Gearing up for WinterFest

[CherBear]

Well I really am planning on going to WF this year. And I am sort of a noob in all ways, especially these NAXJA events. So I thought I would ask a few questions.

Im sure this has probably been covered else where, but searching didnt give me definitive results.

Firstly, I understand you need front and rear attachment points. I have the front covered with an aftermarket bumper. The rear however has no attachment points. My solution is to get a towing hitch and put a D-ring mount in it.
Is this good enough?

Also, A fire extinguisher. Working on that too. Do you guys have specific mounts for them or just let have a place for them among your other stuff?

Lastly how much money do you guys spend at this. Including everything such as entry cost, food, gas ect?

[bmyohn]

as for the D-ring attachment, that works just fine. i have one on mine and its worked fine and is acceptable

[philagony94xj]

You seem to have the front recovery point taken care of.

As for the rear a hitch with a d-ring reciever is what i run as well. Perfectly ok.

If you go to Lowes, they have fire extinguishers with small mounts included. Check it out.

As for price; regular $20 entry into the park, WF registry fee ,gas there and back, pack a lunch with snacks, dinner is at the vfw and included in your entry fee i believe so no charge there.

So when all is said and done, about $100. Thats what I spent last year.

[FlexdXJ]

Well I really am planning on going to WF this year. And I am sort of a noob in all ways, especially these NAXJA events. So I thought I would ask a few questions.

Im sure this has probably been covered else where, but searching didnt give me definitive results.

Firstly, I understand you need front and rear attachment points. I have the front covered with an aftermarket bumper. The rear however has no attachment points. My solution is to get a towing hitch and put a D-ring mount in it.
Is this good enough?

Also, A fire extinguisher. Working on that too. Do you guys have specific mounts for them or just let have a place for them among your other stuff?

Lastly how much money do you guys spend at this. Including everything such as entry cost, food, gas ect?

Hitch w/ a d-ring is perfect. I had my extinguisher mounted in the back on my old rig. I will probably mount it closer to the driver seat this time. Depending on what you want to spend. Its 20 to get in I think its 30 for registration . There is a dinner at a local place called Robie's on thursday night and a Potluck dinner Friday. Also, You get a meal ticket for a catered dinner on saturday night. That is where the raffle takes place and its worth it if you go to that. Remember there is also a swap meet so If you need parts or have some to trade post them up in the swap meet thread. Also, If you become a member you won't get picked on as much! :D

[CherBear]

Things to do before WF:

D-ring in the rear

Fire extinguisher

Going red??

[FlexdXJ]

Things to do before WF:

D-ring in the rear- 35 bucks

Fire extinguisher-12 bucks

Going red??-35 bucks


:D there ya go!

[RedHeep]

Make sure you can get to your extinguisher. It might not be you on fire, but it always takes more than one of those small extiguishers to put out someone else's electrical fire. The more people that come running, the better chance we have of saving someone's ride.

[XJ Stryker]

No one gave him the super secret WF oh-ten link

Well I will give it to you You will find all your WF info here

http://www.naxja.org/forum/forumdisplay.php?f=237

[vincepru]

Make sure you can get to your extinguisher. It might not be you on fire, but it always takes more than one of those small extiguishers to put out someone else's electrical fire. The more people that come running, the better chance we have of saving someone's ride.

why not just pack a big one hasta

[Rev Den]

About your front bumper....

It must have hooks, or suitable attachment points for shackle, or strap.

Rev

[RedHeep]

why not just pack a big one hasta

Because I'm in a Jeep, not a warehouse.

Ever see a really cool car fire, something that started under the hood?
I don't care how big your extinguisher is, after about 5 minutes you're screwed anyway. At least if all 6 or 8 vehicles in your group have one, you've got a fighting chance to put it out and save what's left.

[FlexdXJ]

Because I'm in a Jeep, not a warehouse.

Ever see a really cool car fire, something that started under the hood?
I don't care how big your extinguisher is, after about 5 minutes you're screwed anyway. At least if all 6 or 8 vehicles in your group have one, you've got a fighting chance to put it out and save what's left.

Yeah I've seen what happens when you have an engine fire. It ain't purty!

[RedHeep]

Flexd, have we met? Were you in Moab?

[vincepru]

Because I'm in a Jeep, not a warehouse.

Ever see a really cool car fire, something that started under the hood?
I don't care how big your extinguisher is, after about 5 minutes you're screwed anyway. At least if all 6 or 8 vehicles in your group have one, you've got a fighting chance to put it out and save what's left.

never seen a jeep, but i did see a dsm completely burn to the ground at the subaru vs dsm shootout a few years ago. probably one of the coolest things i have witnessed. sucked big time for the guy though. i also have seen a lamborghini go up in flames.

and i personally have gotten a range rover sport supercharged stuck in the mud, then it went up in flames for a short amount of time, no real damage was done to that though, just some grass caught fire leading to more grass on fire.

[CherBear]

Ok so in all seriousness, how many of the trails will I be able to go on?

I am running open/open on 235s ATs, stock suspension. Id say I have a moderate amount of wheeling experience, I just don't know what to expect at WF.

Also, If you guys dont think Id be able to get anywhere around this place (with out significant damage, I know how you mwc guys are LOL) , what are the chances I could ride along with people who own more capable rigs?

[Rev Den]

You will be fine, and have fun.

Rev

[IllianaXJ]

Yep. Every year we have stock rigs show up and they always have a great time. If you decide you want to ride on a harder trail, just ask. Somebody will have an open seat.

[macgyvr]

Ok so in all seriousness, how many of the trails will I be able to go on?

I am running open/open on 235s ATs, stock suspension. Id say I have a moderate amount of wheeling experience, I just don't know what to expect at WF.

Also, If you guys dont think Id be able to get anywhere around this place (with out significant damage, I know how you mwc guys are LOL) , what are the chances I could ride along with people who own more capable rigs?

i would reccommend rock rails if you can afford...that will allow to try more fun stuff...if you can't, you'll still have fun...

mac 'rocker knocker' gyvr

[CherBear]

i would reccommend rock rails if you can afford...that will allow to try more fun stuff...if you can't, you'll still have fun...

mac 'rocker knocker' gyvr

Im developing quite a WF wish list...

Anybody is welcome to PM me if they have rock rails, a hitch, a d ring mount, a fire extinguisher ect for sale.

How about recovery straps?

I have one non elastic tow strap (30ft, no metal ends) That I always carry. I figure you guys have lots of those regardless right?

EDIT: Dang rock rails are expensive... Probably not going to happen anytime soon on this budget.

[vincepru]

^i got my hitch from my local napa they hooked me up with a "frequent shoppers discount" haha i was short a few bucks so they knocked off 25% for me. its a valley hitch, i liked it better than the hidden hitch because it kind of protects my stock bumper from getting ripped off and somewhat protects my gas tank. and i just went to my local harbor freight/ tractor supply place and got a rear hook mount for the hitch for 13 bucks. 2 20ft straps and one 30 ft strap. the hitch cost me around 130 bucks or something. so far it has worked well.

fire extinguisher you can get at alot of places, i think even sears or home depot have them, i know ive seen them at target.

[BOB]

we do are best to get you through or around many obstacles without damage. One of the most overlooked items is to do simple maintenance
like cleaning your battery posts, fresh oil,plugs, stuff like that.

BOB

[CherBear]

How about CB radios?

I hear a lot, if not most, of the guys use them at WF. Is this true? I have a handheld CB if that is that case...

[IllianaXJ]

A CB is strongly recommended, but not required. It makes communication on the trail 100x easier.

[HaleYes]

A CB is strongly recommended, but not required. It makes communication on the trail 100x easier.


X2

I really think it should be a requirement and not just a "strong suggestion".
What really stinks is, that it's usually the new guys that don't have one........and they're the ones that need it the most.

[89eliminator]

x3

its usually key to keep folks without CBs in the middle of the pack in case something happens, but there are times where they end up in back and you have no communication with them if they get into trouble.

[CherBear]

x3

its usually key to keep folks without CBs in the middle of the pack in case something happens, but there are times where they end up in back and you have no communication with them if they get into trouble.

Okay I will bring the CB then.

I am glad I asked all these questions, I would have been lost with out them.

Thanks everybody for your input.

[HaleYes]

I'm moving this thread to the WF fourm.............

[CherBear]

Maybe some one should compile this information into a "Noob's Guide To WinterFest"?

I read the minimum requirements thread, but a lot of this information wasnt covered in there.

[IllianaXJ]

Noobs get to figure it out the hard way the 1st year :D

[99SJ_Ex]

Noobs get to figure it out the hard way the 1st year :D

Rule #1 - Don't bring about 300lbs of tools with in the back of your Creep (Unless you have a trailer or tow rig...)

Rule #2 - Bring something for the Pass around to keep the vets happy...

Rule #3 - Get used to drinking Bourbon and other 'warm' drinks... (Saturday night, of course)

Rule #4 - If you plan on sleeping in your Creep, pack plenty of aspirin...

Those are what I found out after last year... :doh:

tEx

[CherBear]

Rule #2 - Bring something for the Pass around to keep the vets happy...







This sounds illegal in some way... :cheers:

[99SJ_Ex]

This sounds illegal in some way... :cheers:

It does doesn't it... :eyes: haha...

Rule #2 - Bring some food for the Pass around to keep the vets happy...

That's better... :)

tEx

[CherBear]

It does doesn't it... :eyes: haha...

Rule #2 - Bring some food for the Pass around to keep the vets happy...

That's better... :)

tEx

Ill will bring something that gives everyone gas. So when they sleep in the tent... :party:

Refried beans, here we come!!

[Jeeperrick]

These are around $35.00 at the Red Cross and have almost everything you can think of in them for Bio Hazard handling, bandages, and a CPR barrier. I add pain medication, a small scissors, lotion, and due to my peanut allergy,an EpiPen and I'm good to go! I'm very well connected to our local Red Cross Chapter and could possibly arrange a group buy, or a group CPR training if there is interest.

[macgyvr]

Rule #2 - Bring something for the Pass around to keep the vets happy...


This is very important as I was a little disappointed in what was brought to pass around...this is referring to a bottle of your favorite hard liquor to pass...

1/5 is acceptable...1.75's are better...i already have my 1.75 bottle...and its an expensive one this year :)

granted i know for some they don't have the $$ to do this, but others do and don't...you know who you are...

mac 'this is the 10th anniversary...live it up' gyvr

[FlexdXJ]

This is very important as I was a little disappointed in what was brought to pass around...this is referring to a bottle of your favorite hard liquor to pass...

1/5 is acceptable...1.75's are better...i already have my 1.75 bottle...and its an expensive one this year :)

granted i know for some they don't have the $$ to do this, but others do and don't...you know who you are...

mac 'this is the 10th anniversary...live it up' gyvr

I don't like you guys enough to buy you alcohol......... I mean........ I don't drink so I ain't bringing any alcohol unless I am trading it for Jeep parts! :D

[XJ&CHZ4ME]

These are around $35.00 at the Red Cross and have almost everything you can think of in them for Bio Hazard handling, bandages, and a CPR barrier. I add pain medication, a small scissors, lotion, and due to my peanut allergy,an EpiPen and I'm good to go! I'm very well connected to our local Red Cross Chapter and could possibly arrange a group buy, or a group CPR training if there is interest.

It puts the lotion on.....:D

This is very important as I was a little disappointed in what was brought to pass around...this is referring to a bottle of your favorite hard liquor to pass...

1/5 is acceptable...1.75's are better...i already have my 1.75 bottle...and its an expensive one this year :)

granted i know for some they don't have the $$ to do this, but others do and don't...you know who you are...

mac 'this is the 10th anniversary...live it up' gyvr

I have already been thinking on how to mix a 5# sack of cheese with some booze :D In all honesty, I will be packing some "heat" this year..not sure exactly what, but something that wifey will take a few sips of :cheers:

[FlexdXJ]

It puts the lotion on.....:D



I have already been thinking on how to mix a 5# sack of cheese with some booze :D In all honesty, I will be packing some "heat" this year..not sure exactly what, but something that wifey will take a few sips of :cheers:

Awwww, he's bringing the hard alcohol.......Cinnamon Schnapps! :D

[85xjwoody]

I tried passing around my 1.75 bottle I brought, but nobody seems to like Jose to much:D I will bring something different.

[XJ&CHZ4ME]

me and Jose dont mix...I will openly admit that I skipped on those rounds! :D

Also a note to the new guys...during the bottle pass..if you have a cold sore, dont stand or sit next to me :gee:

[vincepru]

me and Jose dont mix...I will openly admit that I skipped on those rounds! :D

Also a note to the new guys...during the bottle pass..if you have a cold sore, dont stand or sit next to me :gee:

im with ya on that, my girl loves jose idk how she does it. if im going to drink tequila im sticking to patron.

and with cold sores, bring a cup to pour it into lol.

[99SJ_Ex]

mmmmm Patrone... Thats right up there with Sigle Barrel Jack in my book...

[85xjwoody]

mmmmm Patrone... Thats right up there with Sigle Barrel Jack in my book...

I was seriously thinking Patrone but that is pretty pricey. If funds are available I will be getting this. Works good to keep ya warm.:D

[99SJ_Ex]

I was seriously thinking Patrone but that is pretty pricey. If funds are available I will be getting this. Works good to keep ya warm.:D

Yeh I'm making an 'emergency parts' fund, but I may dip into that to buy something nice to pass... That or I might just bring a couple cheaper bottles-o-whiskey...

[Menzenski]

I will be bringing at least a case of good beer from my local brewery. What do you Midwest guys like? Pale ale, nut brown, red ale, IPA?

[XJ&CHZ4ME]

What do you Midwest guys like? Pale ale, nut brown, red ale, IPA?

YES :D

[vincepru]

if im in cleveland before making this trip, im bringing a few cases of great lakes christmas ale.

as for something to keep me warm, im thinking something along the lines of whiskey :P and ill be able to mix it in with some warm tea and honey for the lady.

[FlexdXJ]

I will be bringing at least a case of good beer from my local brewery. What do you Midwest guys like? Pale ale, nut brown, red ale, IPA?

Mainly they like beer in general! I am sure if Lesslimited (John, you are coming this year, Right? :D) comes to WF instead of Going to Hawaii this time He'll have some homebrew on him! :D

[CherBear]

mmmm Homebrew.... Sounds like something id try in my dorm room...

[CherBear]

On a serious note. Right now my exhaust is pretty sketchy... It met an unfortunate ending with a few rocks in a dry creek bed. Smashed the cat to hell and gave my cross member a good scraping.
Anyways, I put it back together with a few spare parts in my garage and ended up with a cat-less exhaust thats dumps before the rear axle.

I know this is a little less than up to emissions standards, but I tend to put my monetary priorities on other items.

Of course I dont want to represent Naxja (or 4x4ers as a whole) as white-trash ultra right-wingers, but how big of a deal is a setup like this at WF?

In other words, should I fix this before I come?

[XJ&CHZ4ME]

man, we are not the EPA...if you meet the requirements and your rig is safe, that should be good. I am sure yours is not the only rig out there w/o a cat. I am not condoning it, but I will say that there will be others out there w/o cats on their rigs. I can think of one right off the top of my head :rolleyes:

[CherBear]

man, we are not the EPA...if you meet the requirements and your rig is safe, that should be good. I am sure yours is not the only rig out there w/o a cat. I am not condoning it, but I will say that there will be others out there w/o cats on their rigs. I can think of one right off the top of my head :rolleyes:

Ok good. I was just checking because I know Naxja likes a to keep a good reputation and some people have big problems with the smell of un-converted exhaust fumes.

Now I can spend my money on other Jeep items! :party:

[XJ&CHZ4ME]

If your needing a cat to ease any worries, I have a few extra in the shop that I would gladly offer up. The rear dump exhaust under the vehicle is less then ideal and can bring in extra fumes into the cab, but to each their own.

[Rev Den]

MOST IMPORTANT:

Do not be a wallflower, walk around, introduce yourself, do not be afraid of approching groups of people and saying HI!

Many, if not all, of the older guys will happily take you under their wing and make sure you meet people.

If all else fails, find me, the red chopped top XJ, come up and say hi, I will make sure you meet the worst influences in our chapter.....and have a blast.

I am kinda of a shy introverted person, so I understand that it is not easy to approach some of these guys. So I am willing to help.

Rev

[HaleYes]

MOST IMPORTANT:

Do not be a wallflower, walk around, introduce yourself, do not be afraid of approching groups of people and saying HI!

Many, if not all, of the older guys will happily take you under their wing and make sure you meet people.

If all else fails, find me, the red chopped top XJ, come up and say hi, I will make sure you meet the worst influences in our chapter.....and have a blast.

I am kinda of a shy introverted person, so I understand that it is not easy to approach some of these guys. So I am willing to help.

Rev


Great advice Rev. I'd be happy to help anyone learn the ropes of WF as well.

[CherBear]

If your needing a cat to ease any worries, I have a few extra in the shop that I would gladly offer up. The rear dump exhaust under the vehicle is less then ideal and can bring in extra fumes into the cab, but to each their own.

Yea unfortunately it does, especially at stop lights ect. The tail pipe was too mangled to salvage and I was planning on going up to 2.5 inch piping anyways.

Like all Jeeps, its a work in progress...:rolleyes:

[99SJ_Ex]

Yeh what Rev said...
Last year I pulled in and everyone kinda watched me drive by.. I slunk over to the campfire and really didnt say much jsut kinda watched... After a while I started talking with Kim an Frank and that was just about it... Now Saturday was a different story... I made Bob my 'mentor' and became a little more vocal... Now almost a year later, I'd like to think that theres a handful of people on here I can call friends and many more will be after this WF... So yeh we only see ya once a year, so if you're introverted, become an extrovert,we won't know the difference!

tEx

[CherBear]

Rev and Hale, I will certainly try to introduce myself to all the MWC members. I am kind of a shy person as well, so I would be more than glad if one of you would "show me the ropes" so to speak.

(If all else fails, give me some of that homebrew :cheers:)

[HaleYes]

Yeh what Rev said...
Last year I pulled in and everyone kinda watched me drive by.. I slunk over to the campfire and really didnt say much jsut kinda watched... After a while I started talking with Kim an Frank and that was just about it... Now Saturday was a different story... I made Bob my 'mentor' and became a little more vocal... Now almost a year later, I'd like to think that theres a handful of people on here I can call friends and many more will be after this WF... So yeh we only see ya once a year, so if you're introverted, become an extrovert,we won't know the difference!

tEx

Hey!
You don't remember me?

[99SJ_Ex]

Hey!
You don't remember me?

Ohh I remember you Mike... How could I forget!

Installing the TB in complete darkness with a little AA mag torch for lighting.... :laugh3:

[XJ&CHZ4ME]

or me??? :( after all we shared on that long walk....oh wait, that was you, right? I am so ashamed.....

[89eliminator]

well i like talking rigs, so thats where i'll start haha. oh and i'll be the guy with the non-XJ :D

[99SJ_Ex]

I'm sorry.... Jeez Aparently I met everyone that went, and we're all good friends! Yeah... that sounds a lot better... :)

And we're all a big happy, messed up family :D

tEx

[99SJ_Ex]

On another note, the t-case kit showed up at home right as I was leaving for Iowa this past weekend... :( Unfortunatly I don't plan on going home next till Xmas break, but my break is Dec 23rd to Jan 22sih.... So plenty of time to work on it!

[CherBear]

well i like talking rigs, so thats where i'll start haha. oh and i'll be the guy with the non-XJ :D

Im not thaaat big of a noob :doh: Give me some respect... Sheeeesh

[89eliminator]

Im not thaaat big of a noob :doh: Give me some respect... Sheeeesh

that was a comment towards the general population...

[CherBear]

that was a comment towards the general population...

Are you the only MJ at WF?

[XJ&CHZ4ME]

nope, there will be a few

[lesslimited]

Mainly they like beer in general! I am sure if Lesslimited (John, you are coming this year, Right? :D) comes to WF instead of Going to Hawaii this time He'll have some homebrew on him! :D

No Hawaii in oh-10. We'll be heading to Costa Rica, after WF.

So, I will be bringing a couple 5 gallon kegs of homebrew. Probably an oatmeal stout, and something big and hoppy. Maybe I'll do a poll...

:cheers:

[XJ&CHZ4ME]

that witt that you had at the Pig Gig was mighty tastey!! hint hint..:cheers:

[CherBear]

nope, there will be a few

I was watching a youtube vid on WF 09. Who drives the blue doorless MJ?

[XJ&CHZ4ME]

I think that was part of Nicks gang from the Cinnci area

[chaz_88_MJ]

Are you the only MJ at WF?

I brought a MJ last year as well...and it will be there again this year :cheers:

[BOB]

I was watching a youtube vid on WF 09. Who drives the blue doorless MJ?


that would be comanchedude...

mine will be waxed and under a cover in a nice warm garage at home.:D

BOB

[CherBear]

that would be comanchedude...

mine will be waxed and under a cover in a nice warm garage at home.:D

BOB

Well it is an MJ, those are sort of rare. Xjs are a dime a dozen these days...

[bpm4x4]

nope, there will be a few


like me :guitar:

[bpm4x4]

On another note, the t-case kit showed up at home right as I was leaving for Iowa this past weekend... :( Unfortunatly I don't plan on going home next till Xmas break, but my break is Dec 23rd to Jan 22sih.... So plenty of time to work on it!

Iowa??

:yap:

[99SJ_Ex]

Yeh... Thanksgiving at the gfs grandparents... I'd rather not have gone at all... but then I'd be deaf... :)

[XJosh95]

LawnCher was there with his MJ in 09. He was behind me on green. And don't worry about being built. I ran through green stock and actually, on tires shorter than stock. Never hung up. All-terrains would have been nice, but I'm poor. I'll be there sitting taller and with a little more armor than in 09. It's one helluva time. You'll never regret it.

[BOB]

I am "gearing up" my cigar travel humidor.
I know Rev and XJosh95 smoke good stogies.
anybody else? :greensmok
I like Aarturo Fuente, Partagas, Romeo y Julieta...

BOB

[CherBear]

I am "gearing up" my cigar travel humidor.
I know Rev and XJosh95 smoke good stogies.
anybody else? :greensmok
I like Aarturo Fuente, Partagas, Romeo y Julieta...

BOB

illusione 88 have always been a favorite of mine...:smoker:

[RedHeep]

I am "gearing up" my cigar travel humidor.
I know Rev and XJosh95 smoke good stogies.
anybody else? :greensmok
I like Aarturo Fuente, Partagas, Romeo y Julieta...

BOB

All of the above. I was just going to bring some for Rev, but I'll be sure to bring a couple extra of the ones I bought in Dubai :D

Just don't tell the federalies.

[XJosh95]

Hell yeah, stogies! I love a good smoke. I'll be bringing the WF Oh-10 smokes I'm ordering...eventually. Plus my travel humidor will more than likely be full. I'm a big fan of the Perdomo Lot 23, Rocky Patel 1990 Anniversary, and Nub Camaroon.

[Rev Den]

Someone say stogies??

:D

Warning...you bring Macanudos or anything you get in a box from the gas station and you will be used as firewood, if you call them cigars.

Rev

[RedHeep]

My travel humidor is on a huey scheduled to arrive on friday from the boat :)

[kastein]

Well, if I do show up, I'll be bringing stuff for the pass around:
probably a case of blue moon
probably a case of something sam adams
(if I remember) a case of wachusett blueberry since it's a local one that's apparently good, haven't tried it yet
a fifth of Georgia Moon Shine On Corn Whiskey (:farmer::gee:)
a fifth of fire water
a fifth of ice 101...

I might keep the corn whiskey to myself, but the rest are getting passed around. Call them girly all you want but I've seen a swig of firewater followed by a swig of ice 101 knock over more than one tough guy :spin1:

What are the temps like in March in Indiana? I'm debating sleeping in the back seat of my XJ vs bringing a hammock and a few large stakes + a pole, and hope to wake up in a non frozen state.

[CherBear]

What are the temps like in March in Indiana? I'm debating sleeping in the back seat of my XJ vs bringing a hammock and a few large stakes + a pole, and hope to wake up in a non frozen state.

Now THAT is a heck of a question. Like I said in the other thread, bring a swimsuit and snow boots to be safe.

[Rev Den]

Weather....seems this comes up allot.

We have been in shorts at WF, and in full Carhartts with thermal undies, and still froze. As we get closer watch the weather.....but plan for cold, rain, snow, wind.

Rev

[XJosh95]

The motto for the weather in Indiana: If you don't like the weather, wait 10 minutes. If that describes anything to you, you'll know nothing should be excluded as far as weather appropriate clothing goes.

[XJ Stryker]

The motto for the weather in Indiana: If you don't like the weather, wait 10 minutes. If that describes anything to you, you'll know nothing should be excluded as far as weather appropriate clothing goes.

I have heard that MOTTO for every state there is. Don't feel that special.

[HaleYes]

I have heard that MOTTO for every state there is. Don't feel that special.


Fight!

Fight!

Fight!


:D

[kastein]

Yeah, we have that up here in MA too... except we say "if you don't like the weather, wait a minute" :D

I've seen days where it started rainy and cold, ended up sixty and sunny, then there was a hailstorm and there was heavy frost that night. In fact... aside from the hail, that was yesterday and today.

[CherBear]

I have heard that MOTTO for every state there is. Don't feel that special.

Its mainly the states in the middle of the country like IN, IL IA, OH, KY and to a lesser extent the states out west. The jetstream tends to wobble up and down, so depending on the day, the middle of the country is either enjoying the warmer air from down south, or freezing our (insert body part here) off from the northern air.

/weatherman

[XJ Stryker]

I am from Louisiana (heard it there) Gramps from Texas he uses it all the time. Attented army training in Maryland. heard it lots there.

Spent about 6 years in Washington state. Heard it there even though the rain never changed lol. And yes a lot here in Ky.

I think i here it more from newscasters in all these different places. Just one of those saying that every ones lays claim too.

[CherBear]

I am from Louisiana (heard it there) Gramps from Texas he uses it all the time. Attented army training in Maryland. heard it lots there.

Spent about 6 years in Washington state. Heard it there even though the rain never changed lol. And yes a lot here in Ky.

I think i here it more from newscasters in all these different places. Just one of those saying that every ones lays claim too.

Yea its probably just weathercasters saying the weather is soooo unpredictable so that they dont look so bad when they get it wrong...

There is some science to the jetstream idea, but I would have to agree with you some what.

[XJosh95]

I am from Louisiana

That explains your crazy avatar...

[BOB]

I am from Louisiana (heard it there) Gramps from Texas he uses it all the time. Attented army training in Maryland. heard it lots there.

Spent about 6 years in Washington state. Heard it there even though the rain never changed lol. And yes a lot here in Ky.

I think i here it more from newscasters in all these different places. Just one of those saying that every ones lays claim too.

I've lived all over the country too....same thing.

BOB

[XJ Stryker]

That explains your crazy avatar...

Lol born and raised coon ass lol.

Saints and LSU fan as long as I can remember.

WHO DAT!

[BOB]

Lol born and raised coon ass lol.

Saints and LSU fan as long as I can remember.

WHO DAT!

You and i talked about Louisiana. I am a big LSU fan. Been to LSU for work a couple times. been to Nawlin's a few times too. Love the creole, shrimp gumbo, jambalya, boiled crawfish...uummmm

BOB

[CherBear]

Back to being on topic...

I got myself a cheapo CB radio for the XJ. I pretty much bought it for WF.

[Menzenski]

I finally bought a CB as well. In my last XJ I had a cheap Radio Shack radio and a long whip that sidriptide gave me. It never worked all that well, so I'm doing a better job this time. I got a Cobra CB and a Wilson 1000 antenna. I mounted the radio today, but I still need to wire it in and mount the antenna (it's going right in the middle of the roof).

[RedHeep]

Make sure you guys tune your radio/antenna installation. Pick up a meter from radio shack for 25 bucks or have a radio shop do it.

There's probably enough of us that have meters that you could find someone to do it for free. Not only is it better for your radio, you'll be much happier with the way it works.

Make sure your radio has a dedicated ground. Also a big plus in the performance/static/drive you nuts process.

[CherBear]

Make sure you guys tune your radio/antenna installation. Pick up a meter from radio shack for 25 bucks or have a radio shop do it.

There's probably enough of us that have meters that you could find someone to do it for free. Not only is it better for your radio, you'll be much happier with the way it works.

Make sure your radio has a dedicated ground. Also a big plus in the performance/static/drive you nuts process.

My setup will be a cheapo Uniden (40ish bucks) hooked up to a fiberglass wilson 4ft or 5ft? Dont they all come the same length?

This is the el cheapo grande setup. My concerns go in this order, price, performance, looks.:looney:

[Menzenski]

Make sure you guys tune your radio/antenna installation. Pick up a meter from radio shack for 25 bucks or have a radio shop do it.
yep, I bought mine from my local radio/stereo shop and they're going to tune it for me.

[HaleYes]

My setup will be a cheapo Uniden (40ish bucks) hooked up to a fiberglass wilson 4ft or 5ft? Dont they all come the same length?

This is the el cheapo grande setup. My concerns go in this order, price, performance, looks.:looney:

El' Cheapo Grande can still be tuned.

[RedHeep]

My setup will be a cheapo Uniden (40ish bucks) hooked up to a fiberglass wilson 4ft or 5ft? Dont they all come the same length?

This is the el cheapo grande setup. My concerns go in this order, price, performance, looks.:looney:

You're tuning the antenna length to your particular vehicle and installation. It might not make a big difference on the trail talking from the gunner to the leader, but you can still tune those cheaper radios to work well enough to talk all over the campground/trail system.

I found a little mom and pop joint here in town and it's worth it to me to spend whatever they want to tune it up a little.

[CherBear]

You're tuning the antenna length to your particular vehicle and installation. It might not make a big difference on the trail talking from the gunner to the leader, but you can still tune those cheaper radios to work well enough to talk all over the campground/trail system.

I found a little mom and pop joint here in town and it's worth it to me to spend whatever they want to tune it up a little.

Do you know how much they charge?

Im just trying to get an estimate here.

[Menzenski]

Do you know how much they charge?

Im just trying to get an estimate here.

My local radio shop said not more than $10-15.

[99SJ_Ex]

theres more than one of us that usually carries a swr meter to WF... they would prob tune it for free or a beer...

[CherBear]

theres more than one of us that usually carries a swr meter to WF... they would prob tune it for free or a beer...

Well Im trying to get it to work before then...

What exactly is involved in the tuning process? Im fairly technically minded, but have very little knowledge about LPC.

[RedHeep]

Install it, make sure it works. The meter hooks up in between the radio and your antenna cable. It can be done after your install.

[CherBear]

Install it, make sure it works. The meter hooks up in between the radio and your antenna cable. It can be done after your install.

Then what does the actual tuning process involve?

Something about changing the length of the antenna? How you would do that with a fiberglass one is beyond me...

[IllianaXJ]

A lot of fiberglass antennas have tunable tips that allow you to change the SWR. Cheap antennas require you to trim the antenna for proper SWR.

If yours doesn't have the tunable tip (Wilson and Firestik IIRC), return it and get a tunable one. It is worth the extra few bucks.

[FlexdXJ]

A lot of fiberglass antennas have tunable tips that allow you to change the SWR. Cheap antennas require you to trim the antenna for proper SWR.

If yours doesn't have the tunable tip (Wilson and Firestik IIRC), return it and get a tunable one. It is worth the extra few bucks.

Yeah my Wilson is easy to tune. Much better than having to cut it.

[RedHeep]

Then what does the actual tuning process involve?

Something about changing the length of the antenna? How you would do that with a fiberglass one is beyond me...

Your "fiberglass" antenna is a fiberglass stick with a metal wire wrapped around it about a thousand times. You're trimming the metal (the actual antenna) until the wavelength matches up with the rest of your installation.

Firestick has a really good website that explains most of it and I'm not intelligent enough to give you a class, so if you want to know more, look it up.

[CherBear]

A lot of fiberglass antennas have tunable tips that allow you to change the SWR. Cheap antennas require you to trim the antenna for proper SWR.

If yours doesn't have the tunable tip (Wilson and Firestik IIRC), return it and get a tunable one. It is worth the extra few bucks.

I got it for free...:rolleyes:

[Fore Wheeler]

I got it for free...:rolleyes:

that's a good price.

let's not forget that a well tuned cb/antenna is nice, however for the most part you need to put out and receive less than a quarter mile.

I have a small uniden in my jeep, with a 'lil wil' mag antenna that I have stuck to the floor of my hatch area. when I had a roof it was on my roof. this is a great antenna.

[99SJ_Ex]

that's a good price.

let's not forget that a well tuned cb/antenna is nice, however for the most part you need to put out and receive less than a quarter mile.

I have a small uniden in my jeep, with a 'lil wil' mag antenna that I have stuck to the floor of my hatch area. when I had a roof it was on my roof. this is a great antenna.

I can agree to this as it is often the case, however, I know last year there were untuned CBs in the group and I couldn't hear several Jeeps behind me with the squelch almost maxed... I run a rig that has 20yrs of on-road use (dad was a trucker) with sidebands on all channels... It can make a difference... My $0.02

tEx

[CherBear]

I can agree to this as it is often the case, however, I know last year there were untuned CBs in the group and I couldn't hear several Jeeps behind me with the squelch almost maxed... I run a rig that has 20yrs of on-road use (dad was a trucker) with sidebands on all channels... It can make a difference... My $0.02

tEx

Well I will definitely look into this then. It doesnt need to be perfect, but it sounds like some of the trail cbs arent even useful.