Need 91' FSM...i'll buy it

[DrRandy]

********SORRY Thread title should say "Need 91' FSM i'll buy it"***********

Some of you might remember my electrical issue...Engine control fuse blows. The stupid d*mm, shi%ty 30 amp fuse in the PDC. This fuse has blown ONLY on the trail and on a steep incline while climbing. Of course while climbing the engine is under a good amount of load...maybe alot of load. dont really know yet if it's the load or the angle causing a short, angle maybe rubbing a wire just right (OR WRONG!!). I'm really just getting into it tonight.

Anyway...enough of my rant. I'll fix it...i like electrical, just no shorts! I need an FSM for a 91, who sells them here? I think i remember someone saying there's a guy/company here that sells them?

Later....back to searching

[Stallacrew]

I have an 1989 you can borrow for free, but I need it back when you are done.

I know it's a RENIX, but maybe it'll have something that can help.

PM me if you need it.

[Shorty]

********SORRY Thread title should say "Need 91' FSM i'll buy it"**********Anyway....i like electrical, just no shorts! I need an FSM for a 91

I'm beginning my search for the same F.S.M.- I'll let you know where I find it- or if you find it first, lemme know!!

and for the love of God, please wear shorts!

[DrRandy]

I'm beginning my search for the same F.S.M.- I'll let you know where I find it- or if you find it first, lemme know!!

and for the love of God, please wear shorts!

I'll do it...thanks man

[PacificEd]

I found a place on eBay that sells factory authorized reprints of the original service manuals. The name of the company is Bishko. I think they are around $90 for a new printing.

[5-90]

I have an 1989 you can borrow for free, but I need it back when you are done.

I know it's a RENIX, but maybe it'll have something that can help.

PM me if you need it.

Won't fly - too different. At least your heart's in the right place!:kissyou:

[dave92cherokee]

I thought the 91 was still a renix as the 92 was the first year of the HO engine.

[5-90]

I thought the 91 was still a renix as the 92 was the first year of the HO engine.

Nope - the first year for HO was 1991, when they switched from RENIX to ChryCo OBD-I (a step backwards, y'ask me...)

[DrRandy]

Good info above....thanks 5-90, Yea i'll check out the ebay deal and do some google'n
and find one....i'll let you know where and how much.

Thanks guys

[DrRandy]

I have an 1989 you can borrow for free, but I need it back when you are done.

I know it's a RENIX, but maybe it'll have something that can help.

PM me if you need it.

Thanks...i got my hands on a 93 from a guy here. I'll let you know if needed...thanks again

[DrRandy]

Won't fly - too different. At least your heart's in the right place!:kissyou:

How about a 93'?? A buddy of mine said i could borrow his.

thanks

[5-90]

How about a 93'?? A buddy of mine said i could borrow his.

thanks

1993 is OBD-I as well, so you'll be fine. The brackets are 1984-1986 (earliest,) 1987-1990 (RENIX, with a small break 1988/1989,) 1991-1995 (OBD-I,) 1996 (first year OBD-II, last year old body style,) 1997-1999 (OBD-II with distributor,) 2000-2001 (OBD-II with COP/DIS.)

There are some strictly nominal changes from year to year, but nothing you shouldn't be able to sort out.

[DrRandy]

1993 is OBD-I as well, so you'll be fine. The brackets are 1984-1986 (earliest,) 1987-1990 (RENIX, with a small break 1988/1989,) 1991-1995 (OBD-I,) 1996 (first year OBD-II, last year old body style,) 1997-1999 (OBD-II with distributor,) 2000-2001 (OBD-II with COP/DIS.)

There are some strictly nominal changes from year to year, but nothing you shouldn't be able to sort out.

You da' man! Thanks!!
BTW: where would you start if your XJ blew the engine control fuse (30 amp Maxi under the hood) ONLY on the trails and ONLY on a hill climb?? My motor mounts were shot...replaced them last night. Should help keep thing "still" a bit under torque?

thanks 5-90

[hightime81]

[Editted by Administrator] NO.

Read the sticky about FSMs at the top of the forum. That includes what you posted.

[thechief86]

fsm= flying spaghetti monster?
many have been touched by his noodly appendage.

[5-90]

You da' man! Thanks!!
BTW: where would you start if your XJ blew the engine control fuse (30 amp Maxi under the hood) ONLY on the trails and ONLY on a hill climb?? My motor mounts were shot...replaced them last night. Should help keep thing "still" a bit under torque?

thanks 5-90

Oddly, I'd look for a wiring fault first. You may have a "skinned" wire causing you trouble - so start with a visual inspection.

That's my first impression, anyhow. The hill climb means you're going to have things shifting back, and being on-trail means there's going to be a bit of bumping around to "encourage" things to shift backwards.

[DrRandy]

i'll give it a try. I'll keep you guys posted

Thanks man

[DrRandy]

FIXED!!!! I replaced motor mounts (I think this had alot to do with it, THEY WERE SHOT maybe the motor twisting under torque going up hills and pinching wires), cleaned some contacts/connectors, zip tied wires back. I went out Sunday afternoon and hit a few hills climbs SO FAR SO GOOD!!

Maybe this will help someone. Chuckstr PT...Thanks for the tow...i'll get you back....one day...i bet (hope not!)

Thanks to all for the help to all

[Onyx Dragon]

1993 is OBD-I as well, so you'll be fine. The brackets are 1984-1986 (earliest,) 1987-1990 (RENIX, with a small break 1988/1989,) 1991-1995 (OBD-I,) 1996 (first year OBD-II, last year old body style,) 1997-1999 (OBD-II with distributor,) 2000-2001 (OBD-II with COP/DIS.)

There are some strictly nominal changes from year to year, but nothing you shouldn't be able to sort out.

If I'm not mistaken, 1995 was a split run. I have a 1995, and the dealership asks me if it's OBD-I or II because I went in there looking for a part (forget what off hand) and was informed that they did a split that year between OBDI and OBDII

[5-90]

If I'm not mistaken, 1995 was a split run. I have a 1995, and the dealership asks me if it's OBD-I or II because I went in there looking for a part (forget what off hand) and was informed that they did a split that year between OBDI and OBDII

Hm. Got a source? I only ask because just about everyting I've seen to date shows 1996 as the "official" roll-out year for OBD-II industrywide. I'd think it more likely that some very early 1996 models could be OBD-I than some late 1995 could be OBD-II...

Perhaps anyone with a 1995 with an OBD-II diagnostic port could chime in?

[DrRandy]

Just thought i'd post back up and let you all know...STILL GOOD after 8-9 months