Minimum Requirements

[HaleYes]

I'm posting this now so, you'll not have any excuses. You've got plenty of time to get all of this lined out! :D

Make 200% sure that you and your rig meet the below requirements. Yes, it will be checked and enforced.
If you have everything but a fire extinguisher.........don't bother showing up. It's been the MWC experiences that a fire extinguisher is a good thing to have on board. :flame:

Again, all of these items will be checked.



Per :NAXJA: Bylaws:



Section 3: Required Equipment for Event Participation
:NAXJA: VERY HIGHLY recommends that all event participants have a CB Radio.
:NAXJA: requires all listed items to be present, and available for use, for a vehicle to be permitted to participate in a event. Participants are expected to stow equipment and all other items within their vehicle in a safe manner, conscious of the effects of OHV use and possible shifting of items.
:NAXJA: Safety Inspectors will use this list for safety inspections prior to any event. The Safety Inspector has final say in approval or rejection of any vehicle for event participation and may at anytime defer to a second event or club officer for additional ruling.
:NAXJA: expects each event participant to carry insurance and registration sufficient to meet the legal requirements of their vehicle state of residence and for the roads and trails traveled for the event. :NAXJA: is not responsible for assuring an entrant's vehicle is legal for the roads and trails traveled in the event.
Equipment List
Visibly charged fire extinguisher (BC or ABC)
First aid kit
Adequate spare tire, jack and lug wrench
Safety belts for driver and any current passenger
Adequate attachment points in the front and rear of the vehicle:
Acceptable forms of attachment points: (All Items must be mounted in a manner to provide adequate strength and integrity)
Tow hooks of OEM or greater integrity
D-Rings
Shackle/Clevis

20ft 10,000lb snatch strap without any metal hooks
Secured battery (no bungee cords)
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[XJ&CHZ4ME]

I am going to follow this up with TRAIL requirements. If you choose to partake in the trail runs on Saturday, please read this.

After you have passed tech check in, you need to make sure that your rig is equipped with the required equipment as per your trail leader/gunner for the group you want to run with. These individuals have pre-ran the trails in advance to make sure things will go as smoothly as possible. They, the leader/gunner, have set the limits on tire size, lockers, etc to help make it a safe and enjoyable trip for all of those involved. If you do not have the required equipment, you will need to go with another group. Please do not try and justify/argue your rigs abilites to the people doing the tech check, it is nothing personal against you or your rigs ability. Each trail leader/gunner has their own way of contending to this and it is up to them. Please remember we are all out there to have a good time and by no means is anyone trying to be a jerk or keep people from wheeling. If you want to run a certain trail and the trail leader/gunner have set limitations that exclude your rig, that does not mean that you can not wheel it on your own, just simply not in that particular group. Winterfest is an outstanding time and an event that you don't want to miss! And as I was once told..... Winterfest is not about the wheeling but rather the opportunity to gather with fellow wheelers and enjoy the fellowship. ( :cheers: OK, so that is the PG version :D )

Can't wait to see some old faces as well as meet some new ones :thumbup:

Cheeseman-OUT!

[HaleYes]

Very well put Tyler! Thanks!

:thumbup:

[poorboy87]

Equipment List

Visibly charged fire extinguisher (BC or ABC)
First aid kit
Adequate spare tire, jack and lug wrench
Safety belts for driver and any current passenger
Adequate attachment points in the front and rear of the vehicle:
Acceptable forms of attachment points: (All Items must be mounted in a manner to provide adequate strength and integrity)
Tow hooks of OEM or greater integrity
D-Rings
Shackle/Clevis

20ft 10,000lb snatch strap without any metal hooks
Secured battery (no bungee cords)



Would the factory jack be sufficient or are you looking for the Hi Lift etc?

[FlexdXJ]

Also, a CB makes things so much easier. Make sure it works, I didn't at WF 09 and it was a PITA for sure! You can get a decent setup for under 80 bucks!

[Rev Den]

Would the factory jack be sufficient or are you looking for the Hi Lift etc?

The jack must be able to lift your rig, to remove a tire, on flat ground.

Rev

[HaleYes]

I am going to follow this up with TRAIL requirements. If you choose to partake in the trail runs on Saturday, please read this.

After you have passed tech check in, you need to make sure that your rig is equipped with the required equipment as per your trail leader/gunner for the group you want to run with. These individuals have pre-ran the trails in advance to make sure things will go as smoothly as possible. They, the leader/gunner, have set the limits on tire size, lockers, etc to help make it a safe and enjoyable trip for all of those involved. If you do not have the required equipment, you will need to go with another group. Please do not try and justify/argue your rigs abilites to the people doing the tech check, it is nothing personal against you or your rigs ability. Each trail leader/gunner has their own way of contending to this and it is up to them. Please remember we are all out there to have a good time and by no means is anyone trying to be a jerk or keep people from wheeling. If you want to run a certain trail and the trail leader/gunner have set limitations that exclude your rig, that does not mean that you can not wheel it on your own, just simply not in that particular group. Winterfest is an outstanding time and an event that you don't want to miss! And as I was once told..... Winterfest is not about the wheeling but rather the opportunity to gather with fellow wheelers and enjoy the fellowship. ( :cheers: OK, so that is the PG version :D )

Can't wait to see some old faces as well as meet some new ones :thumbup:

Cheeseman-OUT!
...to add to this:

Pre-runs will be just that...........pre-runs. We want to cover as much ground as possible with the pre-runs. We want to be able to get through and get a very good understanding as to what the full group will see as far as trail conditions are concerned. In order for this to happen, the pre-run group needs to be small. I'd say 4 rugs at the extreme most. Leader, gunner are gimmies and a couple of others if the leader is OK with it. In the past, we've ended up with groups of 10 or more. It'd be much more efficient to have smaller groups for the pre-runs.

[XJ&CHZ4ME]

...to add to this:

Pre-runs will be just that...........pre-runs. We want to cover as much ground as possible with the pre-runs. We want to be able to get through and get a very good understanding as to what the full group will see as far as trail conditions are concerned. In order for this to happen, the pre-run group needs to be small. I'd say 4 rugs at the extreme most. Leader, gunner are gimmies and a couple of others if the leader is OK with it. In the past, we've ended up with groups of 10 or more. It'd be much more efficient to have smaller groups for the pre-runs.

Well put Mike. As you said, it is for getting a feel for the trail and what obsticles it will present. Last year when I was gunning for Sean, we kept it as a small group (3 or 4 I think) and got through just fine. Attendees please keep in mind that Saturday are the official trail runs, not Friday. On Friday when the trail leaders/gunners are going out to inspect the trails please keep in mind that they are not trying to "discount" you, they are simply just doing their job and need to take all things into account for the safety of the groups that will be wheeling on Saturday. So, if your there on Friday and want to wheel, feel free to wheel on your own (or with a group) but please let the trail leaders/gunners do their jobs. Thanks, and plan on having a good time..because you will...

Cheeseman-OUT!

[WI88XJ]

...to add to this:

Pre-runs will be just that...........pre-runs. In order for this to happen, the pre-run group needs to be small. I'd say 4 rugs at the extreme most. Leader, gunner are gimmies and a couple of others if the leader is OK with it. .

So...
Has it been decided yet as to what type of rugs will be allowed? Throw rugs? Full room rugs? Head rugs (toupee)? :):):):)

[XJ&CHZ4ME]

Persain, like the kitty...

[HaleYes]

Back to bold for the new crowd......

If you don't have your tow points yet..........ask Santa.:eyes:

[Rev Den]

Might as well say this now.....

If you don't have these minimum requirements, you will not run with us.

We will all feel bad that you drove there, and paid your bucks, but we will not "look the other way", but we will wave as we pull out to the trails.

If you have ANY doubts about what you have, what you need, or if you have what you need, PM me NOW.

Rev

[IllianaXJ]

If you need help installing items before tech inspection, there will be people more than willing to assist on Friday during the day or Saturday morning. Just ask. I would rather be late to the trails and help someone get their rig ready than be first in line to wheel.

[XJ&CHZ4ME]

X2 Byron...and as some know, I travel with a plethora of tools and would be more then willing to help. (yes, I said plethora, and no, "tools" was not refering to the company I keep! :D )

[99SJ_Ex]

And for a seconed Tyler I thought you left yourself wide open.... :)

I carried a 200lb toolbox in back last yr... not doing it again, but am still bring the the tools that are rather important...

[FlexdXJ]

Even If I'm on Street Tires I'll be there. But If I do have to buy a stocker I have some BFG AT's for it. :D I would strongly recommend a Working CB as well.

[woody431]

Im interested in running orange in oh-ten...whats the suggested equipment for those trails, I cant remember from last year

[Rev Den]

Depends.

The is left up to the trail leader after the pre-run on Friday. Orange can be easy or impossible, depends on the weather.

Going on past experience, and this is NOT a guarantee, at least 1 locker, mud tires, and a willingness to accept some damage.

Rev

[bmyohn]

Depends.

The is left up to the trail leader after the pre-run on Friday. Orange can be easy or impossible, depends on the weather.

Going on past experience, and this is NOT a guarantee, at least 1 locker, mud tires, and a willingness to accept some damage.

Rev


ive run parts of it.

would you say its worse than trail #21 at redbird?

[HaleYes]

ive run parts of it.

would you say its worse than trail #21 at redbird?

Depending on the weather.......it can be.



This discussion about what trail requirements will be is really a moot point in all reality. Trail requirements will be announced the day of the event.

[Menzenski]

I have a tow hook question:

I bought a pair of rear two hooks from 4x4trailhunters.com a few years ago (this vendor is now non-existant, it seems) for my first XJ, and only ever installed one (the driver's side one). I plan on installing the leftover passenger-side one on my new XJ and using that as my rear tow point at Winterfest. It seems not many people have seen this tow hook and I thought I would ask about it now just to be safe.

Unfortunately I can't find any pictures (and haven't installed mine yet), but it's an L-shaped bracket that goes under the framerail and ties into the rear crossmember as well as a nutsert that fits into the framerail. There are five bolts attaching it and both pieces are 1/4" thick.

Is there any reason why the MWC would find this not appropriate? I will get pictures up when I actually install the thing, if necessary.

And the one I had mounted to my first XJ passed tech inspection at NAXJA's 2006 NAC-Fest, and held up to several pulls without budging.

[XJ Stryker]

I have seen them used before and they should be aceptable. I see no reason why it would not be allowed. But then again I am not doing the tech inspection.

[Rev Den]

Sounds solid.

I see no issue.

Rev

[woody431]

Depends.

The is left up to the trail leader after the pre-run on Friday. Orange can be easy or impossible, depends on the weather.

Going on past experience, and this is NOT a guarantee, at least 1 locker, mud tires, and a willingness to accept some damage.

Rev


Cool sounds good to me. Chicks dig body damage anyways, right? lol

[macgyvr]

Depends.

The is left up to the trail leader after the pre-run on Friday. Orange can be easy or impossible, depends on the weather.

Going on past experience, and this is NOT a guarantee, at least 1 locker, mud tires, and a willingness to accept some damage.

Rev

These past two weekends it was so wet that I wouldn't let a cherokee down orange without at least 32s, 33s would be better and one locker...its a muddy, muddy, muddy mess right now...but in 2.5 months it could be completely dry (highly doubt it)...there was deep water in places I had never seen water before...like they said it all depends on the weather conditions...

mac 'finally found the "true" trail head for orange last weekend' gyvr

[IllianaXJ]

It'll still be a muddy, muddy mess, but with a thin layer of ice on top :D

[Rev Den]

It'll still be a muddy, muddy mess, but with a thin layer of ice on top :D

Which is why we cannot set trail requirements till after the pre-runs.

Rev

[poorboy87]

Will a class one reciever hitch be sufficient enough for a rear tow point?

[Rev Den]

Maybe.

It needs to tie to the frame, not just the bumper. It also needs to be fitted with the correct sized hook or shackle so that a strap may be attached to it.

It would be FAR from the preferred 2" receiver...but it will work, barely.

Rev

[sirjeep75]

im not yet a paid naxja member but used to have a xj with a account and recently got a new one and been building it. i plan on starting a membership soon. Ive been to the badlands a few times before, mostly went to the cliffs tho i was wondering if i start a member ship if i can join the group for winterfest?! let me kno thank you Brian!

[FlexdXJ]

im not yet a paid naxja member but used to have a xj with a account and recently got a new one and been building it. i plan on starting a membership soon. Ive been to the badlands a few times before, mostly went to the cliffs tho i was wondering if i start a member ship if i can join the group for winterfest?! let me kno thank you Brian!
YOu can come to WF while being a forum user. It was 30 bucks IIRC last year. We'd be glad to have you as long as you meet the safety requirements!

[XJ&CHZ4ME]

Hey Brian, you dont have to be a paid member to come to Winterfest. You will be required to meet all the safety requirements that everyone else does as well as pay the reistration for the event and associated park fees. As much as we would love to see you be a paying member of NAXJA, it is not currently a requirement to attend Winterfest. Hope to see you there!

[sirjeep75]

Thanx alot guys i will definitely be there then thank you for the information itll be nice to meet every one you guys seem like a good group. i will be sure to meet all requirements. im pumped thanx guys!!!

[SC Rednek]

you guys seem like a good group.

He definitely hasn't met y'all yet!

[FlexdXJ]

He definitely hasn't met y'all yet!


Like you are much better! :rolleyes:

[poorboy87]

Maybe.

It needs to tie to the frame, not just the bumper. It also needs to be fitted with the correct sized hook or shackle so that a strap may be attached to it.

It would be FAR from the preferred 2" receiver...but it will work, barely.

Rev

Its a reese style just has a 1" reciever. I will make sure its tied into the frame when I bolt it up.

[HaleYes]

IIRC, I squeezed through Rev's Tech Inspection with a class I reciever @ my first WF.

[GRIMUS99XJ]

hey man whatever you squeeze through Rev is you business we do not want to know

[FlexdXJ]

hey man whatever you squeeze through Rev is you business we do not want to know


That deserves an OH SNAP! :D

[discosteve]

i dont have front "tow hooks". but i do have a full tube bumper that has brackets going abt 10" up the unibody and is held in with grade 8 bolts. ive always used it to pull/get pulled and its done just fine. will that pass?

[FlexdXJ]

i dont have front "tow hooks". but i do have a full tube bumper that has brackets going abt 10" up the unibody and is held in with grade 8 bolts. ive always used it to pull/get pulled and its done just fine. will that pass?


That could be ok but does it have d-ring mounts or anything like that?

[discosteve]

http://i772.photobucket.com/albums/yy2/nappyxj/bumper.jpg

this is it. its pretty solid. but i just want to make sure i can get past tech inspection.

[Rev Den]

As long as it is as you say, it will pass.

Rev

[IllianaXJ]

How do you attach a strap to it?

[Rev Den]

Assuming you can wrap it around a tube.

Rev

[discosteve]

i have holes to bolt on hooks. i dont have a strap, im gonna get one. ive always used a chain with hooks on it and wrapped it around the tube.

[FlexdXJ]

CHAIN?! No, no, no, not good. Go to the tractor supply or Rural king and get you a couple hooks and a Keeper strap!

[IllianaXJ]

Sigh.

Equipment List

Visibly charged fire extinguisher (BC or ABC)
First aid kit
Adequate spare tire, jack and lug wrench
Safety belts for driver and any current passenger
Adequate attachment points in the front and rear of the vehicle:

Acceptable forms of attachment points: (All Items must be mounted in a manner to provide adequate strength and integrity)
Tow hooks of OEM or greater integrity
D-Rings
Shackle/Clevis


20ft 10,000lb snatch strap without any metal hooks
Secured battery (no bungee cords)

__________________


I strongly advise against chain as well. It has it's place, but not at WF.

[discosteve]

i know chains are bad. but its all ive had til now. sheesh.

[XJRN]

Spare tire question:

If my spare (not a donut, can' remember size...slightly larger than stock) is smaller than my tires (31's) would this cause any problems?

[XJosh95]

As long as you have open carriers, you'll be fine. If you're locked, your tires have to be the same circumference give or take a specified amout. I believe with my Aussie it's 3/8" tolerence. I figure if I have a flat in the front, I'll throw one of my rears up to match becaue my spare is also a different size.

[XJRN]

Great. Thanks! I am open, so no worries.

[XJ&CHZ4ME]

Spare tire question:

If my spare (not a donut, can' remember size...slightly larger than stock) is smaller than my tires (31's) would this cause any problems?


As long as your spare can get you and your rig safely off the trail it should be adequate.

[IllianaXJ]

As long as your spare can get you and your rig safely off the trail it should be adequate.

Along with this, please make sure your spare has air in it. A lot of people carry OBA or CO2, but still.

[95' heep]

Where do you recommend to buy fire extinguisher ABC from? I am in need of them and dont know where to buy good ones for the price.

[HaleYes]

Where do you recommend to buy fire extinguisher ABC from? I am in need of them and dont know where to buy good ones for the price.



WalMart has some priced reasonable.

[FlexdXJ]

WalMart has some priced reasonable.

IIRC mine was 12 bucks!

[95' heep]

IIRC mine was 12 bucks!


but they do work? I dont want to find that they dont work when I find that my spare tire's on fire on top of the gas tank and the fire extinguisher just mada a puff of white cloud then I am running away as the XJ go :explosion

[chaz_88_MJ]

you can get them just about any where....walmart, napa, tractor store, truck stop...

[Rev Den]

Just make sure it has a gauge.

Rev

[FlexdXJ]

but they do work? I dont want to find that they dont work when I find that my spare tire's on fire on top of the gas tank and the fire extinguisher just mada a puff of white cloud then I am running away as the XJ go :explosion

I don't know if it works or not. Thankfully i haven't had to use it!

[Rev Den]

First:
You must have a visibly charged fire extinguisher.
Second:
The reason is to help contain a fire so you can get away.
Third:
Trust me when I tell you that in this chapter, EVERYONE will have a charged unit within easy reach, and come running.

Rev

[IllianaXJ]

Just ask Les.

[FlexdXJ]

Just ask Les.


Thats the reason I bought one, that did not turn out good!