The Great Diesel Debate!

[FiFo]

Background:

For those of you that missed the Noob run at Tahuya, here is a little back ground. Two faithful NAXJA members, who’s screen names escape me, but they know who they are, had a discussion on whether or not there was ever a Diesel engine put in an MJ/XJ and sold in the North American market. Naturally since we take our XJ/MJ knowledge very serious here in the NW so bets where made.

Challenge:

So with out further ado, we need your combined MJ/XJ knowledge. Post any and all knowledge you have on whether an MJ/XJ was ever sold in the North American market with a Diesel engine installed from the factory. Oh, and Canada doesn't count, it has to be USA, sorry Canadian drivers, but that was the bet.

[FiFo]

As a member of the “Yes they did” camp I submit the following.

Jeep did in fact sale a Diesel XJ/MJ in the USA, from 85-87 they where available with a Renault 2.1l 4cyl. Turbo Diesel making a whopping 85 hp @ 3750 rpm and 132 ft. lb. @ 2750 rpm. I have an FAQ I copied from on the web where I got this, but I can’t find the link now. Best I got is this:

http://www.vectorbd.com/peugeot/archive/505/2006/Aug/0017.html

[IXNAYXJ]

Well, as painful as it is for me to admit, I think I was wrong. I know, I know, it's hard to believe, but there's a first time for everything. It looks like I'm out 20 bucks. I've still never seen one, but it does seem like there was indeed a diesel offered in MJs.

Can anyone post a pic if they find one?

:dunce:

-----Matt-----

[FiFo]

Well, as painful as it is for me to admit, I think I was wrong. I know, I know, it's hard to believe, but there's a first time for everything. It looks like I'm out 20 bucks. I've still never seen one, but it does seem like there was indeed a diesel offered in MJs.

Can anyone post a pic if they find one?

:dunce:

-----Matt-----

LOL, it's not much of a debate if you just admite that your wrong!

If someone could post a pic or personal experiance it would be cool though. I've never actually seen one and though engine sounds like a dog, a diesel powered XJ does sound kind of cool to me.

[Slacker87XJ]

Pfft, in ALASKA, MJs came with these from the factory:

http://people.bath.ac.uk/ccsshb/12cyl/

:roflmao: :roflmao: :roflmao:

-i

[CanMan]

I PM'd Matt last night, I found the info here. Good thing I didn't get on in that bet.

http://comanchemj.1hwy.com/index.html

Look through the site, you will find the info.

Heres one, but no engine pic.

http://www.jeep-classifieds.com/12335_jeep-ad.html

[T&A-XJ]

JEEP COMANCHE, '86 diesel, 4x4, not running, rebuilt transmission & transfer case, new tires, & paint, with canopy, nice condition, BIO/WVO extra tank, $2000 obo. 509-254-3094. WallaWalla.

Found that in the Nickel saver this last weekend... not trying to advertise just thought ide share

[FiFo]

Pfft, in ALASKA, MJs came with these from the factory:

http://people.bath.ac.uk/ccsshb/12cyl/

:roflmao: :roflmao: :roflmao:

-i

lol, I need one of these in a tow rig.

[goblazers_6]

Looks like I'm $20 richer and I didnt even have to be the one to grab a link.
Well Matt (IXNAYXY) you owe this Comanche owner some money.

Besides winning that money I had a great time cant wait til I can make it to another run, not just for the check, but for the wheeling.

[IXNAYXJ]

Blah, blah, blah.... So when are you going to collect? Evans Creek in two weeks? ;)

-----Matt-----

[goblazers_6]

Can't make it to that one I've gotta work, but I'll make Browns Camp......

...dont quote me on that.

[XJLaredo]

So you win $20.
How much danage did it cost you when Matt made you go back down the hill and take the far left route at the end of our run Sunday?:D

Maybe none, but you sure bounced around pretty good from my view at the bottom.

[Dvipercop]

...I was wrong.

Now there's a line worthy of being in my sig! :D

[IXNAYXJ]

How much damage did it cost you when Matt made you not be a Sally and go back down the hill and take the far left route at the end of our run Sunday?That's better. :shhh:

-----Matt-----

[goblazers_6]

Damage, none really, well my steering wheel is now 90* to the left, but no problems or vibrations on my 200 mile drive home. so i'm ok, and definitly not a sally

[FiFo]

So you win $20.
How much danage did it cost you when Matt made you go back down the hill and take the far left route at the end of our run Sunday?:D

Maybe none, but you sure bounced around pretty good from my view at the bottom.

He was bouncing around preity good from out view at the top too.

Best was the stock Mazda who couldn't make it up the left way, tried the middle and couldn't make it up that way either. Finally had to take the total "rip off my balls now, I don't need them" far right practicly pathed way. All the while Mat standing there egging him on to get him to try the harder roughts.

Ah good times.

[IXNAYXJ]

He was bouncing around preity good from out view at the top too.

Best was the stock Mazda who couldn't make it up the left way, tried the middle and couldn't make it up that way either. Finally had to take the total "rip off my balls now, I don't need them" far right practicly pathed way. All the while Matt standing there egging him on to get him to try the harder roughts.

Ah good times.It was a Nissan, but yeah, that was awesome.

:D

-----Matt-----

[Slacker87XJ]

Now there's a line worthy of being in my sig! :D

:cheers:

[Blkxjkrawler]

Pfft, in ALASKA, MJs came with these from the factory:

http://people.bath.ac.uk/ccsshb/12cyl/

:roflmao: :roflmao: :roflmao:

-i

yeah but in ALASKA they needed them to turn the 340 inch tires while outrunning 20,000 pound bears through 6 mile deep snowdrifts. Right Ian?

[FiFo]

yeah but in ALASKA they needed them to turn the 340 inch tires while outrunning 20,000 pound bears through 6 mile deep snowdrifts. Right Ian?

I just wish Warn sold the 90,000 Ton winch that they sale in Alaska down here in the lower 48. Those Alaskians get all the breaks.

[CanMan]

I should move to Alaska, so the buldge in my pants gets bigger. :D

But, so do the wemon, so nevermind. :puke:

[GreenbeltXJ]

He was bouncing around preity good from out view at the top too.

Best was the stock Mazda who couldn't make it up the left way, tried the middle and couldn't make it up that way either. Finally had to take the total "rip off my balls now, I don't need them" far right practicly pathed way. All the while Mat standing there egging him on to get him to try the harder roughts.

Ah good times.

http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f39/fzabolla/112201828_360506790_0.jpg

thats him flying up the hill, just before that his tires were off the ground:scared:

[XJLaredo]

I didn't get to find out who everyone was by forum name, what rig was yours GreenbeltXJ?

Jamez.

[CanMan]

I didn't get to find out who everyone was by forum name, what rig was yours GreenbeltXJ?

Jamez.

The black Chevy S10. His rig is in pieces.

[GreenbeltXJ]

this is what i wish i had been in, but like eli said its is in pieces.
http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f39/fzabolla/jeep/88682163_280869707_0.jpghttp://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f39/fzabolla/jeep/88682098_280869497_0.jpg

[Slacker87XJ]

yeah but in ALASKA they needed them to turn the 340 inch tires while outrunning 20,000 pound bears through 6 mile deep snowdrifts...

.. uphill both ways.

Now get off my damn lawn you kids! :viking:

[goblazers_6]

finally a pic of me on here. lol, damn thats a nice mj.

[dellstopjeep]

we had solid death wobble for 3 hours home plus being lost bremerton. and only one head light in the dark pointing up and way left. but that guy i chose to ride with ben jengles somehow didnt break it.
from this trip i have learned never to own a nissan, full size cherokees get hung up on everything and never sleep under a tarp in piss down rain.

[BPB]

like I tell everyone these things are tough. The interior is starting to mold again after getting so wet camping, I am going to have to gut it. By the way, I never did get pulled over, 200 miles, one headlight, no mirors, tires that stick out 4". I got lucky.

[KarlVP]

He was bouncing around preity good from out view at the top too.

Best was the stock Mazda who couldn't make it up the left way, tried the middle and couldn't make it up that way either. Finally had to take the total "rip off my balls now, I don't need them" far right practicly pathed way. All the while Mat standing there egging him on to get him to try the harder roughts.

Ah good times.

I seem to recall a certain gentleman. This individual followed me through the Weed out the S**T trail at Reiter in his stock Ford Ranger Pickup.

Ask him about "the dent"

I'm not going to name any names but it rhymes with *cough* FiFo *cough*

http://www.naxja.org/forum/images/icons/icon10.gif

[FiFo]

I seem to recall a certain gentleman. This individual followed me through the Weed out the S**T trail at Reiter in his stock Ford Ranger Pickup.

Ask him about "the dent"

I'm not going to name any names but it rhymes with *cough* FiFo *cough*

http://www.naxja.org/forum/images/icons/icon10.gif

Dude the fact that this person, not naming names, managed to get a extended cab ford ranger through those turns with out getting stuck and only getting one dent is a testiment to outstanding driving skill.

Though looking at my...I mean his current rig maby not.

[Blkxjkrawler]

Dude the fact that this person, not naming names, managed to get a extended cab ford ranger through those turns with out getting stuck and only getting one dent is a testiment to outstanding driving skill.

Though looking at my...I mean his current rig maby not.

his current rig only has one dent... its called the passenger side

[XJLaredo]

his current rig only has one dent... its called the passenger side

I'm pretty sure EVERY panel was dented.:confused1

[FiFo]

I'm pretty sure EVERY panel was dented.:confused1

Nope, the hood and roof are like new. Well, the roof has a hole in it where sounds transit used to have an antenna, but that's not a dent so it doesn't count. Besides, if it isn’t dented, you haven’t been wheeling it hard enough. :)

[mud1059]

Besides, if it isn’t dented, you haven’t been wheeling it hard enough. :)
I've been sayin it for years. Good call man

[Sniggs]

...so...

About those diesels...

[CanMan]

...so...

About those diesels...

Don't be so enthused Mark. :rolleyes:


:D :D

[hards91xj]

...so...

About those diesels...Is that what this started as:huh:

[goblazers_6]

its an inside joke. guess you had to be at tahuya.

[FiFo]

its an inside joke. guess you had to be at tahuya.

Tahuya, forget that, I'm going to go wheel Alaska! Dude in Alaska you can get an XJ with 42" tires and a V12 stock from the factory, then you can wheel up to the article circle and hunt giant penguins with 50 cal machine guns. Ya, Alaska is cool!

[goblazers_6]

That was a diesel V12, right?

[BPB]

An 8000 cubic inch desil v-12 to be specific

[XJLaredo]

WOW, This thread is getting very pointless.

[CanMan]

WOW, This thread is getting very pointless.

I agree. Its getting old.

:D :D

[GreenbeltXJ]

theres nothin wrong with havin some fun, this thread is amusing.

[Blkxjkrawler]

But it does need more cowbell

[Sniggs]

Here ya go...
http://thetravisty.com/Saturday_Night_Live/wmv/Blue_Oyster_Cult_(More_Cowbell).htm

[GreenbeltXJ]

nice!

[Sniggs]

and on that note... buhbye.