Apparently I have upset several users and members recently.

[cal]

I have upset you without just cause, I sincerely appologize for it.

The source of this has been a few people who are very very fast to critisize Naxja's leadership, but have never made a personal effort toward the betterment of the club themselves and don't like my apathy toward their feelings.

And yes, I stand by that sentiment. If you have never run for an office, organized a run, coordinated a meet and greet, arranged a raffle, etc etc etc .. and are happy with that - great, more power to you. Not everyone is going to take charge here, and I fully respect that.

But if you want to post, PM me, IM me, call me, or email me and complain that you feel I have done a piss poor job or that I don't have the attitude you want to see ... and you have done nothing at all. Yeah, I'm pretty apathetic toward your viewpoint of me. Don't like it? Man up and do a better job, show me how it should be done.


On that same note, some people have been sack riding me for the way I have bickered with past or current chapter/national leadership .. please understand I will argue with these leaders on their own ground because i respect their opinions, and they get a vote. I may not agree with HOW some people have done things, and sometimes feel I can do them better. Time will tell. There are things I have done and still do for the club that others most certainly can do better .. and for the love of god, if you're that someone .. please step up and do it..

..but if you aren't willing to step up and be a leader, stop throwing rocks at the people who will.

[scottmcneal]

It is those fing ears... Told you before..:D.. But i think you have done a nice job..My 2 cents..

[cracker]

PM me for Cal's phone number :D

[Kittrell]

Not necessary, I have it right here.

1-800-EAT-SHIT

[ECKSJAY]

This thread needs more bacon.

[Ryno XJ]

seconded!

[XJ4Christ]

I have upset you without just cause, I sincerely appologize for it.

The source of this has been a few people who are very very fast to critisize Naxja's leadership, but have never made a personal effort toward the betterment of the club themselves and don't like my apathy toward their feelings.

And yes, I stand by that sentiment. If you have never run for an office, organized a run, coordinated a meet and greet, arranged a raffle, etc etc etc .. and are happy with that - great, more power to you. Not everyone is going to take charge here, and I fully respect that.

But if you want to post, PM me, IM me, call me, or email me and complain that you feel I have done a piss poor job or that I don't have the attitude you want to see ... and you have done nothing at all. Yeah, I'm pretty apathetic toward your viewpoint of me. Don't like it? Man up and do a better job, show me how it should be done.


On that same note, some people have been sack riding me for the way I have bickered with past or current chapter/national leadership .. please understand I will argue with these leaders on their own ground because i respect their opinions, and they get a vote. I may not agree with HOW some people have done things, and sometimes feel I can do them better. Time will tell. There are things I have done and still do for the club that others most certainly can do better .. and for the love of god, if you're that someone .. please step up and do it..

..but if you aren't willing to step up and be a leader, stop throwing rocks at the people who will.

Well I havent been keeping up on the politics going on atm.. probably as I have no say as I am not a member. I will tell you Cal that I appreciate you for the things you have done for me as well as pretty much everyone I have met and experienced here on NAXJA. You all are awesome! It is easy to look at the dirt on someone than to look at what is under it :peace:

[Kittrell]

I'm failing to see the benefit of an XJ built for the Lord. Someone help me out here.............:dunno:

[Skwerly]

Jesus take the wheel?

[Bryan C.]

I'm failing to see the benefit of an XJ built for the Lord. Someone help me out here.............:dunno:


Come on DJ. Have you ever been working on your rig and hurt yourself? The first thing out of your mouth was probably something like: jesus f-ing christ. Does that help?

[old_man]

I'm failing to see the benefit of an XJ built for the Lord. Someone help me out here.............:dunno:
DJ you are beyond anyone's help but the one above.:rof:

[Jump This]

PM me for Cal's phone number :D

:roflmao:

Who loves ya' Cal?

[Jump This]

As much as my Lord, Jesus Christ, doesn't need my, or anyone elses XJ to go rock crawling, I'd bet he would dig the crap out of one of our Hammer runs!

:peace:

[GSequoia]

As much as my Lord, Jesus Christ, doesn't need my, or anyone elses XJ to go rock crawling, I'd bet he would dig the crap out of one of our Hammer runs!

:peace:

He'd probably cheat though.


"Hey dad, can you levitate me over this waterfall, just remember to make it look convincing, okay?" :roll:

[IslanderOffRoad]

This thread needs more bacon.

http://blog.hyptyo.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/08/bacon-in-streifen.jpg

[xcm]

XXXX the haters!

[boostamante]

Jesus christ! This is awesome!

[squirrel80]

OK what am I missing here? I need cliff notes or something... Who, What, Where, and Why? All I know is I have met some pretty cool people here and have got to go wheeling with some of them. The ones that I don't have anything in common with I don't talk to, and the ones I do I have their numbers and talk to them all the time. So what is the problem with this? It is the internet people we can choose who we want to associate with. Pretty much I just see bickering among the same few that gives everyone a bad taste. It really doesn't matter to me because I can ignore it and still get the great things I came to this forum for. For me there is still lots of great people here that I enjoy hearing from and it doesn’t really matter who Mods what.

[Jump This]

Jesus christ! This is awesome!

Christ is with a cap 'C.'

;)

[boostamante]

Christ is with a cap 'C.'

;)

Whoops, sorry hey-zues.

[Kittrell]

Christ is with a cap 'C.'

;)

Only if you believe.......;)

[old_man]

Only if you believe.......;)
Or don't want to get a slap in the back of the head.

[djblade311]

"Jesus...." "Don't you forget it man!"

WWJW (What Would Jesus Wheel)? an XJ aka Xtreme Jesus

I agree with Cal that there are a few who don't do anything but complain. There are also those that complain but have done things behind the scenes to promote friendship and wheelin brother or sistahood. I personally take the "Do something about it" action vs being a whiner.

[old_man]

Like the wise man said......If you're not part of the solution then you are most likely part of the problem.

[1xfloppy]

mmmmmmmmmm bacon........http://blog.hyptyo.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/08/bacon-in-streifen.jpg

[GrimmJeeper]

i'm offended.

[old_man]

It's about time.

[ECKSJAY]

i'm offended.

Nobody posted midget clown snuff porn yet?

[Ryno XJ]

Nobody posted midget clown snuff porn yet?


I knew there was something missing.

[Skullver]

dang, haven't had much time to surf NAXJA lately, I must have missed some major....uh...stuff, good thing I don't have time to search around and figure out what, gotta get the kiddos to bed. Enjoy:)

[GrimmJeeper]

Nobody posted midget clown snuff porn yet?

you know me so well :heart:

[cal]

Like the wise man said......If you're not part of the solution then you are most likely part of the problem.



Well I'm glad somebody got the point.

Now if you could just teach the locals, we could elect a few more people into office and make SoCal a shiny happy wheeling eutopia... or at least put a stop to the fighting. ;)

[djblade311]

sunshine lollipop wheelers unite!

[XJ4Christ]

I'm failing to see the benefit of an XJ built for the Lord. Someone help me out here.............:dunno:

XJ4Christ is how I choose to identify myself on here because I love XJ's and my Lord Jesus Christ. My rig bears the name and it does get a lot of looks, especially with my doors off. If someone happens to see my rig and the Lord uses it in someones life to bring them to him or remind them etc, than that is benefit enough in my mind :).

[cal]

I'm failing to see the benefit of an XJ built for the Lord. Someone help me out here.............:dunno:


I'm failing to see the benefit of driving an Audi when you look as goofy as you do .. but I don't call you out in public for it. ;)

[Kittrell]

I'm failing to see the benefit of driving an Audi when you look as goofy as you do .. but I don't call you out in public for it. ;)

Thats because I'm not goofy lookin. You'd never sell that story.

[XJ_ranger]

I want to be importiant enough that people get my phone number from someone and call me!

Who do I have to piss off?

[GrimmJeeper]

I want to be importiant enough that people get my phone number from someone and call me!

Who do I have to piss off?

the spelling police? :D

[cal]

I want to be importiant enough that people get my phone number from someone and call me!

Who do I have to piss on?

Dumptruck. :)

[GrimmJeeper]

Dumptruck. :)

:roflmao:

[Ryno XJ]

Dumptruck. :)

No, that would get him a beating.....not a phone call!

[XJ_ranger]

I think it'd get me a phone call.

Dumptruck and I go way back...

I'll piss on him! :gag:

[Ryno XJ]

I think it'd get me a phone call.

Dumptruck and I go way back...

I'll piss on him! :gag:


Yeah well, I've seen him beat down his best friends too!!!!! lolol!

[Darky]

Only if you believe.......;)
....in grammar. Proper nouns, such as names, are always capitalized.

[GrimmJeeper]

....in grammar. Proper nouns, such as names, are always capitalized.

yea what justin said.


:D

[Darky]

yea what justin said.


:D
You...

:D

[GSequoia]

No, that would get him a beating.....not a phone call!

Nah, he'd probably like it.

[Paul Airhart]

I'm failing to see the benefit of an XJ built for the Lord. Someone help me out here.............:dunno:

Jesus was in construction, most of the Guy's I knew in the trades, including myself, had a 4X4 of some type.

[Monkey55]

Cal,

I'm only upset that you posted this thread. :D

Seriously, the people who are bitching and complaining need to put their panties on and suck it up.
They are the ones who are unhappy no matter what.

Keep on doing what you do, Cal and keep on being who you are.

Screw the cry babies.

[xDUMPTRUCKx]

how you been op?

man its been a lil while.






I think it'd get me a phone call.

Dumptruck and I go way back...

I'll piss on him! :gag:

[squirrel80]

Jesus built my Hot Rod...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fm4X9yElG9Y

[AJTorris]

man the way i look at it, if you dont like the site GTFO

[Leep]

man the way i look at it, if you dont like the site GTFO

Exactly - Build a bridge and get over it, move on and lets see what the next generation can do for us.

That will determine if I am going red again...

[terryg]

cal, u one of the best, most informed xj guys i know - i rely on u for info like so many others do. enuff said

[GSequoia]

cal, u one of the best, most informed xj guys i know

Man, you gotta meet more people! :eek:

[terryg]

REALLY? not meanin nothin by this, but all the naxja guys i've met have been great. cal is right up there at the top of my list - i've camped w/ him & his family, wheeled a bit, & gotten great advice. tells me when i'm wrong, & offers advice on how to fix what i screw up. only socal bill does that one better!

[terryg]

BTW - i really hope to meet more peeps w/ naxja - wheelin is an evolutionary thing, & can't think of a better place to go from neanderthal to human

[GrimmJeeper]

there is alot of sarcastic ribbing going on here dont take anything too serious :D

besides, everyone knows Sequoia's a jerk.

[Monkey55]

there is alot of sarcastic ribbing going on here dont take anything too serious :D

besides, everyone knows Sequoia's a jerk.


That's Mr. Jerk to you... ;)

Yeah.. Geoff and Cal go way back. That's just their way of saying..... " I love you man...."

[cracker]

I feel bad for those taking Jeep advice from Cal..........

[99xjache]

I feel bad for those taking Jeep advice from Cal..........


Cals advice is never really THAT bad, he just underestimates the REAL cost of thing a bit.

I cant believe some of the deals Cal cooks up. :greensmok

[Leep]

I dont ever trust what anyone tells me something is going to cost.

That is the first mistake I made and that will never happen again.

JEEP "Just Empty Every Pocket"

[jeeperjohn]

Christ is with a cap 'C.'

;)
What does the "H" stand for in Jesus H Christ?

[GrimmJeeper]

Hamburgers

[99xjache]

haliburton

[djblade311]

Hemorrhoid, Haploid, Hoboken, Harold

[Kittrell]

What does the "H" stand for in Jesus H Christ?

http://wiki.answers.com/Q/What_does_the_H_stand_for_in_Jesus_H_Christ

[boostamante]

What does the "H" stand for in Jesus H Christ?

Horchata!

Yummmm!

[Paul Airhart]

What does the "H" stand for in Jesus H Christ?

Holy

[justin_502]

I feel bad for those taking Jeep advice from Cal..........


I just got out of the hospitle today, since a few months ago when Cal installed my brake booster!

Jk Cal did good work

[HeepSpeed]

<insert witty comment here>

[GrimmJeeper]

<insert witty comment here>

<sarcastic yet funny response, taking what you said and making it sound gay>

[cracker]

I just got out of the hospitle today, since a few months ago when Cal installed my brake booster!

Jk Cal did good work

Can you post up a picture of this work?

Are you running drums or discs in the back?

[Skwerly]

My dad said it stood for "Handlebars". I like saying that. Been using it for years. :)

[Kittrell]

I thought it stood for Julio....

Do you see what I did there?

[Skwerly]

LOL! Gotta love it.

[jeeperjohn]

<sarcastic yet funny response, taking what you said and making it sound gay>
<odd off-color comment having nothing to do with the subject matter>

[GrimmJeeper]

<odd off-color comment having nothing to do with the subject matter>

<complaint about unrelated topics>
:anon:

[AJTorris]

Cal came over to bakersfield to help me work on my jeep... That puts him up there for me!

[GSequoia]

<complaint about unrelated topics>
:anon:

<Stern warning from moderator regarding the soon implementation of Den rule number 5.>

[GrimmJeeper]

<Stern warning from moderator regarding the soon implementation of Den rule number 5.>

<yet another violation, while explaining that i did nothing wrong, all in capitals>

[GSequoia]

<yet another violation, while explaining that i did nothing wrong, all in capitals>

<edits original post to make you look like even more of a jackass>

[cracker]

You two need a room :gee:

[GrimmJeeper]

You two need a room :gee:

<photoshopped pic of cracker>

[cracker]

<infraction for five line signature>

[GrimmJeeper]

<infraction for five line signature>

<correcting the problem so i can say you are wrong>

[Monkey55]

<selling all of my jeeps because I don't like you guys... I mean NAXJA.... I mean you guys.... I mean.....>

[HeepSpeed]

<basks in the trend he started>

[jeeperjohn]

<basks in the trend he started>
<turns green with envy of Heepspeed's superior social instincts>

[silverslk]

<turns green with envy of Heepspeed's superior social instincts>

<closes thread and now knows why he is not red letter anymore>

[Monkey55]

<closes thread and now knows why he is not red letter anymore>

<thinking that no cares and should stop being negative & complaining <insert crying emoticon with pacifier>>

[terryg]

andy, u r wrong - the only way to make it all better is to wheel together, this bs of yak gets nowhere. grimm did the same thing. i propose a "play day" - bring what u run, stocker or built - no more yak, just action - any thoughts?

[GrimmJeeper]

grimm did the same thing.

now what did i do? :eyes:

[Monkey55]

now what did i do? :eyes:

Didn't you accidentally the whole thing?

[GSequoia]

Didn't you accidentally the whole thing?

Sideways.

[GrimmJeeper]

Didn't you accidentally the whole thing?

accidentaly :(

[scottmcneal]

accidentaly :(

I find it hard to believe

[silverslk]

Didn't you accidentally the whole thing?

accidentaly :(

Just ignore Elias. He had to change his name to feel better.:doh:

[Monkey55]

Just ignore Elias. He had to change his name to feel better.:doh:

There you go again.........

I was making reference to an outside joke to Mike and you had to take a personal jab at me....

Turn over a new leaf or something....

[RWKHausSupply]

Well since Cal has finally decided to do some work around here in the way of now micro monitoring of my for sale post that was not in violation, but felt it personal...

Why is it cal that I have clicked the link on the sponsorship vendor contact page over 6 times and sent messages regarding what I need to do to GIVE MY MONEY to naxja, but only ever got ONE reply, weeks after starting that quest when it seemed valuable at the time, and it said you would be back in contact with me in a day or two. Then weeks later you email me and basically say, your sorry but you would like me to give you a years dues and I would get the remaining like 60 days thrown in now.

So not only did YOU cost this club $$$ but you also cost this chapter a vendor that no matter what one idiot (not you) has to say and never even met me, I give deals to people that NO ONE IN THE SO CAL AREA OFFERS! NO ONE HERE offers prices as low as me AND does installs! NO ONE!

And NOW, you deem it necessary to try and rant about, screw everyone that doesn’t think you been doing a sufficient job at your duties?

ITS VERY clear to ME that you have lacked Any follow thru on your duties as set forth here, as well as very unprofessional attitude (which I could care less about, but still), mixed with a screw you attitude about those issues?

I sure hope this forum can someday reorganize and get people of enthusiasm, professional follow thru and are responsible.

Till then I guess we take what we once thought were what would work.

And NOPE I am NOT red letter, and for reasons JUST LIKE THIS!

[cal]

Not only was it in violation, but I wasn't the one who

a) complained. legitimate vendors did.

b) gave you an infraction. someone else did

c) nuked your thread. yet again, someone else did.


The rules here are very simple. The fact that you have little regard for them does not make me an asshole.

[djblade311]

prime example where drama unfolds due to misunderstanding? "What we have here...is a failure to communicate". backchannel or via a phone call can clear things up

[EazyXJWJ]

Yo! Robertk and cal, Happy Thanksgiving!

[GrimmJeeper]

i still like bacon:D

[IslanderOffRoad]

i still like bacon:D
Bacon in Texas is cheaper, cut thicker, and more delicious.

[jeeperjohn]

i still like bacon:D
Mmmmmmmm......Baaaaaaacon!

[RWKHausSupply]

prime example where drama unfolds due to misunderstanding? "What we have here...is a failure to communicate". backchannel or via a phone call can clear things up

Cal accused me of "slandering" his name in 8 threads, then tells me that I cant post a for sale item since it has a link to my site and is a violation. when I infact linked to it for discription only.

Then I call him on, his accusations of me slandering him name and such, then within about 15 min my posting is pulled.

Its not fukin rocket science. anyone with any common sense can figure that one out.

He failed at his job duties for months and then publicly comes out of the closet and says, screw all you who dont liek it?

WTF?

Yeah lets keep him in in his position cause he cares so much. :doh:

[Brendan_91XJ]

This was brought up in April of this year and passed, unless you wanted to be a national vender.

Local Vendors:

A local vendor can work with the chapter BOD of a particular chapter, and can gain rights to advertise in the chapter forum and associated sub forums.
The individual chapter BOD has all rights to determine the amount and type and location of advertising, and can modify the program as they see fit.
A local vendor is NOT entitled to use and of the national sponsor features, including: the use of the signature for advertising, the use of the national vendors forum, a blue colored name, or the use of a banner.
If a local vendor wants to use these features, then they have to become a national sponsor. More info for the national sponsorship program can be found in the Sponsor Info FAQ (http://sponsorship.naxja.org/sponsorshipfaq.html).

[RWKHausSupply]

This was brought up in April of this year and passed, unless you wanted to be a national vender.


Local Vendors:

A local vendor can work with the chapter BOD of a particular chapter, and can gain rights to advertise in the chapter forum and associated sub forums.
The individual chapter BOD has all rights to determine the amount and type and location of advertising, and can modify the program as they see fit.
A local vendor is NOT entitled to use and of the national sponsor features, including: the use of the signature for advertising, the use of the national vendors forum, a blue colored name, or the use of a banner.
If a local vendor wants to use these features, then they have to become a national sponsor. More info for the national sponsorship program can be found in the Sponsor Info FAQ (http://sponsorship.naxja.org/sponsorshipfaq.html).


thank you for that info. Dont know how that pertains to Anything regaurding me and this situation I am in with the sponsorship rep for NAXJA, but thanks all the same.

[djblade311]

i obviously dont know all the details but the failure to communicate was a joking reference to not getting your calls returned. if you arent satisfied with the lack of response, I would suggest contacting other National BOD members.

[Goatman]

thank you for that info. Dont know how that pertains to Anything regaurding me and this situation I am in with the sponsorship rep for NAXJA, but thanks all the same.


Red name let's you vote. Black name just let's you bitch.







I really hate this "that's why I'm not red" or "if this was changed I'd be red" or whatever lame excuse to blame not joining on someone else. We belong because we want to belong, because we want to contribute. Nothing is going to be perfect, and we're not going to like everyone or everything that happen's. That's just life.

Belong or don't belong, but don't claim your decision is anything other than what you choose to do. If you can't afford it, we understand. If you're just cheap, then you're cheap. Hanging around the forums and saying you don't join because of someone or something is childish IMHO.

[AJTorris]

Well i would join if Richard left... (J/K) No i plan on being red at the beginning of the year. I have gotten a lot of help from Richard, Cal, and quite a few other people on this site. this site is really helpful. THANK YOU All for all of your hard work on here helping all of us that havent been into the jeeps as long as you.

[RedHeep]

With all due respect to previous members, I think the national BOD is probably the most qualified and professional group this club has seen since I've been around.

It certainly got better when I left :D

Keep on rolling Cal, don't let the 10% get you down.

[boostamante]

I think we should all just take a deep breath, take a few steps back and let by-gones be by-gones. We are all grown ass men here for one thing and thats Jeeps. I know i might have been out of line at times with the B.S. thats come out of me but really, its not that serious. I rather get along than not. We have the ability to make this place work for us and other to come. I like to think that most of us would like this place more forwards than backwards. :)

[terryg]

well put julio

[Carol.92124]

We are all grown ass men here for one thing and thats Jeeps. :) Hey, Julio... you're wrong!! I'm not a grown ass man... sheesh :rof:. But yes, NAXJA's a great place to learn a lot & meet a lot of great folks.

[boostamante]

Hey, Julio... you're wrong!! I'm not a grown ass man... sheesh :rof:. But yes, NAXJA's a great place to learn a lot & meet a lot of great folks.

My bad carol, I forget that we have kick ass women here too. :p

[Carol.92124]

And don't you forget it!! <raises a foot to kick some ass>

[cal]

With all due respect to previous members, I think the national BOD is probably the most qualified and professional group this club has seen since I've been around.

It certainly got better when I left :D

Keep on rolling Cal, don't let the 10% get you down.


Coming from you James, that actually means quite a bit.

And no, RobertK's bitching doesn't get me down at all. A handful of other vendors have managed to get signed up in the past couple months, maybe his bitching has demotivated me making 'extra' effort to chase him down.

In a couple of days Josh and I will take over this chapter, hopefully history will prove us to be active, motivated and a positive influince to all of Naxja.

God I hope Josh doesn't vanish and force me to live up to all of that crap. :)

[cracker]

I think Cal is lazy.

He still hasn't got the gear oil out of my oil catch pan .!. :D .!.

[IslanderOffRoad]

I think Cal is lazy.

He still hasn't got the gear oil out of my oil catch pan .!. :D .!.

I dont want to know.