rear bumper and adding the C4x4 tire carrier

Its time for a tire carrier and I love the C4x4 rear bumper and tire carrier. I salvaged a rear bumper with a tire carrier about a year ago that was on my uncles jeep which caught on fire and it isnt in the best shape so ive been debating for awhile if i want to just spend the cash on a new bumper and tire carrier or just referbish this old one.

Now I was looking at the C4x4 bumper and this one I have they look pretty identical. I was thinking if the bumpers were close enough I could just get the C4x4 tire carrier and install it on the bumper I have. I just need some opinions and if you actually have the bumper and can compare with the pictures then that would be great help.

Also if i need to put up some measurement I can.




heres where the tire carrier mounted to the bumper



and just so you guys can see the old tire carrier and see if i should just repair it



Any input would be great! Thanks!

As your pics show,it wasnt built strong enough in the first place to carry a tire.Depending on your skills it could easily be straightened and beefed up!

that looks like stock brackets welded onto the bumper

Jess said:

that looks like stock brackets welded onto the bumper

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Yeah it definately needs some real mounting points and some "boxing" to support a tire!

RCP Phx said:

As your pics show,it wasnt built strong enough in the first place to carry a tire.Depending on your skills it could easily be straightened and beefed up!

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Yeah I have no fabrication skills, but I'm willing to learn. What could I do to beef this up to get it ready for a tire?

Jess said:

that looks like stock brackets welded onto the bumper

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Yeah I thought that too but wanst too sure

I woul start by boxing in the bumper or even adding some gussets behind where the tire latches in and where the hinge mounts. Them maybe make a new bracket for the hinge out of some 1/4". Then paint and you should be good.

it would be too much work for you to learn to weld, get a welder, become proficient in welding, get metal, repair/strengthen old craptastic bumper and all that goes with it. you would be better off buying a new bumper/tire carrier

Detours tailbone, no fab needed. Tools: ratchet, sockets, wrenches, drill, grinder w/cutting wheel

sunburned said:

Detours tailbone, no fab needed. Tools: ratchet, sockets, wrenches, drill, grinder w/cutting wheel

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yeah ive been thinking about the detours tailbone but I think I want to go the whole 9 yards and get a beefier bumper along with the tire carrier but ill definetly keep the detours in mind since it would be easier on the wallet..

I dont think thats a true C4x4 bumper, looks like a copy. Unless it's extremely old, mine dates back to the 90's and it has several design differences.

Drop Mike from C4x4 an email, he is very helpfull.

OverlandXJ said:

I dont think thats a true C4x4 bumper, looks like a copy. Unless it's extremely old, mine dates back to the 90's and it has several design differences.

Drop Mike from C4x4 an email, he is very helpfull.

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Yeah I figured it was just a look alike and Ill probably contact him sometime here soon.

I decided to try and bend the bracket back for the carrier and after two hits with a hammer it snapped off...