MikeESoc2
NAXJA Forum User
- Location
- Staten Island, NY
Long explanation with all the details ... perhaps a simple situation ??:
Daily-driver '87XJ Limited 4.0L in very good mechanical condition with auto-trans and A/C with ~ 313K miles (but A/C has not blown cold air for ~ last 2 years and I have not fixed it since it does not bother me) ...
... used in NY/NJ area... currently in the cold-weather situation over the past few weeks...
... changed the lead-acid battery ~ mid-December last month (I have changed the GRP 58 battery every 4 to 5 years since I owned the vehicle)...
... since Dec 2009 battery change the odd behavior is after warming-up on the highway (regardless cold weather AND coolant temp is NOT overheating) the aux fan comes on and does not shut-off...
... first I thought it was the aux-fan relay (which was ~ 3 years old) so I changed the relay last week but aux fan still stays on (after warming up on the highway) ...
... today the aux fan stayed on even after I turned-off the ignition key (what is that about ???) so with the fan running and the ignition switch off I pulled the relay (the fan stopped, of course) and then immediately re-inserted the relay and the fan did not run !!! ??? ...
... I have owned and driven the vehicle as a daily-driver since Sept '97 over the past ~ 200K miles and it is very reliable (with my weekend fix-it projects) ... I changed the radiator twice since I've owned it (first to a 3-row and ~ year and half ago to a 2-row)... when I had first changed it to a 3-row I had also bought and installed a new temp-sensor for the radiator (input to the aux fan relay) and then re-used the temp-sensor into the 2-row ....the Bosch water-pump has ~ 72K milles on it (probably due for a change before next Summer) and there is no coolant leaks anywhere... also, since it's Renix, I have made sure that there is currently no "air pocket" in the cooling system... but yes, the serpentine belt has ~ 80K miles on it (I should have replaced that last Fall 2009)...
... from what I read from this link (found via another post)
http://www.lunghd.com/Tech_Articles/Cooling/Electric_Fan_Diagnosis.htm
it is either the A/C (which I am NOT using) or the radiator's temp-sensor that provides the closed-circuit into the aux fan relay... but the diagram looks like the ignition switch needs to be in the on-position to complete the circuit into the relay and over the past summers when the aux fan was on (due to summer heat) the aux fan would then immediately shut off as soon as I turned-off the ignition switch ...
... but today when the aux fan continued to run after I shut-off the ignition switch... that thru me a curve ball (I sort of laughed a little bit)...
... any ideas and especially any prior experience with a similar situation would be appreciated...
thank you.
Daily-driver '87XJ Limited 4.0L in very good mechanical condition with auto-trans and A/C with ~ 313K miles (but A/C has not blown cold air for ~ last 2 years and I have not fixed it since it does not bother me) ...
... used in NY/NJ area... currently in the cold-weather situation over the past few weeks...
... changed the lead-acid battery ~ mid-December last month (I have changed the GRP 58 battery every 4 to 5 years since I owned the vehicle)...
... since Dec 2009 battery change the odd behavior is after warming-up on the highway (regardless cold weather AND coolant temp is NOT overheating) the aux fan comes on and does not shut-off...
... first I thought it was the aux-fan relay (which was ~ 3 years old) so I changed the relay last week but aux fan still stays on (after warming up on the highway) ...
... today the aux fan stayed on even after I turned-off the ignition key (what is that about ???) so with the fan running and the ignition switch off I pulled the relay (the fan stopped, of course) and then immediately re-inserted the relay and the fan did not run !!! ??? ...
... I have owned and driven the vehicle as a daily-driver since Sept '97 over the past ~ 200K miles and it is very reliable (with my weekend fix-it projects) ... I changed the radiator twice since I've owned it (first to a 3-row and ~ year and half ago to a 2-row)... when I had first changed it to a 3-row I had also bought and installed a new temp-sensor for the radiator (input to the aux fan relay) and then re-used the temp-sensor into the 2-row ....the Bosch water-pump has ~ 72K milles on it (probably due for a change before next Summer) and there is no coolant leaks anywhere... also, since it's Renix, I have made sure that there is currently no "air pocket" in the cooling system... but yes, the serpentine belt has ~ 80K miles on it (I should have replaced that last Fall 2009)...
... from what I read from this link (found via another post)
http://www.lunghd.com/Tech_Articles/Cooling/Electric_Fan_Diagnosis.htm
it is either the A/C (which I am NOT using) or the radiator's temp-sensor that provides the closed-circuit into the aux fan relay... but the diagram looks like the ignition switch needs to be in the on-position to complete the circuit into the relay and over the past summers when the aux fan was on (due to summer heat) the aux fan would then immediately shut off as soon as I turned-off the ignition switch ...
... but today when the aux fan continued to run after I shut-off the ignition switch... that thru me a curve ball (I sort of laughed a little bit)...
... any ideas and especially any prior experience with a similar situation would be appreciated...
thank you.