Ted Kennedy Dead

[goodburbon]

Never been so glad to see someone go.

[urban yan]

What an asshole'ish thing to say.

[karstic]

What an asshole'ish thing to say.

Wonder what Mary Jo Kopechne would have to say?

[urban yan]

Wonder what Mary Jo Kopechne would have to say?
I don't know? "I wish I took a cab" ?

The guy saw everyone near and dear to him die, and he died from terminal brain cancer. He didn't exactly live a charmed life. Let it go.

[goodburbon]

Well, let's review the record.

I made an assholish statement. That's ok, I'm an asshole.

Now lets review the Kennedy record.

Run off bridge and kill your date, report it the next day, never suffer any consequences...check

Obstinate ass in senate...check

Infinite re-electability solely on family name by an ill informed and idiotic constituiency...check

Enemy of 2nd amendment rights...check

Proponent of killing unborn children...check

Stood in the way of military funding...check

Supported a socialist agenda...check

Favored taxing the bejeesus out of the "rich"...check

Had laws changed so that his republican governor could not appoint a republican senator if his junior senator were to be elected president...check

Attempted to change the laws back to what they were so that his new democratic governor could appoint a democratic replacement in the event of his death, in time to cram this socialism down our throats...check

Yeah, I'm not even a Republican and I'm glad he's gone.

[urban yan]

That was very concise. A bejeesus is allot of money, and killing unborn babies while hating guns is pretty bad.

[ECKSJAY]

Don't let the door hit ya in the ass, you drunking fawk. Say HI to the rest of your family in hell, Teddy.

[urban yan]

Don't let the door hit ya in the ass, you drunking fawk. Say HI to the rest of your family in hell, Teddy.
Do they have clam chowder in hell? Ecksjay you'd know.

[WB9YZU]

Last time I checked, we are all human.
Humans make mistakes - let it go if it didn't affect you. Forgive it if it did.

As far as his political career. By most standards, it was an exemplory one. Some of you may not have agreed with his politics, but appearantly the folks he worked for did as they kept re-electing him.

So ends the dynasty of Joe Kennedy. RIP - all of them.

-Ron

[RTFM]

He was such a gentleman when they got to that bridge it took him 9 hours to open the car door for her.

Don't bother to shed a tear for the fat bastard.
+1 for National Lampoon.


http://i192.photobucket.com/albums/z76/cvguy/cvguy%20humor/NewTedKennedyAd1.jpg


:gee:

[TunaSoda]

http://www.comicbookmovie.com/images/users/uploads/9043/dead-kennedys.jpg

[ECKSJAY]

Do they have clam chowder in hell? Ecksjay you'd know.

I sure hope so.

[kastein]

Proponent of killing unborn children...checkWhy do you have a problem with this? I'm ok with 1st, 2nd, 3rd, and for that matter 240th trimester abortions. Of course, if the idiots would do some planning and wear a damn rubber and take other precautions when needed, it wouldn't even be an issue.
Supported a socialist agenda...check

Favored taxing the bejeesus out of the "rich"...checkok... yeah... he can go to hell now. flat taxes and freedom > *

[goodburbon]

I don't believe in hell, I'm just glad he's not there to influence things on the hill anymore.

I have a problem with abortion because it denys fathers rights.

[5spd_xj]

I for one, was extremely happy to hear this news. asshole or not, I don't care. I'm not upset in the least to hear about this. :patriot:

[kastein]

yeah... I don't really care if I'm an asshole for it either. Maybe we can get that wind farm off Martha's Vineyard now? :yelclap:

[ehall]

The think that bothered me most about Ted Kennedy (apart from Chappaquidick) was his self-stated war against the Individual.

"At a time when our entire country is banding together and facing down individualism, the Patriots set a wonderful example, showing us all what is possible when we work together, believe in each other, and sacrifice for the greater good."

Left-vs-Right always comes down to collectivism vs individualism. Kennedy carried water for those who would suppress the individual in favor of and service to the state. This is his company to keep

* We must abolish the cult of the individual decisively, once and for all. – Nikita Khrushchev
* All our lives we fought against exalting the individual, against the elevation of the single person. – Vladimir Lenin
* There is the great, silent, continuous struggle: the struggle between the State and the Individual. – Benito Mussolini
* The main plank in the National Socialist program is to abolish the liberalistic concept of the individual. – Adolf Hitler (Remember, present-day conservatives would be called liberals in the 1940s.)

Do you like being you, or do you want to be a grey-clothed cog in the wheel of the state. Ted Kennedy wanted the latter, may he rot in perpetuity

[Mtb Jak]

obama care... :explosion

[16guns]

Yahoo!

[avnsteve]

The think that bothered me most about Ted Kennedy (apart from Chappaquidick) was his self-stated war against the Individual.

"At a time when our entire country is banding together and facing down individualism, the Patriots set a wonderful example, showing us all what is possible when we work together, believe in each other, and sacrifice for the greater good."
Left-vs-Right always comes down to collectivism vs individualism. Kennedy carried water for those who would suppress the individual in favor of and service to the state. This is his company to keep
* We must abolish the cult of the individual decisively, once and for all. – Nikita Khrushchev
* All our lives we fought against exalting the individual, against the elevation of the single person. – Vladimir Lenin
* There is the great, silent, continuous struggle: the struggle between the State and the Individual. – Benito Mussolini
* The main plank in the National Socialist program is to abolish the liberalistic concept of the individual. – Adolf Hitler (Remember, present-day conservatives would be called liberals in the 1940s.)

VERY well stated, I never knew him as a man, but his politics were FRIGHTENING, and for that alone, I am glad he no longer has direct influence. Although, who they place in his vacuum is nearly as scary. I wonder how much that senate seat is going for? Blagojevich, you got any suggestions?

[Nickfast]

My father died of the same thing a few years ago, and tthat is not the kind of death I would wish on ANYONE.
That being said, I willl NOT shed a tear for his passing.
If he were on the kind of health care that he wanted to cram down the rest of our throats, he would have been given end of life counseling and pain meds a year ago, instead of the no expense spared congeressional health care that he received.
Hypocrite.

Nick

[Ironmen77]

No patriot

http://sweetness-light.com/archive/kgb-letter-details-kennedy-offer-to-ussr

Letter Details Kennedy Offer To USSR (http://sweetness-light.com/archive/kgb-letter-details-kennedy-offer-to-ussr)

[A repost of a S&L article from December 2006 (http://tinyurl.com/ynt9pl).]
This letter which details Senator Edward Kennedy’s offer to help the Soviet Union defeat Reagan’s efforts to build up the nuclear deterrent in Europe was unearthed by a Times of London reporter in the 1990s after the KGB files were opened.
It got little or no attention, however, until the publication of Paul Kengor’s book (http://tinyurl.com/yfzxmc) "The Crusader – Ronald Reagan and the Fall of Communism."
But even then the actual text of the letter (which is in the book’s appendix pp 317-320) has gotten short shrift:
http://photos.smugmug.com/photos/630852448_VewBK-O.jpg Appendix
TEXT OF KGB LETTER ON SENATOR TED KENNEDY
_________________________________________
Special Importance
Committee on State Security of the USSR
14.05. 1983 No. 1029 Ch/OV
Moscow
Regarding Senator Kennedy’s request to the General Secretary of the Communist Party Comrade Y.V. Andropov
Comrade Y.V. Andropov
On 9-10 May of this year, Senator Edward Kennedy’s close friend and trusted confidant J. Tunney was in Moscow. The senator charged Tunney to convey the following message, through confidential contacts, to the General Secretary of the Center Committee of the Communist Party of the Soviet Union, Y. Andropov.
Senator Kennedy, like other rational people, is very troubled by the current state of Soviet-American relations. Events are developing such that this relationship coupled with the general state of global affairs will make the situation even more dangerous. The main reason for this is Reagan’s belligerence, and his firm commitment to deploy new American middle range nuclear weapons within Western Europe.
According to Kennedy, the current threat is due to the President’s refusal to engage any modification on his politics. He feels that his domestic standing has been strengthened because of the well publicized improvement of the economy: inflation has been greatly reduced, production levels are increasing as is overall business activity. For these reasons, interest rates will continue to decline. The White House has portrayed this in the media as the "success of Reaganomics."
Naturally, not everything in the province of economics has gone according to Reagan’s plan. A few well known economists and members of financial circles, particularly from the north-eastern states, foresee certain hidden tendencies that many bring about a new economic crisis in the USA. This could bring about the fall of the presidential campaign of 1984, which would benefit the Democratic party. Nevertheless, there are no secure assurances this will indeed develop.
The only real threats to Reagan are problems of war and peace and Soviet-American relations. These issues, according to the senator, will without a doubt become the most important of the election campaign. The movement advocating a freeze on nuclear arsenals of both countries continues to gain strength in the United States. The movement is also willing to accept preparations, particularly from Kennedy, for its continued growth. In political and influential circles of the country, including within Congress, the resistence to growing military expenditures is gaining strength.
However, according to Kennedy, the opposition to Reagan is still very weak. Reagan’s adversaries are divided and the presentations they make are not fully effective. Meanwhile, Reagan has the capabilities to effectively counter any propaganda. In order to neutralize criticism that the talks between the USA and the USSR are non-constructive, Reagan will grandiose, but subjectively propagandistic. At the same time, Soviet officials who speak about disarmament will be quoted out of context, silenced or groundlessly and whimsically discounted. Although arguments and statements by officials of the USSR do appear in the press, it is important to note the majority of Americans do not read serious newspapers or periodicals.

Kennedy believes that, given the current state of affairs, and in the interest of peace, it would be prudent and timely to undertake the following steps to counter the militaristic politics of Reagan and his campaign to psychologically burden the American people. In this regard, he offers the following proposals to the General Secretary of the Central Committee of the Communist Party of the Soviet Union Y.V. Andropov: 1. Kennedy asks Y.V. Andropov to consider inviting the senator to Moscow for a personal meeting in July of this year. The main purpose of the meeting, according to the senator, would be to arm Soviet officials with explanations regarding problems of nuclear disarmament so they may be better prepared and more convincing during appearances in the USA. He would also like to inform you that he has planned a trip through Western Europe, where he anticipates meeting England’s Prime Minister Margaret Thatcher and French President Mitterand in which he will exchange similar ideas regarding the same issues.
If his proposals would be accepted in principle, Kennedy would send his representative to Moscow to resolve questions regarding organizing such a visit.
Kennedy thinks the benefits of a meeting with Y.V.Andropov will be enhanced if he could also invite one of the well known Republican senators, for example, Mark Hatfield. Such a meeting will have a strong impact on American and political circles in the USA (In March of 1982, Hatfield and Kennedy proposed a project to freeze the nuclear arsenals of the USA and USSR and pblished a book on the theme as well.)
2. Kennedy believes that in order to influence Americans it would be important to organize in August-September of this year, televised interviews with Y.V. Andropov in the USA. A direct appeal by the General Secretary to the American people will, without a doubt, attact a great deal of attention and interest in the country. The senator is convinced this would receive the maximum resonance in so far as television is the most effective method of mass media and information.

If the proposal is recognized as worthy, then Kennedy and his friends will bring about suitable steps to have representatives of the largest television companies in the USA contact Y.V. Andropov for an invitation to Moscow for the interview. Specifically, the president of the board of directors of ABC, Elton Raul and television columnists Walter Cronkite or Barbara Walters could visit Moscow. The senator underlined the importance that this initiative should be seen as coming from the American side.
Furthermore, with the same purpose in mind, a series of televised interviews in the USA with lower level Soviet officials, particularly from the military would be organized. They would also have an opportunity to appeal directly to the American people about the peaceful intentions of the USSR, with their own arguments about maintaining a true balance of power between the USSR and the USA in military term. This issue is quickly being distorted by Reagan’s administration.
Kennedy asked to convey that this appeal to the General Secretary of the Central Committee of the Communist Party of the Soviet Union is his effort to contribute a strong proposal that would root out the threat of nuclear war, and to improve Soviet-American relations, so that they define the safety of the world. Kennedy is very impressed with the activities of Y.V. Andropov and other Soviet leaders, who expressed their commitment to heal international affairs, and improve mutal understandings between peoples.
The senator underscored that he eagerly awaits a reply to his appeal, the answer to which may be delivered through Tunney.
Having conveyed Kennedy’s appeal to the General Secretary of the Central Committee of the Communist Party of the Soviet Union, Tunney also explained that Senator Kennedy has in the last few years actively made appearances to reduce the threat of war. Because he formally refused to partake in the election campaign of 1984, his speeches would be taken without prejudice as they are not tied to any campaign promises. Tunney remarked that the senator wants to run for president in 1988. At that time, he will be 56 and his personal problems, which could hinder his standing, will be resolved (Kennedy has just completed a divorce and plans to remarry in the near future). Taken together, Kennedy does not discount that during the 1984 campaign, the Democratic Party may officially turn to him to lead the fight against the Republicans and elect their candidate president. This would explain why he is convinced that none of the candidates today have a real chance at defeating Reagan.
We await instructions.
President of the committee
V. Chebrikov
Lest we forget in our grief.

[tbburg]

'Best of 'ole Joe's brats died in WW-II. The rest went into politics.

Goodbye Teddy,...

Not going to miss you.

[Begster]

Hyannisport, where the Kennedy compound is, is in my town. I just came from my center of town, and people were pulled over and lined up and down the streets. Police and firefighters were as well, they even had a ladder truck over the route with a 30' flag draped over the road. It was something to see. A lot of people respected him.

I know some of you didn't, I'm indifferent to the situation. Just saying it was impressive the respect some people were paying him.

[Darky]

An NPR eulogy:

He may have sometimes seemed like a gin-soaked anachronism from The Beautiful and the Damned who somehow wandered into 21st-century America, but Edward M. Kennedy is a permanent rebuke to F. Scott Fitzgerald and his assertion that there are no second acts in American lives. Kennedy's life was a string of second acts: Expelled from Harvard for academic dishonesty, he was readmitted to the good graces of the Ivy League under a gentlemen's agreement; politically marginalized after leaving Mary Jo Kopechne to die of asphyxiation in his sinking Oldsmobile, he was readmitted to the good graces of the Democratic party under a gentlemen's agreement of a different sort; frustrated in his desire to follow his brother to the White House, he reinterpreted his relegation to the legislature as a heroic political stand. Senator Kennedy proved to be a political immortal, and no scandal, hypocrisy, or failure of vision could threaten his career. Indeed, even mortality has not ended his influence, and Democrats already are positioning themselves to use his passing as a platform to further one of the worst of his initiatives, a government takeover of the health-care industry.
As a member of the modern American aristocracy, Senator Kennedy believed that he had a mandate to use his power to do good for the least well-off among us, and that cast of mind is, at its core, admirable. Among the better achievements of his life, Kennedy lent moral support to important civil-rights and voting-rights legislation. Unhappily, he mistook power for wisdom, and he very often left things worse than he had found them. He meddled in Northern Ireland to no good end, contributed mightily to the politicization of the federal courts, sought to regulate and restrict political speech, appeased the Soviets, contributed to the American defeat in Vietnam, and attempted to apply the Vietnam template to Iraq. A child of privilege, he worked energetically to deny school-choice scholarships to poor black children in Washington, D.C. His ideas on taxes, immigration, and social welfare were reliably counterproductive.
On the issue of health care, long dear to him, Senator Kennedy was a serial fumbler, and much of the maddening modern American health-care bureaucracy, with its welter of HMOs, PPOs, and tangled intersections of the public and the private, has its origins in Kennedy's legislative imagination. In a much-noted 2001 presentation, Senator Kennedy denounced HMOs as condemning unfortunates "to second-rate care from the doctor who happens to be on the plan's list." Unmentioned was the fact that the modern HMO regime was brought into existence by Senator Kennedy, who shaped the 1973 legislation that created it.
Senator Kennedy was famed for the power of his oratory. Another way of saying that is to note that he was a gifted artist whose medium was slander, and he found his canvases in Supreme Court nominees Robert Bork and Clarence Thomas. Powerful a speaker as he was, it is not clear that Senator Kennedy's rhetoric was powerful enough to sway the hardest hearts, including his own. Consider this: "Wanted or unwanted, I believe that human life, even at its earliest stages, has certain right which must be recognized the right to be born, the right to love, the right to grow old." A beautiful sentiment, beautifully expressed and callously ignored when the political winds changed and he felt himself compelled to denounce the "back-alley abortions" that would be necessitated in "Robert Bork's America." Like many of the most powerful Democrats Jesse Jackson and Al Gore come to mind Senator Kennedy left behind his pro-life convictions when they became a political burden. This is an especially painful failing in Kennedy, whose family has traded on its Catholicism so profitably.
He was a man of intense personal charisma, and he needed all of it. After a Good Friday drinking bout with the Kennedy boys ended in rape accusations against his nephew, William Kennedy Smith, the man who fancied himself the liberal conscience of the Senate found himself described in the formerly friendly pages of Time magazine as a "Palm Beach boozer, lout, and tabloid grotesque." He seems to have found a rock in his late-life marriage to his second wife, Victoria. Senator Kennedy promised to reform himself and acknowledged that, "I am painfully aware that the criticism directed at me in recent months involves far more than disagreements with my positions. . . . I recognize my own shortcomings, and the faults in the conduct of my private life. I realize that I alone am responsible for them, and I am the one who must confront them."
His brother, President Kennedy, became a national icon because his untimely death invited the question of what he might have been. Senator Kennedy, much longer lived, also invites the question of what he might have been. Driven to do good, he could not, because he was hostage to his own defects, personal and ideological. His best impulses deserve to survive him; his worst ideas and legislative agenda do not. RIP Edward M. Kennedy, 19322009: May he encounter the divine mercy that both the greatest and the least of us will require at the end.


Link (http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=112282922)

[WB9YZU]

An NPR eulogy:



Link (http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=112282922)

If your going to quote a source, atleast get the source right.
The source is NRO (National Review Online), not NPR.

Ron

[ECKSJAY]

If your going to quote a source, atleast get the source right.
The source is NRO (National Review Online), not NPR.

Ron

JESUS Darky, can't you get anything right? :doh:

[WB9YZU]

JESUS Darky, can't you get anything right? :doh:

HEHE...

Ron

[DrMoab]

I have to agree with an earlier poster...I wouldn't wish that kind of death on anyone....wait what am I saying? hahahahahaha. I didn't hear about this until today but it made a bad day a lot better. Good riddance.

[stewie]

may he rest in pieces

[XJEEPER]

Ted should be remembered for the examples that he set........he's no American hero. Those that praise him as such are either ignorant or of the same character. Likely politicians.

[Darky]

If your going to quote a source, atleast get the source right.
The source is NRO (National Review Online), not NPR.

Ron
http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=112282922

Note the url...www.npr.org....


:D Never doubt the Darky!

[IslanderOffRoad]

good riddance

[8Mud]

I wouldn't wish anybody dead, but some I'll miss less than others.

[WB9YZU]

http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=112282922

Note the url...www.npr (http://www.<b>npr</b>).org....


:D Never doubt the Darky!

Maybe you didn't read this part...


Partner content from:http://media.npr.org/chrome/ext_provider_102796548.gif (http://www.nationalreview.com/)

National Review Online: Kennedy, Unsentimentally

by The Editors The National Review Online

Ron

[ECKSJAY]

Partner content from:

Still published by NPR.

[planefixer]

Good riddance.:sunshine:

:party::party:

[Darky]

I wouldn't wish anybody dead, but some I'll miss less than others.
I can agree with you on this one. :cheers:

[goodburbon]

This:
I wouldn't wish anybody dead, but some I'll miss less than others.


I didn't want him dead, I just wanted him out of a position where his opinions and views had an effect on my way of life. He wouldn't leave on his own, and the people in Mass. are like "ooh look a kennedy, let's vote for him". Therefore his death was the only thing that made him no longer a menace.

[Hackmeister]

http://i183.photobucket.com/albums/x57/UrsusMorologus/ussteddy.jpg

[JNickel101]

Goodburbon, you forgot "ally to the Soviets"

http://boortz.com/nealz_nuze/2009/08/yeah-that-kennedy-was-an-absol.html

Good riddance Ted...

EDIT: looks like I posted this before reading the whole thread. Another similar link was already posted. Oh well. Worth posting twice...

[Boatwrench]

I don't tell people in other states or districts who to vote for or not to vote for. It is their business, this is an elected representative government. For someone who is so disliked here among our more conservative members Senator Kennedy sure got a lot of praise from both sides of the aisle.

May his soul and the souls of all the faithfully departed rest in peace.

[tbburg]

I don't tell people in other states or districts who to vote for or not to vote for. It is their business, this is an elected representative government.Regardless of who voted him in and where, he made decisions that affect us all. So yes, they do have the right to complain if they don't like his agenda. Few of us here voted for Nancy Pelosi. Should we just keep quiet if she has a hand in land closures throughout the country?

The good news: He will no longer be directly effecting legislation.(although his name will continue to be slung around for the next couple years)

[ECKSJAY]

I don't tell people in other states or districts who to vote for or not to vote for. It is their business, this is an elected representative government. For someone who is so disliked here among our more conservative members Senator Kennedy sure got a lot of praise from both sides of the aisle.

May his soul and the souls of all the faithfully departed rest in peace.

That's because politicians are worthless trash anyway.

[AIbandit]

Hooah

[Curtis_H]

I was just surprised it was his brain and not his liver, or a bullet. Don't care how it happened, just glad he's out of the picture.

[Hammered]

Who's Ted Kennedy?

[IslanderOffRoad]

I was just surprised it was his brain and not his liver, or a bullet. Don't care how it happened, just glad he's out of the picture.

Yeah I didn't think the Kennedys had the required equipment for that.

[XJEEPER]

A large military spending bill moving through Congress contains a little-noticed outlay for Boston that has nothing to do with national defense: $20 million for an educational institute honoring late Senator Edward M. Kennedy of Massachusetts.

“Whatever beneficial value civic education may have, it’s hard to see why the Defense Department should pay for it,’’ said Laura Peterson, a senior policy analyst at the nonpartisan Taxpayers for Common Sense in Washington. “It would seem the location of this hefty earmark has more to do with the powerful position of its sponsor than [the Defense Department’s] responsibility to educate elementary school children.’’

http://www.boston.com/news/nation/washington/articles/2009/09/25/watchdog_groups_rap_20m_earmark_for_kennedy_instit ute/

I'd pay $100 to never have to hear the name Ted Kennedy again........wonder what my cut is going to be to help build a memorial for someone who I have no respect for and object to all of his policies?

[ECKSJAY]

Cool, something to tear down and burn during the next Revolution. :smoker:

[JNickel101]

The entire city of Chicago isn't enough for you?

[IslanderOffRoad]

I'd like to congratulate Ted Kennedy on 6 weeks of sobriety.

[ECKSJAY]

I'd like to congratulate Ted Kennedy on 6 weeks of sobriety.

:laugh:

[wolfpackjeeper]

I'd like to congratulate Ted Kennedy on 6 weeks of sobriety.

nice