Moab spring run April 26th- 29th 2007

[DrMoab]

Intermountain Chapter Spring Moab Run:

Alot of us will be camping somewhere in the sticks instead of in town. Let me know if you want info on the spot.

Final notes:

Thursday:
Hard: Cliffhanger Ewander
Meet at City Market 9am

Easy: Hells Revenge? XJBlue
Meet at City Market 9am


Friday:
Hard: Poison Spyder Mesa Ryan -DrMoab
Meet at City Market 9am

Easy: Fins and Things Von -MoabXJeeper
Meet at City Market 9am

Friday Night:

Pot Luck camp cookout. (See below for directions)

Saturday:
Both trails for Saturday will meet at the same spot, see below. 9am
Hard: Behind the Rocks - Handlebars
Easy: Tip Toe Behind the rocks - XJblue

Friday Evening Event: This is a BYOF & BYOC (Bring your own food and Chair)
We just want to hang around the camp fire and hang out. There will be a fire and stove to cook food. If you don't want to bring your food, eat before and come anyways.

Directions:It will be just off the HWY on the Behind the Rocks road...or more accurately where Behind the rocks, Pritchett canyon, Pritchett arch and other trails end.
About 12 miles south of town you will climb a very steep grade. EXAXTLY where the truck passing lane ends you make a right onto the road. We will be somewhere on that road not further then a mile in.
IF you pass the road go to the rest area at the bottom of the hill, turn around and follow those directions back only make a left this time

The Saturday trails will meet at the "Behind the Rocks" trailhead. It's located just off the highway. Go south on the highway. The turn off is right at the bottom of the big hill. If you get to the top of the hill, turn around. You can't miss us. __________________

[DeadEyeJ]

A nice calm weekend when hotels are cheap and the town is empty. That is all I ask.

Jared:patriot:

[DrMoab]

A nice calm weekend when hotels are cheap and the town is empty. That is all I ask.

Jared:patriot:
It will never happen unless we hold it in January.

Moab is rocking every weekend anymore.

[DeadEyeJ]

Actually, the official hotel off season is November 1st to March 1st. Most hotels are a whopping $29.95 per night all winter long. I've gone early november and late Febuary and it's cold, but not too cold. The trails are typically clear, with occasional snowdrifts if you go at the Febuary end of the season.

Feb 22-24th?

[DrMoab]

Actually, the official hotel off season is November 1st to March 1st. Most hotels are a whopping $29.95 per night all winter long. I've gone early november and late Febuary and it's cold, but not too cold. The trails are typically clear, with occasional snowdrifts if you go at the Febuary end of the season.

Feb 22-24th?
To early. This will be either late april or early may.

It is the dates we have had for the last three years.

[Clint]

To early. This will be either late april or early may.

It is the dates we have had for the last three years.


I seem to recall you saying there wasn't really a cotton problem during the carshow weekend. This last spring run was a week or two later right?

[DrMoab]

I seem to recall you saying there wasn't really a cotton problem during the carshow weekend. This last spring run was a week or two later right?
It isn't as bad as it was last year but there is still cotton.

[DaveW]

NO, it is not to early to bring it up. If we get it set people will be able to plan ahead make the trip.
If it comes down to a choice between whet we did this year and going back to the car show weekend, I'll vote for the cars show weekend.

Does anyone have next years school calander.:rolleyes: Maybe a time when the kids are out.

[JEEPZZ]

I've got standing reservations during the Hot Rod show. I'm not sure what the dates of the show is next year but that's when I almost always head down.


Does anyone have next years school calander.:rolleyes: Maybe a time when the kids are out.
Good point. I have a nephew that would love to go with us.

[XJSpencer]

If the Car Show keeps more people in town,(instead of the trail) that sounds good to me. Last time there were several groups/clubs in town. We were in a bit of a parking lot on Kane Creek.

[DrMoab]

If the Car Show keeps more people in town,(instead of the trail) that sounds good to me. Last time there were several groups/clubs in town. We were in a bit of a parking lot on Kane Creek.
Ya know...anymore I dont think it matters what weekend you are in Moab. It is getting to be so busy that almost any weekend is going to have several groups in town running trails.

Seems like two years ago when we did it over the car show weekend we still were running into people on the trails.

[jmaxj]

Ya know...anymore I dont think it matters what weekend you are in Moab. It is getting to be so busy that almost any weekend is going to have several groups in town running trails.

Seems like two years ago when we did it over the car show weekend we still were running into people on the trails.
agreed, it doesn't matter any weekend is a busy weekend down here.

[ROOK1]

I say we do it during the Rod Benders (http://www.moab-utah.com/aprilaction/) weekend, it is schedule for April 26-29 Thursday - Sunday. I am guessing that other 4WD clubs will try to avoid this weekend, but we will have to get reservations early due to the number of hot rods that will be there.

By the way that Woody on the left hand side of their page is awesome.

[TRNDRVR]

Moab spring runWhat? No more "IC on the Rocks"?

[DaveW]

I say we do it during the Rod Benders (http://www.moab-utah.com/aprilaction/) weekend, it is schedule for April 26-29 Thursday - Sunday. I am guessing that other 4WD clubs will try to avoid this weekend, but we will have to get reservations early due to the number of hot rods that will be there.

By the way that Woody on the left hand side of their page is awesome.

Yep, that's the car show we were talking about.
That's the weekend the spring run was help the previous two years.

[xjblue]

I've enjoyed car show weekend for the last three years now. That would be my vote :us:

[JEEPZZ]

I've enjoyed car show weekend for the last three years now. That would be my vote :us:
From last years car show weekend. The trails were pretty empty and we made due from the small number of XJs present.
You couldn't swing a dead cat without hitting a yellow TJ. :D

http://home.earthlink.net/~jeepzz/sitebuildercontent/sitebuilderpictures/dsc1353s.jpg

[ROOK1]

Bringing this to the top. We need to decide on a weekend. April isn't that far away, when you consider the holidays are in the middle. This will give people a target date to get their junk ready, you know modifications (me, Dave and others), new vehicles (Jeff/Ryan maybe) or even that buggy project you may be working on (sorry Bryon). Plus I also have to start thinking of scheduling vacation, my work has us schedule in late Nov for the next year. We also need to think of another cool name for this year. I'll start "IC on the Rocks II" or "IC on the Rocks Part Deux"

[DaveW]

I say we do it during the Rod Benders (http://www.moab-utah.com/aprilaction/) weekend, it is schedule for April 26-29 Thursday - Sunday. I am guessing that other 4WD clubs will try to avoid this weekend, but we will have to get reservations early due to the number of hot rods that will be there.

I'll second that week. Say 25-26 (Wednesday through Saturday).
Ya, let's make a decision now. Before the new BOD get in and screws it up.:D

[old_man]

An informal run is in the planning stages for the Colorado folks to hit Moab early in the spring before Easter Jeep. Might be nice to coordinate it so we can get to meet some of you guys. Hey, we can bring some good beer.

[azdesertrhino]

An informal run is in the planning stages for the Colorado folks to hit Moab early in the spring before Easter Jeep. Might be nice to coordinate it so we can get to meet some of you guys. Hey, we can bring some good beer.

HMMM, beer is a good thing!! :cheers: Would really like to make a run to Moab. Hope the week picked works with my work schedule.

[XJEEPER]

last weekend of April works for me, and throw in some CO XJers for a bonus......and I still have $20 on my rig being ready before Bryon's.:spin1:

[Clint]

I vote carshow weekend. It seems to be a fun weekend with some night entertainment after wheeling. But i also agree that we need to get this set soon, as my company does next years vacation at the end of November.

[Geepfreak]

my company does next years vacation at the end of November.

So does mine..:D

[Brad M.]

So does mine..:D

And the end of december... and the end of january... and the end of february... :D :D

[Geepfreak]

And the end of december... and the end of january... and the end of february... :D :D


:D

[XJumpmaster]

I'm in for that weekend!

[IntrepidXJ]

I vote carshow weekend. It seems to be a fun weekend with some night entertainment after wheeling. But i also agree that we need to get this set soon, as my company does next years vacation at the end of November.


x7....i need to let my prospective employer know up front ;)

[ROOK1]

So when is this?

[XJSpencer]

I say we do it during the Rod Benders (http://www.moab-utah.com/aprilaction/) weekend, it is schedule for April 26-29 Thursday - Sunday.

It's official! Fourth week in April. Why are we still discussing this? I'll be calling in my reservations. Can we start the official "sticky" thread now? :D:D

[Geepfreak]

We'll be staying the Moab Rim Camp-park, I think we should make this the official head-quarters for this event..
Sue and Jim love Jeepers! CLEAN showers, cabins, RV spots, campfires, small Pavillions....

[Mrs Moab]

We'll be staying the Moab Rim Camp-park, I think we should make this the official head-quarters for this event..
Sue and Jim love Jeepers! CLEAN showers, cabins, RV spots, campfires, small Pavillions....

I'm talking to Ryan now and he says that it's not big enough.

[Mrs Moab]

I know I'm not the "Official" president, but the final decision...as you all have made, is April 25-April 28 (Wednesday-Saturday).

Make your reservations now.

Clint, get busy on the trails and tail leaders :D

[JEEPZZ]

We'll be staying the Moab Rim Camp-park, I think we should make this the official head-quarters for this event..
Sue and Jim love Jeepers! CLEAN showers, cabins, RV spots, campfires, small Pavillions....
Sue rocks! I've already got my spot reserved there.

I know I'm not the "Official" president,
Yes you are. :D

[Mrs Moab]

Yes you are. :D

Shhhh....we can't let that get out.

[Israel]

I know I'm not the "Official" president, but the final decision...as you all have made, is April 25-April 28 (Wednesday-Saturday).

Make your reservations now.

Clint, get busy on the trails and tail leaders :D

If you were the "Official" president, wouldn't that make Ryan the first lady?

[Mrs Moab]

If you were the "Official" president, wouldn't that make Ryan the first lady?

LOL!!!

[old_man]

Damn, you folks need to get out wheeling more. You're going bonkers. When the dates are hard set, please post it up so I can make my reservations.

[DrMoab]

Damn, you folks need to get out wheeling more. You're going bonkers. When the dates are hard set, please post it up so I can make my reservations.
Dates are set. April 24th-29th

[Lonestar]

Dates are set. April 24th-29th

Is there a specific place where everyone is staying?

[Clint]

Is there a specific place where everyone is staying?


The people who camp usually stay at Slickrock or Moab Rim. It's seems about 50/50 split. The last 2 times I stayed at Slickrock and I'm thinking about staying at Moab Rim this time. Alot of people get hotel rooms as well.

[Clint]

Bump...this really should be a sticky..

[DaveW]

Bump...this really should be a sticky..

Yep, ...done!

Well, not yet - undone.

[DaveW]

We can create a new thread for the offical info once we get it nailed down. Then we can drop this thread.

[DrMoab]

Lets try and keep this on topic now please.

[Israel]

Is it too early to start talking about trails? I'd really like to try Poison Spider again and maybe Golden Spike.

[DrMoab]

Is it too early to start talking about trails? I'd really like to try Poison Spider again and maybe Golden Spike.
No...not at all. In fact if anyone has that one "special" trail they would like to do, I would like to hear about it. Doesn't mean we are going to run it for sure but we need ideas.

I just read an article in a Mag about another group doing Moab. One day in their trip they had what they called an "Adventure" day. Just a free roaming day where people could do what they want.

I thought this might be an interesting idea to try since most people one day go off on thier own anyway.

[IntrepidXJ]

I just read an article in a Mag about another group doing Moab. One day in their trip they had what they called an "Adventure" day. Just a free roaming day where people could do what they want.

I thought this might be an interesting idea to try since most people one day go off on thier own anyway.

didn;t you do that last year, when golden spike was cancelled ;)

:shocked:

[Clint]

I beleive I'm in charge of trails, but I'd like to float the idea of doing Golden Spike the first or second day. At the FF we did it on the last day and it was pretty brutal after a week of partying. :) But please if there is a certain trail, please let us know here. Also if your willing to do a great deed and lead a trail, please PM Me.

[Brad M.]

I beleive I'm in charge of trails, but I'd like to float the idea of doing Golden Spike the first or second day. At the FF we did it on the last day and it was pretty brutal after a week of partying. :) But please if there is a certain trail, please let us know here. Also if your willing to do a great deed and lead a trail, please PM Me.

I agree that it's easier doing the more challenging stuff first and working down into moderate/easy toward the last day. As for trails to run, any of the usual suspects is great, hard to go wrong in Moab. As long as my wife doesn't have to do Moab Rim again we'll be fine. :D

[IntrepidXJ]

I agree that it's easier doing the more challenging stuff first and working down into moderate/easy toward the last day.

see, i'm the opposite. i like the easy stuff first and then finishing off the trip with the hardest stuff.

[Clint]

I didn't mean to say most difficult at the beginning. All I ment is that Golden Spike is an extremely long non-stop trail. Running it Saturday after a long week of wheeling was almost too much. To me, running the spike on one of the earlier days would have made it a bit more enjoyable.

[Geepfreak]

l could take a group out to the Sand Dunes, North West of Moab( really cool spot), some sand running, a bit of rock crawling, and PLENTY of exploring..

[Israel]

Also if your willing to do a great deed and lead a trail, please PM Me.

I can lead highway 6 from Spanish Fork to I70. :D That's about all I'm good for since this will be my second trip to Moab, ever. :sad1:

[DrMoab]

see, i'm the opposite. i like the easy stuff first and then finishing off the trip with the hardest stuff.
I agree. I would rather break my junk the last day of the trip then the first.

Just my opinion but if we are only going to do a couple of trails this year Golden Spike might not be the best one to do. It's just too long.

[Clint]

I agree. I would rather break my junk the last day of the trip then the first.

Just my opinion but if we are only going to do a couple of trails this year Golden Spike might not be the best one to do. It's just too long.


Yeah but you have a trailer to load the broken junk onto for the ride home...... :D

[DrMoab]

Yeah but you have a trailer to load the broken junk onto for the ride home...... :D
Not sure it makes any difference. If you break bad on the first day you are going to spend your trip fixing it whether its on a trailer or not. Granted it sucks to get home when you have to drive it but even when I drove mine I felt the same way.

To me there is nothing worse then spending the week in Moab working on my junk.

[Clint]

I've had it suggested that we possibly reduce the amount of days for the spring Moab trip to help facilitate attendance of a Vernal trip over Memorial Day weekend. Instead of Tuesday-Saturday, we would do Thursday-Saturday w/th dinner Friday night. Any opinions? Would reducing the amount of days in Moab help people's chances of making it out to Vernal? Would it matter? Just a thought.

Any comments on this in this thread? Good or bad idea?

[Brad M.]

Any comments on this in this thread? Good or bad idea?

I think it's a good idea. In my case anyways, it's easier taking time off and planning smaller weekend trips...

[Brad M.]

l could take a group out to the Sand Dunes, North West of Moab( really cool spot), some sand running, a bit of rock crawling, and PLENTY of exploring..

That's a great area, haven't been out that way in quite awhile. I'd be up for it.:thumbup:

[MTNTECH]

Originally Posted by Clint
I've had it suggested that we possibly reduce the amount of days for the spring Moab trip to help facilitate attendance of a Vernal trip over Memorial Day weekend. Instead of Tuesday-Saturday, we would do Thursday-Saturday w/th dinner Friday night. Any opinions? Would reducing the amount of days in Moab help people's chances of making it out to Vernal? Would it matter? Just a thought.

Any comments on this in this thread? Good or bad idea?

I would have to come back on Saturday and could not leave until Wednesday so that would work, maybe few of us could do a short trail Wed afternoon. Friday's best night for the diner, has anybody looked into a place for the diner like the park we had last year?

[Clint]

Originally Posted by Clint
I've had it suggested that we possibly reduce the amount of days for the spring Moab trip to help facilitate attendance of a Vernal trip over Memorial Day weekend. Instead of Tuesday-Saturday, we would do Thursday-Saturday w/th dinner Friday night. Any opinions? Would reducing the amount of days in Moab help people's chances of making it out to Vernal? Would it matter? Just a thought.



I would have to come back on Saturday and could not leave until Wednesday so that would work, maybe few of us could do a short trail Wed afternoon. Friday's best night for the diner, has anybody looked into a place for the diner like the park we had last year?

Anything on Wednesday would have to be coordinated with the people wanting to do that. Dinner is being discussed, nothing has been set yet. Dinner is always Friday.

[Clint]

Has everyone made their reservations? I can't decide if I want to camp or hotel this time...

[DrMoab]

Has everyone made their reservations? I can't decide if I want to camp or hotel this time...
No. Don't plan on it for a month or so.

I told you if you stuck this thread everyone would forget about it. :D

[Clint]

No. Don't plan on it for a month or so.

I told you if you stuck this thread everyone would forget about it. :D

No one has forgot about Moab. It's just no one has anything constructive to add at this time..

[XJumpmaster]

We're still planning on going and camping. Just gottal get electrical fixed on the tent trailer and hopefully lift it! Probably stay at the usual RV Park.

[Brad M.]

No one has forgot about Moab. It's just no one has anything constructive to add at this time..

Still planning on it... my wife and I have it marked on the calendar and vacation time requested :D

[Mrs Moab]

Ryan and I will be at the Riverside Inn again.

[Geepfreak]

Ryan and I will be at the Riverside Inn again.



MRC, cabin #18 :D

[jmaxj]

MRC, cabin #18 :D
300 s 400 e :laugh3:

[MoabXJeeper]

300 s 400 e :laugh3:

Is that in the trailer park Derek?

[jmaxj]

Is that in the trailer park Derek?
you have been there you should know :laugh3:

[Clint]

Since this is getting closer, we need to get some trails worked out. We will run 2 trails a day, 1 easy and 1 medium/hard. I would like to get some suggestions as to what you guys want to run. Suggest only 3 trails per difficulty. The only thing I ask is we keep the suggestions in this format:

Medium/Hard:
Pritchet
Cliffhanger


Easy:
Fins and Things
Gemini Bridges
Top of the world

Thanks all!

[ROOK1]

Hells
PSM
Spike
Metal Masher

[XJSpencer]

I'm still going to try to make it down.

I want to run Golden Spike.

[Clint]

No one else has any preferences?

[0313]

I am going to do a Spike run on thursday if anyone wants to join up. But I wanna move on it, not going to stop every five minutes for pictures, unless ya break we keep moving. :D

Kane creek one (Wednesday?) day since the FF run on it didnt get completed, anyone wanna lead?

A day to screw around at area BFE, perhaps, if not I wouldnt mind going to the sand dunes. (Friday)?

Hells Revenge one day, (Saturday?)

Might do Pritchett if everyone can keep their panties on this time.

[DrMoab]

I am going to do a Spike run on thursday if anyone wants to join up. But I wanna move on it, not going to stop every five minutes for pictures, unless ya break we keep moving. :D

Kane creek one (Wednesday?) day since the FF run on it didnt get completed, anyone wanna lead? .
There won't be anything "official" on Wednesday this year.

Going to be a shorter trip.

[XJumpmaster]

If I can get out of that weekend of training that they changed to, I won't be down until Friday afternoon and coming back on Mon.

[DaveW]

These sound good.
In no particular order...

Golden Spike
Metal Masher (the only one listed I have not run)
Kane Creek
Sand Dunes
Pritchet
Cliffhanger
Fins and Things
Hells Revenge
PSM

[12 Volt Man]

Looks like I may be in on this trip. My first Moab run :)
Trying to weigh options right now. I may need to bring all 4 kids along (and the wife). Which means driving the Suburban and towing the Jeep. I don't have a trailer. Does anyone have something I can rent cheap? Or does someone have a trailer that holds two Jeeps with room to haul mine?

Dangit. I need to get some stuff done to the Jeep too. This is going to be awesome.

[Clint]

Looks like I may be in on this trip. My first Moab run :)
Trying to weigh options right now. I may need to bring all 4 kids along (and the wife). Which means driving the Suburban and towing the Jeep. I don't have a trailer. Does anyone have something I can rent cheap? Or does someone have a trailer that holds two Jeeps with room to haul mine?

Dangit. I need to get some stuff done to the Jeep too. This is going to be awesome.

Note sure about cheap, but I have seen people rent them from like uHaul.

[ROOK1]

Looks like I may be in on this trip. My first Moab run :)
Trying to weigh options right now. I may need to bring all 4 kids along (and the wife). Which means driving the Suburban and towing the Jeep. I don't have a trailer. Does anyone have something I can rent cheap? Or does someone have a trailer that holds two Jeeps with room to haul mine?

Dangit. I need to get some stuff done to the Jeep too. This is going to be awesome.

Make a list of what needs to be done and I'll help. Get your reservations NOW, you can always cancel.

[Clint]

Make a list of what needs to be done and I'll help. Get your reservations NOW, you can always cancel.


When are you going to come help me?

[ROOK1]

When are you going to come help me?

Done (http://cms.psychologytoday.com/rms/state/Utah.html).

He only lives 30 seconds away.

[DrMoab]

Looks like I may be in on this trip. My first Moab run :)
Trying to weigh options right now. I may need to bring all 4 kids along (and the wife). Which means driving the Suburban and towing the Jeep. I don't have a trailer. Does anyone have something I can rent cheap? Or does someone have a trailer that holds two Jeeps with room to haul mine?

Dangit. I need to get some stuff done to the Jeep too. This is going to be awesome.

I think there might be a mobil home in downtown Moab that might be empty. :D

Contact the grand co jail and ask for Derek...He might be looking for some extra money. :D

[MoabXJeeper]

I think there might be a mobil home in downtown Moab that might be empty. :D

Contact the grand co jail and ask for Derek...He might be looking for some extra money. :D

Poor Derek...I hope he isnt in jail....again! I know where his mobile home is and kinda doubt the lock works too good...never kept the riff raff out before. LOL

[DrMoab]

Poor Derek...I hope he isnt in jail....again! I know where his mobile home is and kinda doubt the lock works too good...never kept the riff raff out before. LOL
You must have not read the other thread. He is indeed...in jail...again.

[Mrs Moab]

Looks like I may be in on this trip. My first Moab run :)
Trying to weigh options right now. I may need to bring all 4 kids along (and the wife). Which means driving the Suburban and towing the Jeep. I don't have a trailer. Does anyone have something I can rent cheap? Or does someone have a trailer that holds two Jeeps with room to haul mine?

Dangit. I need to get some stuff done to the Jeep too. This is going to be awesome.

When you say that you may need to bring all 4 kids along (and the wife), is this a bad thing?

[ROOK1]

Do you really need to ask this question?

[Mrs Moab]

Do you really need to ask this question?

This from the man who says that he HAS a wife.

[12 Volt Man]

When you say that you may need to bring all 4 kids along (and the wife), is this a bad thing?

Not a bad thing. Just a thing that requires more planning and an extra vehicle to transport the whole crew. And I have to round up a trailer. I tried to talk my wife into leaving the 5 month old with Grandma. That would solve the whole problem and we could drive just the XJ. She wouldn't go for it. My kids are excited about the trip. My wife hasn't been on a real trail ride yet, but she loves Moab. Should be fun for everyone.

[Clint]

Not a bad thing. Just a thing that requires more planning and an extra vehicle to transport the whole crew. And I have to round up a trailer. I tried to talk my wife into leaving the 5 month old with Grandma. That would solve the whole problem and we could drive just the XJ. She wouldn't go for it. My kids are excited about the trip. My wife hasn't been on a real trail ride yet, but she loves Moab. Should be fun for everyone.

I'd definelty try and bring two cars then. That way while your on the trail, she can go do other crap :D

[DaveW]

Not a bad thing. Just a thing that requires more planning and an extra vehicle to transport the whole crew. And I have to round up a trailer. I tried to talk my wife into leaving the 5 month old with Grandma. That would solve the whole problem and we could drive just the XJ. She wouldn't go for it. My kids are excited about the trip. My wife hasn't been on a real trail ride yet, but she loves Moab. Should be fun for everyone.

I put a 3rd seat in my XJ. Had 7 seat belts. Fit all six of us when the kids were smaller. Kids loved to go to Moab. I did have to get a roof rack after loosing the cargo space.
I got mine at Upholstery West in Salt Lake City, Utah - http://www.upholsterywest.com/

[THE BUSS2006]

Looks like maybe the planets might align just right and I may be able to make it down that week. Question for the folks that have been down there over the week of the car show before. I'm probably not going to make it until Thursday evening or so, is there going to be much of a problem finding some decent camp sites? We usually camp at some of the sites in the Sand Flats road area, (Slick Rock, Fins, etc.). Are we going to be too far away from everyone to hook up for trail-runs, dinner, etc.? :dunno:

Looking forward to running some of the trails with everyone...at least the ones in the easy-meduim range. :gee:

[Clint]

Looks like maybe the planets might align just right and I may be able to make it down that week. Question for the folks that have been down there over the week of the car show before. I'm probably not going to make it until Thursday evening or so, is there going to be much of a problem finding some decent camp sites? We usually camp at some of the sites in the Sand Flats road area, (Slick Rock, Fins, etc.). Are we going to be too far away from everyone to hook up for trail-runs, dinner, etc.? :dunno:

Looking forward to running some of the trails with everyone...at least the ones in the easy-meduim range. :gee:

We had people camped out on Sand flats for FF and they made it to all the events. It's just how much time you want to spend driving to the meeting areas and how early you want to get up.

[Clint]

Does anyone have any other trail suggestions, especially for the easier trails? Or anyone want to lead any trails?

[Israel]

Has Fins 'n Things or Porcupine Rim been suggested yet? I've done half of Fins and it wasn't too hard. I've never done Porcupine, but I hear its very easy.

[THE BUSS2006]

We had people camped out on Sand flats for FF and they made it to all the events. It's just how much time you want to spend driving to the meeting areas and how early you want to get up.


Driving a little bit doesn't bother me, Moab is incredible no matter where you're at IMO, now the getting up early part...I guess that's why there's coffee! :speepin:

Any thoughts on if the camp sites are going to be crowded that weekend?

I would like to put a vote in for "Fins and Things", that's actually the only trail I've ran (part of it at least), I'm still a Moab noob...at least as far as Jeepin' goes.

[ROOK1]

Yes it will be crowded. It is the Rod Benders car show that weekend. Get your reservations early.

[98XJROKS]

Made mine last year on my way out of town...:cheers:

[GottaBeJeep]

The LOST KJ Moab run is April 20-28, so expect to see atleast 50+ KJ's along with some other rigs running around out there. And a lot of the lodging is pretty booked already, or very expensive, so be prepared to shell out some money, or bring a tent.

[MoabXJeeper]

The LOST KJ Moab run is April 20-28, so expect to see atleast 50+ KJ's along with some other rigs running around out there. And a lot of the lodging is pretty booked already, or very expensive, so be prepared to shell out some money, or bring a tent.

Looks like I will be at Moab Rim if I get my heep ready before then. I need at least gears and a locker for the front and onboard air!

[Brad M.]

I've never done Porcupine, but I hear its very easy.

Porcupine's a great run, beautiful scenery. We had a stock '01 4Runner tag along w/us in Nov. when we ran it. There are a few spots that might give a n00b some serious pucker factor, but it's doable in a stock to slightly modified rig.

[xjblue]

Porcupine's a great run, beautiful scenery. We had a stock '01 4Runner tag along w/us in Nov. when we ran it. There are a few spots that might give a n00b some serious pucker factor, but it's doable in a stock to slightly modified rig.


led the Moab Rocks group up there and got stuck behind a TTORA group with a stockish 100 series w/ noob to Moab driver behind the wheel. Luckily we were only going to the overlook and not behind them to the end of the trail. It is easy in a moderate XJ thats for sure.

[xjblue]

We had people camped out on Sand flats for FF and they made it to all the events. It's just how much time you want to spend driving to the meeting areas and how early you want to get up.


I've driven in from sleeping out under the stars as far out as Hurrah Pass and Dead Horse Point in the morning before a trail start. Actually left home at 4:00 AM a couple times too to make a trail run start :shhh: .

[xjblue]

My friends with the Toyota who came out and ran with me and Todd's group last year and some of their friends will be with me. might have to schedule some mountain biking in during the weekend as well.

[Clint]

Ryan and and I are thinking about staying out in the sticks for a real camp fire. Would be fun..

[JEEPZZ]

My friends with the Toyota who came out and ran with me and Todd's group last year and some of their friends will be with me. might have to schedule some mountain biking in during the weekend as well.
Did he get his clutch fixed? :D

[DrMoab]

Ryan and and I are thinking about staying out in the sticks for a real camp fire. Would be fun..
Yup. I think we are going to do this.

If anyone wants to join us for a "real" camping trip you are more then welcome.

Looking at either out on the Kane Creek Rd or up north off the highway somewhere.

[JEEPZZ]

There are some really nce camping sites right next to the river. Calm, quite & very scenic.

[Clint]

There are some really nce camping sites right next to the river. Calm, quite & very scenic.


As long as it isn't raining.... Saw some very unfortunate people who thought the scenic route was the best way to go on the last Moab trip... :D :D

[DrMoab]

There are some really nce camping sites right next to the river. Calm, quite & very scenic.
Thats all fine and good as long as you have a potty and don't mind the Eco-Nazi's (aka the BLM rangers) checking in on you every now and then.

No thanks. I want to be left alone.

[JEEPZZ]

As long as it isn't raining.... Saw some very unfortunate people who thought the scenic route was the best way to go on the last Moab trip... :D :D
Good point. It could turn out to be another mountain bike rescue scene. Maybe we can christen StinkyII in the river? :D (don't tell Nanette I said that)

[MoabXJeeper]

As long as it isn't raining.... Saw some very unfortunate people who thought the scenic route was the best way to go on the last Moab trip... :D :D

Moab averages only 1.2 inches of precipitation for the whole month of April so what are the odds it will rain while we are there? :D

[DrMoab]

Moab averages only 1.2 inches of precipitation for the whole month of April so what are the odds it will rain while we are there? :D
1.2? Sheesh thats nothing. Fall Fling gave us 9 inches.

[Clint]

Good point. It could turn out to be another mountain bike rescue scene. Maybe we can christen StinkyII in the river? :D (don't tell Nanette I said that)

So are you coming this time??

[XJumpmaster]

It's official! I will be there noonish on that Friday until Sun or Mon. Unfortunately, Tamara will not be there as she will be in Atlanta that weekend. I won't have to pull the trailer down! Let me know where ya'll decide to camp!

[Mrs Moab]

Good point. It could turn out to be another mountain bike rescue scene. Maybe we can christen StinkyII in the river? :D (don't tell Nanette I said that)


TTTTTOOOOOOODDDDDDDDDDDDDD!!!!!!

[Mrs Moab]

Moab averages only 1.2 inches of precipitation for the whole month of April so what are the odds it will rain while we are there? :D

Are you coming Von? What about Josh, or is he still all about the girls.

[Mrs Moab]

So are you coming this time??

Yeah, it's about time Jr. got some off road time.

[Mrs Moab]

It's official! I will be there noonish on that Friday until Sun or Mon. Unfortunately, Tamara will not be there as she will be in Atlanta that weekend. I won't have to pull the trailer down! Let me know where ya'll decide to camp!

Too bad she isn't able to come. I think it would be fun if we could get a big campin' group. Clint said that he's cookin' dinner for us all too. What a kid. :D

[Clint]

Here is the trail list so far. We need some trail leaders to speak up please. Come show us that you really know Moab and step up. Especially for the easy trails. If you want to lead one of the easy trails, but not a specific one mentioned, PM me and we can work something out.


Thursday:
Hard: Cliffhanger
Easy: *TBD (Please let me know what you guys want to do here)

Friday:
Hard: Flat Iron Mesa
Easy: Gemini Bridges/Top of the World

Saturday:
Hard: Behind the Rocks
Easy: Fins and Things

[Mrs Moab]

No PSM?

Here is the trail list so far. We need some trail leaders to speak up please. Come show us that you really know Moab and step up. Especially for the easy trails. If you want to lead one of the easy trails, but not a specific one mentioned, PM me and we can work something out.


Thursday:
Hard: Cliffhanger
Easy: *TBD (Please let me know what you guys want to do here)

Friday:
Hard: Flat Iron Mesa
Easy: Gemini Bridges/Top of the World

Saturday:
Hard: Behind the Rocks
Easy: Fins and Things

[ROOK1]

Hells
PSM
Spike
Metal Masher

None of these? WTF

[Clint]

No PSM?

Cant do them all in 3 days...

[ROOK1]

Apparently not even 1 in 3 days

[XJumpmaster]

Here is the trail list so far. We need some trail leaders to speak up please. Come show us that you really know Moab and step up. Especially for the easy trails. If you want to lead one of the easy trails, but not a specific one mentioned, PM me and we can work something out.


Thursday:
Hard: Cliffhanger
Easy: *TBD (Please let me know what you guys want to do here)

Friday:
Hard: Flat Iron Mesa
Easy: Gemini Bridges/Top of the World

Saturday:
Hard: Behind the Rocks
Easy: Fins and Things

I've done all the easy ones! But I don't know if I can do the hard ones. 4.5" and 31s locked front and rear. No Armor....but I want to do these since Tamara's not there to worry about damage! LOL

[Clint]

I've done all the easy ones! But I don't know if I can do the hard ones. 4.5" and 31s locked front and rear. No Armor....but I want to do these since Tamara's not there to worry about damage! LOL

Shouldn't be a problem if you take your time and go easy on the skinny pedal.

[Clint]

Apparently not even 1 in 3 days

If there is enough interest to run PSM on Friday or Saturday we can run 3 trails that day, no problem.

[xjblue]

Quote:
Originally Posted by Clint
Here is the trail list so far. We need some trail leaders to speak up please. Come show us that you really know Moab and step up. Especially for the easy trails. If you want to lead one of the easy trails, but not a specific one mentioned, PM me and we can work something out.
I've done all the easy ones! But I don't know if I can do the hard ones. 4.5" and 31s locked front and rear. No Armor....but I want to do these since Tamara's not there to worry about damage! LOL

Thursday:
Hard: Cliffhanger, If I can do it you can do it...

Friday:
Hard: Flat Iron Mesa, I'll do this one, there are bypasses irrc, just follow me

Saturday:
Hard: Behind the Rocks, I'm not tall or locked enough for this one yet, but if I had your set up with the right armor...

Did he get his clutch fixed? :D

No as of last time I talked to him, Told him to get that fixed before Moab! He even let his wife drive up part of rattlesnake, A; she is new at it, B; it's the same clutch - they showed me the video :star: good times

[Clint]

Quote:
Originally Posted by Clint
Here is the trail list so far. We need some trail leaders to speak up please. Come show us that you really know Moab and step up. Especially for the easy trails. If you want to lead one of the easy trails, but not a specific one mentioned, PM me and we can work something out.


Thursday:
Hard: Cliffhanger, If I can do it you can do it...

Friday:
Hard: Flat Iron Mesa, I'll do this one, there are bypasses irrc, just follow me

Saturday:
Hard: Behind the Rocks, I'm not tall or locked enough for this one yet, but if I had your set up with the right armor...



No as of last time I talked to him, Told him to get that fixed before Moab! He even let his wife drive up part of rattlesnake, A; she is new at it, B; it's the same clutch - they showed me the video :star: good times

Jared,
Maybe you and Chris and a few others could do PSM on Saturday then. Behind the rocks was specificaly requested by the El Presidente.

[Israel]

Here is the trail list so far. We need some trail leaders to speak up please. Come show us that you really know Moab and step up. Especially for the easy trails. If you want to lead one of the easy trails, but not a specific one mentioned, PM me and we can work something out.


Thursday:
Hard: Cliffhanger
Easy: *TBD (Please let me know what you guys want to do here)

Friday:
Hard: Flat Iron Mesa
Easy: Gemini Bridges/Top of the World

Saturday:
Hard: Behind the Rocks
Easy: Fins and Things

How about Hell's Revenge for the Thursday easy run? Its really not bad if you take the bypasses.

[Mrs Moab]

None of these? WTF


Did you want some cheese wiht that whine?

[Clint]

None of these? WTF

Well lets see, we are only down there for 3 days. We did spike, Metal Masher and PSM during FF. Why not do something different? If you want to run hells or PSM on Thursday, get some interest going with the people who plan on running the easier trails and see if they are comfortable with that.

Besides, I'm not sure why your upset about spike anyways. Unless you have a locker and a little more lift your not going to find many who want to take you on that trail anyways.

[Clint]

How about Hell's Revenge for the Thursday easy run? Its really not bad if you take the bypasses.

Israel,

I like that idea if the people who are planning on coming thursday and running the easy trail agree.

[ROOK1]

Thursday:
Hard: Cliffhanger
Easy: *TBD (Please let me know what you guys want to do here)

Friday:
Hard: Flat Iron Mesa
Easy: Gemini Bridges/Top of the World

Saturday:
Hard: Behind the Rocks
Easy: Fins and Things
Besides, I'm not sure why your upset about spike anyways. Unless you have a locker and a little more lift your not going to find many who want to take you on that trail anyways.
I'm not upset. I just thought when asked for our ideas of what trails we wanted to run you might actually have more than one on your list.

Me
Hells
PSM
Spike
Metal Masher

Cody
Spike
Kane creek
Area BFE
Hells

Dave
Golden Spike
Metal Masher (the only one listed I have not run)
Kane Creek
Sand Dunes
Pritchet
Cliffhanger
Fins and Things
Hells Revenge
PSM

Israel
Fins 'n Things
Porcupine Rim

And why are you always making fun of my Jeep being small? You don't see me making fun of your penis. :D

[Clint]

I'm not upset. I just thought when asked for our ideas of what trails we wanted to run you might actually have more than one on your list.

Me
Hells
PSM
Spike
Metal Masher

Cody
Spike
Kane creek
Area BFE
Hells

Dave
Golden Spike
Metal Masher (the only one listed I have not run)
Kane Creek
Sand Dunes
Pritchet
Cliffhanger
Fins and Things
Hells Revenge
PSM

Israel
Fins 'n Things
Porcupine Rim

And why are you always making fun of my Jeep being small? You don't see me making fun of your penis. :D

:moon: I did not make fun of your jeep being small. What I was trying to say is, Golden Spike is a pretty bitchin trail that would really be a pain in the but with NO locker. Heck ask Stewie about how difficult it was with just ONE locker and 32's...

If you want to more about the size of my junk, please PM me. This thread is about Moab.

[JEEPZZ]

So are you coming this time??

Yeah, it's about time Jr. got some off road time.
Yep, I plan on coming down for this event. I've made at least one trip down to Moab every year I've owned a Jeep. :D I'll probably leave town either Thursday late afternoon or early Friday morning and stay in Moab through Sunday.

Sorry Nanette, no Zach on this trip. One of Julie's friends is going to be in town that same weekend for a visit and she'll be staying at our house with Julie and Zach. Looks like I'm going stag.

[Clint]

Yep, I plan on coming down for this event. I've made at least one trip down to Moab every year I've owned a Jeep. :D I'll probably leave town either Thursday late afternoon or early Friday morning and stay in Moab through Sunday.

Sorry Nanette, no Zach on this trip. One of Julie's friends is going to be in town that same weekend for a visit and she'll be staying at our house with Julie and Zach. Looks like I'm going stag.


Sweet, you can camp out in the sticks with Ryan and I...

[DrMoab]

Ok...just so everyone understands how this works.

Clint asked for suggestions. IT WAS NEVER UP FOR A VOTE!!!

Clint took over a job from me because I was sick and tired of dealing with crap just like this. The trails he picked are just fine. They are trails that we have run less then any in Moab and I specifically asked to have Behind the Rocks on the list. If anyone has problems with this take it up with me...not Clint.

Oh and Chris...He wasn't making fun of your jeep...he was exactly right. I don't know how to tell you this without hurting your feelings but there are just some trails you are not set up to do the way your rig sits right now. This isn't a slam on you in anyway...its just the truth. The funny thing is, with the exception of Behind the Rocks there isn't a single one of those trails that you can't handle with your jeep.
I'm not upset. I just thought when asked for our ideas of what trails we wanted to run you might actually have more than one on your list.

Me
Hells
PSM
Spike
Metal Masher

Cody
Spike
Kane creek
Area BFE
Hells

Dave
Golden Spike
Metal Masher (the only one listed I have not run)
Kane Creek
Sand Dunes
Pritchet
Cliffhanger
Fins and Things
Hells Revenge
PSM

Israel
Fins 'n Things
Porcupine Rim

And why are you always making fun of my Jeep being small? You don't see me making fun of your penis. :D

[xjblue]

Rook1 for your jeep to handle golden spike, you need to have 3 heavy guys on your rear bumper for the golden crack :lickout: and someone to spot you up and down a couple spots and out of body snatcher but it is a long trail notorious for forced late night returns, just wait for the time to be right.

Jared,
Maybe you and Chris and a few others could do PSM on Saturday then. Behind the rocks was specificaly requested by the El Presidente.

I would actually be interested in the Tiptoe Behind the Rocks version with the hike to Pritchet arch I've been itching to do for years, so perhaps we could do the split group routine for the intermediates.

I'm still a little waterlogged from Poison Spider at the moment

[Clint]

I would actually be interested in the Tiptoe Behind the Rocks version with the hike to Pritchet arch I've been itching to do for years, so perhaps we could do the split group routine for the intermediates.

I'm still a little waterlogged from Poison Spider at the moment

That sounds like a great idea that I'd consider doing myself. Anymore info Jared?

[DrMoab]

That sounds like a great idea that I'd consider doing myself. Anymore info Jared?
You don't need to tiptoe behind the rocks...your jeep is perfectly cabable of doing the whole trail.

[Clint]

So who is all coming? Guess I'm just excited for this trip..

Me,
Todd
Morty
Ryan
Jumpmaster
Dave??
12 volt?
TheBuss2006?
Israel
Von?
Jared (XJblue)
Tom (MTNtech)?
Spencer?
Lonestar?
Jeff and his new rig?

EDIT:
Slider

[DrMoab]

I heard a rumor that a non-xj driving member and his wife from Wy might make it.

[Clint]

I heard a rumor that a non-xj driving member and his wife from Wy might make it.


Oh ya forgot I talked to him about that!

[slider]

I heard a rumor that a non-xj driving member and his wife from Wy might make it.

what do you mean non-xj drivers. let me barrow your jeep and i'll be an xj driver.

[DrMoab]

what do you mean non-xj drivers. let me barrow your jeep and i'll be an xj driver.
Maybe I wasn't talking about you. :D

[slider]

i would reeelly like to get "tall weeds" running and somewhat set up. but blue will have to do for now.

[DrMoab]

i would reeelly like to get "tall weeds" running and somewhat set up. but blue will have to do for now.
Tall Weeds????

hahaha thats funny.

[slider]

the tall weeds salvage project if you want the long version. i can't get rid of it because eric is conviced he is going to drive it to school. and he may well.

[DrMoab]

the tall weeds salvage project if you want the long version. i can't get rid of it because eric is conviced he is going to drive it to school. and he may well.
I got Stinky off the trailer. Its now sitting next to my house on logs so the gas tank is easy to get to.

[slider]

i've just got to make time to come down and get it. this easter trip and now moab are making my schedule kinda tight.

[Israel]

So who is all coming? Guess I'm just excited for this trip..

Me,
Todd
Morty
Ryan
Jumpmaster
Dave??
12 volt?
TheBuss2006?
Israel
Von?
Jared (XJblue)
Tom (MTNtech)?
Spencer?
Lonestar?
Jeff and his new rig?

EDIT:
Slider

I'm not certain I can come yet. If I do, I will likely be taking the ZJ. Will I still be welcome?

[Clint]

I'm not certain I can come yet. If I do, I will likely be taking the ZJ. Will I still be welcome?

You betcha. Brian might be bringing his ZJ..

[slider]

i would feel much better with another "outsider jeep" in the mix.

[JEEPZZ]

I heard a rumor that a non-xj driving member and his wife from Wy might make it.
What??? Gif got hitched and moved to Wyo?? :D

[JEEPZZ]

So who is all coming? Guess I'm just excited for this trip..

Me,
Todd
Morty
Ryan
Jumpmaster
Dave??
12 volt?
TheBuss2006?
Israel
Von?
Jared (XJblue)
Tom (MTNtech)?
Spencer?
Lonestar?
Jeff and his new rig?

EDIT:
Slider
Looks like Mikey (crazy4moab) is going too. He's going to break in his new XJ on this trip unless he hits another deer before then. :doh: He told me his new plates say "deer slayer II" in some sort of abreviated form. :thumbup:

[Clint]

Me,
Todd
Morty
Ryan
Jumpmaster
Israel (ZJ)
Jared (XJblue)
Slider
Crazy4moab
Rook1

Dave??
12 volt?
TheBuss2006?
Tom (MTNtech)?
Spencer?
Lonestar?
Jeff and his new rig?
Von?

[Clint]

Looks like Mikey (crazy4moab) is going too. He's going to break in his new XJ on this trip unless he hits another deer before then. :doh: He told me his news plates say "deer slayer II" in some sort of abreviated form. :thumbup:

As long as he doesn't follow Nannete down to Moab, he should be OK! :D :D

[JEEPZZ]

Sweet, you can camp out in the sticks with Ryan and I...
I might just do that. I was thinking of splitting the cost of a hotel room with someone, but a night (or two) out in the sticks with a campfire sounds like a good time. No flares in the fire pit this time (umm cough, cough Cody). :D

Are guys gonna set up a base camp with tents for multiple nights or are you gonna pack up each morning?

>>>edit: Nevermind. I'll just be sleeping in the back of my Heep anyways so it really doesn't matter.

[Clint]

I might just do that. I was thinking of splitting the cost of a hotel room with someone, but a night (or two) out in the sticks with a campfire sounds like a good time. No flares in the fire pit this time (umm cough, cough Cody). :D

Are guys gonna set up a base camp with tents for multiple nights or are you gonna pack up each morning?

>>>edit: Nevermind. I'll just be sleeping in the back of my Heep anyways so it really doesn't matter.

Base camp.

[MTNTECH]

I'll be there, reserved spot in MRC but would like to here more about camping out. Will pulling XJ down in a 25ft Class C MH.

[XJumpmaster]

My brother and his wife for Co. Springs might be coming too. They'll have to ride with me or rent. Will know when we get closer.

[David B.]

Time to break the silence. I am planning on going down. Looking for some "sticks" to camp near. I used to camp in a slot canyon just past (West of) Moab Rim trailhead, might try there.

[Handlebars]

I am considering coming out just for the Saturday Behind the Rocks run. Any of you "camping in the sticks" people want to stay out at the end of Behind the Rocks, where the 24 hour bike race people set up? Somewhere around here...

http://www.fototime.com/A3ED4B403970355/orig.jpg


BTW, one of my buddies from NM did Behind the Rocks last fall on 30's and 3.07's, so it can be done. He had the smallest Jeep by far in our group.
http://www.fototime.com/481778C4FFFBC62/orig.jpg

We ran BTR the same morning NAXJA was scheduled to go. We left early to stay out of the way without realizing the run had been scrubbed. I only made it as far as Upchuck Hill before breaking a leaf spring. I wouldn't mind trying again but I can't take time off work for it so we would be showing up at camp around midnight.

[DrMoab]

Behind the rocks is a nice place to camp and I seriously thought about it but I want to be a little closer to town.

Two places I have thought about. One is out on the Kane Creek Rd. Right after you leave the stupid Colorado river area...right before you get to the Kane Creek crossing, where the trail to Kane Creek starts there is a nice camp spot on the right side of the road.

Another place is up north of town a little further...but Im not sure about exactly where yet.

[XJumpmaster]

My parents are now talking about bringin their RV down but do not want to stay in a RV park. I was kinda thinking of that same spot out on Kane Creek. They may rent a Jeep and do some of the easier stuff. That might take me out of some of the club activities, but we'll see when it gets closer.

[DrMoab]

Just a heads up. DaveW just informed me that all the places in Moab are now pretty much booked.

I guess for those of you slackers....there is always an open campfire spot with us. :D

[Handlebars]

Ryan- is "Kane Creek" about where you want to camp?


http://www.fototime.com/8B61A29111CE49E/orig.jpg


The Kane Creek campsite is closer to Main/Center Streets at 10.8 miles and 26 minutes of driving.

The Behind the Rocks campsite is farther at 14.1 miles, but a shorter drive at 17:33 minutes.

The Behind the Rocks campsite is also 3/10 of a miles closer to the nearest gas station. Waddya think? :)

[DrMoab]

The Behind the Rocks campsite is also 3/10 of a miles closer to the nearest gas station. Waddya think? :)
One thing I have to consider is my scarry jeep on the highway. Kane Creek is a place where I can drive a lot slower to get into town. I know that sounds kind of silly but if you ever had to drive my jeep at speed on the highway you would understand.

Honestly the campsites out at Behind the rocks is nicer...I could do either.

Anybody else thats going to camp with us have a suggestion or idea?

[Clint]

One thing I have to consider is my scarry jeep on the highway. Kane Creek is a place where I can drive a lot slower to get into town. I know that sounds kind of silly but if you ever had to drive my jeep at speed on the highway you would understand.

Honestly the campsites out at Behind the rocks is nicer...I could do either.

Anybody else thats going to camp with us have a suggestion or idea?


No idea, but this big campout sounds fun!:flame:

[JEEPZZ]

Anybody else thats going to camp with us have a suggestion or idea?
I'm easy, either is good with me. Are we eating in town or are we gonna live off the land? (pack our food in) :D

[Clint]

I'm easy, either is good with me. Are we eating in town or are we gonna live off the land? (pack our food in) :D


I think we wanted to just eat in town. Would be easier.

[DrMoab]

I think we wanted to just eat in town. Would be easier.
Good possibility that this will be kind of a guys trip. At least for me.

Nanette might not be able to make it.

[Clint]

Nanette might not be able to make it.


??? Is there a strip club in Moab??? :D :party:

[DrMoab]

Even if there was...would you want to go? I've seen the local Flavor down there.:gee:

[XJumpmaster]

YIPE YIPE YIPE!

Tamara will probably be coming now, her training was pushed back a month!

[Handlebars]

Guy + gal trip for us! We are bringing all of our food, I don't even think we are planning to go into Moab itself at this point. The car show should have all of the eateries packed anyways.

[Geepfreak]

Good possibility that this will be kind of a guys trip. At least for me.

Nanette might not be able to make it.

I'll be coming down Stag as well (unless I find a cute chick that want's to go):D

Cabin #18 MRCP

[Mrs Moab]

??? Is there a strip club in Moab??? :D :party:

My reasons for not going are much bigger and better than a strip club.

[slider]

i sure hope my wife doesn't end up being the only wife there. of course she does a good part of just being "one of the guys" i guess we'll manage

[Mrs Moab]

i sure hope my wife doesn't end up being the only wife there. of course she does a good part of just being "one of the guys" i guess we'll manage

Just tell her to bring her...what did she call it.....smut book, and she'll be content. No kids....what could be better?

[XJumpmaster]

Slider, Tamara will be there!

[slider]

cool. then my wife won't feel quit so out of place.

[Israel]

My wife says she's coming too!

[Clint]

Looks like a good group..

Me,
Todd
Morty
Ryan
Jumpmaster
Israel (ZJ)
Jared (XJblue)
Slider
Crazy4moab
Rook1
Jeremy
Tom (MTNtech)
Handlebars

Dave??
12 volt?
TheBuss2006?
Spencer?
Lonestar?
Jeff and his new rig?
Von?
Bryon (XJ4Moab) ??


Who all is planning on camping in the sticks?

[slider]

me and the wife, and the jeep and the truck.

[slider]

My wife says she's coming too!

and it looks like you'll be in a zj so i won't be alone there too. sound like a fun trip.

[12 Volt Man]

I am in. Just confirmed the reservations on a place to stay.
Staying here...... http://www.moab-utah.com/moabrim/campark.html

[Israel]

Looks like a good group..
Who all is planning on camping in the sticks?

We'll probably be siding with the enemy and camping in the BLM campgrounds along the river.

[Clint]

I am in. Just confirmed the reservations on a place to stay.
Staying here...... http://www.moab-utah.com/moabrim/campark.html

Thats a very nice campground. Good choice!

[XJumpmaster]

Just got reservations at MRC for 4 sites! Sue said it would be tight but should accomodate us!

[Clint]

Sounds like a good time at MRC this year!

[DaveW]

I'm planning on going.
Not sure if I'll get there Wednesday or Thursday night.
Looks like it might be roughing it by the river with the Doc and Clint.
Not sure who will be going with me yet.

[Clint]

Awesome, but I'm not sure we are staying by the river.. I'll be there late Wednesday.

[Handlebars]

Who all is planning on camping in the sticks?
We'll be staying at Behind the Rocks Friday and Saturday for sure, I just thought of another reason. After the trail on Saturday I am going across the highway to get a GPS track for Strike Ravine. NAXJA could really use a new trail for the Fall Fling, 'ya know. Anybody that wants to practice u-turns is welcome to join me!

[xjblue]

We'll be staying at Behind the Rocks Friday and Saturday for sure, I just thought of another reason. After the trail on Saturday I am going across the highway to get a GPS track for Strike Ravine. NAXJA could really use a new trail for the Fall Fling, 'ya know. Anybody that wants to practice u-turns is welcome to join me!

My backup plan will be to camp out that way with you, my friends are trying to get a place in town to stay but I havn't heard yet. Think there will be as many U-turns as last year? I'm always game for learning a trail.

[Handlebars]

My backup plan will be to camp out that way with you, my friends are trying to get a place in town to stay but I havn't heard yet. Think there will be as many U-turns as last year? I'm always game for learning a trail.
Yes, there will be u-turns for sure! Hopefully I can get the entire trail figured out and tracked so in the fall it will go smoothly.

It will be good to camp with you again, Jared. We can discuss Loose Screws 2007. :)

[MoabXJeeper]

If I make it, which depends on whether I have gears and a locker in the front, I am camping in the sticks. Yeah!!!!

[xjblue]

Yes, there will be u-turns for sure! Hopefully I can get the entire trail figured out and tracked so in the fall it will go smoothly.

It will be good to camp with you again, Jared. We can discuss Loose Screws 2007. :)


Alex somebody linked this site from RME, has a decent amount of trail descriptions and maps, should be helpful on Strike Ravine = gps exchange files, google earth map, description of how to start the trail etc.

http://www.traildamage.com/trails/index.php?id=130
http://www.traildamage.com/trails/strike_ravine/maps/map_big.gif

edit, that trail description almost sounds like the way we ended up driving it though.

[Handlebars]

Thanks for posting that Jared. I figured out how to get the track from Trail Damage into my GPS, and from there into TOPO.

This looks like a mess so I'll explain.

The Blue solid line is the freehand track I copied from the National Geographic Moab South paper map showing the Strike Ravine trail to the digital version of National Geographic TOPO. The blue/red diamonds are the GPS waypoints TOPO generated which I put into my GPS and attempted to follow last October.

The red dashed line is the track posted on TrailDamage.com.

The solid red line is the track from TrailDamage.com of the closed area- looking at the speed of the track I think they walked it with a GPS.

The black dashed line is our track from last October- but only from after the lunch stop.



http://www.fototime.com/D575E04F5A05D26/orig.jpg


It looks things went to heck after we encountered the Private Property sign, I think it is right at the beginning of the solid red line showing the closed part of the trail. I think the TrailDamage people missed that small canyon that Ranger Rick spotted everyone across, that was one of the more fun parts of the entire trail. I think we did pretty good, considering the mess of trails. We can do better next time though!

BTW, Jared do you have a GPS?

[RangerRick]

Darn, I'll miss you guys! I'll be out there April 11-14 showing friends from Perth, W.A. around. See ya at the fall fling. Alex, check out www.toyota.com.trailteams A4PWF H6HER . We got free T-shirts out of that pic at the SEMA show.

[RangerRick]

Alex, that's www.toyota.com./fjtrailteams A4PWF H6HER

[RangerRick]

Never mind the sight isn,t working for me.

[xjblue]

It looks things went to heck after we encountered the Private Property sign, I think it is right at the beginning of the solid red line showing the closed part of the trail. I think the TrailDamage people missed that small canyon that Ranger Rick spotted everyone across, that was one of the more fun parts of the entire trail. I think we did pretty good, considering the mess of trails. We can do better next time though!

BTW, Jared do you have a GPS?

No GPS yet but I'm over due on getting one.

thanks for showing all the tracks together. I agree with you it would be fun to incorporate driving that section the way we did with rick spotting and without missing the rest of it some how.

[Handlebars]

Jared- if you don't have a GPS by next month I'll bring my old GPS V for you.

Rick, I really think you need to make 2 trips to Moab in April, it would be good to see you again!

Check it out: I'm herding cats, I mean FJ Cruisers, on Hells Revenge:

http://www.fototime.com/68E4FE31FEBB690/orig.jpg

[Clint]

Were down to 1 month before the spring Moab run. We do not have any volunteers to leasd this years trails. Comon people, step up please! :D

[DrMoab]

Were down to 1 month before the spring Moab run. We do not have any volunteers to leasd this years trails. Comon people, step up please! :D
The sprin run will be just like Fall Fling this year....any trail without a leader will be cancelled....period.

[Brad M.]

Were down to 1 month before the spring Moab run. We do not have any volunteers to leasd this years trails. Comon people, step up please! :D

So not a single trail has a leader yet? Sheesh, here we go again... :laugh:

[Clint]

So not a single trail has a leader yet? Sheesh, here we go again... :laugh:

Pretty much. ...These are fun trails and it will be alot of fun. I'd lead them myself if I knew the trails...

[Israel]

Pretty much. ...These are fun trails and it will be alot of fun. I'd lead them myself if I knew the trails...

Ditto! Can we post up a trail schedule again now that it's closer?

[Handlebars]

Ditto! Can we post up a trail schedule again now that it's closer?

How about a new thread with all current information in one place?

[Brad M.]

Thursday:
Hard: Cliffhanger - only ran twice, never made past overlook due to lack of time, but as last resort would lead it
Easy: *TBD (Please let me know what you guys want to do here)

Friday:
Hard: Flat Iron Mesa - never ran, prefer to follow on this one
Easy: Gemini Bridges/Top of the World

Saturday:
Hard: Behind the Rocks - have run several times up to High Dive/Up Chuck, then we always bail and hit the dunes, would lead (or co-lead?) as last resort
Easy: Fins and Things - have run several times, would lead if needed but prefer to do BTR

Clint, hope this helps. If no one else steps up I could probably help out somewhere. As long as we stay off the Rim, in the rain, with a broken down Ranger Rick, I think my wife will be okay :D

[Lonestar]

Clint, have you and Ryan decided on where you are camping. I'd like to join you guys if thats cool. Havn't decided if I'm going to get down there Wed. night or Thrus. morning.

[Clint]

Clint, have you and Ryan decided on where you are camping. I'd like to join you guys if thats cool. Havn't decided if I'm going to get down there Wed. night or Thrus. morning.


Not yet. Last time I talked to him about it, we were going to camp with Handlebars. But Ill keep everyone informed once we know for sure.

[DrMoab]

Not yet. Last time I talked to him about it, we were going to camp with Handlebars. But Ill keep everyone informed once we know for sure.
Im pretty much planning on camping out in the behind the rocks area. Since lots of people seem to want to dry camp this year I think that area would give us the most room.

[Handlebars]

The spring run will be just like Fall Fling this year....any trail without a leader will be cancelled....period.
I'll lead Behind the Rocks if we make the meeting place our campsite on the Behind the Rocks Road at 8AM.

BTW, I was unaware of the cancellation policy. Last fall I lead a group of friends from NM on BTR the same morning NAXJA was scheduled to go. I would have been happy to take some NAXJA stragglers too, if I had known.

[DrMoab]

I'll lead Behind the Rocks if we make the meeting place our campsite on the Behind the Rocks Road at 8AM.

BTW, I was unaware of the cancellation policy. Last fall I lead a group of friends from NM on BTR the same morning NAXJA was scheduled to go. I would have been happy to take some NAXJA stragglers too, if I had known.
Deal :D

and last year that cancellation policy wasn't in effect.

I didn't want to be put in charge of doing Fall Fling trails because it is so hard to find leaders. I told the powers that be that if I was going to do them again this year that I wasn't going to stress myself out of finding leaders. If I can't find them I am not going to worry about it.

[Handlebars]

Cool. A big NAXJA banner for our campsite will help the townies find the meeting place...

[DrMoab]

Cool. A big NAXJA banner for our campsite will help the townies find the meeting place...
I will bring the one we have. As long as you don't mind a bud light endorsement. :D

[Clint]

Handlebars:
Thank you for stepping up. I appreciate that!

Still need leaders for Flat Iron and Cliff Hanger.

Also need to hear from the guys who want to run easy trails, or if we'll have anyone who wants to do that..

[Handlebars]

As long as you don't mind a bud light endorsement. :D
You're kidding, right?

One less excuse for people on the fence about leading a trail: I have GPS tracks for Flat Iron Mesa and Cliffhanger. I can send them as an attachment on an e-mail in .gdb (Garmin Mapspource) or .gpx (GPS eXchange) format.

Another thought, have the easy group run Tip Toe Behind the Rocks while the hard group does the main trail? Remember a few years ago when Thursday on the Fall Fling was an everybody runs Hells Revenge day? Maybe we could try something like that but with 2 groups on Behind the Rocks. We could do a trial run next month and see if it would be a traffic jam or what.

[DrMoab]

You're kidding, right?

One less excuse for people on the fence about leading a trail: I have GPS tracks for Flat Iron Mesa and Cliffhanger. I can send them as an attachment on an e-mail in .gdb (Garmin Mapspource) or .gpx (GPS eXchange) format.

Another thought, have the easy group run Tip Toe Behind the Rocks while the hard group does the main trail? Remember a few years ago when Thursday on the Fall Fling was an everybody runs Hells Revenge day? Maybe we could try something like that but with 2 groups on Behind the Rocks. We could do a trial run next month and see if it would be a traffic jam or what.
I wish I was kidding. We got a freebie banner from a friend of Cody's who works for bud or something.

Anyway...I like the idea of running everyone through BTR like that.

Good thinking dude.

[Handlebars]

Jared thought of it first!

I would actually be interested in the Tiptoe Behind the Rocks version with the hike to Pritchet arch I've been itching to do for years, so perhaps we could do the split group routine for the intermediates.


OK, so now we need somebody to lead the Tip Toe group... Jared? :)

[xjblue]

OK, so now we need somebody to lead the Tip Toe group... Jared? :)


See post #142 :rtm: Yes I'd be glad to. As for experience on that side of Moab I've only been down the "main road" once to prostitute butte and it's two arches then a little further beyond before turning around. It wasn't long ago I used to feel that way but now I have no issues leading a trail I've never done.

My first NAXJA run was the 2002 Fall Fling everybody on Hells Revenge run one partly cloudy October friday morning, we split into two groups, the easy group pulling aside letting the hard group pass just after the first fin as we were all mixed up getting to the trail. We (the easy group) followed behind the hard group in a never ending snake of 50 sandstone surfing XJ's, on down to Hells Gate to watch some of the action before going on ahead. It worked out well that way. Have you ever listened to Fifty 4.0 inline sixes fire up at once in a grocery store parking lot!

[Clint]

Thursday:
Hard: Cliffhanger
Easy: *TBD (Please let me know what you guys want to do here)

Friday:
Hard: Flat Iron Mesa
Easy: Fins and Things

Friday Night:

6PM BBQ, location TBD.

Saturday:
Hard: Behind the Rocks - Handlebars
Easy: Tip Toe Behind the rocks - XJblue


Still need leaders for the other 2 days!

[Handlebars]

Right awn Jared!

[David B.]

See post #142 :rtm: Yes I'd be glad to. As for experience on that side of Moab I've only been down the "main road" once to prostitute butte and it's two arches then a little further beyond before turning around. It wasn't long ago I used to feel that way but now I have no issues leading a trail I've never done.

My first NAXJA run was the 2002 Fall Fling everybody on Hells Revenge run one partly cloudy October friday morning, we split into two groups, the easy group pulling aside letting the hard group pass just after the first fin as we were all mixed up getting to the trail. We (the easy group) followed behind the hard group in a never ending snake of 50 sandstone surfing XJ's, on down to Hells Gate to watch some of the action before going on ahead. It worked out well that way. Have you ever listened to Fifty 4.0 inline sixes fire up at once in a grocery store parking lot!
I like the idea of tip toeing behind the rocks. Some areas along that route are still enough to drain the blood from the knuckles. I have led a group along fins and things that turned into a day full of u-turns to try to find the right path. Some of the trails have adequate marking, but others could really use a little more.

[MoabXJeeper]

Could we get the trails list moved to the first page of this thread? I had to look through 9 pages of yadda yadda yadda to find what trails are going to be run. Just a suggestion and thanks Clint!

[DrMoab]

Could we get the trails list moved to the first page of this thread? I had to look through 9 pages of yadda yadda yadda to find what trails are going to be run. Just a suggestion and thanks Clint!
I will get on it as soon as we figure exactly what we are going to be running. They keep changing a little.

[MoabXJeeper]

If nobody else wants to lead it I have a lot of experience with Fins n Things. Be aware that if I lead there WILL be a side trip up the easier route to Porcupine Rim.

[Clint]

If nobody else wants to lead it I have a lot of experience with Fins n Things. Be aware that if I lead there WILL be a side trip up the easier route to Porcupine Rim.

If you want to lead fins, your more than welcome. I'd almost expect you to take them to Porcupine ! :)

[MoabXJeeper]

If you want to lead fins, your more than welcome. I'd almost expect you to take them to Porcupine ! :)

I ran Flat Iron last fall and wouldn't mind doing it again but I don't see anybody stepping up to lead Fins so... On a side note, if anyone wants to run Gold Bar Rim and the last part of Spike to the Golden Crack on Sunday I would be willing. I could lead if you want.

[DrMoab]

I ran Flat Iron last fall and wouldn't mind doing it again but I don't see anybody stepping up to lead Fins so... On a side note, if anyone wants to run Gold Bar Rim and the last part of Spike to the Golden Crack on Sunday I would be willing. I could lead if you want.
Sunday won't be an official trail day but you might find more then enough people willing to go.

[MoabXJeeper]

Sunday won't be an official trail day but you might find more then enough people willing to go.

Yeah, I hope so because it doesnt really take all that long. I have run that and Metal Masher in one day a couple times.

[Clint]

OK plans have changed, we'll be running Poison Spyder on Friday.

Thursday:
Hard: Cliffhanger
Easy: *TBD (Please let me know what you guys want to do here)

Friday:
Hard: Poison Spyder Mesa Ryan -DrMoab
Easy: Fins and Things Von -MoabXJeeper

Friday Night:

6PM BBQ, location TBD.

Saturday:
Hard: Behind the Rocks - Handlebars
Easy: Tip Toe Behind the rocks - XJblue

[DrMoab]

The main post has been edited with the revised trail list.

[Israel]

OK plans have changed, we'll be running Poison Spyder on Friday.

Thursday:
Hard: Cliffhanger
Easy: *TBD (Please let me know what you guys want to do here)

Friday:
Hard: Poison Spyder Mesa Ryan -DrMoab
Easy: Fins and Things Von -MoabXJeeper

Friday Night:

6PM BBQ, location TBD.

Saturday:
Hard: Behind the Rocks - Handlebars
Easy: Tip Toe Behind the rocks - XJblue

I'm still voting for Hell's Revenge for the easy ride on Thursday, but since I can't lead it someone will have to step up if that's what we want to do.

[ROOK1]

I'm still voting for Hell's Revenge for the easy ride on Thursday, but since I can't lead it someone will have to step up if that's what we want to do.

I will second that. I can't exactly remember why I didn't run it in the fall, but I think had something to do with a swamped Jeep.

I will be running it Thursday or Saturday even if I have to do it with a bunch of FJ's.

[Israel]

I can't exactly remember why I didn't run it in the fall, but I think had something to do with a swamped Jeep.

Hey, now! It was more the swamp than the jeep that ruined that run! :D:D:D

[Clint]

I'm still voting for Hell's Revenge for the easy ride on Thursday, but since I can't lead it someone will have to step up if that's what we want to do.

We can do that if a leader can found.

[XJumpmaster]

I would lead it but won't be down till Thurs night.

[MoabXJeeper]

I would lead it but won't be down till Thurs night.

Same here. Oh, Josh has one other issue...no Jeep. :D

[Mrs Moab]

Same here. Oh, Josh has one other issue...no Jeep. :D

Is Josh coming?

[XJumpmaster]

This Josh is driving his Jeep now! Picked it up yesterday! WOOOOOOOOOHOOOOOOOOO!

[MTNTECH]

I'm still voting for Hell's Revenge for the easy ride on Thursday, but since I can't lead it someone will have to step up if that's what we want to do.

And I'll third it but like everyone else so far I can't lead it because I have never been on it. Also be taking it on with "trash lock rear and TruTrak front" if that sounds do-able for HR by taking most bypasses.

[MTNTECH]

This Josh is driving his Jeep now! Picked it up yesterday! WOOOOOOOOOHOOOOOOOOO!

So you will be there on Wednesday now????


What a way to waste a 100th post.

[Clint]

And I'll third it but like everyone else so far I can't lead it because I have never been on it. Also be taking it on with "trash lock rear and TruTrak front" if that sounds do-able for HR by taking most bypasses.

Hells can be run in a stocker. Especially if your a smart driver. You will not have any problems Tom.

Still looking for a leader to do hells Thursday. I'd even consider canceling Cliffhanger and just running Hells that day if that would entice somone to lead...