 700 bucks deep into that axle. and no ones gunna care if its new and just regeared. cuz some have different gears and still need to do my gussetts on it too.. haha if i cant sell the iro kit. ill have to modify the arm which will be another 200 bucks to hack it redo the arm and make a new gusset.

[Cache96]

yea thats true...well it might be cheaper to hack the IRO arms then paying for other arms.

[grandrunner]

yeah im still debating on what to do if they dont sell by next week ill prob jus hack em myself n make it work haha. i dont have the fab skills but i have an idea of what needs to be done. i got someone who can do it for me. just want that to be last resort though.

[tharlanjr]

Chit dude, if this had happened a month ago I would have gotten them no questions, but I all ready got my extra moneys going else where this month, lol.

[grandrunner]

sold my arms. ill be ordering my clayton front long arms hopefully thurday or friday!!! then just need a couple gussetts on the axle and im good to go!

[Cache96]

Nice... so we can go out to glamis already.hahahaha

[grandrunner]

yeah! finally haha still have a small amount of work to do then im good to go. may have to do a night run by the time my @$$ is ready haha have to gusset the c's and putting shock mounts lower on the axle forr more uptravel.

[grandrunner]

ok finally an update. got the new axle in and u joints instead of the cv's. and also got my new clayton 4link long arms that will be ran as a 3link until i make the passenger side upper mount. still need to install the driveshaft and get the trac bar cut down a few inches and is set for new steering that will come at the end of the month. pics.

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[Cache96]

looks good!!! you think you will have it ready for memorial day? we are heading out to golfo de santa clara over by rocky point ( but not as far) if you want to go. its like the mexican glamis..hahhaa.. but everyone camps out by the beach and there is this big hill everyone races on

[grandrunner]

im hoping to have the steering at least ordered by the 25th. so i doubt it will be ready. im gettin the trac bar done today hopefully and puttin the driveshaft in too.

[grandrunner]

huuuge update:

got the knckles reemed and steering put on, the new long arms adjusted and positioned the axle, then it was off to shop#2 for c gussets, the other link so can connect the 4link, and maybe notch the crossmember if the driveshaft rubs. also the shock mounting points will be lowered about an inch. hopefully get to take it out during the week and on the weekend. pics to follow hopefully tonight.

[scottmcneal]

Does your drive line clear? From the pics it looks like it hits the cross member? Could be just me

[grandrunner]

it did but i pushed the axle forward and adjusted everything it doesnt hit now but well see tomorrow when its up on the lift if it hits.

[grandrunner]

pics of the updates.

front and rear c gussetts. and lowered shock mounts.
http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b223/dunerocker/006-6.jpg
http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b223/dunerocker/005-7.jpg

4th upper arm link added on the axle truss.
http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b223/dunerocker/008-4.jpg

and .250 wall dom otk steering.
http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b223/dunerocker/007-6.jpg

[SleeperXJ]

Nice beads. Did you need to pre-heat the c's?

[grandrunner]

i dont know, my uncle did the fab work for me while i was out of town. but most poeple do so i would assume he did.

[XJLI]

coming along nicely dude! i'm a fan.

[GrimmJeeper]

your inspection cover plate is missing from your trans, I wouldn't drive it for very long like that. a rock getting kicked up in there while that flywheel is turning would get thrown right through the side of the transmission.

[grandrunner]

yeah i noticed that. dam. tranny shops always eff you over.

[tharlanjr]

oh damn, that could make your day bad fast...

Your ZJ is looking awesome!

[Cache96]

Looking good, did you make that steering or did you order it? what are you going to do with your rear?

[grandrunner]

i ordered the steering. it was like 280bucks. for the rear i thik im going to wait untill i cage it, had a shock mount break(not the new ones) and the coil shot off and the jeep fell to one side through the whoops. scared the bajeezus outta me. then i was imagining if my tire woulda came off it wouldnt have been pretty.

[dirtbagXJ2103]

you dont have to preheat the outer Cs. looking good tho, wish i had a v8 i just get v8 mpg

[grandrunner]

update: just got my deaver coils installed today! man what a difference! also got my fox air bumps 2.5 stroke. just need to figure out how and who is going to install them for me now

[scottmcneal]

Man this thing is going to haul the mail..Nice set up..Now don't forget that all old parts come to my place ...LOL.

[grandrunner]

alright update pics.
deaver coils, fox bumps. and how she sits now.

http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b223/dunerocker/032-3.jpg
http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b223/dunerocker/030-5.jpg
http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b223/dunerocker/031-3.jpg

[Ryan93]

looks bitchen, how does that steering hold up in the desert?

[grandrunner]

pretty good so far haha havent had any problems it feels nice too. when this goes out im switching to heim steering

[scottmcneal]

Looks great..You still need to put rails on her..

[tone]

Looks good Ryan when I get my leafs on we need to go on a beat run fosho!

[ratboy93]

alright update pics.
deaver coils, fox bumps. and how she sits now.

http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b223/dunerocker/032-3.jpg
http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b223/dunerocker/030-5.jpg
http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b223/dunerocker/031-3.jpg



i dont think that limit starp is goin to work very well :spin1:

[Cache96]

Looks good!!!! The springs raised it up a bit... do you have pics on how your front bumper is installed? does it go through the rails?
Its almost time for glamis :D

My friend does powder coating cheap if your interested, i see your rims are peeling hahah...
He does real good work he did the rims on my truck..
heres a pic of the rim..
http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c372/cache85/IMG00113-20100228-12301.jpg
http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c372/cache85/F250side.jpg

[grandrunner]

tone im ready when you are!

ratboy haha i know i havent found a new spot to connect them yet, with the new steering i had to cut off the sway bar links on the axle.

cache yeah i was thinkin about just getting the outside of them painted so its cheaper haha ill let you know when im ready. when ur lookin at the bumper and there is those two little oval slits in the bumper. and theres two little black things pointing out. i took those off, cut the holes bigger and have metal plating coming out of it now. let me see if i can dig up some pics or ill take some later.

[Cache96]

tone im ready when you are!

ratboy haha i know i havent found a new spot to connect them yet, with the new steering i had to cut off the sway bar links on the axle.

cache yeah i was thinkin about just getting the outside of them painted so its cheaper haha ill let you know when im ready. when ur lookin at the bumper and there is those two little oval slits in the bumper. and theres two little black things pointing out. i took those off, cut the holes bigger and have metal plating coming out of it now. let me see if i can dig up some pics or ill take some later.


haha let me know im talking cheap like less then 100 for all 4.

[grandrunner]

Wow that is cheap Haha maybe at the end od the month when I have some exitra cash

[Cache96]

How do you like the limit straps there instead of the sway bar/links?

[tone]

I don't believe he has them hooked up yet...

[grandrunner]

yeah i dont have them hooked up yet. i had to cut the sway bar links off of the axle because of the otk steering. so i have to find a new place to mount them. if you still have yours you can connect them there it works fine. ive had it like that for about 2years.

[cordon00]

nice!!!

[grandrunner]

thought id update my build again.
bumps are in. and just got new coils for the rear to bring the back up.

http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b223/dunerocker/IMAG0017.jpg
http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b223/dunerocker/IMAG0018.jpg

vids.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HNZZUUMEjzg
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=od5rOqjmP0s&feature=related

[Cache96]

Are those bumps the 4" travel taken down to 2.5"?

[grandrunner]

nope just 2.5, alot of the jeepspeed guys will tell u to go with the 2.5's cuz the 4's might rub the coils. n honestlt with bypasses they work verrryyyyy well.



might as well update too lol i got bypasses and 33's
http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b223/dunerocker/IMAG0220.jpg
http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b223/dunerocker/181651_196052527091579_100000605003938_639749_7728 555_n.jpg

[Mike1331]

Any updates? Are the rear arms stock? Can you get a close up of how you mounted the bumper? I should be picking up a 5.9 this weekend...and then the transformation begins.

[GrimmJeeper]

I'm almost positive this rig got parted out and sold months ago.

[Mike1331]

yeah i was just looking on jeepspeed...

http://www.jeepspeed.net/smf/index.php?topic=4568.0

to bad this thing was cool.

950 seems like a reasonable price for the shell considering what's been done to it.

[tone]

everything is gone, all he has left are the coils...

[slappomatt]

so where is the new ride? does he have a thread on the new build anywhere?
a good friend and my brother are both looking at building go fast zj's. Buddy just bought a 98 5.9 zj and is planning to do the iron rock long arm kit with fox's as well.

[tone]

New ride = dodge charger w/ hemi

[slappomatt]

oh bummer. I wanted to ask him how he liked the Iron rock 3 link setup as I am looking at getting one for my xj prerunner and a buddy is going to buy 1 or 2 for his zj prerunners. I was mostly wondering how that weird upper bracket thing held up to the abuse.

[grandrunner]

i got rid of the shell for 300 -___-

[Cache96]

I have the Iron rock long arms in front of my ZJ and it has taken everything i throw at it... very good system.. if you do get it make sure to get the adjustable version.

[scottmcneal]

so where is the new ride?

He got a girlfriend, so thats the end of this part of his life.He now owns a 4 door street car that she wanted and he make the payments on.:bawl:.Next thing we'll know is, he'll be getting married and she'll have his nuts in her dresser drawer at home..
We lost a jeeper to that otherside again.Let us pray for him.LOL.:laugh:

[Mike1331]

He got a girlfriend, so thats the end of this part of his life.He now owns a 4 door street car that she wanted and he make the payments on.:bawl:.Next thing we'll know is, he'll be getting married and she'll have his nuts in her dresser drawer at home..
We lost a jeeper to that otherside again.Let us pray for him.LOL.:laugh:

That's tragic, I hate hearing these stories.

I just traded up my 4 door sedan for a ducati, yep, i'll take singlehood for a few more years...

[slappomatt]

I know the story well. I am living it. Although I got my Xj after I got married. I get to take my nuts for a walk once in a while. even if she doesn't like it.

[crazyjim]

Man, you guys are f*ckin' up! You gotta find a girl who LOVES what you do. Mine does, she's beautiful, understanding, loves shooting, loves offroading, loves going FAST. She's definitely a keeper :D

[grandrunner]

COME'ON SCOTT YOUR BUSTIN MY BALLZ!!!

ACTUALLY... my gf was as sad as i was when i got rid of it cuz she helped pay for some parts and liked goin out.

she didnt want me to get my new car cuz she said it was too expensive
AND i dont let her drive it hahaha marriage is not in the plans soon nither is a kid. and i didnt just get a gf weve been together for 5 yrs hahaha




but ill let u in on a little secret....




















been lookin up prices for another zj on craigslist. dont count me out too quick:spin1:





but heres the new ride for now. not just any 4door car lol

http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b223/dunerocker/IMAG0345.jpg
http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b223/dunerocker/IMAG0347.jpg

[Mike1331]

those are what all the cops drive around these parts, are you training to be a fuzz unit?

grand was cooler, and more unique.

[tone]

Sad thing is that car is slow, he pulled up next to me at a light one day and I blew the doors off his ride... Here's the kicker, I was in THE JEEP!

[grandrunner]

Hahahaha riiiiight lol. It's all good ill have a jeep again.

[1ABrian]

Man I just joined here and read the entire build. This is awsome. Fantastic job man!!!