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RedJeep2.0

November 26th, 2009, 13:13

Some of you remember this!
http://i55.photobucket.com/albums/g125/nick83882002/1247517391.jpg

Well I'm doing this to fix it!
http://i55.photobucket.com/albums/g125/nick83882002/Mobile%20Uploads/utf-8BSU1HMDAyMzUuanBn.jpg
3 link, adjustable raidus arm on the driver side and just a lower on the pass.
http://i55.photobucket.com/albums/g125/nick83882002/Mobile%20Uploads/utf-8BSU1HMDAyMjguanBn.jpg
Took out my crossmember and putting all this in the middle of the jeep!
http://i55.photobucket.com/albums/g125/nick83882002/Mobile%20Uploads/utf-8BSU1HMDAyMjkuanBn.jpg
Like my adjustable upper?
http://i55.photobucket.com/albums/g125/nick83882002/Mobile%20Uploads/utf-8BSU1HMDAyMzMuanBn.jpg
And my little peace of frame!
http://i55.photobucket.com/albums/g125/nick83882002/Mobile%20Uploads/utf-8BSU1HMDAyMjYuanBn.jpg

Everything is .250 wall.
The arms are 2inch .250 wall with BIG jonny joints the crossmember is 2inch by 8inch .250wall 39inchs from fame to frame it alone is 48lbs of steel!!
Lowering my center!

And one foot of 3x3 angel for some frame.

O yeah did you see that big chrome thing.
That is for my upper arm, I'm running it from my driver side lower.
I picked it up for cheap so I got it big!
All new energy suspension bushings.

What do you think!

Ba-Riedo

November 26th, 2009, 13:31

So you are running a wristed radius arm setup? I think you need all hard joints for that so those bushings might give you some brake dive.

-Alex

TORX

November 26th, 2009, 13:37

Looks good Nick.

How does the new cross member attach to the body?

RedJeep2.0

November 26th, 2009, 13:40

I'm doing hard joints on the crossmember. The poly joints are at the end of the lower and one on one side of the upper.

BigDog

November 26th, 2009, 13:43

Nice to see you are getting it done man been a little while in the making. So do you still want them control arms bro I have just been waiting to hear back from you on them?

RedJeep2.0

November 26th, 2009, 13:45

Looks good Nick.

How does the new cross member attach to the body?

I'm useing the stock crossmember holes and welding 3x3 angal to the frame to bolt to.
My buddy did the same to his jeep with 44 and 9inch and he's really hard on it.
And he just plated his frame on the side. Mine is bottem and side! So we will see

RedJeep2.0

November 26th, 2009, 13:50

Nice to see you are getting it done man been a little while in the making. So do you still want them control arms bro I have just been waiting to hear back from you on them?

No, I figured it out.

Just don't sell them, give them to someone he really needs them!

RedJeep2.0

November 28th, 2009, 23:01

Well... Just picked up a 3rd link!

Doing a full 3link long arm!

http://i55.photobucket.com/albums/g125/nick83882002/Mobile%20Uploads/utf-8BSU1HMDAyNDYuanBn.jpg

RedJeep2.0

December 15th, 2009, 20:25

Got the lower links all done today.
Just need to weld it up!

It looks good!

http://i55.photobucket.com/albums/g125/nick83882002/Mobile%20Uploads/utf-8BSU1HMDAzMjQuanBn.jpg
http://i55.photobucket.com/albums/g125/nick83882002/Mobile%20Uploads/utf-8BSU1HMDAzMjMuanBn.jpg
http://i55.photobucket.com/albums/g125/nick83882002/Mobile%20Uploads/utf-8BSU1HMDAzMjIuanBn.jpg

XJOFFROAD

December 15th, 2009, 20:57

Do those mounts hang as low as the pic looks?

RedJeep2.0

December 15th, 2009, 21:05

Do those mounts hang as low as the pic looks?

No, the very bottem of the link mounts hang as low as a stock cross member.
The plate is 2inch thick and the mounts are 2 1/2thick. The plate is right on the "frame".

NW-ZJ-SCOTT

December 15th, 2009, 21:13

looks like crap, i say throw it all away...
in my dumpster

IXNAYXJ

December 15th, 2009, 21:43

How low do those mounts hang? Looks like a rock magnet, but that could just be the angle.

-----Matt-----

RedJeep2.0

December 15th, 2009, 22:06

How low do those mounts hang? Looks like a rock magnet, but that could just be the angle.

-----Matt-----

They don't hang down that low. Ill take a pic tomorrow with a tape on it.

I can't wait to hit rocks with it. The thinist peace of steel is 1/4inch!!

XJOFFROAD

December 15th, 2009, 22:39

They don't hang down that low. Ill take a pic tomorrow with a tape on it.

I can't wait to hit rocks with it. The thinist peace of steel is 1/4inch!!

You will be hitting rocks with it. Its going to stop you in your path when you hit something.

TORX

December 15th, 2009, 23:03

IXNAYXJ

December 15th, 2009, 23:09

You will be hitting rocks with it. Its going to stop you in your path when you hit something.I assume this is sarcasm.... :dunno:
...the very bottem of the link mounts hang as low as a stock cross member.
But just in case: My Claytons kit hangs way down and it's never stopped me; a lot of folks do some pretty gnarly wheeling with drop brackets. Worst case, I can't imagine redjeep's links/mounts can be much worse, though I agree there are probably some ways to improve on them.

-----Matt-----

RedJeep2.0

December 15th, 2009, 23:18

Honestly I don't think Nick is planning on wheeling Johnson valley, Farmington, or competing in XRRA anytime soon. That setup will work just fine for some PNW wheeling. It's stout, the link mounts are ramped, it should perform flawlessly for what it will be used for. The biggest thing is it's is a huge improvement over what was there before (ie: 1rst pic).

Is it drivable yet, Nick?

No not yet, its all setup just needs to be welded. Then I can drive with my old aftermarket uppers.
Then I need to make a mount for the upper then I'm ready to wheel!
Thanks!

RedJeep2.0

December 15th, 2009, 23:23

But just in case: My Claytons kit hangs way down and it's never stopped me; a lot of folks do some pretty gnarly wheeling with drop brackets. Worst case, I can't imagine redjeep's links/mounts can be much worse, though I agree there are probably some ways to improve on them.

-----Matt-----

Lots of 3 and 4 link setups that you can buy hang down a lot.
Ill get more pics tomorrow

XJOFFROAD

December 16th, 2009, 09:38

Yes IXNAYXJ I was being sarcastic. I think its a fine setup. You may occasionally hit the mounts but at least you built them pretty stout. Looks good.

RedJeep2.0

December 16th, 2009, 11:56

Yes IXNAYXJ I was being sarcastic. I think its a fine setup. You may occasionally hit the mounts but at least you built them pretty stout. Looks good.

Thanks, best thing is that im in to it 150-200 bucks!

noutlawjeeper

December 16th, 2009, 14:50

Have you considered extending the frame reinforcement more? Seems like stopping it there with the added stress from the control arms could cause it to weaken/tear. Might be worthwhile to extend it a few inches in front and behind the CM. Just thinking aloud, looks good.

RedJeep2.0

December 16th, 2009, 15:31

I plan on running some thick sheet metal I have laying around down the frame

noutlawjeeper

December 16th, 2009, 21:06

I plan on running some thick sheet metal I have laying around down the frame

:cool:

RedJeep2.0

December 16th, 2009, 21:45

:cool:

:anon:

noutlawjeeper

December 16th, 2009, 22:11

:anon:

Wait, what? Mine was the "cool" smilie, we on the same page?

RedJeep2.0

December 16th, 2009, 22:21

Wait, what? Mine was the "cool" smilie, we on the same page?

Ha Ha Ha I'm useing my phone and it dose not show anything just a quote

We are on the same page!

IXNAYXJ

December 17th, 2009, 02:34

doseIS NOT A FAWKING WORD.

Just seems like this has been springing up a lot lately, like a bad rash or a Zombie resurgence.

-----Matt-----

WheelinJR

December 17th, 2009, 08:44

How far did you inboard those lower link mounts toward the middle of the Jeep? Looks like you moved them in quite a bit versus the stock mounts location

RedJeep2.0

December 17th, 2009, 12:11

How far did you inboard those lower link mounts toward the middle of the Jeep? Looks like you moved them in quite a bit versus the stock mounts location

Yeah I did, about 5 6inchs in more then stock. I'm tack welding it up tonight and going to move the axle around. I don't think it will bind up

NW-ZJ-SCOTT

December 17th, 2009, 12:34

FAWKING

IS NOT A XXXXING WORD.:wave:

XJLaredo

December 18th, 2009, 18:24

IS NOT A XXXXING WORD.:wave:

I do believe he has you there Matt!

RedJeep2.0

December 19th, 2009, 00:51

I do believe he has you there Matt!

X2

RlCHARD CRANlUM

December 19th, 2009, 08:02

He sure dose.:gee:

RedJeep2.0

December 19th, 2009, 09:22

He sure dose.:gee:

Ha Ha Ha

fubar XJ

December 19th, 2009, 09:48

Matt got a dose of his own medicine. ;)

northwestxj

December 19th, 2009, 16:32

RedJeep2.0

December 19th, 2009, 18:32

Can you post a picture of where you squeezed the upper in at? How much separation do you have on the frame end?

Also, can you post a picture from farther away from the side to see how much they do hang down.

Nice job on the work.
Yeah I can do that, I should be going over there tomorrow.
Thank you
it's my first and I'm doing it by my self ( getting help with the final welds)
I have had my jeep for 2 1/2 years.

RedJeep2.0

December 28th, 2009, 10:50

http://i55.photobucket.com/albums/g125/nick83882002/photo-2.jpg
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got some grinding to do and make a mount for the upper an I'll be done. I hangs down a little more then I thought. The lowest point is about 5in from the frame. I have more steel I can make another if I get hung up alot. But this is just to get me by....... And I did it all my self ( but the welding)
I was looking around at some other homemade ones and mine hangs down 2 more inchs then some iv seen, but I have not seen meany BIGGER then mine.

NW-ZJ-SCOTT

December 28th, 2009, 11:20

So the one in the pictures is for me right? Since its a poor design and all, your just scrapping that one-off and trying again right?

XJOFFROAD

December 28th, 2009, 11:25

can you notch out the crossmember and weld the CA brackets into the notches? that would probably free up 2-3". Just a thought, looks good

RedJeep2.0

December 28th, 2009, 11:38

So the one in the pictures is for me right? Since its a poor design and all, your just scrapping that one-off and trying again right?

maybe? Lol we will see soon!

can you notch out the crossmember and weld the CA brackets into the notches? that would probably free up 2-3". Just a thought, looks good
That's what I was thinking for the next one, only if it gets me hung up. And if I get mad cuz it slows me down. Thank you!

RedJeep2.0

December 29th, 2009, 23:09

http://i55.photobucket.com/albums/g125/nick83882002/photo-10.jpg

http://i55.photobucket.com/albums/g125/nick83882002/photo-9.jpg

got it all done. some paint for now. Cutting the links tomorrow!!! Just in time to miss the snow.

RedJeep2.0

December 30th, 2009, 14:10

38inch lowers!! Cutting and welding them now

RedJeep2.0

January 5th, 2010, 01:29

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88manche

January 5th, 2010, 16:13

holy crap beefy.

RedJeep2.0

January 5th, 2010, 16:44

holy crap beefy.

Yeah!!! One or two more welds and the upper link is on and done. Just waiting for someone to get home to weld it up for me. I weld like crap!

My buddy steve who was going to help me yesterday and today won't pick up the phone.... Guess that's his way of telling me he's not coming over.

30 or 40 more mins....

RedJeep2.0

January 7th, 2010, 01:54

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http://i55.photobucket.com/albums/g125/nick83882002/photo-28.jpg
http://i55.photobucket.com/albums/g125/nick83882002/photo-29.jpg
all done!! Drove it today, rides so nice now. I'll be taking it out on the highway tomorrow.

RlCHARD CRANlUM

January 7th, 2010, 05:54

Did you beef up the axle side lower mounts?

fubar XJ

January 7th, 2010, 06:26

You got a chain for that anchor? ;)

Construction looks plenty stout, would have been nice to have tucked it up a little higher. Let us know how it works out for you on the trail.

RedJeep2.0

January 7th, 2010, 08:47

Did you beef up the axle side lower mounts?

I was looking at that, mine are all bent up from befor.
I'm going to make a skid for them.

Or are you talking about cutting the old off and getting new thick ones on?

RedJeep2.0

January 7th, 2010, 08:51

You got a chain for that anchor? ;)

Construction looks plenty stout, would have been nice to have tucked it up a little higher. Let us know how it works out for you on the trail.

I was thinking about that after we put those ones there. Next time I take that crossmember off I'll do that, I have every thing to do it and cutting the links down won't take to much time.

RlCHARD CRANlUM

January 7th, 2010, 09:52

I was looking at that, mine are all bent up from befor.
I'm going to make a skid for them.

Or are you talking about cutting the old off and getting new thick ones on?

I welded the inside of my stock mounts to the tube, and then put a skid plate on them. If they are bent out of shape, I'd straighten them as best you can first. Save the custom mounts for the front D60.

RedJeep2.0

January 7th, 2010, 12:46

I welded the inside of my stock mounts to the tube, and then put a skid plate on them. If they are bent out of shape, I'd straighten them as best you can first. Save the custom mounts for the front D60.

I'll weld up the in side, i'm working on little sliders for them. Thanks ken.

I am thinking about a 60 and a 14 bolt.
My buddys got a Chevrolet 44 and 14 blot I think I'm gunna get from him.

dakineJ

January 7th, 2010, 17:49

Lookin good man. Are you connected with Dunetech ?

RedJeep2.0

January 7th, 2010, 19:48

Lookin good man. Are you connected with Dunetech ?

He's a good friend of mine. My jeeps in his shop. Why do you ask?

dakineJ

January 7th, 2010, 20:26

I was looking at their bumpers on the website, they used to have pics of a prerunner bumper for the XJ/MJ.

RedJeep2.0

January 7th, 2010, 21:20

Lookin good man. Are you connected with Dunetech ?

I was looking at their bumpers on the website, they used to have pics of a prerunner bumper for the XJ/MJ.

I love mine, hit a few trees really really hard and never has a problem. Give him a call. My New ones will be done soon!